David Gold's car attacked outside the King Edward.

[Tom_Mc9?]

What a plonker.

[hilts_coolerking]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.The fact remains that he is no less of a supporter than you,me,the disabled bloke up the road or the muslim from round the corner.

Well, except for the fact that he is less of a supporter than you, me, the disabled bloke up the road and the Muslim from round the corner because he thinks it's acceptable to chuck bottles at the cars of people he doesn't like.  Or are you saying he should have the right to do that?

[Dave Javu]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.

I agree. They should be arrested and (preferably) be locked up as soon as possible.

[nechells]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.The fact remains that he is no less of a supporter than you,me,the disabled bloke up the road or the muslim from round the corner.

Well, except for the fact that he is less of a supporter than you, me, the disabled bloke up the road and the Muslim from round the corner because he thinks it's acceptable to chuck bottles at the cars of people he doesn't like.  Or are you saying he should have the right to do that?

He was away from the ground-How he behaves is up to him.He is still just as much a supporter as anyone else.In fact I'll go further-compared to a lot on here,he is more of a supporter because he actualy goes down & watchches the team.

[pauliewalnuts]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.The fact remains that he is no less of a supporter than you,me,the disabled bloke up the road or the muslim from round the corner.

Well, except for the fact that he is less of a supporter than you, me, the disabled bloke up the road and the Muslim from round the corner because he thinks it's acceptable to chuck bottles at the cars of people he doesn't like.  Or are you saying he should have the right to do that?

He was away from the ground-How he behaves is up to him.He is still just as much a supporter as anyone else.In fact I'll go further-compared to a lot on here,he is more of a supporter because he actualy goes down & watchches the team.

If only he could pair that attendance at the ground and support for the team with a bit of "not throwing bottles at cars", I can't help thinking that maybe then he'd be a good a supporter as the many thousands who were there yesterday and managed not to try to assault anybody.

[nechells]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.The fact remains that he is no less of a supporter than you,me,the disabled bloke up the road or the muslim from round the corner.

Well, except for the fact that he is less of a supporter than you, me, the disabled bloke up the road and the Muslim from round the corner because he thinks it's acceptable to chuck bottles at the cars of people he doesn't like.  Or are you saying he should have the right to do that?

He was away from the ground-How he behaves is up to him.He is still just as much a supporter as anyone else.In fact I'll go further-compared to a lot on here,he is more of a supporter because he actualy goes down & watchches the team.

If only he could pair that attendance at the ground and support for the team with a bit of "not throwing bottles at cars", I can't help thinking that maybe then he'd be a good a supporter as the many thousands who were there yesterday and managed not to try to assault anybody.

Do you not accept,or understand that out of the many thousands who were there yesterday that a few will break the law?

If you were to hold a pop concert in which many thousands attended,do you think it would be drug free?

You go on about the tabloid press slating Villa yet you lot on here seem to thrive on the slightest fracture of the law that can be attributed to Villa fans

[pauliewalnuts]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.The fact remains that he is no less of a supporter than you,me,the disabled bloke up the road or the muslim from round the corner.

Well, except for the fact that he is less of a supporter than you, me, the disabled bloke up the road and the Muslim from round the corner because he thinks it's acceptable to chuck bottles at the cars of people he doesn't like.  Or are you saying he should have the right to do that?

He was away from the ground-How he behaves is up to him.He is still just as much a supporter as anyone else.In fact I'll go further-compared to a lot on here,he is more of a supporter because he actualy goes down & watchches the team.

If only he could pair that attendance at the ground and support for the team with a bit of "not throwing bottles at cars", I can't help thinking that maybe then he'd be a good a supporter as the many thousands who were there yesterday and managed not to try to assault anybody.

Do you not accept,or understand that out of the many thousands who were there yesterday that a few will break the law?

If you were to hold a pop concert in which many thousands attended,do you think it would be drug free?

You go on about the tabloid press slating Villa yet you lot on here seem to thrive on the slightest fracture of the law that can be attributed to Villa fans

Yes, I do understand it, no i wouldn't expect it to be drug free, and no, I am not thriving on anything, I'm just suggesting that it is highly, highly twattish to throw a bottle at a car.

I fully understand it happens. Lots of thing happen which aren't right or acceptable, though, and this is one of them.

[willywombat]

Nah, chucking a bottle is twattish in the extreme. Now tomatoes, on the other hand would be perfectly acceptable. Providing they're not still in the tin of course

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Like you,I also remember the 70's & 80's when football was predominately a working class sport.That was the culture I grew up in & whilst I agree that football is better now,I can still relate to certain feelings & emotions that are frowned upon by many.

Just caught up on this thread from last night, if Nechells isnt simply being controversial to get a rise out of people then I would be genuinly concerned with an attitude that condones violence.
Perhaps he feels the majority of us are coming across with some self righteous attitude and views this as those who are part of what we call `the gentrification of football`.
I reckon a discussion with Nechells about the social exclusion from football of the working class fan in the last 20 years would probably find us agreeing on a lot.
Tribalsim and aggression have always been bound up with supporting a football team. I actualy believe there is nothing wrong with aggression at football, as long as it doesnt spill over into violence. I believe tribalism is acceptable at football if it doent spill over into ethnic or racial hatred.

I may be making an assumption here, but I reckon Nechells is pissed off because many of the working class have been priced out and excluded from football.
If that is the case then I am 100% with him on that point, one of my biggest gripes about the game now is how the make up of the people who go has been forcibly changed. I am lucky enough to be able to afford to go, I would hate to think how I would feel if I had been priced out.
However, I think he is making the same mistake as much of the stuck up media does and the Thatcher government did. There doent have to be any correlation between working class people going to football and any levels of violence. For all we know the bottle throwers could be privately educated middle class professionals living just round the corner from Doug in the poshest part of Sutton.

[Percy McCarthy]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.The fact remains that he is no less of a supporter than you,me,the disabled bloke up the road or the muslim from round the corner.

Well, except for the fact that he is less of a supporter than you, me, the disabled bloke up the road and the Muslim from round the corner because he thinks it's acceptable to chuck bottles at the cars of people he doesn't like.  Or are you saying he should have the right to do that?

He was away from the ground-How he behaves is up to him.He is still just as much a supporter as anyone else.In fact I'll go further-compared to a lot on here,he is more of a supporter because he actualy goes down & watchches the team.

If only he could pair that attendance at the ground and support for the team with a bit of "not throwing bottles at cars", I can't help thinking that maybe then he'd be a good a supporter as the many thousands who were there yesterday and managed not to try to assault anybody.

Do you not accept,or understand that out of the many thousands who were there yesterday that a few will break the law?

If you were to hold a pop concert in which many thousands attended,do you think it would be drug free?

You go on about the tabloid press slating Villa yet you lot on here seem to thrive on the slightest fracture of the law that can be attributed to Villa fans

Yes, I do understand it, no i wouldn't expect it to be drug free, and no, I am not thriving on anything, I'm just suggesting that it is highly, highly twattish to throw a bottle at a car.

I fully understand it happens. Lots of thing happen which aren't right or acceptable, though, and this is one of them.

I thought we'd got past criticising the way people choose to support the club.

[Drummond]

Percy, I'm not sure you can avoid criticising someone who is claimed to be supporting the club by throwing bottles at people. It's certainly not the sort of supporter that the vast majority of people would want to be associated with the club, as it gives the club, and therefore the supporters, a bad name. I'd also say that it isn't supporting, rather hindering the club.

[BannedUserIAT]

I honestly can't believe that anyone thinks that Gold deserves more than a few choice words on an internet message board and 'the wankers' at a game. To try to justify a bottle through a window and the injury that may have caused is mental.

And being a bottle-throwing twat has got nothing to do with being a Villa fan.

[eastie]

Throwing a bottle at a car window is in no way supporting our club- catch them and ban them from villa park - we don't need idiots like that ruining our clubs name and putting people in fear .

[pauliewalnuts]

However-In this age of equality,"bottle chucking imberciles" should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.The fact remains that he is no less of a supporter than you,me,the disabled bloke up the road or the muslim from round the corner.

Well, except for the fact that he is less of a supporter than you, me, the disabled bloke up the road and the Muslim from round the corner because he thinks it's acceptable to chuck bottles at the cars of people he doesn't like.  Or are you saying he should have the right to do that?

He was away from the ground-How he behaves is up to him.He is still just as much a supporter as anyone else.In fact I'll go further-compared to a lot on here,he is more of a supporter because he actualy goes down & watchches the team.

If only he could pair that attendance at the ground and support for the team with a bit of "not throwing bottles at cars", I can't help thinking that maybe then he'd be a good a supporter as the many thousands who were there yesterday and managed not to try to assault anybody.

Do you not accept,or understand that out of the many thousands who were there yesterday that a few will break the law?

If you were to hold a pop concert in which many thousands attended,do you think it would be drug free?

You go on about the tabloid press slating Villa yet you lot on here seem to thrive on the slightest fracture of the law that can be attributed to Villa fans

Yes, I do understand it, no i wouldn't expect it to be drug free, and no, I am not thriving on anything, I'm just suggesting that it is highly, highly twattish to throw a bottle at a car.

I fully understand it happens. Lots of thing happen which aren't right or acceptable, though, and this is one of them.

I thought we'd got past criticising the way people choose to support the club.

Go on, then, tell me how throwing a bottle at David Gold's car is "supporting the club"?

[nechells]

I honestly can't believe that anyone thinks that Gold deserves more than a few choice words on an internet message board and 'the wankers' at a game. To try to justify a bottle through a window and the injury that may have caused is mental.

And being a bottle-throwing twat has got nothing to do with being a Villa fan.

I can't recall reading one single post where anyone tries to justify it.