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Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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« Reply #450 on: June 15, 2010, 08:07:07 AM »
Nice one Rafa.

A good bloke underneath the abrasiveness.

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« Reply #451 on: June 15, 2010, 03:13:39 PM »
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Not saying it wasn't a nice gesture, but how is it charity? people die, you move on. If there's another reason for it being a charity then I do opologise.


Whilst it's a fantastic gesture from Benitez, this is a good question.  
What does the group do?  What are they fighting for?  I read a quote from the Group and they said the money was needed to run offices and such.

Are they still in dispute with the police?  Seeking justice?

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« Reply #452 on: June 15, 2010, 03:26:06 PM »
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Quote from: "junxs"
Not saying it wasn't a nice gesture, but how is it charity? people die, you move on. If there's another reason for it being a charity then I do opologise.


Whilst it's a fantastic gesture from Benitez, this is a good question.  
What does the group do?  What are they fighting for?  I read a quote from the Group and they said the money was needed to run offices and such.

Are they still in dispute with the police?  Seeking justice?


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To pursue Justice for those 96 people who died in the Hillsborough Stadium Disaster of 1989, the bereaved Families, the Survivors who came perilously close to dying in Pens 3 and 4 and those unfortunate people still suffering from the ensuing trauma of the Disaster.

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« Reply #453 on: June 15, 2010, 04:43:56 PM »
Fair play to any man who gives to charity, but had'nt he just shafted the club for £2m, then get a job the next day.


  Ryan Giggs/Niall Quinn, who donated ALL their testimonial monies to charity, thats the kind of people i respect more.

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« Reply #454 on: June 15, 2010, 04:48:01 PM »
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  Ryan Giggs/Niall Quinn, who donated ALL their testimonial monies to charity, thats the kind of people i respect more.


The money that had been given them.

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« Reply #455 on: June 15, 2010, 04:51:15 PM »
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Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"



  Ryan Giggs/Niall Quinn, who donated ALL their testimonial monies to charity, thats the kind of people i respect more.


The money that had been given them.


It's still a very good gesture by them to do it.

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« Reply #456 on: June 15, 2010, 04:55:05 PM »
And the difference is?


   I think it was Ryan Giggs who gave all his money from OK/Hello magazine to charity as well.

  Benitez knew he was going to Inter, negotiated a £2m pay off, and then donated £96'000.RG and NQ, had a testimonial, of which 99% of other players keep the proceeds, and donated ALL to charity.

  Now Ryan Giggs and Niall Quinn could have quite easily kept that money, whether or not modern players need a testimonial is another question, and that for me is very admirable, not sure Benitez' contribution is so generous tbh.

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« Reply #457 on: June 15, 2010, 04:58:01 PM »
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And the difference is?


   I think it was Ryan Giggs who gave all his money from OK/Hello magazine to charity as well.

  Benitez knew he was going to Inter, negotiated a £2m pay off, and then donated £96'000.RG and NQ, had a testimonial, of which 99% of other players keep the proceeds, and donated ALL to charity.

  Now Ryan Giggs and Niall Quinn could have quite easily kept that money, whether or not modern players need a testimonial is another question, and that for me is very admirable, not sure Benitez' contribution is so generous tbh.


Probably not a great deal, although you could argue Benitez was getting the money anyway whereas the testimonials wouldn't have been so well-supported otherwise. But to make out that Niall Quinn was some sort of saint for giving other peoples' money away struck me as odd at the time and still does.

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« Reply #458 on: June 15, 2010, 05:14:25 PM »
Call me a cynic if you like, but i get the impression that Benitez contribution was more to pacify the Lplop fans, and have a dig at the owners, whereas Giggs, and Quinns', regardless of how it was received, was more of a socially aware contribution.

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« Reply #459 on: June 15, 2010, 05:26:54 PM »
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Call me a cynic if you like, but i get the impression that Benitez contribution was more to pacify the Liverpool fans, and have a dig at the owners, whereas Giggs, and Quinns', regardless of how it was received, was more of a socially aware contribution.


Cynic.

Call me gullible if you like but I saw Benitez's contribution as a generous gesture to a group of people that he had probably got to know quite well due to their regular contact with the club and that he probably felt a lot of empathy with.

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« Reply #460 on: June 15, 2010, 05:44:58 PM »
Well if thats the case, if that was me, i would have told LFC to make a contribution to the fund, and waivered my compensation.

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« Reply #461 on: June 15, 2010, 08:13:10 PM »
Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"
Call me a cynic if you like, but i get the impression that Benitez contribution was more to pacify the Liverpool fans, and have a dig at the owners, whereas Giggs, and Quinns', regardless of how it was received, was more of a socially aware contribution.


Not so.
Rafa expressley asked them to keep schtum about the donation, but the Justice people were determined that everybody should know about his gesture.

He's gone way up in my estimation.

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« Reply #462 on: June 15, 2010, 08:33:27 PM »
If thats the case then fair enough.....a good decent gesture, and like you he has gone up in my estimation.

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« Reply #463 on: June 16, 2010, 12:05:34 AM »
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Quote from: "barrysleftfoot"
Call me a cynic if you like, but i get the impression that Benitez contribution was more to pacify the Liverpool fans, and have a dig at the owners, whereas Giggs, and Quinns', regardless of how it was received, was more of a socially aware contribution.


Not so.
Rafa expressley asked them to keep schtum about the donation, but the Justice people were determined that everybody should know about his gesture.

He's gone way up in my estimation.


He has always had a close bond with the fans there so I am not at all surprised by this gesture.  Fair play to him.

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« Reply #464 on: June 16, 2010, 10:19:20 AM »
Nice gesture, but my opinion of him is still that he is just a fat spanish waiter and was taking Liverfool in the right direction.

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