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Offline ktvillan

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2970 on: September 02, 2010, 12:53:17 PM »
On the face of it Houllier's record at Liverpool wasn't bad. But I seem to recall their fans were very frustrated with him, especially  towards the end and he spent a lot of money on some very averages players -  Bruno Cheyrou,  Bernard Diomede, Smicer, Rigobert Song, Henchoz, Djimi Traore, Salif Diou, Titi Camara, Igor Biscan to name a few.   

I'd rather have him than Alan "atmosphere hoover" Curbishley but I'd rather have Sven than either of them.

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2971 on: September 02, 2010, 12:55:48 PM »
I cannot imagine that the baord would be so daft as to appoint that usual nasal fuckwit Curbishley. My money is on Sven if the lists of managers we are looking at are to be believed.

Offline MoetVillan

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2972 on: September 02, 2010, 12:57:54 PM »
Sven, who has yet to convince me he really cares about any of the positions he has held since (and including England).  Remember him?, the guy that shows the same emotion to conceding and scoring?  He is a "name", but also a name thats happy to take the money, and as much of it as he can.  In defence of Curbs, he did an outstanding job at Charlton, much outperformed the predictions.  Look at them now.  And I thought he did ok at West Ham, but never really got a chance.  But he is passionate and wants to succeed.  Its his own country and he knows what it means.  He isnt my first choice, I would have gone after Hiddink.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2973 on: September 02, 2010, 01:00:36 PM »
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Sven, who has yet to convince me he really cares about any of the positions he has held since (and including England)

And before England. Didn't he agree to manage blackburn only to fuck off to Italy at the last minute when a better offer came along?

He's an opportunist. I'd rather have McLaren than Sven

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2974 on: September 02, 2010, 01:01:28 PM »
Curbishley did OK at getting Charlton up and keeping them in mid table. Then decided that Tevez wasn't good enough for the first team at West Ham for long periods.

Come on. He is yesterday's man and was average then. We would have to be nuts to appoint him.

Offline Merv

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2975 on: September 02, 2010, 01:02:47 PM »
Yeah, that was 15 years ago, I think. Blackburn wanted him, Lazio wanted him.


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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2976 on: September 02, 2010, 01:03:02 PM »
The thread poll now is very misleading as time has gone on, not least because the fans favourite Jol is clearly not coming.

It would be interesting to see what the results of a "zeroed" poll would now be.

If availability and some sort of track record is a requirement the list is very thin:
Koeman
Sven
Bradley
Curbishley
Southgate
Kmac
Klinsmann
Houllier

I'd hope that they are also looking at the likes of Queiroz and Le Guen. Not so much that they are fancy foreign names, but both fit the bill for me in being the sort who could build a club up by investing in top young talent, which  I think should also be a  primary requirement in our new manager. Le Guen is available and Queiroz might be, so I think they are at least semi-realistic. There may be some questions about their managerial record, but if we're looking for perfection then I don't think Mourinho is available somehow.

Offline ktvillan

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2977 on: September 02, 2010, 01:03:40 PM »
Sven, who has yet to convince me he really cares about any of the positions he has held since (and including England).  Remember him?, the guy that shows the same emotion to conceding and scoring?  He is a "name", but also a name thats happy to take the money, and as much of it as he can.  In defence of Curbs, he did an outstanding job at Charlton, much outperformed the predictions.  Look at them now.  And I thought he did ok at West Ham, but never really got a chance.  But he is passionate and wants to succeed.  Its his own country and he knows what it means.  He isnt my first choice, I would have gone after Hiddink.

You criticize Sven for lack of emotion and describe Curbishley as passionate? From what I've seen of Curbs'"passion" he makes Sven look like an erupting volcano.

Offline Cuz

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2978 on: September 02, 2010, 01:04:24 PM »
Curbishley No Thanks

Offline garyfouroaks

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2979 on: September 02, 2010, 01:05:10 PM »
Why would Sven be a good candidate? Other than him being neither KMac or Curbishley? He needs to have money to do anything anywhere - see Lazio, Man City, Notts County and without it he isn't good enough. He made his name in Sweden at Gothenburg granted but since then its been money all the way that has built his reputation. Failed with England, failed badly with Mexico, and the same with the Ivory Coast. he will need to work within budgetry restrictions at Villa. Definitely not the man for us. He will bring Beckham with him though, by all accounts.

Lets take a look at that. He won promotion with Degefors with little money, at Gothenberg he won three domestic honours and the UEFA Cup on a budget. At Benfica, he won three domestic titles and a UEFA Cup finalist spot despite Benfica not being a Euro force financially. He wins domestic Cups with Sampdoria and  Roma, both not financial power houses, he then goes back to Benfica and takes them to the final of the European Cup- and another title. Yes he had money to spend at Lazio and Man City – but that comes with big jobs doesn’t it? So the idea that Sven can only work with money is factually incorrect.

As for England, Capello has done no better and has a fine distinguished record. Compared to anyone since Sir Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson, did he fail? I don’t think so.

His record is an exemplary one. Are you really going to hold the Ivory Coast and Mexico against him?

In an imperfect world, and with very few options, i think you seriously misjudge his credentials.

Offline garyfouroaks

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2980 on: September 02, 2010, 01:06:28 PM »
You criticize Sven for lack of emotion and describe Curbishley as passionate? From what I've seen of Curbs'"passion" he makes Sven look like an erupting volcano.

And Ulrika rated him

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2981 on: September 02, 2010, 01:06:50 PM »
I am still somewhat surprised that the only concrete link we have seen so far is Curbishley.

That's very, very worrying indeed.

Offline richard moore

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2982 on: September 02, 2010, 01:07:49 PM »
Me too.

Dowie for Villa!


At least we'd get more women flocking to VP...



Sorry, is that reply out of sequence?


What do you think!!!!

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2983 on: September 02, 2010, 01:08:58 PM »
As for England, Capello has done no better and has a fine distinguished record. Compared to anyone since Sir Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson, did he fail? I don’t think so.

The England job has broken lots of very, very good managers. I don't think it should be held against him.

Look at Capello's problems with England, then look at his club record.

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #2984 on: September 02, 2010, 01:12:54 PM »
I would take Capello like a shot.

 


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