Where is MON ?

[supertom]

I don't think he's an idiot, just a dinosaur. and i do wonder how he's becomes our longest serving manager since Saunders when he's not even in the top3 for trophies won/highest league position

So 3 top 6 finishes in a row and a cup final and a semi final last season is now grounds for sacking somebody. That's armchair fans for you.

Yep. Brilliant isn't it.

We'll do no better than Martin right now. I'm sure he's got plans afoot. He'll realise there's things that need improving on. He'll also be hoping some of our talented youngster begin stepping it up another level.

I think we'll be there or there abouts again. All depends on who we bring in, and whether said imports will open up a different style of play for us, should pln A not be working. If we get the home form right, we're pretty much a top 4 side. We're not far off. Just depends how much Spurs, City and liverpool kick on.

[Hookeysmith]

I and a good few who have spoken out about MON do not want him sacked - but i would like a word in his shell like and just let him know that although comparitively speaking he has been successful during his tenure but at times the football is a chore to watch and i feel this is mainly due to the team being filled with workers first and players 2nd.
This world cup showed England up as we have loads of grafters but behind all of them in the league they have some continental flair to compliment it

I really like Petrov but he has gone from being a senior international captain to a total workhorse - its almost like it has been coached out of him

I want some excitement and some imagination when it comes to transfers

[LeeB]

He is in SA managing England.   Him and Fab are in fact the same person.   Look at the similarities in management style or lack of it.  And the love affair with EH.

Maybe they just both see something that you can't because you're too thick.

I'm offering an opinion. I may be right. TonyD may be right. The truth may lie somewhere in between. I don't know. I don't that much care.

But I know I'm sick to death and tired of being labelled with this 'MON devotee' tag for being genaerally happy with the manager.

He makes decisions which I wouldn't necessarily make. He buys players that I probably wouldn't buy. He treats people in a way I might not. but I'm pretty sure he has very well thought out reasons for doing so, and probably has more information on which to make those decisions than is publicly known.

So far, on balance he's doing a bloddy good job. I still believe he'll get more done. He'll make mistakes along the way, but not a single manager who's walked the earth has'nt and he'll correct them. We're in good hands.

Other people might disagree, fine, lets discuss itl but the constant, childish digs and cliches regarding the manager by the same posters grate after a while.

[Greg N'Ash]

I don't think he's an idiot, just a dinosaur. and i do wonder how he's becomes our longest serving manager since Saunders when he's not even in the top3 for trophies won/highest league position

So 3 top 6 finishes in a row and a cup final and a semi final last season is now grounds for sacking somebody. That's armchair fans for you.

did i say sack him? do try and read what i say first before going off on one. my point is he's had more time and money than his predecessors and yet hasn't achieved as much as at least 3 of them. in that scenario its perfectly logical to criticise his performance

[LeeB]

I don't think he's an idiot, just a dinosaur. and i do wonder how he's becomes our longest serving manager since Saunders when he's not even in the top3 for trophies won/highest league position

So 3 top 6 finishes in a row and a cup final and a semi final last season is now grounds for sacking somebody. That's armchair fans for you.

did i say sack him? do try and read what i say first before going off on one. my point is he's had more time and money than his predecessors and yet hasn't achieved as much as at least 3 of them. in that scenario its perfectly logical to criticise his performance

Would you say he'd had more money, in relation to that of the clubs we compete with, than that of the previous managers?

[Greg N'Ash]

i believe we spend far more now than we did under Doug in relation to our rivals

[LeeB]

i believe we spend far more now than we did under Doug in relation to our rivals

Maybe those below us, but those above?

[Greg N'Ash]

i can't believe you think DOL had more money in relation to say chelsea or Man united than MON has now

[LeeB]

i can't believe you think DOL had more money in relation to say chelsea or Man united than MON has now

Not DOL no, but that was when the dough and run out and he made his own rod by behaving like an utter bell end, I'd say in relation to Taylor, Atkinson, Litlle and Gregory.

And that knob O'Leary spunked the £6.5m we did have on Baros. Prick.

[UsualSuspect]

I don't think he's an idiot, just a dinosaur. and i do wonder how he's becomes our longest serving manager since Saunders when he's not even in the top3 for trophies won/highest league position

So 3 top 6 finishes in a row and a cup final and a semi final last season is now grounds for sacking somebody. That's armchair fans for you.

Just turning the 3 top 6 finishes point around:

If when MON arrived I said to you after 5 seasons in charge and plenty of money available we would have achieved:

3 x 6th place Finishes
1 x 7th place (Just made that up)
1 League Cup Final
1 FA Cup Semi
No European run

Would you have taken that??

I wouldn't

[Chris Smith]

I don't think he's an idiot, just a dinosaur. and i do wonder how he's becomes our longest serving manager since Saunders when he's not even in the top3 for trophies won/highest league position

So 3 top 6 finishes in a row and a cup final and a semi final last season is now grounds for sacking somebody. That's armchair fans for you.

did i say sack him? do try and read what i say first before going off on one. my point is he's had more time and money than his predecessors and yet hasn't achieved as much as at least 3 of them. in that scenario its perfectly logical to criticise his performance

The only way he he wouldn't have become our longest serving manager since Saunders was by being sacked. Therefore implicit in your tiresome critiscism is a suggestion that he should not be in the job. Do try and understand what you are saying yourself before going off on one.

[Greg N'Ash]

we all know we had to sell to buy under ellis. all those managers when they did spend usully did it on the back of selling a yorke or a platt. under lerner we managed to run up a massive loss which would have been unthinkable under ellis. are we closer to the big spenders now than than we were in the 80's and 90's? course we are. weren't we like 3rd biggest spender last summer?

[Chris Smith]

I don't think he's an idiot, just a dinosaur. and i do wonder how he's becomes our longest serving manager since Saunders when he's not even in the top3 for trophies won/highest league position

So 3 top 6 finishes in a row and a cup final and a semi final last season is now grounds for sacking somebody. That's armchair fans for you.

Just turning the 3 top 6 finishes point around:

If when MON arrived I said to you after 5 seasons in charge and plenty of money available we would have achieved:

3 x 6th place Finishes
1 x 7th place (Just made that up)
1 League Cup Final
1 FA Cup Semi
No European run

Would you have taken that??

I wouldn't

What a silly post, the time to judge where we are after 5 seaons is not when the 4th one has just finished.

[Greg N'Ash]

I don't think he's an idiot, just a dinosaur. and i do wonder how he's becomes our longest serving manager since Saunders when he's not even in the top3 for trophies won/highest league position

So 3 top 6 finishes in a row and a cup final and a semi final last season is now grounds for sacking somebody. That's armchair fans for you.

did i say sack him? do try and read what i say first before going off on one. my point is he's had more time and money than his predecessors and yet hasn't achieved as much as at least 3 of them. in that scenario its perfectly logical to criticise his performance

The only way he he wouldn't have become our longest serving manager since Saunders was by being sacked. Therefore implicit in your tiresome critiscism is a suggestion that he should not be in the job. Do try and understand what you are saying yourself before going off on one.

not really. he could have done the decent thing and walked away. he's hit a glass ceiling qnd its now a question of whether you think he is good enough to do any better. whether you do or don't its entirely valid to criticise him because like it or lump it his record aint all that and his style of football less so. personally he's got this season to get above 6th or sling his hook.

[eastie]

I see spurs have offered £28m for 2 players, we are not in that kind of Market and will find it hard to finish above 6th at best as the money available to the teams above us is far more than we can afford to spend,whoever is in charge.