Was the General right to comment on O'Neill

[Mac]

Thats not fair, how can someone saying nothing be classed as an attack.

Third time..action speaks louder than words. Martin may have kept quiet and I don't blame him, leaving a club in limbo five days before the season kicks off and taking the 5 most important backroom staff with him is, in my book, an attack. A dirty one at that.

The timing stank.  And whilst I pleased he's gone, he could have done it earlier in the close season.  Surely nothing changed that dramatically at the club in the last 2 months?  It struck me as spite.

Not wanting to take away anything from his achievement of qualifying 4 the Europa Cup 3 times he has had the backing of the best chairman in the league.

[Chris Smith]

Also the fact remains that MON has said nothing bad about the club in his absence, so maybe they should take note of that.

As we all know, action speaks louder than words.

If only the General had remembered that.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Also the fact remains that MON has said nothing bad about the club in his absence, so maybe they should take note of that.

As we all know, action speaks louder than words.

If only the General had remembered that.

Yeah, he could have given him a good kickin'.

[pauliewalnuts]

Also the fact remains that MON has said nothing bad about the club in his absence, so maybe they should take note of that.

He hasn't said anything - yet - but let's not forget, in terms of damage he walked out on the club five days before the start of the season and took his entire backroom staff with him.

Nothing he could say could cause as much trouble and turmoil as that, and nothing he could say could put into context how little he gave a shit for the club than that.

To listen to you, you'd think he'd been sacked and was the wronged party.

[Concrete John]

As we all know, action speaks louder than words.

I agree.

And I think the other thing we can all agree on is that the reason he left, whether you take his side or the board's, was money.

Therefore, should we not wait to see what the club's actions are to decide whether he was justified or not?  If we don't spend the Milner money and sell a few more, then maybe he was right in trying to get Randy to change the stratergy and give him a fighting chance of bettering 6th.  But if we do spend decently between now and 31/8, or indeed in January should time beat us, he was probably wrong to resign.

Time, and actions, will tell.

[Chris Smith]

Also the fact remains that MON has said nothing bad about the club in his absence, so maybe they should take note of that.

He hasn't said anything - yet - but let's not forget, in terms of damage he walked out on the club five days before the start of the season and took his entire backroom staff with him.

Nothing he could say could cause as much trouble and turmoil as that, and nothing he could say could put into context how little he gave a shit for the club than that.

To listen to you, you'd think he'd been sacked and was the wronged party.

What about Ron Saunders walking out in January in the middle of a European Cup run. Does that show how little he gave a shit for the club?

MON dropped us in it and should get no sympathy for that but I do think one or two are getting a little carried away with it all.

I don't include you in this Paulie but there are people on this site professing anger at MON walking out who if they had been offered the prospect 24 hours earlier would have been delighted.

[Greg N'Ash]

I would have been delighted if he'd walked out 24 days earlier, but just before kick off was designed to cause as much damage as possible. The good news is any self-respecting club will have taken note of his actions and scrubbed him off any potential managerial short-list - he's finished as far as getting a top job.

[Chris Smith]

I would have been delighted if he'd walked out 24 days earlier, but just before kick off was designed to cause as much damage as possible. The good news is any self-respecting club will have taken note of his actions and scrubbed him off any potential managerial short-list - he's finished as far as getting a top job.

I think you're deluding yourself, greg. If you'd been offered the chance for him to go on the morning he walked you'd have taken it.

[Greg N'Ash]

Sorry but when we were discussing this in April/May on here i conceded he deserved a little longer. Once i got wind of all his double dealing with Liverpool behind our backs that viewpoint changed.

[Concrete John]

I still don't accept the timing to have been a deliberate act of spite on his part.  Was there a building and mounting frustration, which should have been identified and addressed earlier by both parties, that then boiled over last Monday?  Yes, that I can believe.  That after Blackburn at home last season he decided to go, but waited to make sure we sign no players and sabotage our pre-season before timing his resignation after Hughes went to Fulham?  Sorry, just sounds too far fetched and 'evil genius' like for me! 

[pauliewalnuts]

Also the fact remains that MON has said nothing bad about the club in his absence, so maybe they should take note of that.

He hasn't said anything - yet - but let's not forget, in terms of damage he walked out on the club five days before the start of the season and took his entire backroom staff with him.

Nothing he could say could cause as much trouble and turmoil as that, and nothing he could say could put into context how little he gave a shit for the club than that.

To listen to you, you'd think he'd been sacked and was the wronged party.

What about Ron Saunders walking out in January in the middle of a European Cup run. Does that show how little he gave a shit for the club?

Maybe it does, but what direct relevance does that have to MON doing it?

I don't include you in this Paulie but there are people on this site professing anger at MON walking out who if they had been offered the prospect 24 hours earlier would have been delighted.

You're probably right, I am sure there are those who dislike him enough to be like that, but I imagine there are far, far more who are genuinely annoyed at the timing.

I never thought he'd done enough to get sacked, that was always a ludicrous suggestion, but at the same time wanted him to put right what I saw as the deficiencies, and was prepared to have another season with him having a go.

I thought, prior to his leaving, that if i woke up one morning and heard he'd gone, I'd be pretty ambivalent about it, not really bothered too much either way.

Since last week, I've actually become glad he's gone, but I'm aware that this is partly because we played so well on Saturday (and, I know you and I disagree on the quality of football thing, but you must admit, I've at least been consistent with that complaint for ages now), partly because of the way he did it, and partly because of the stuff which has emerged / happened since.

I do think, however, that once the euphoria of Saturday has entirely worn off, we're going to realise how serious losing a manager so close to the start of a new season can be, and that's the point at which the true shittiness of when he bailed on us will be appreciated.

[Percy McCarthy]

The messiahs followers are still at it.

There are only 3 or 4 people on here who call MON the Messiah, and they are all maniacs who actually believe he is the anti-Christ.

[Mazrim]

The messiahs followers are still at it.

And you're still a moron. I hope there is no Pong O' Shat 3.

[sfx412]

Also the fact remains that MON has said nothing bad about the club in his absence, so maybe they should take note of that.

He hasn't said anything - yet - but let's not forget, in terms of damage he walked out on the club five days before the start of the season and took his entire backroom staff with him.

Nothing he could say could cause as much trouble and turmoil as that, and nothing he could say could put into context how little he gave a shit for the club than that.

To listen to you, you'd think he'd been sacked and was the wronged party.

What about Ron Saunders walking out in January in the middle of a European Cup run. Does that show how little he gave a shit for the club?

MON dropped us in it and should get no sympathy for that but I do think one or two are getting a little carried away with it all.

Ron Saunders position was untenable, and he walked, leaving behind his number 2 who took his team on to win the European Cup.
Comparing those two to that runaway shit you seem to want to defend is pathetic even for you.

[Concrete John]

Ron Saunders position was untenable, and he walked, leaving behind his number 2 who took his team on to win the European Cup.
Comparing those two to that runaway shit you seem to want to defend is pathetic even for you.

That's all VERY subjective.  Who's to say that MON did not genuinely feel his position was also untenable?  And he left behind a very competent coach in Kevin MacDonald.

If you start a thread like this it's because you want other people's views, so you might want to try treating those views with a little more respect.