Sunday Supplement Today

[griffo104s]

The programme showed a couple of things.
 One is O'Neill's standing in the game. the comment regarding we are now the worst job on football as someone has to follow O'Neill didn't worry Strachan too much up in Celtic - arguably a much higher pressure job than the Villa. The comment regading O'Neill always leaves clubs in a better position - again he left Celtic with a very old squad cost a huge amount in wages, something which had to be rebuilt again by Strachan a man hardly held in the sem esteem as O'Neill.

Holt and Heyward's comments stunk of people who are mates with O'Neill and probably rarely actually travelled up to villa park to watch a game of football over the lat couple of years.

O'Neill did a great job of getting the club back to competeing for a European place each year, but am I the only one who looked at what he wanted to do with the Milner money and think not again ?

We have some of the best young talent this team has produced since the days of Cowans and Shaw and yet it's so far from the first team under him. I have no idea if Albrighton or Clark will actually make it at the Villa but they deserve a chance to prove what they can do, something they weren't going to get under O'Neill.

At the end of the day O'nEill would not have acjeived any of this without Lerner bankrolling him. The other muppet on the show stated that Lerner let him spend the money. Og course he did, he had trust in him and took a back seat letting the footballing guru make all the b ig decisions - a perfedt chairman. However, when you then see what he's done after the last couple of years and looked at a subs bench that prbably played for FIFA09 on the PS3 than actually they played on grass then you can understand where, as a businessman, Lerner would actually ask for some cuts to be made.

this was a great example of lazy journalism with a bunch of guys with no real interest in the club but big mates with the manager. Very poor indeed and a great example of why I don't buy newspapers any more.

[BannedUserIAT]

At the end of the day O'nEill would not have acjeived any of this without Lerner bankrolling him.

Acheived what exactly? The sum total of fuck all is what.
Otherwise, a good post.

If these comments have been made as MON's mouthpiece, then he's sunk way WAY below DOL in my opinion.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Oliver Holt is an attention seeking  twat. In the past he has antagonised Reading and Blackburn fans in particular, in fact he claims to have received death threats from Reading fans.
He is a typical know it all but ultimately ignorant mancunian.
His mother happens to be the actress Eileen Derbyshire who plays the character Emily Bishop in Coronation Street. If she is anything like her character then shes a lovely lady, all the more surprising that she didnt bring her son up to have good manners and show a little bit more respect.

[griffo104s]

At the end of the day O'nEill would not have acjeived any of this without Lerner bankrolling him.

Acheived what exactly? The sum total of fuck all is what.
Otherwise, a good post.

If these comments have been made as MON's mouthpiece, then he's sunk way WAY below DOL in my opinion.

when I said achievements, I meant taking us from where we were when DOL left to competing in the top 6. If you listened to these guys yesterday it was all down to MoN but without the support of his chairman and one of the biggest spends in the Premiership over the last 4 years we wouldn't be in the position to compete and MoN probably wouldn't have his reputation that he has in the press.

Lerner has run the club how I think a club should be run. almost quite old fashioned in a way in this modern footballing world. He has improved a lot off the park and and did a great job taking a charity as a sponsor. According to the three muppets yesterday he should have been grateful that MoN graced us with his presence.

[dave.woodhall]

According to the three muppets yesterday he should have been grateful that MoN graced us with his presence.

Which is the whole crux of the matter.

[Pete3206]

The 'Colonel Tom' comment was particularly ignorant and disgusting.

Journo's are always pulling people apart because of quote's they've made, often in haste. Mr Holt should at least apologise for that one.

[Stu]

According to the three muppets yesterday he should have been grateful that MoN graced us with his presence.

Which is the whole crux of the matter.

I started a thread on this matter a couple of years ago or more. Whenever I read an article about the Villa, we would always be referred to as 'Martin O'Neill's Aston Villa', as if we were part of a franchise or something. It really pissed me off back then and shows that all the good will we received from the media was because of who was in charge. Ah, fuck 'em anyway the ignorant twats.

[Stu]

The 'Colonel Tom' comment was particularly ignorant and disgusting.

Journo's are always pulling people apart because of quote's they've made, often in haste. Mr Holt should at least apologise for that one.

It wouldn't surprise me if he gets told to do one out of the pressbox next time he rocks up to VP. His next piece in the Mirror would be a great laugh.

[cheltenhamlion]

I had the misfortune of seeing this as well. They won't stop with these attacks you know. I am not normally someone who holds much of a view that the press are anti Villa but we will continue to get a whipping from the nationals about the former manager for some time yet.

[Concrete John]

Brian Read's column in the Mirror this Saturday was having a pop at him, but then he's always seemed to be on MON's back for some reason.

[Ger Regan]

Brian Read's column in the Mirror this Saturday was having a pop at him, but then he's always seemed to be on MON's back for some reason.

Because he saw through the myth that has / had built up around him? That or he was probably threatened with legal action by him at some point.

[Concrete John]

Brian Read's column in the Mirror this Saturday was having a pop at him, but then he's always seemed to be on MON's back for some reason.

Because he saw through the myth that has / had built up around him? That or he was probably threatened with legal action by him at some point.

Dunno really, but he's a Liverpool fan and never seems to say anything nice about anyone unless it's them.

[Dave]

On the flipside from The Guardian's "Football Weekly" podcast, Sean Ingle says "having looked at a few Villa message boards it seems that while we London media types all take the view that O'Neill is some sort of flawed genius it seems that there's a consensus among the fans that he was starting to hold them back and that now the shackles are being removed".

To redress the balance for the three dozen people who listen to it. Every little helps.

[dave.woodhall]

The 'Colonel Tom' comment was particularly ignorant and disgusting.

Journo's are always pulling people apart because of quote's they've made, often in haste. Mr Holt should at least apologise for that one.

It wouldn't surprise me if he gets told to do one out of the pressbox next time he rocks up to VP. His next piece in the Mirror would be a great laugh.

He's too important to have to actually attend matches.

[Somniloquism]

The 'Colonel Tom' comment was particularly ignorant and disgusting.

Journo's are always pulling people apart because of quote's they've made, often in haste. Mr Holt should at least apologise for that one.

It wouldn't surprise me if he gets told to do one out of the pressbox next time he rocks up to VP. His next piece in the Mirror would be a great laugh.

He's too important to have to actually attend matches.

Especially at small provincial clubs.