John Moston Gets Destroyed by Brian Clough

[Chico Hamilton III]

Don't forget his drinking and self centredness.

And his fondness for receiving envelopes stuffed with cash at motorway service stations

[newtonsballs]

HOWEVER, I would have loved him to have managed the Villa.

[newtonsballs]

Don't forget his drinking and self centredness.

And his fondness for receiving envelopes stuffed with cash at motorway service stations

Ah, football culture - has it changed?

[AsTallAsLions]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

[LeeB]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

Good look to you then.

I won't miss 'Motty' stumbling for the name of the Villa players as they rip apart his beloved Spurs, or his arselicking knowledge of all the big name players within a 20 mile radius of Shepards Bush.

Give me a man who achieved the unthinkable, with two no-mark clubs, and took tremendous delight in sticking it up the concieted, cynical, self important mobs of Leeds, Man Yoo, and Liverpool.

And commentated on our most glorius night in Rotterdam as though he was one of us. Respect.

And just to add, if we're going to throw a drink problem and self centredness at him then the same applies to God.

[AsTallAsLions]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

Good look to you then.

I won't miss 'Motty' stumbling for the name of the Villa players as they rip apart his beloved Spurs, or his arselicking knowledge of all the big name players within a 20 mile radius of Shepards Bush.

Give me a man who achieved the unthinkable, with two no-mark clubs, and took tremendous delight in sticking it up the concieted, cynical, self important mobs of Leeds, Man Yoo, and Liverpool.

And commentated on our most glorius night in Rotterdam as though he was one of us. Respect.

And just to add, if we're going to throw a drink problem and self centredness at him then the same applies to God.

You're begrudging the man for supporting a team? I wonder how impartial you'd be if you were a professional commentator and you were covering Villa. Probably less so than Motson.

And on the subject of McGrath, I never mentioned him, but am in full agreement with you. It's madness to have people worshipping him. A wonderful player, but that's about it. A sad sad man who by no means should be idolized and should, in fact, just be left alone.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

You'd take someone who has no more knowledge of football (in terms of playing it, not statistics) than yourself over someone who achieved more or less everything their is to achieve in club football?

[AsTallAsLions]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

You'd take someone who has no more knowledge of football (in terms of playing it, not statistics) than yourself over someone who achieved more or less everything their is to achieve in club football?

As a person? Yes. Why would I give a shoot if he knows more about football than Motson, or I? I don't measure a man by how many trophies he's lifted or how much of an ass he can make himself look on national television when an interviewer is just trying to do his job. Which, by the way, also includes critiquing football - whether Clough liked it or not.

[Bosco81]

Motson is a Barnet supporter, and the best commentator by a country mile, you could imagine him going to watch Aldershot v Bournemouth on a tuesday night just to get a football fix.

Jonathon Pearce is his heir apparent, commentators should be stattos.

[Lucky Eddie]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

Good look to you then.

I won't miss 'Motty' stumbling for the name of the Villa players as they rip apart his beloved Spurs, or his arselicking knowledge of all the big name players within a 20 mile radius of Shepards Bush.

Give me a man who achieved the unthinkable, with two no-mark clubs, and took tremendous delight in sticking it up the concieted, cynical, self important mobs of Leeds, Man Yoo, and Liverpool.

And commentated on our most glorius night in Rotterdam as though he was one of us. Respect.

And just to add, if we're going to throw a drink problem and self centredness at him then the same applies to God.

You're begrudging the man for supporting a team? I wonder how impartial you'd be if you were a professional commentator and you were covering Villa. Probably less so than Motson.

And on the subject of McGrath, I never mentioned him, but am in full agreement with you. It's madness to have people worshipping him. A wonderful player, but that's about it. A sad sad man who by no means should be idolized and should, in fact, just be left alone.

A sad, sad man? Thats pretty insulting.

For what it's worth, Pauls adored by millions because despite human frailties, possibly brought about by a tougher than average start in life, he played the game absolutely beautifully.

[AsTallAsLions]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

Good look to you then.

I won't miss 'Motty' stumbling for the name of the Villa players as they rip apart his beloved Spurs, or his arselicking knowledge of all the big name players within a 20 mile radius of Shepards Bush.

Give me a man who achieved the unthinkable, with two no-mark clubs, and took tremendous delight in sticking it up the concieted, cynical, self important mobs of Leeds, Man Yoo, and Liverpool.

And commentated on our most glorius night in Rotterdam as though he was one of us. Respect.

And just to add, if we're going to throw a drink problem and self centredness at him then the same applies to God.

You're begrudging the man for supporting a team? I wonder how impartial you'd be if you were a professional commentator and you were covering Villa. Probably less so than Motson.

And on the subject of McGrath, I never mentioned him, but am in full agreement with you. It's madness to have people worshipping him. A wonderful player, but that's about it. A sad sad man who by no means should be idolized and should, in fact, just be left alone.

A sad, sad man? Thats pretty insulting.

For what it's worth, Pauls adored by millions because despite human frailties, possibly brought about by a tougher than average start in life, he played the game absolutely beautifully.

He also tried to commit suicide with his infant son in the room with him.

He is a sad, sad man whose addiction has destroyed lives. He has a lot to answer for and should not be worshipped by anyone.

[saunders_heroes]

Clough was just rude. I'm not sure that's something that we should all be jumping on here to applaud. Too much football? Back then more than any time since, top level football was surely, first and foremost, a profession for the coaching staff and everyone else at the club. Was Clough hoping to be paid for doing nothing? He points out the gap between seasons being too small. He obviously should have been a teacher in the Irish school system, where kids and staff get three months of holidays in the summer.

No doubt he worked hard, perhaps harder than Motty. But I'll take 'dogmatic, overbearing, boring... lecturing' Motson any day of the week, thanks.

Good look to you then.

I won't miss 'Motty' stumbling for the name of the Villa players as they rip apart his beloved Spurs, or his arselicking knowledge of all the big name players within a 20 mile radius of Shepards Bush.

Give me a man who achieved the unthinkable, with two no-mark clubs, and took tremendous delight in sticking it up the concieted, cynical, self important mobs of Leeds, Man Yoo, and Liverpool.

And commentated on our most glorius night in Rotterdam as though he was one of us. Respect.

And just to add, if we're going to throw a drink problem and self centredness at him then the same applies to God.

You're begrudging the man for supporting a team? I wonder how impartial you'd be if you were a professional commentator and you were covering Villa. Probably less so than Motson.

And on the subject of McGrath, I never mentioned him, but am in full agreement with you. It's madness to have people worshipping him. A wonderful player, but that's about it. A sad sad man who by no means should be idolized and should, in fact, just be left alone.

A sad, sad man? Thats pretty insulting.

For what it's worth, Pauls adored by millions because despite human frailties, possibly brought about by a tougher than average start in life, he played the game absolutely beautifully.

He also tried to commit suicide with his infant son in the room with him.

He is a sad, sad man whose addiction has destroyed lives. He has a lot to answer for and should not be worshipped by anyone.

I'll worship who I like, thanks very much. McGrath was the finest player I ever saw in a Villa shirt, and I've been watching since the late 1970's. Yes he's had problems, but a 'sad sad man'? I don't think so, and I don't think he's destroyed anyone's life either. A bit melodramatic there I think.

[dave.woodhall]

I've always been uneasy with the worship/God stuff around Paul McGrath. He was a footballer, a great one without doubt, but still only a footballer. There are many more deserving cases for hero worship but as we all know, football and footballers are treated far too seriously. And that's without going into the ins and outs of his personal life.

Brian Clough was a great manager. I don't know what he was like as a man but I'm not sure I would have liked him all that much. John Motson has been good at his job, and he always seems decent enough.

[Pete3206]

I'll take the "embarrassing" Motson over Pearce and the odious Clive Tyldesley any day.

He's been a great servant to broadcasting.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

He also tried to commit suicide with his infant son in the room with him.

He is a sad, sad man whose addiction has destroyed lives. He has a lot to answer for and should not be worshipped by anyone.

It's called an addiction for that reason, it's something they cannot live without. If you choose to not to eat chocolate, you don't, simple as that. However, when it becomes an addiction, it becomes essential that you get whatever it is your addicted to.

You say he has a lot to answer for. That implies it's all his fault for being addicted to drink and that all he needs to do is just stop. It doesn't work like that.

Do you read the Daily Mail? If not, I think you'd probably enjoy it. They'd also lock up all addicts for being bad, naughty people.