Let's not get carried away here. He didn't really coach them this week. This is more of a case of the clouds lifting than what KM was able to do. He's been a brilliant reserve team coach bringing the kids through. That's his strength. I want a proven manager. We're not Wigan or Stoke where we can take those chances.
Quote from: toronto villa on August 14, 2010, 05:31:18 PMLet's not get carried away here. He didn't really coach them this week. This is more of a case of the clouds lifting than what KM was able to do. He's been a brilliant reserve team coach bringing the kids through. That's his strength. I want a proven manager. We're not Wigan or Stoke where we can take those chances.Agree 85%. He's been coaching them since they returned from their summer break.
Quote from: Mark Kelly on August 14, 2010, 05:54:11 PMQuote from: toronto villa on August 14, 2010, 05:31:18 PMLet's not get carried away here. He didn't really coach them this week. This is more of a case of the clouds lifting than what KM was able to do. He's been a brilliant reserve team coach bringing the kids through. That's his strength. I want a proven manager. We're not Wigan or Stoke where we can take those chances.Agree 85%. He's been coaching them since they returned from their summer break.Not as manager, which ultimately is a very different animal when the buck stops with you. It's a very different level of pressure, and Villa is a big club with demanding expectations. He's never managed before at any level, so to throw him in at such a big club could drown him. I'd sooner he kept doing what he's doing becaue he's superb at that.
Quote from: toronto villa on August 14, 2010, 05:57:02 PMQuote from: Mark Kelly on August 14, 2010, 05:54:11 PMQuote from: toronto villa on August 14, 2010, 05:31:18 PMLet's not get carried away here. He didn't really coach them this week. This is more of a case of the clouds lifting than what KM was able to do. He's been a brilliant reserve team coach bringing the kids through. That's his strength. I want a proven manager. We're not Wigan or Stoke where we can take those chances.Agree 85%. He's been coaching them since they returned from their summer break.Not as manager, which ultimately is a very different animal when the buck stops with you. It's a very different level of pressure, and Villa is a big club with demanding expectations. He's never managed before at any level, so to throw him in at such a big club could drown him. I'd sooner he kept doing what he's doing becaue he's superb at that.What are you going on about? I agreed with you, I just added that he's been working with the players this summer, so obviously it's not like he hasn't seen them/coached them. I'd like to see him as number 2 to whoever we bring in and after today, I think it will be difficult for him to step back down to the Reserves again.
The folly of this idea can be demonstrated by the fact that had we lost 3-0 then no-one would be championing his appointment.In other words, it's an instant reaction to one win. And that's not a serious basis for deciding who should be the manager of a Premier League football club which has Champions League aspirations.
Quote from: Mark Kelly on August 14, 2010, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: toronto villa on August 14, 2010, 05:57:02 PMQuote from: Mark Kelly on August 14, 2010, 05:54:11 PMQuote from: toronto villa on August 14, 2010, 05:31:18 PMLet's not get carried away here. He didn't really coach them this week. This is more of a case of the clouds lifting than what KM was able to do. He's been a brilliant reserve team coach bringing the kids through. That's his strength. I want a proven manager. We're not Wigan or Stoke where we can take those chances.Agree 85%. He's been coaching them since they returned from their summer break.Not as manager, which ultimately is a very different animal when the buck stops with you. It's a very different level of pressure, and Villa is a big club with demanding expectations. He's never managed before at any level, so to throw him in at such a big club could drown him. I'd sooner he kept doing what he's doing becaue he's superb at that.What are you going on about? I agreed with you, I just added that he's been working with the players this summer, so obviously it's not like he hasn't seen them/coached them. I'd like to see him as number 2 to whoever we bring in and after today, I think it will be difficult for him to step back down to the Reserves again.I'm going on about the 15% that disagreed with me on, which is neither here nor there. Let's not make this into a drama. We're both saying the same thing. I'm just saying coaching and managing is different, especially when he's mainly been coaching the kids, and not the first team.