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Offline Dribbler

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2010, 05:37:06 PM »
I want someone who

will promote youth and don't be afraid to play them

will use players in right position and doesn't have favourites (benefit like of Luke Young)

bring in quality players from oversea like Arsene Wenger

keep a strong english core in the team

modern tactics

entertaining and passing football.

Who is the man ? I don't know but I would love Joseph Guardiola of Barcelona. 

We need to find next generation Arsene Wenger to take over Aston Villa but who ?

Joachim Loeb would be my choice if we can't get Martin Jol.


Klinsmann is pretty much all of the above. The way that Germany play now is the style that was instigated and set up by him. I read an excellent article by him just after the world cup and remember thinking at the time that this is the kind of philosophy we need at the club.

Article

Would however prefer someone with Premiership experience.

Offline john e

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2010, 05:37:30 PM »
i
Billy Davies or Ian Holloway, I despair!

Why did not do this 2 weeks ago and get Hughes

Martinez or Jol for me

I fear its gonna be Fat Sam


i think Fat Sam would be my tipping point

Offline shipscat

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2010, 05:38:05 PM »
Apparant on the odds checker that Bradley and Jol's are both tumbling sharpish.

For me,like our next signings,it's got to be someone with youth,the burning passion to remake us in his own image and a strong tactical presence.As fthe game is evolving rapidly at present,I'd go for Bilic

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2010, 05:38:28 PM »
it won't be Curbishley. The board will be much more ambitious than that. I think the only manager in the UK that would want the job and is qualfied is David Moyes. Other than that I think they'll look to the continent. Either way we will be seeing a bit shift in our transfer policy. I would love to see Moyes as for me he ticks every box:

Team plays attractive football
Develops kids
Can work within a tight budget
Finds gems in a variety of markets
Proven Premiership record
His players, and supporters love him
He's not going to get any financial support at Everton, and I don't think he'll ever get the Man U job.

If not Moyes, which I grant you will be difficult to get, then Jol

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2010, 05:39:36 PM »
Moyes no chance, I would love it to be him but is god at Everton

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2010, 05:39:56 PM »
Personally, I think Martin Jol should be at the lower end of the range of managers we should be considering.

Even though I was vocal in my criticism of O'Neill, I always said that if the alternative was someone like Curbishley then we should stick by O'Neill.  If we can appoint a genuinely top class manager then O'Neill's work over the last four years can be built on to achieve real success.  If we appoint someone of Curbishley's calibre then it's back to the doldrums, I'm afraid.

I think it all hinges on how much money there is for the new manager.  Pretty much everything else is in place.

Offline PONGO49

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2010, 05:41:20 PM »
Ian Taylor or Sid Cowens

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2010, 05:41:43 PM »
Toronto, out of your qualities there it's the "proven Premiership record" which will be hardest to find. Other than Jol, the gettable managers with experience of our league are rubbish. I think that Bilic has to be a serious candidate.

Hilts, Jol - lower end? I could just about imagine middle-range, but lower end? Who's the upper end? If MON's gone because of finances I don't think we're about to buy out Mourinho's contract.

Offline enigma

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2010, 05:42:17 PM »
I want someone who

will promote youth and don't be afraid to play them

will use players in right position and doesn't have favourites (benefit like of Luke Young)

bring in quality players from oversea like Arsene Wenger

keep a strong english core in the team

modern tactics

entertaining and passing football.

Who is the man ? I don't know but I would love Joseph Guardiola of Barcelona. 

We need to find next generation Arsene Wenger to take over Aston Villa but who ?

Joachim Loeb would be my choice if we can't get Martin Jol.


Klinsmann is pretty much all of the above. The way that Germany play now is the style that was instigated and set up by him. I read an excellent article by him just after the world cup and remember thinking at the time that this is the kind of philosophy we need at the club.

Article

Would however prefer someone with Premiership experience.

The real brains behind Germany at the World cup four years ago was Joachim Low. The German FA knew this and that's why they promoted him. Klinsmann was more the public figurehead. He was a disaster at Bayern when he had to go it alone. Tactically, he was all over the place.

Offline Arsey

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2010, 05:43:08 PM »
Nice of MON to wait until just before the season starts. 

I would make Moyes an offer he can not refuse.  Failing that Jol isn't a bad shout.  Whoever it is I hope they are given money to spend but I just don't think the money is there anymore.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2010, 05:43:31 PM »
Personally, I think Martin Jol should be at the lower end of the range of managers we should be considering.

Even though I was vocal in my criticism of O'Neill, I always said that if the alternative was someone like Curbishley then we should stick by O'Neill.  If we can appoint a genuinely top class manager then O'Neill's work over the last four years can be built on to achieve real success.  If we appoint someone of Curbishley's calibre then it's back to the doldrums, I'm afraid.

I think it all hinges on how much money there is for the new manager.  Pretty much everything else is in place.

And how many 'genuinely top class' managers are currently looking for work? Of those how many are looking for work at a club about to sell their best player and where all the signs point to a club looking to cut back not push on?

Offline enigma

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2010, 05:44:23 PM »
Bob Bradley is an interesting one. No idea what his club career has been like but he's very highly thought of in football circles. I thought he'd end up at Fulham to be honest.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2010, 05:45:13 PM »
Nice of MON to wait until just before the season starts. 

I would make Moyes an offer he can not refuse.  Failing that Jol isn't a bad shout.  Whoever it is I hope they are given money to spend but I just don't think the money is there anymore.

We cannot make Moyes an offer unless Everton allow us to. They'd be unwilling at the best of times but 5 days before the start of the season there is not a chance they'd agree.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2010, 05:46:31 PM »
Toronto, out of your qualities there it's the "proven Premiership record" which will be hardest to find. Other than Jol, the gettable managers with experience of our league are rubbish. I think that Bilic has to be a serious candidate.

Hilts, Jol - lower end? I could just about imagine middle-range, but lower end? Who's the upper end? If MON's gone because of finances I don't think we're about to buy out Mourinho's contract.

I agree about proven PL record bit which is why Moyes makes most sense if give free reign on appointing a successor. I think he needs a change in scenery for his own career to push on.

I also don't agree that Jol is lower end at all. He was doing a fine job at Spurs before being sacked.

As for some of the other names, the likes of Curbishley are going to get thrown out with every appointment becaus they are unemployed. He's a no-name in the game now, and he won't even get close to this job. When he resurfaces it will be at a lower end PL club or Championship team. That's his level.

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Re: The replacement for MON...?
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2010, 05:46:44 PM »
Martin Jol's coming and he's bringing Luis Suarez with him!

Untrue of course, but if it stops a couple of Villa fans jumping off bridges then I'm glad to help.

God, I'm depressed.

 


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