Villa striker Emile Heskey retires...

[stevenjos]

Never said it did.  But people can thank Ivanhoe for his effort without commenting on how shit a footballer he was.  It is possible.

Quite.  :-)

But its totally illogical to thank someone for holding you back? Its a bit like thanking Doug for the effort he put in?

as bill hicks would of said "STOP IT, more........."

are you talking about Ivanhoe for Villa or England ?  Holding back Villa ? probably.
he certainly did not hold back England.

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The Doc

Sorry doc, but a striker who does not score, injures our best defender forcing a cripple or shit scouser to play, forces gerrard from the role he is good at, keeps creative players from the team and generally is league one standard, holds back a team.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Those who really think Heskey is that bad should remember some of the real "couldn't give a shit" merchants we've had playing down the Villa, taking the piss out of us.

What about Heskey's statement earlier this year when he wanted to leave as he thought his England place was in doubt due to not starting many games?  Nothing then about doing his best for Villa and getting back in the side on merit.

Not sure how what you've just said relates to the quote from me that you've included.

Are you saying Heskey couldn't give a shit? Most reasonable Villa fans would probably disagree, whatever their opinon on his talent.

[Risso]

Those who really think Heskey is that bad should remember some of the real "couldn't give a shit" merchants we've had playing down the Villa, taking the piss out of us.

What about Heskey's statement earlier this year when he wanted to leave as he thought his England place was in doubt due to not starting many games?  Nothing then about doing his best for Villa and getting back in the side on merit.

Not sure how what you've just said relates to the quote from me that you've included.

Are you saying Heskey couldn't give a shit? Most reasonable Villa fans would probably disagree, whatever their opinon on his talent.

Well, it certainly seemed that he gave more of a shit for England than he did Villa.

[pauliewalnuts]

Isn't Emile rumoured to be on 60k a week?

Whilst I don't think his lack of effort is the main problem (that'll be his shitness), I find it hard to praise anyone for said effort when they're picking up that kind of money.

Certainly when you think of people like Paul Birch. I wonder how much he picked up

[Olneythelonely]

Those who really think Heskey is that bad should remember some of the real "couldn't give a shit" merchants we've had playing down the Villa, taking the piss out of us.

What about Heskey's statement earlier this year when he wanted to leave as he thought his England place was in doubt due to not starting many games?  Nothing then about doing his best for Villa and getting back in the side on merit.

Not sure how what you've just said relates to the quote from me that you've included.

Are you saying Heskey couldn't give a shit? Most reasonable Villa fans would probably disagree, whatever their opinon on his talent.

Well, it certainly seemed that he gave more of a shit for England than he did Villa.

By wanting to play for Villa and England more?

[Chico Hamilton III]

 Well, it certainly seemed that he gave more of a shit for England than he did Villa.

well, if you judge him by his (agent's?) words, maybe. I'll judge his effort on the pitch based on his effort on the pitch, not what a statement "seemed" to imply.

Like I say, he's not a brilliant player at all - and I won't argue with anyone who says he's crap. But to criticise his effort is, well, a bit lazy if you ask me

[Risso]

 Well, it certainly seemed that he gave more of a shit for England than he did Villa.

well, if you judge him by his (agent's?) words, maybe. I'll judge his effort on the pitch based on his effort on the pitch, not what a statement "seemed" to imply.

Like I say, he's not a brilliant player at all - and I won't argue with anyone who says he is. But to criticise his effort is, well, a bit lazy if you ask me

It wasn't his agent at all, it was him being asked a direct question in an interview, that O'Neill later tried to claim "was taken out of context".  (It wasn't).

[Risso]

Those who really think Heskey is that bad should remember some of the real "couldn't give a shit" merchants we've had playing down the Villa, taking the piss out of us.

What about Heskey's statement earlier this year when he wanted to leave as he thought his England place was in doubt due to not starting many games?  Nothing then about doing his best for Villa and getting back in the side on merit.

Not sure how what you've just said relates to the quote from me that you've included.

Are you saying Heskey couldn't give a shit? Most reasonable Villa fans would probably disagree, whatever their opinon on his talent.

Well, it certainly seemed that he gave more of a shit for England than he did Villa.

By wanting to play for Villa and England more?

Well, that's one way of looking at it.  Another is that he seemed to think that he had a given given right to be in the England team, and that rather than trying to improve on his piss poor showings for Villa, he'd ask for a transfer instead.

[PaulTheVillan]

He had a better world cup than Rooney. Now who'd have thought that was going to happen.

[TheSandman]

I love to trot this one out but Emile has scored more goals at World Cups than Rooney as of yet despite being a defensive striker.

Now as much as I defend him on here I'd like him to leave with my best wishes.

[Karl Bridges]

Sorry doc, but a striker who does not score, injures our best defender forcing a cripple or shit scouser to play, forces gerrard from the role he is good at, keeps creative players from the team and generally is league one standard, holds back a team.

I think you may have to chalk that one down to Cappello, Unless Emile is picking the side now.

[Dave]

Sorry doc, but a striker who does not score, injures our best defender forcing a cripple or shit scouser to play, forces gerrard from the role he is good at, keeps creative players from the team and generally is league one standard, holds back a team.

I think you may have to chalk that one down to Cappello, Unless Emile is picking the side now.

I'm not sure that there has ever been a position in the England team that Gerrard has been good at.

And that is Gerrard's fault, not Heskey's.

[stevenjos]

Sorry doc, but a striker who does not score, injures our best defender forcing a cripple or shit scouser to play, forces gerrard from the role he is good at, keeps creative players from the team and generally is league one standard, holds back a team.

I think you may have to chalk that one down to Cappello, Unless Emile is picking the side now.

I'm not sure that there has ever been a position in the England team that Gerrard has been good at.

And that is Gerrard's fault, not Heskey's.

My only theory is husky has pornography of every manager he has and forces them to play 442 to include him.

It's the only logical explanation of his inclusion!

[Crabman]

Heskey was quoted as saying,

 "Id like to focus all my energy on falling over for Aston Villa"

[garyfouroaks]

A great loss to England, Capello, and world football in general.And at only 32, he had so much more to give. Surely, though, the FA will try to talk him round when the next finals loom? International Goalkeepers will sleep easier in their beds tonight.

I for one am delighted that he can now concentrate 100% in banging those goals in for Villa, and terrorising opposition defences without having to suffer the debilitating effect of his gruelling International sorties.