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« Reply #75 on: July 17, 2010, 02:06:10 PM »
I read something yesterday which said that in real terms Premier League prices are at a four-year low. Whatever that means.

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« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2010, 05:35:46 PM »
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Personally I think it's actually the ST holders who might feel put out this season.
By hiking match day prices this much they really are pricing out the casual match-by-match fan, and when they realise this (like when some games barely get above the ST holder level) then out will come the bargains. I fully expect to be able to get into the less popular games after Christmas for about a tenner.
And every time they have to discount a league game in order to not have swathes of empty seats, it further devalues your season ticket.


How much have they "hiked" them by?

Mountains out of molehills, something this site does brilliantly.


They have "hiked" them by a couple of quid, it may not be a huge amount in Smith Mansion, but it's certainly enough to put a family of four off going down the Villa in these days off austerity.

In your love of all things Villa, can you not see that putting up match day prices will almost certainly hit attendances? This is Brum, this is Villa, we don't need much excuse not to bother.

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« Reply #77 on: July 18, 2010, 07:29:07 PM »
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Personally I think it's actually the ST holders who might feel put out this season.
By hiking match day prices this much they really are pricing out the casual match-by-match fan, and when they realise this (like when some games barely get above the ST holder level) then out will come the bargains. I fully expect to be able to get into the less popular games after Christmas for about a tenner.
And every time they have to discount a league game in order to not have swathes of empty seats, it further devalues your season ticket.


How much have they "hiked" them by?

Mountains out of molehills, something this site does brilliantly.


They have "hiked" them by a couple of quid, it may not be a huge amount in Smith Mansion, but it's certainly enough to put a family of four off going down the Villa in these days off austerity.

In your love of all things Villa, can you not see that putting up match day prices will almost certainly hit attendances? This is Brum, this is Villa, we don't need much excuse not to bother.


No, I don't think a couple of quid is enough to have a significant impact on crowds. If you're struggling financially then sadly football is already out of your reach. If the argument was about football being too expensive then I'd agree entirely but it isn't, it's whether our prices are unreasonable given the market we operate in and I don't see how anyone can say that they are.

I've always wondered what the official measure for a price hike was, thanks for clarifying.

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« Reply #78 on: July 18, 2010, 07:36:14 PM »
Speaking for myself, this will affect me personally this season, so I'd say that the extra couple of quid is not that much in terms of thinking where you might be able to afford it from, rather that it just pushes over the tipping point where you just look at it and say "I'm not paying that, sod it".

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« Reply #79 on: July 18, 2010, 07:50:49 PM »
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I've always wondered what the official measure for a price hike was, thanks for clarifying.


Oh bollocks Chris, really, just bollocks.

You really are one of the most fucking annoying blokes I've ever known since got on the Internet! You absolutely know that I just used "hike" as another word for "rise", and if I had used "rise" you would have still come up with the same tiresome "pro-Villa" argument to try to justify the price rise/hike of the match day tickets.

I don't know why I rise to your entirely predictable patheticness, but fuck it, why should you be allowed to get away with it?

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« Reply #80 on: July 18, 2010, 08:14:01 PM »
Now obviously I don't get to many games these days, but next time I'm back over, there's no way I could justify paying £40 for a reasonable seat, plus all the other expense like overpriced food and drink.  I know it's not just a Villa thing, but even if we are still amongst the cheapest, over £50 before you add on travel and a few drinks in the pub - it's not a game for the casual fan any more is it?  It's probably a sign that I'm getting old and boring, but I'd rather take the family out for a day on that sort of cash.

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« Reply #81 on: July 18, 2010, 08:30:59 PM »
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Quote from: "Chris Smith"
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"
Personally I think it's actually the ST holders who might feel put out this season.
By hiking match day prices this much they really are pricing out the casual match-by-match fan, and when they realise this (like when some games barely get above the ST holder level) then out will come the bargains. I fully expect to be able to get into the less popular games after Christmas for about a tenner.
And every time they have to discount a league game in order to not have swathes of empty seats, it further devalues your season ticket.


How much have they "hiked" them by?

Mountains out of molehills, something this site does brilliantly.


They have "hiked" them by a couple of quid, it may not be a huge amount in Smith Mansion, but it's certainly enough to put a family of four off going down the Villa in these days off austerity.

In your love of all things Villa, can you not see that putting up match day prices will almost certainly hit attendances? This is Brum, this is Villa, we don't need much excuse not to bother.


No, I don't think a couple of quid is enough to have a significant impact on crowds. If you're struggling financially then sadly football is already out of your reach. If the argument was about football being too expensive then I'd agree entirely but it isn't, it's whether our prices are unreasonable given the market we operate in and I don't see how anyone can say that they are.

I've always wondered what the official measure for a price hike was, thanks for clarifying.


Jesus Wept!

If you go to one match in a season it is not much of a problem. If you go to say 10 games such a rise is much greater. As quoted a cat A match in the Upper North has increased £10 in 2 years. In 10 games it will cost £100 extra.

'If you're struggling financially then sadly football is already out of your reach.' What kind of elitist nonsense is that? That is really a staggering statement.

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« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2010, 10:02:03 PM »
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'If you're struggling financially then sadly football is already out of your reach.' What kind of elitist nonsense is that? That is really a staggering statement.


Stunning isn't it?

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« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2010, 10:05:11 PM »
I haven't had a season ticket for this season for me and my daughter in the upper holte there was a about £100 pound rise on last season, looking at the match day prices i cant see me going to many games unless they have some special deals on.

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« Reply #84 on: July 18, 2010, 10:22:06 PM »
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No, I don't think a couple of quid is enough to have a significant impact on crowds. If you're struggling financially then sadly football is already out of your reach. If the argument was about football being too expensive then I'd agree entirely but it isn't, it's whether our prices are unreasonable given the market we operate in and I don't see how anyone can say that they are.



A couple of quid for an individual may not be significant, but if said individual is the bread winner in the family and wants to bring 2 or 3 of them to a match then the costs begin to mount up.

Villa have put on some great deals over the last few years, but sadly those days look to be over. The club want season ticket holders and affluent prawnies as the audience. Something they have made clear in the Pravda spin this time round.

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« Reply #85 on: July 18, 2010, 10:24:48 PM »
I don't think the club have had any sort of conscious change of emphasis. They know they'll never fill the ground with corporates & well-off families. At this time of the year they're trying to sell us season tickets. As the season wears on it will be cheap deals.

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« Reply #86 on: July 18, 2010, 10:26:45 PM »
I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I do think it is a pretty risky game having such a discrepancy between one-off ticket pricing and season ticket pricing (or, if you choose to see it that way, such a saving for ST holders).

The club risks a situation where people will think "I can't really afford 4-500 quid for the season ticket, I'll pick and choose" only then to find that, when it comes to it, it's a big hit to fork out 40 odd quid to go and see one football match (and that assumes it's just you going, no kids etc etc).

It's a very difficult one to get right.

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« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2010, 09:10:42 AM »
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I've always wondered what the official measure for a price hike was, thanks for clarifying.


Oh bollocks Chris, really, just bollocks.

You really are one of the most fucking annoying blokes I've ever known since got on the Internet! You absolutely know that I just used "hike" as another word for "rise", and if I had used "rise" you would have still come up with the same tiresome "pro-Villa" argument to try to justify the price rise/hike of the match day tickets.

I don't know why I rise to your entirely predictable patheticness, but fuck it, why should you be allowed to get away with it?


You big tart.

Your line was "By hiking match day prices this much", which is clearly implying a big rise when it just isn't the case. You're now trying to back track by saying it was just a figure of speech when the whole thrust of your first post was that the rises were so big it was going to price people out of the market.

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« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2010, 09:16:53 AM »
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'If you're struggling financially then sadly football is already out of your reach.' What kind of elitist nonsense is that? That is really a staggering statement.


Stunning isn't it?


The only thing stunning is your reaction.

For the people I know who aren't working a trip to a PL game is the last thing on their mind. They're more worried about paying the bills and feeding the family. Football priced itself out of the reach of those people decades ago.

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« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2010, 09:20:31 AM »
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I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I do think it is a pretty risky game having such a discrepancy between one-off ticket pricing and season ticket pricing (or, if you choose to see it that way, such a saving for ST holders).

The club risks a situation where people will think "I can't really afford 4-500 quid for the season ticket, I'll pick and choose" only then to find that, when it comes to it, it's a big hit to fork out 40 odd quid to go and see one football match (and that assumes it's just you going, no kids etc etc).

It's a very difficult one to get right.


It is difficult but that's the going rate for PL football, the alternative would be to opt out and accept that we'll never compete at the top end of the table.

 


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