Was the General right to comment on O'Neill

[KevinGage]

Well that Sunday Supplement thing yesterday was full of media types saying that MON had been told he could not have any of the Milner transfer fee. Which is likely to be bollocks I would suggest.

To be honest, I don't think what The General said initially was anything other than him being rather pissed off that his best buddy in the world was getting shit on unfairly in the press.

It was the post of a man who was annoyed rather than some prepared club snipe.

That's how I understood it too.

[Percy McCarthy]

Yes, I do think the General was wrong to say what he did for the simple reason that when the new regime came in one of the club's core values was to be integrity.   Over the past four years Randy and the Board have rebuilt the club's image and made Aston Villa a club to be respected for its outlook and the way it approaches the increasingly immoral business of football.

Washing one's dirty laundry in public (no matter how justified) is an undignified and classless way to behave.  It's not the way Villa should be doing things.  I believe the General compromised his very high standards by saying what he said.  Likewise, the quotes attributed to Randy re. Man City yesterday, and Kevin MacDonald's football style were also disappointing to read.  Leave that kind of playground stuff to Sullivan, Gold and the like.

Obviously I'll put everything I've said into the context of MON walking out and leaving the club deep in the brown stuff.  Clearly such behaviour and rejection would leave any person with any feelings nothing short of furious.  The General's reaction was human and understandable BUT should have been kept within the walls of the boardroom at Villa Park.

You people dont half talk some tosh. All Mr Krulak did was give the clubs side of the story to the fans which needed to be done.

The messiahs followers are feeling bitter and sore and are searching for anything they can for comfort. Pathetic really but it's what we've come to expect. I fully expect a few people to be ex Villa fans when MON rocks up at another club.

Now that's pathetic.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Yes, I do think the General was wrong to say what he did for the simple reason that when the new regime came in one of the club's core values was to be integrity.   Over the past four years Randy and the Board have rebuilt the club's image and made Aston Villa a club to be respected for its outlook and the way it approaches the increasingly immoral business of football.

Washing one's dirty laundry in public (no matter how justified) is an undignified and classless way to behave.  It's not the way Villa should be doing things.  I believe the General compromised his very high standards by saying what he said.  Likewise, the quotes attributed to Randy re. Man City yesterday, and Kevin MacDonald's football style were also disappointing to read.  Leave that kind of playground stuff to Sullivan, Gold and the like.

Obviously I'll put everything I've said into the context of MON walking out and leaving the club deep in the brown stuff.  Clearly such behaviour and rejection would leave any person with any feelings nothing short of furious.  The General's reaction was human and understandable BUT should have been kept within the walls of the boardroom at Villa Park.

You people dont half talk some tosh. All Mr Krulak did was give the clubs side of the story to the fans which needed to be done.

The messiahs followers are feeling bitter and sore and are searching for anything they can for comfort. Pathetic really but it's what we've come to expect. I fully expect a few people to be ex Villa fans when MON rocks up at another club.

Now that's pathetic.

Whadd'ya mean?
My Chinese joke was sadder than that.

[seanthevillan]

I was listening to 6-0-6 on Saturday evening when they mentioned Bruce Buck's program notes.Apparently he referred to Liverpool as a 'smallish club north of the M25), no doubt joyfully received by the braying Chelsea fans but essentially disrespectful. At the time I said to my Dad that a chairman shouldn't be saying that kind of thing and I was glad that Randy would never do something like that.

Now I know that the manner of Lerner's comments are completely different, and the General's, but even taking a couple of words out of their statements would make them less snide. Its not been Randy's style so far. I accept that they have every right to set the record straight, so to speak, but I wish they'd chosen their words a bit more carefully.

[Villa'Zawg]

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You people dont half talk some tosh. All Mr Krulak did was give the clubs side of the story to the fans which needed to be done.

The messiahs followers are feeling bitter and sore and are searching for anything they can for comfort. Pathetic really but it's what we've come to expect. I fully expect a few people to be ex Villa fans when MON rocks up at another club.

Messiahs followers? Ex-Villa fans? That kind of stuff is de rigueur toward other Villa supporters on here nowadays, even for a chap with 6 posts, but Mr Krulak? Don't you know that's no way to address General Charles C. Krulak, much-decorated war hero and friend of US Presidents. Shame on you.

[dave.woodhall]

On Monday night Randy was taking a lot of stick on here and I understand that elsewhere it was even worse. Throughout the week some were saying that the atmosphere on Saturday would be poisoous, with fans fighting amongst themselves.

On Saturday the crowd was solidly behind the board, Kevin MacDonald and the club even before kick-off. Much of the reason for this was the way in which the club had handled the week's events. Max Clifford couldn't have done it better. We had something like 35,000 Villa supporters solidly behind the team for 90 minutes, and if the reason why annoyed Oliver Holt, that's just a bonus.   

[Villa'Zawg]

I think the majority of Villa supporters are behind the manager and team at every game. The minority who found that difficult to do because of their antipathy towards the previous manager joined in is all.

[Percy McCarthy]

I think the majority of Villa supporters are behind the manager and team at every game. The minority who found that difficult to do because of their antipathy towards the previous manager joined in is all.

Yes, welcome back lads. May you be solidly behind the club forever, or until you find another excuse at least.

[ronshirt]

To reiterate, I'm pissed off with MON for walking in the way and at the time he did but I'm not going to be a hypocrite or party to a a rewriting of history and say that I thought he was doing a bad job before that.

This is how I feel too.

I thought PR was the General's job. So of course he was right to comment on MON. As to whether or not what he said was true only time will tell.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Where I sat, there where a hell of a lot of comments along the line of
'Thank fuck he's gone'
This was before our excellent display.

Why has Percy's poll thread been locked, I never had a chance to vote.
Mind you, he didn't put a 'MON is a piece of shit' option on there, so I probably would have abstained.

[Percy McCarthy]

Where I sat, there where a hell of a lot of comments along the line of
'Thank fuck he's gone'
This was before our excellent display.

Why has Percy's poll thread been locked, I never had a chance to vote.
Mind you, he didn't put a 'MON is a piece of shit' option on there, so I probably would have abstained.

Not sure who you'll be supporting then?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Where I sat, there where a hell of a lot of comments along the line of
'Thank fuck he's gone'
This was before our excellent display.

Why has Percy's poll thread been locked, I never had a chance to vote.
Mind you, he didn't put a 'MON is a piece of shit' option on there, so I probably would have abstained.

Not sure who you'll be supporting then?

Villa, naturally.
I'm just cocking a snoot at the Villa hating madman 2.

[Percy McCarthy]

Where I sat, there where a hell of a lot of comments along the line of
'Thank fuck he's gone'
This was before our excellent display.

Why has Percy's poll thread been locked, I never had a chance to vote.
Mind you, he didn't put a 'MON is a piece of shit' option on there, so I probably would have abstained.

Not sure who you'll be supporting then?

Villa, naturally.
I'm just cocking a snoot at the Villa hating madman 2.

Considering that for most of MON's tenure you thought fifth was the best Villa could possibly achieve, I'd have thought you were quite impressed with three seasons at sixth.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Where I sat, there where a hell of a lot of comments along the line of
'Thank fuck he's gone'
This was before our excellent display.

Why has Percy's poll thread been locked, I never had a chance to vote.
Mind you, he didn't put a 'MON is a piece of shit' option on there, so I probably would have abstained.

Not sure who you'll be supporting then?

Villa, naturally.
I'm just cocking a snoot at the Villa hating madman 2.

Considering that for most of MON's tenure you thought fifth was the best Villa could possibly achieve, I'd have thought you were quite impressed with three seasons at sixth.

Pay attention, it was a cup I was after.
I can't have fondness for a man who dropped us in the shit 4 days before the start of the season, taking all his backroom staff with him, it was clearly a big 2 fingers up to the club and supporters.

Anyway, don't have a go at me, i'm not stopping you grieving.

[Percy McCarthy]

I don't have 'fondness' either. I don't know him, and all I care about are the results of Aston Villa. I won't grieve unless results get worse, and then it will be for The Villa, not some multi-millionaire ex-manager.