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Offline Villa'Zawg

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« Reply #105 on: July 22, 2010, 07:55:39 PM »
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I think the 3 or 4 players we can get with the Milner money will make us stronger next season.


Really, like we did with Barry's money?

If its been posted sorry, here's the words from Mon's lips,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/8846298.stm

enjoy.

Selling Milner is one thing, but that attitude is depressing, I actually feel sorry for the bloke.


This was pathetic. MON needs to stop whinging about how hard life is and set about improving the team (and, concurrently, not wasting money on the wages of players that never sniff the pitch). If there were a sell-to-buy policy (which there is not), then he would only have himself to blame for the exorbitant wages spent on horrible players. The top wage earner at the club is Emile Heskey. Whose fault is that, I wonder? He has had plenty of money at his disposal and used it on a fair amount of garbage (not in total, of course, but his record in this is only so-so). He is arbitrary, capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable in his player selection and then, when he settles on a side, he runs it into the ground. Further, he has proved himself incapable of identifying talent outside of the country and thus is force to pay these higher wages; again, his fault. This whole moan would be laughable if it were not so infuriating.



That little rant would make a lot more sense if we had spent as much on our squad as our competitors have or if our wage bill was above average. You mention our highest earner but our competitors have players earning at least 3 times as much of his earnings.

The fact is we haven't invested enough to be able to compete at a higher level than we are now.

The message we were given from the board of directors was unequivically that our aim was to compete in the CL, did they really expect that to happen when our competiors for those places are spending at least double on their player wage bill and when we have to sell our best player to bring in new players?

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« Reply #106 on: July 22, 2010, 07:59:57 PM »
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The message we were given from the board of directors was unequivically that our aim was to compete in the CL, did they really expect that to happen when our competiors for those places are spending at least double on their player wage bill and when we have to sell our best player to bring in new players?


I know this is your new favourite (flawed) stat, VD, but that would make more sense if the club which did break the top four at the end of the last season, Tottenham, didn't actually have a lower wage bill than us.

Here's a thought - Beye and Shorey - combined wages, what, 80k a week?

How about if we'd not signed them and used that money to pay better wages to attract players at the better end of the scale?

And, regardless of what anyone else pays their players, nobody will convince me that giving a 31 year old Emile Heskey a 3.5 year contract on 60k a week is anything but fucking stupid.

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« Reply #107 on: July 22, 2010, 08:04:16 PM »
Sounds like the cupboard's bare from that interview. ho hum.

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« Reply #108 on: July 22, 2010, 08:09:26 PM »
Heskey is the highest paid player at the club? Oh dear, I feel a bit sick...

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« Reply #109 on: July 22, 2010, 08:15:14 PM »
That interview was horrible! Thudding and banging of the mic all the way through.

One thing was clear though, we have to sell to buy

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« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2010, 08:16:10 PM »
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Heskey is the highest paid player at the club? Oh dear, I feel a bit sick...


I bet that's the feeling of most of the players! He should get paid for the amount of goals he scores

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« Reply #111 on: July 22, 2010, 08:19:24 PM »
Sadly, not all of the words written in my post are my own and I am not sure what is going on. I can see why the post seemed more "rant-like" than it might otherwise have done. I did not write, "capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable" about MON, but I cannot say I do not agree with them; I wish I had used some of them! Nevertheless, I am concerned that someone, and I can only assume it is someone with the capability to edit posts, has added these words and would ask that you not do it again.

pauliewalnuts has it right, in my opinion.

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« Reply #112 on: July 22, 2010, 08:19:46 PM »
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That little rant would make a lot more sense if we had spent as much on our squad as our competitors have or if our wage bill was above average. You mention our highest earner but our competitors have players earning at least 3 times as much of his earnings.


For the purposes of comparison, which clubs do you consider as our competitors?

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« Reply #113 on: July 22, 2010, 08:20:59 PM »
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Sadly, not all of the words written in my post are my own and I am not sure what is going on. I can see why the post seemed more "rant-like" than it might otherwise have done. I did not write, "capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable" about MON, but I cannot say I do not agree with them; I wish I had used some of them! Nevertheless, I am concerned that someone, and I can only assume it is someone with the capability to edit posts, has added these words and would ask that you not do it again.

pauliewalnuts has it right, in my opinion.


It's the word filter. It changes the word fickle into that.

Offline Villa'Zawg

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« Reply #114 on: July 22, 2010, 08:23:24 PM »
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Quote from: "Villadawg"
The message we were given from the board of directors was unequivically that our aim was to compete in the CL, did they really expect that to happen when our competiors for those places are spending at least double on their player wage bill and when we have to sell our best player to bring in new players?


I know this is your new favourite (flawed) stat, VD, but that would make more sense if the club which did break the top four at the end of the last season, Tottenham, didn't actually have a lower wage bill than us.

Here's a thought - Beye and Shorey - combined wages, what, 80k a week?

How about if we'd not signed them and used that money to pay better wages to attract players at the better end of the scale?

And, regardless of what anyone else pays their players, nobody will convince me that giving a 31 year old Emile Heskey a 3.5 year contract on 60k a week is anything but fucking stupid.


You keep mentioning the Spurs wage bill and I've grown bored of telling you it isn't the only way of spending money on players. What were the player amortisation costs at Spurs last season? Spurs overall player costs are higher than ours every year and have been for a very long time. What about Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, and Man City. Are we expected to compete with them or not?

Perhaps we can get the players to sign contracts that say if things don't work out or if Paulie doesn't think you're any good, we'll cut your wages to £500 a week. Do you reckon that will work?

You are living in cloud-cuckoo land if you can't accept that some players turn out to be not as good as you had hoped, it is the same at every single club in the world. If you're going to make a point regarding poor purchases then it should be balanced against the good purchases.

I'm sorry but we simply haven't spent enough to compete at CL level yet and if the investment in the squad has dried up, we'll have to accept that this is as good as it going to get.

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« Reply #115 on: July 22, 2010, 08:25:25 PM »
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Quote from: "pelty"
Sadly, not all of the words written in my post are my own and I am not sure what is going on. I can see why the post seemed more "rant-like" than it might otherwise have done. I did not write, "capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable" about MON, but I cannot say I do not agree with them; I wish I had used some of them! Nevertheless, I am concerned that someone, and I can only assume it is someone with the capability to edit posts, has added these words and would ask that you not do it again.

pauliewalnuts has it right, in my opinion.


It's the word filter. It changes the word fickle into that.


Ah, ok. Sorry about that. Thanks for correcting me...

Offline Villa'Zawg

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« Reply #116 on: July 22, 2010, 08:26:45 PM »
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Quote from: "Villadawg"

That little rant would make a lot more sense if we had spent as much on our squad as our competitors have or if our wage bill was above average. You mention our highest earner but our competitors have players earning at least 3 times as much of his earnings.


For the purposes of comparison, which clubs do you consider as our competitors?



For the purposes of this discussion, the clubs in the top 8. Our competitors for trophies and CL places that the board said we were intending to compete for.

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« Reply #117 on: July 22, 2010, 08:27:52 PM »
I'm surprised about the Tottenham wage bill because it always seems they've got an entirely separate squad that never get near the first team and they also don't seem to sell many players.

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« Reply #118 on: July 22, 2010, 08:28:33 PM »
Quote from: "pelty"
Quote from: "TheSandman"
Quote from: "pelty"
Sadly, not all of the words written in my post are my own and I am not sure what is going on. I can see why the post seemed more "rant-like" than it might otherwise have done. I did not write, "capricious, changeable, cheating, coquettish, double-crossing, faithless, fitful, flighty, frivolous, inconstant, irresolute, lubricious, mercurial, mutable, quicksilver, sneaking, temperamental, ticklish, two-timing, unfaithful, unpredictable" about MON, but I cannot say I do not agree with them; I wish I had used some of them! Nevertheless, I am concerned that someone, and I can only assume it is someone with the capability to edit posts, has added these words and would ask that you not do it again.

pauliewalnuts has it right, in my opinion.


It's the word filter. It changes the word fickle into that.


Ah, ok. Sorry about that. Thanks for correcting me...


Try writing "Steve Hodge".

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« Reply #119 on: July 22, 2010, 08:29:50 PM »
Quote from: "Villadawg"
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"
Quote from: "Villadawg"

That little rant would make a lot more sense if we had spent as much on our squad as our competitors have or if our wage bill was above average. You mention our highest earner but our competitors have players earning at least 3 times as much of his earnings.


For the purposes of comparison, which clubs do you consider as our competitors?



For the purposes of this discussion, the clubs in the top 8. Our competitors for trophies and CL places that the board said we were intending to compete for.


In other words the clubs who are bigger than us, wealthier than us, and have better players than us. How about a fairer comparison - namely including as many clubs below us as above? Or would that mean having to find another New Favourite Statistic to play with?

 


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