The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[peter w]

I don't think QPR are down yet as they have some big games coming up against teams around them. Although we have our noses just above the drop zone I still think its us that will go. Win on Sunday, however, coupled together with defeats for Stoke, Sunderland, Southampton, Wigan, QPR, and Reading and I may change that opinion. Oh, and we need to win something like 21-0.

[Concrete John]

The novelty of being a competent PL club has worn off for a lot of the Stoke fans and after a cup final and Europe they are frustrated at not kicking on from there. For that reason they are starting to turn against the style of play too.. On the other hand Pulis and the owner seem to have a strong relationship.

I think Charlton were similar in that Curbishley would always keep them up, but never push them on.  It's when that became not enough and we left, things started to go wrong for them.  Pulis will keep them up, but if they sack him they'll be on borrowed time in the PL. 

[not3bad]

I don't think QPR are down yet as they have some big games coming up against teams around them. Although we have our noses just above the drop zone I still think its us that will go. Win on Sunday, however, coupled together with defeats for Stoke, Sunderland, Southampton, Wigan, QPR, and Reading and I may change that opinion. Oh, and we need to win something like 21-0.

That's right.  If we only win 20-0 we can start planning for our trips to Barnsley.

[peter w]

Damned straight.

[N'ZMAV]

QPR aren't dead yet - unfortunately.

[eastie]

QPR aren't dead yet - unfortunately.

Far from it - sad that by playing a day late we may find ourselves back in the bottom 3 but we can get the results needed to survive.

[PaulWinch again]

QPR aren't dead yet - unfortunately.

Far from it - sad that by playing a day late we may find ourselves back in the bottom 3 but we can get the results needed to survive.

Conversely by late if results go our way, then a lot of pressure is relieved from the Liverpool game. It's swings and roundabouts, but it's very possible that Sunderland, Southampton, Reading and Wigan all lose.

[Steve R]

I'm beginning to think I'd rather Sunderland stay up, provided :

1) Stoke go down instead
2) O'Neill gets sacked anyway
3) He sues the club
4) He loses. Badly.

Not bitter are we, Steve?

Not in the slightest

[Matt Collins]

I don't think QPR are down yet as they have some big games coming up against teams around them. Although we have our noses just above the drop zone I still think its us that will go. Win on Sunday, however, coupled together with defeats for Stoke, Sunderland, Southampton, Wigan, QPR, and Reading and I may change that opinion. Oh, and we need to win something like 21-0.

That's absurdly eye-ore like! If all those results came in it would be a minor miracle. And I don't get the obsession with goal difference. It's a potentially significant hurdle but a) the absolute maximum advantage / disadvantage it can amount to is 1 extra point. And ours isn't much worse than Wigan's at the moment anyway (currently 3 goals).

[SoccerHQ]

The novelty of being a competent PL club has worn off for a lot of the Stoke fans and after a cup final and Europe they are frustrated at not kicking on from there. For that reason they are starting to turn against the style of play too.. On the other hand Pulis and the owner seem to have a strong relationship.

I think Charlton were similar in that Curbishley would always keep them up, but never push them on.  It's when that became not enough and we left, things started to go wrong for them.  Pulis will keep them up, but if they sack him they'll be on borrowed time in the PL. 

Stoke are exactly like SHA when they first came up in 2002....up for it and filling the ground every week making it an imtimidating place. However we saw what happened to SHA once the novelty of a season or two in the prem wore off and the same is happening to Stoke. That and Delap being knackered means they're fcuked for goals as the long throw was the source for most of them.

Big Sam will surely be the next Stoke manager. Get a footballing manager in and he'd have to sell most of the squad for a start.

[Des Little]

The way I see it, if we equal or better Wigan's result and better Sunderland's, we have every chance of staying up. If Wigan win and we lose, the big mo will swing back their way

[SoccerHQ]

I think we'll be back in the bottom 3 as I reckon Wigan will beat Norwich.

Incredible to think when we've just won our two league 6 pointers.

That said unless Fergie fields Bobby Charlton, Stepney and Pat Crerand on saturday, I really don't see how Sunderland will win, point at best for them and I reckon they'll lose away at Chelsea and Newcastle so they will surely drop into the bottom 3 by the time we play them.

[SoccerHQ]

Seems like their equivilant of the Moscow dinner:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=769062

[dave.woodhall]

Seems like their equivilant of the Moscow dinner:

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=769062

Every time I read that board I wish they'd fuck him off so I could start liking Sunderland again.

[jcsutv]

Do any of them like him?