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Offline pmk1981

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3585 on: September 04, 2010, 09:00:00 AM »
This paper talk about our new manager has to be rubbish  even if randy Lerner was on his way to the nut house he wouldn't employ Steve Staunton as coach. That's just crazy!!!  I say let's ignore all this rubbish 'paper' talk and we may get a nice surprise.  Remember it's only paper talk

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3586 on: September 04, 2010, 09:48:08 AM »
Our last manager was hailed by many as the Messiah, spent shed loads and lost two of our best players and gave away several future Internationals, leaving too many expensive dead woods in their place. He achieved several 6th places and a few Wembley defeats.
Whoever gets the job doesn't have overly much to live up to,so even if spending is limited he won't have to set his sights too high, maybe 6th or higher, a good cup run, setting up a decent scouting network, unloading a few overpaid players and coherent post match comments. I doubt,KM, excepted that such is beyond many on the list so why be so concerned.


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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3587 on: September 04, 2010, 09:51:03 AM »
Our last manager was hailed by many as the Messiah, blah blah blah self seeking bollocks etc

Nope, the only people who used wanky terms like the Messiah were thick pricks on the wind up.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3588 on: September 04, 2010, 09:57:19 AM »
How much was O'Runner on, does anyone know ?

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3589 on: September 04, 2010, 10:01:38 AM »
I still want Sven!!

Sven all the way, he is the biggest name in the list we have interviewed!

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3590 on: September 04, 2010, 10:02:54 AM »
How much was O'Runner on, does anyone know ?

Wasn't it about 3 million

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3591 on: September 04, 2010, 10:03:39 AM »
I still want Sven!!

Sven all the way, he is the biggest name in the list we have interviewed!

Snap

Think that ones dead in the water now

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3592 on: September 04, 2010, 10:14:16 AM »
Our last manager was hailed by many as the Messiah, spent shed loads and lost two of our best players and gave away several future Internationals, leaving too many expensive dead woods in their place. He achieved several 6th places and a few Wembley defeats.
Whoever gets the job doesn't have overly much to live up to,so even if spending is limited he won't have to set his sights too high, maybe 6th or higher, a good cup run, setting up a decent scouting network, unloading a few overpaid players and coherent post match comments. I doubt,KM, excepted that such is beyond many on the list so why be so concerned.

Football is about opinions. I could not disagree with yours more.

MON delivered the best three consecutive finishes of any post WW2 manager. Not the Messiah? Perhaps. But how good does it have to get for you? The existing scouting network delivered that.

“Lost” two of our best players – to the richest club in the world. Hardly a hanging crime. “Gave away several future internationals” – who? And were they left in a bag outside an Oxfam shop? And even if players do go on to become Internationals, you can play for Swansea and be an International.

To say that MON’s successor does not have much to live up to is factual nonsense. See above. Is losing an FA Cup semi final to the winners and League Champions a disgrace?

No manager gets it right all the time, but Ashley Young, Dunne, James Collins snr, Milner, Freidel have all been fine additions to the squad. Yes there have been some Dodo’s, Heskey, Harewood, Petrov, but you don’t get it right all the time – no manager does.

I agree with you that Kmac is not the man for the job. But no-one will match or beat MON’s performance over the next three seasons. Mark my words.

The wind does seem to be blowing Houllier’s direction, and I am neither particularly for, or against. The club does need a strong Administrative and footballing structure which is not beholden to any manager. Houllier might be the man for the job. But so might Graham Taylor in a DOF role. I do not like the idea of kmac working under Houllier as coach.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3593 on: September 04, 2010, 10:38:47 AM »
i'm glad its not going to be Moyes,
 i know that sounds mad, and i agree he's a good manager and done a good job at Everton.

but for me his style of football is very similar to MON and i'm fed up with that,
 i know he has got a bit better latley and has Arteta, but its still functional and unimagineative [is that a proper word ?]

dont forget his team couldnt break down a piss poor villa performance last week, and where have we heard that before.

so i may be the only one, but Moyes was just more of the same for me.

Houllier has a terible transfer record, but i'm hoping for better and a more attractive style of play from him,
i'm 50/50 on his appointment if thats who we got

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3594 on: September 04, 2010, 11:00:38 AM »
Our last manager was hailed by many as the Messiah, spent shed loads and lost two of our best players and gave away several future Internationals, leaving too many expensive dead woods in their place. He achieved several 6th places and a few Wembley defeats.
Whoever gets the job doesn't have overly much to live up to,so even if spending is limited he won't have to set his sights too high, maybe 6th or higher, a good cup run, setting up a decent scouting network, unloading a few overpaid players and coherent post match comments. I doubt,KM, excepted that such is beyond many on the list so why be so concerned.

Football is about opinions. I could not disagree with yours more.

MON delivered the best three consecutive finishes of any post WW2 manager. Not the Messiah? Perhaps. But how good does it have to get for you? The existing scouting network delivered that.

“Lost” two of our best players – to the richest club in the world. Hardly a hanging crime. “Gave away several future internationals” – who? And were they left in a bag outside an Oxfam shop? And even if players do go on to become Internationals, you can play for Swansea and be an International.

To say that MON’s successor does not have much to live up to is factual nonsense. See above. Is losing an FA Cup semi final to the winners and League Champions a disgrace?

No manager gets it right all the time, but Ashley Young, Dunne, James Collins snr, Milner, Freidel have all been fine additions to the squad. Yes there have been some Dodo’s, Heskey, Harewood, Petrov, but you don’t get it right all the time – no manager does.

I agree with you that Kmac is not the man for the job. But no-one will match or beat MON’s performance over the next three seasons. Mark my words.

The wind does seem to be blowing Houllier’s direction, and I am neither particularly for, or against. The club does need a strong Administrative and footballing structure which is not beholden to any manager. Houllier might be the man for the job. But so might Graham Taylor in a DOF role. I do not like the idea of kmac working under Houllier as coach.


Petrov a dodo? Most of the rest i agree with, although i think the right manager could improve a little on MON's record and play much more entertaining football at the same time. Thats what we need to be aiming for anyway. Houllier, however, will not improve on the level of success MON acheived. But yes, SFX does talk some nonsense in that lot, unfortunate because i thought his tablets had been working to an extent recently.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3595 on: September 04, 2010, 11:20:33 AM »
I'm sweating like a gerbil in a gay bar

ha ha that line really tickled me, LOL  gonna use that one, i have been using " sweating like a chior boy in a vestry" line

Type in sweating like a ... jokes on google. You will find loads more.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3596 on: September 04, 2010, 11:44:50 AM »
I can take Houllier being appointed manager

but to have him as a DoF or Technical Director and MacDonald as head coach would be an awful idea IMO

when has that ever worked? not being funny i genuinely can't remember the last time i saw that become a success

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3597 on: September 04, 2010, 11:56:52 AM »
Houllier has a terible transfer record, but i'm hoping for better and a more attractive style of play from him
Don't count on it John. Liverpool under him were mostly dull and uninspiring.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3598 on: September 04, 2010, 12:03:51 PM »
Our last manager was hailed by many as the Messiah, spent shed loads and lost two of our best players and gave away several future Internationals, leaving too many expensive dead woods in their place. He achieved several 6th places and a few Wembley defeats.
Whoever gets the job doesn't have overly much to live up to,so even if spending is limited he won't have to set his sights too high, maybe 6th or higher, a good cup run, setting up a decent scouting network, unloading a few overpaid players and coherent post match comments. I doubt,KM, excepted that such is beyond many on the list so why be so concerned.



Despite leaving at an awkward time, MON did a bloody good job for us. Yes he had his faults, but i think a couple of years down the line, we'll look back and appreciate what he did. I already do.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #3599 on: September 04, 2010, 12:29:34 PM »
Houllier has a terible transfer record, but i'm hoping for better and a more attractive style of play from him
Don't count on it John. Liverpool under him were mostly dull and uninspiring.

yeah, thanks, thats made me feel a whole lot better !

 


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