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Offline Dave

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #675 on: March 22, 2013, 05:47:32 PM »
Scott Sinclair thought he was doing the right thing moving on and he's hardly got a game.
I would bet a lot of money that Scott Sinclair still thinks that he did the right thing.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #676 on: March 22, 2013, 06:50:31 PM »
Well you're a big admirer of Stuart Taylor ;)

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #677 on: March 22, 2013, 07:44:03 PM »
Scott Sinclair thought he was doing the right thing moving on and he's hardly got a game.
I would bet a lot of money that Scott Sinclair still thinks that he did the right thing.

That's probably a lot more to do with him copping off with the big titted ex Corrie actress than he's playing time this season.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #678 on: March 22, 2013, 08:00:25 PM »
He's a friend-of-a-friend (he was born and raised in Bath) and he's just somebody who sees football as a job and nothing more (see Olof, Luke Moore, Assou-Ekotto). And takes the not-unreasonable view that if someone wants to give him an unfathomable amount of money to watch football matches then that's alright by him.

He was very happy on the seven grand per week that Chelsea were paying him to do nothing, and he's now being paid five times that amount to do very little at Man City.

Whether in supporters' eyes that makes him the worst kind of mercenary is pretty irrelevant - he's not doing it to get half a dozen England caps and become a hero at Swansea or (for example) Villa. He's doing it so that he has enough money to look after him and his family. Best of luck to him as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #679 on: March 22, 2013, 09:16:12 PM »
Has Andi been on the scoresheet tonight? Watching the Ireland game and the commentator just mentioned that Austria have gone 5-0 up against the Faroes.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #680 on: March 22, 2013, 09:18:13 PM »
6-0 and he hasn't scored any.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #681 on: March 22, 2013, 09:29:28 PM »
Tell him to get to fuck with his wage demands then.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #682 on: March 22, 2013, 10:28:23 PM »
Interesting conversation tonight. I have never posted anything ITK before and I'm not claiming to be one. However he has shown me in the past a letter he got from from krulak asking about his families plight. It don't mean much I know but Its more than I would have got. Anyway make of it what you  will'. He told me their are 2 offers on the Table for Andi. one if we stay up and one if we go down. Andi is happy to sign either. Obviously would prefer the former. Also the reception he got from the home fans in Vienna a few years ago bothered him a lot

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #683 on: March 22, 2013, 11:09:55 PM »
He sounds lile he's from Erdington. He is going to sign.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #684 on: March 22, 2013, 11:44:10 PM »
QB, I disagree.  I think the reason they take the option to go to a big team is because they think and believe they can break into the team and stay there.  Thats why they are where they are, belief.  I think if they honestly know they are just going to be a benchwarmer, not many of them would take it.  They want to play.  Thats why they gave up so much of their life to train week in week out

I'd like to believe you are right and daresay there are some players who fit that description but with the money that is on offer it has to turn heads. The gulf between the wages paid at the likes of City and United to the Villa's and Everton's of this world these days is a lot bigger than it was even ten years ago. Nothing should be taken for granted in a footballer's career and the chance to be financially secure for life is one very few would resist in any walk of life in my opinion. That's why there are so few one club men these days. Outside of the very wealthiest clubs who have players who amass three/four hundred games these days? We had Barry and when he left after eleven years he got called a greedy bastard lol.
Loyalty is a trait exclusive to fans. Players and staff have their own personal agendas and that's the way it is.

Yeah and one four year contract at 15K per week ( that's £3.12 million by the way) makes you financially secure for the rest of your life!!

So doubling, trebling or even quadrupling his salary wouldn't be of any interest? Poor old Ashley Cole nearly crashed his car when Arsenal offered him £10k less than he was expecting.

Moetvillan, do you think when Wayne Bridge went to Chelsea he honestly thought he was going to dislodge Ashley Cole? Sinclair, where is he going to play at Man City, even when Ballottelli has gone and Aguero is injured? Players move for money and lets be honest, if I got offered a big rise next week in the same kind of work, I would take it. Weimann may hold on and think he should as he will be getting regular football and has an affinity with the club. Benteke, Iam far from sure he will stay

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #685 on: March 22, 2013, 11:50:35 PM »
Moetvillan, do you think when Wayne Bridge went to Chelsea he honestly thought he was going to dislodge Ashley Cole? Sinclair, where is he going to play at Man City, even when Ballottelli has gone and Aguero is injured? Players move for money and lets be honest, if I got offered a big rise next week in the same kind of work, I would take it. Weimann may hold on and think he should as he will be getting regular football and has an affinity with the club. Benteke, Iam far from sure he will stay

Of course they move for money.

I always cringe a bit on here when I hear stuff like "Andi genuinely loves the club". What possible evidence are we basing this on? We don't know what drives him, we don't know what kind of person he is, we don't know what his priorities are.

One thing I do know is that the days of players really, really loving clubs ended about 20 years ago.

I remember someone saying on the day James Milner left, he was going around BMH in tears, yadayada. Yeah, I imagine he was sad. Maybe he still felt sad the next day. But he still went.

Players are human, if one club waves 2m over 4 years at them, and the next waves 8m, how much love do you think they're going to show when making that kind of decision?

If i were a player, and I got offered 2m over 4 years by Villa or 4m over the same period by someone else decent, then so long as the ambitions of the other club were higher than ours (not difficult) I'd take the big money every time, and I'm someone who has this club in his DNA.

End of the day, if you think players make decisions on where they'll play based on "loving the club", then I'm sorry, but you're way too naive.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #686 on: March 23, 2013, 12:19:16 AM »
Aye. 

Seem to recall a few converstions flying around here to the effect that Jimmy was 'different' and wouldn't leave for money   (despite him doing just that when he left Newcastle to come back to VP). 

It's the age we're in.  The best you can hope for is that players on excessive wages deliver a degree of professionalism.  In Jimmy's defence, he was a s commited in his last game with us as he was on his debut.   Compare and contrast with Yorke, who effectively went on strike at Goodison. Milner could have played within himself, conserved his energy and merely tried to avoid injury. Any kind of knock that he'd picked up in that game with West Ham could have put the kybosh on his big payday. 

I can't pretend to know Wiemann's true thoughts on the club, but in his case, coming through the ranks might make him more determined to make a go of things here.  He'll have waited a long time to try and make his mark, watched as players he might well have felt were inferior to him edged ahead in the starting XI.  Now is his time.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #687 on: March 23, 2013, 12:19:17 AM »
Not sure about loving the club, but being happy at the club and understanding, from the inside, exactly how the club see the next 3-4 years will have a bearing.  The reality is we have a young enough squad that this lot can quite easily play together for 5-6 years with just a few additions of quality to fill things out, If the club are capable of selling it to them that they could be the backbone of a side who can challenge at the top we stand a chance of keeping hold of them all for a few years.

I personally think Weimann will sign.  He seems to be really enjoying his football and is improving massively as the season goes on, I think he'll realise that he's better to stay for a year or 2 and get through the, generally telling, tough 2nd season with us.  If he comes out of next season having continued his progress he'll be a big name in the league, if he leaves this summer and struggles he could be in the wilderness for a few years.  He seems to genuinely enjoy playing football, which works out well for us right now.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #688 on: March 23, 2013, 12:20:15 AM »
Double post
« Last Edit: March 23, 2013, 12:23:45 AM by KevinGage »

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #689 on: March 23, 2013, 09:49:50 AM »
Moetvillan, do you think when Wayne Bridge went to Chelsea he honestly thought he was going to dislodge Ashley Cole?
I don't expect it would have crossed his mind as Bridge joined Chelsea three years before Ashley Cole did ;)

 


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