The Randy way or Citeh's Trillions ?

[dave.woodhall]

I think all every club suffered, except for those in the PL and those recently out of it, who were still benefiting financially from being in it?

The clubs who suffered most were the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Coventry and Forest, who had just left the Premier League.

[KevinGage]

Randy's way. We retain our heritage and our dignity without becoming a souless shell of a once proud club.

There is that.

But then there is also the distinct possibility/ probability of building on our already impressive trophy haul.

We're already the fourth most successful club side in English football, so it's not as if we could be accused of having no history. Big sides talk about what they are going to do. They don't seek solace in the past.

Would I trade all Randy's class for a few FA Cups and League titles, as per Roman's classy lot over the last decade?  Hell would I play ball for one FA Cup win, to see a Villa captain lift that trophy just once in my lifetime?

Get back to me.

[VinnieChase84]

Citehs trillions. I want Villa to be successful, have the best players and win things!!

[Villa'Zawg]

We're being viewed as and run as a business, Man City simply aren't.

Don't kid yourself John, we're a billionaire's plaything, he just doesn't have that much free cash to throw at us.

I fundementally disagree with that.

You'd be fundamentally wrong then.  The fact is that Randy has had to pump in over £200m to fund our spending, and we're making huge losses.

He purchased an under resourced football club business with the intention of taking it through an investment cycle. He isn't overspending or pouring money down the drain. It's perfectly acceptable and normal to post losses during an investment cycle of this type.

[Risso]

We're being viewed as and run as a business, Man City simply aren't.

Don't kid yourself John, we're a billionaire's plaything, he just doesn't have that much free cash to throw at us.

I fundementally disagree with that.

You'd be fundamentally wrong then.  The fact is that Randy has had to pump in over £200m to fund our spending, and we're making huge losses.

He purchased an under resourced football club business with the intention of taking it through an investment cycle. He isn't overspending or pouring money down the drain. It's perfectly acceptable and normal to post losses during an investment cycle of this type.

I didn't say he was pouring money down the drain.  But the only way he's ever going to make a return, is to either achieve the top 4 for a good few seasons, or sell the club for more than he's spent, which would be difficult in the present economic conditions.

And investment cycle?  Davies, NRC, Sidwell, Harewood and the other overpriced under performing transfers from O'Neill have taken vast sums of money out of the club for very little progress after the first year.  We're getting to the position where we're going to make losses on some of those "investments".

[hawkeye]

I think people are being a bit disingenious, i havent met a citeh or chels fan that regrets thier new found riches.

its pretty easy to stand the morale high ground when you dont have a choice.

[Villa'Zawg]

We're being viewed as and run as a business, Man City simply aren't.

Don't kid yourself John, we're a billionaire's plaything, he just doesn't have that much free cash to throw at us.

I fundementally disagree with that.

You'd be fundamentally wrong then.  The fact is that Randy has had to pump in over £200m to fund our spending, and we're making huge losses.

He purchased an under resourced football club business with the intention of taking it through an investment cycle. He isn't overspending or pouring money down the drain. It's perfectly acceptable and normal to post losses during an investment cycle of this type.

I didn't say he was pouring money down the drain.  But the only way he's ever going to make a return, is to either achieve the top 4 for a good few seasons, or sell the club for more than he's spent, which would be difficult in the present economic conditions.

And investment cycle?  Davies, NRC, Sidwell, Harewood and the other overpriced under performing transfers from O'Neill have taken vast sums of money out of the club for very little progress after the first year.  We're getting to the position where we're going to make losses on some of those "investments".

What do you think Randy's plan is?

[pauliewalnuts]

I think people are being a bit disingenious, i havent met a citeh or chels fan that regrets thier new found riches.

its pretty easy to stand the morale high ground when you dont have a choice.

This much is very true.

[Risso]

Champiosn League inside 5 years wasn't it?

[dave.woodhall]

He purchased an under resourced football club business with the intention of taking it through an investment cycle. He isn't overspending or pouring money down the drain. It's perfectly acceptable and normal to post losses during an investment cycle of this type.

Of what type? How many other billionaires have bought football clubs and earned out of them?

[pauliewalnuts]

Champiosn League inside 5 years wasn't it?

I don't know if it was that, but whatever it is, I hope it isn't much better than we've managed already because 6th, 6th, 6th with a gain of two points every year doesn't suggest we're rapidly approaching anything.

[TheSandman]

I think people are being a bit disingenious, i havent met a citeh or chels fan that regrets thier new found riches.

its pretty easy to stand the morale high ground when you dont have a choice.

Exactly right. If we were in their position we wouldn't be saying 'Oh look we have become a repugnant bunch of cocks' we'd all be pondering whether or not we should sign Torres and whether we'd rather win the CL or the Premiership.

Anyone who disagrees is lying.

[Chris Harte]

Champiosn League inside 5 years wasn't it?

I don't know if it was that, but whatever it is, I hope it isn't much better than we've managed already because 6th, 6th, 6th with a gain of two points every year doesn't suggest we're rapidly approaching anything.

I remember that Sheffield United game when we were given free scarves and it was initimated that we were heading for the big time and that it would happen soon.

Three years on we're still waiting.

[IronDukeVillain]

Citeh's millions but our way, seeing youngsters come through, i really am becoming disillusioned though with football,  when Chelsea started this i was well Pi$$ed with them and now Citeh. Personally i want all the other teams now to beat Manchester City, i am hating them more than United, now that is something!!!

[TimTheVillain]

Champiosn League inside 5 years wasn't it?

I don't know if it was that, but whatever it is, I hope it isn't much better than we've managed already because 6th, 6th, 6th with a gain of two points every year doesn't suggest we're rapidly approaching anything.

I remember that Sheffield United game when we were given free scarves and it was initimated that we were heading for the big time and that it would happen soon.

Three years on we're still waiting.

I do hope the free coaches to Chelsea and free scarves weren't just sweeteners to win us over as Randy would have known they were so what we would never have had under the previous occupancy.