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Offline Risso

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2010, 12:41:42 PM »
It's the part where he ties competitiveness to resources where I see a potential issue. 

Where's the issue?  We can't compete with City on a financial level, it's obvious.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2010, 12:41:59 PM »
I wouldn't read too much into the size and resources thing.

Old Trafford is almost twice the size of Villa Park and is full every week, they have global brand and have dominated English football for the past two decades. I won't take it as an insult if we haven't got the resources to yet match that but trust that Randy is trying to build something solid and lasting here so that we can compete at the top level.

Agree, I see nothing wrong in what he's said.  We have to work with the resources we've got as do every club.  Man U, Man City and Chelsea, it's the same for these clubs too.  The only difference being that the resources available at these clubs are far greater that what are available to us. 

Something we know already.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2010, 12:45:59 PM »
I think the resources part is obviously in reference to the fact we're not bank-rolled by an oil-rich multi, multi, multi billionaire.

I'm not reading too much into that.

We are still in the transfer window remember, so Randy obviously had to make sure that other buying/selling clubs don't think that they can take the piss while we are without a manager. Indeed, he states that there is no change in the approach to building the club which means that their aim is to still get CL football.

Offline exigo

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2010, 12:46:40 PM »
The best statement we'll see this week is a statement of intent from the players: pre-match huddle, get the fans behind them, tear West Ham a new one.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2010, 12:47:14 PM »
It's the part where he ties competitiveness to resources where I see a potential issue. 

Where's the issue?  We can't compete with City on a financial level, it's obvious.

Man City are the exception to just about every football finance rule ever written.  I may be reading too muich into it and time will tell, but's almost 'we know our place in the scheme of things' comment.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2010, 12:48:12 PM »
It's the part where he ties competitiveness to resources where I see a potential issue. 

Where's the issue?  We can't compete with City on a financial level, it's obvious.

The fact that he said it is the only issue. There was no need for it but he wanted to make the point that we are working under different circumstances now. I have a real fear that if they cannot sell the players previously identified then they'll sell others who we'd be less happy to see go in order to achieve their aim of cutting the wage bill. I hope I'm wrong, time will tell.

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2010, 12:49:48 PM »
The Mat Kendrick story in the Mail today said that they want to reduce wages to 60% of turnover. That will have a profound effect on our stated ambitions.


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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2010, 12:51:32 PM »
The best statement we'll see this week is a statement of intent from the players: pre-match huddle, get the fans behind them, tear West Ham a new one.

They might play better now that they are not constrained by a certain 'style'...

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2010, 12:51:44 PM »
The Mat Kendrick story in the Mail today said that they want to reduce wages to 60% of turnover. That will have a profound effect on our stated ambitions.



Not necessarily, if that's 60% of an ever increasing turnover.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2010, 12:58:57 PM »
Chicken and egg though. If 4 years of investment without strings haven't got us a to a position where we can sustain the current squad's wages I can't see how we're going to get to a point where we can sustain those of a better squad.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2010, 01:00:38 PM »
Although we now have to accept the wage to revenue ratio, which will have an impact on our ability to compete that the highest level, I still think it's a good thing.

Randy will not be around forever, and building a club that has a wage bill at 60% of the revenue the club generates means that we will be sustainable in the future.

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #56 on: August 11, 2010, 01:01:23 PM »
The Mat Kendrick story in the Mail today said that they want to reduce wages to 60% of turnover. That will have a profound effect on our stated ambitions.


Not necessarily, if that's 60% of an ever increasing turnover.

Do you want to put that into context and explain how you think we might do that?

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #57 on: August 11, 2010, 01:05:18 PM »
Although we now have to accept the wage to revenue ratio, which will have an impact on our ability to compete that the highest level, I still think it's a good thing.

Randy will not be around forever, and building a club that has a wage bill at 60% of the revenue the club generates means that we will be sustainable in the future.

Agreed it is what we should strive for in the mid to long term but I think it will have some impact on our short term ambitions.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2010, 01:05:23 PM »
It's the part where he ties competitiveness to resources where I see a potential issue. 

Where's the issue?  We can't compete with City on a financial level, it's obvious.

The fact that he said it is the only issue. There was no need for it but he wanted to make the point that we are working under different circumstances now.

Great! I hope it means that he'll be telling the new manager that he'd best be buying players that he intends to use once in a while and, perhaps just maybe, in the position that they've bought in to play.

That'd be fucking fantastic, that would!

Other than that, there are to be no changes with how Randy will build the club.
That's BUILD. Not dismantle, not reduce, not to leave derilict. Build.
I for one am very happy if the current board at Villa keep doing things how they've been doing things.

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Re: Statement this morning
« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2010, 01:06:02 PM »
It's the part where he ties competitiveness to resources where I see a potential issue. 

Where's the issue?  We can't compete with City on a financial level, it's obvious.

The fact that he said it is the only issue. There was no need for it but he wanted to make the point that we are working under different circumstances now. I have a real fear that if they cannot sell the players previously identified then they'll sell others who we'd be less happy to see go in order to achieve their aim of cutting the wage bill. I hope I'm wrong, time will tell.

Those lesser players we can't shift - whether it be because nobody wants them, nobody can afford their wages, or they don't want to take a pay cut to leave - are players bought by MON.

If we end up having to sell players at the top end instead, then it shows the folly of some of those signings.

Furthermore, if - if - the situation is that serious, it also shows the manager was lacking in stomach for the fight if he walked at the slightest hint he'd need to play his part.

 


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