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Offline old man villa fan

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« Reply #3675 on: August 03, 2010, 12:02:04 AM »
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If he stays and we sell him next year, even if he only has 1 year left on his contract, there will be more than Man City that will want him and assuming he has a reasonable season his value will not drop below £20m.  There is still the January window as well.


Do you know what, I was thinking about just that earlier today, and I'm not 100 percent convinced.

Maybe it is some kind of subconscious re-evaluation now it looks like he wants out, but he's had one very good season thus far, that's not really conclusive evidence of his quality.

I have to say, though, that I don't think anyone, even Man City, would pay 20m for a player with one year left on his contract.

If we're about getting as much money as we can for him, this is the time to sell him. I would say that if we were keen on keeping him, then we should turn them down, but it appears he's made it quite clear he wants out now, so i suspect there is no way back.


If there is only one club in the market, yes, £20m is more than can be expected but if, say, Chelsea or somebody else is interested and at £20m they will be, provided he has a half decent season, then I can see us not losing too much in waiting.

Twelve months on he could be a permanent fixture in the England team or there again, maybe not.  It only takes two clubs to be interested and the price rockets, one of them does not have to be too serious either.  Also, we get a season out of a very good player.

Saying that, if an offer close to £25m or equivalent including player(s) (at reasonable valuation) is made I would take it.

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« Reply #3676 on: August 03, 2010, 01:33:57 AM »
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There is some ITK stuff floating about saying that the deal will be £19m + Ireland. Would be over the moon with that to be honest.


If that's even close to being true, I can't see anyone thinking this is a bad deal. In fact, I'd say (provided Ireland can keep his brain in his head), that it's the deal of the century. I'd have carefully considered a straight swap (yes, Milner is the harder working but he can't unlock a defence like Ireland can) but to have that kind of wedge thrown in is lovely.

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« Reply #3677 on: August 03, 2010, 01:41:51 AM »
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There is some ITK stuff floating about saying that the deal will be £19m + Ireland. Would be over the moon with that to be honest.


If that's even close to being true, I can't see anyone thinking this is a bad deal. In fact, I'd say (provided Ireland can keep his brain in his head), that it's the deal of the century. I'd have carefully considered a straight swap (yes, Milner is the harder working but he can't unlock a defence like Ireland can) but to have that kind of wedge thrown in is lovely.


If you value Ireland at £6-7m, that's a very fair deal.  To save face, you could value him at £10m and hey presto almost the £30m.

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« Reply #3678 on: August 03, 2010, 01:50:38 AM »
What would Ireland be worth with two years on his contract like Milner has?

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« Reply #3679 on: August 03, 2010, 03:57:50 AM »
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What would Ireland be worth with two years on his contract like Milner has?


This time last year, if Ireland had just finished the season he'd had with anyone else other than ManCiteh (arguably better than Milner last season) they, City, would be offering the same silly money for him that they're offering us right now for Milner. Expect Milner to be pawned off for whoever flavour of the month is next summer.

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« Reply #3680 on: August 03, 2010, 04:28:30 AM »
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There is some ITK stuff floating about saying that the deal will be £19m + Ireland. Would be over the moon with that to be honest.


If my name was Martin O'Neill - DEAL.

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« Reply #3681 on: August 03, 2010, 07:22:24 AM »
If we get 19 million and Ireland for Jimmy, and then get Keane too, we will be much much more creative that we were last season as neither stick to set positions.


19 million and Ireland though? They would never give us that much surely?

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« Reply #3682 on: August 03, 2010, 07:35:55 AM »
i think ireland will be valued a lot less when the 25 man squad is named and he isnt in it! Another season on his contract gone and no football out of him plus paying him his whatever stupid money every week!

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« Reply #3683 on: August 03, 2010, 07:51:01 AM »
If we get anything like £20m + Ireland I'm going to try and sell them these six magic beans too.
I also have a job lot of Tartan paint.

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« Reply #3684 on: August 03, 2010, 08:30:45 AM »
What happens if late on deadline day they offer 30 million for Milner then there would be no time to any deals to bring in players

This is what happened at Spurs when they sold berbatov to Utd

Personally I think the game is up sell him for the best price we can and move on!!

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« Reply #3685 on: August 03, 2010, 08:56:37 AM »
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If you value Ireland at £6-7m, that's a very fair deal.  To save face, you could value him at £10m and hey presto almost the £30m.


In the current market I think Ireland should be valued at around £10m.  Given that the richest club in the world are trying to off load him because of new squad rules, it's hard to judge how that would effect things, but if we were buying him from anyone else I'd be expecting to pay around £10m.

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« Reply #3686 on: August 03, 2010, 09:14:25 AM »
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What would Ireland be worth with two years on his contract like Milner has?


Whatever anyone was willing to pay. If he, and we, do well then it'd be worth another £20m or so from Man City.

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« Reply #3687 on: August 03, 2010, 09:25:40 AM »
Glad everyones happy we're losing our best player again.

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« Reply #3688 on: August 03, 2010, 09:29:17 AM »
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Glad everyones happy we're losing our best player again.


If he no longer wants to play for us, then yes, i'm happy for him to go.

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« Reply #3689 on: August 03, 2010, 09:38:13 AM »
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Glad everyones happy we're losing our best player again.


If he no longer wants to play for us, then yes, i'm happy for him to go.


Yes, me too. I am already finding myself feeling pretty ambivalent towards him, much as I did towards Barry in his 'extra' season with us. However, my judgement is probably clouded by thinking Milner is very much over-rated. Are Hansen and Shearer still drooling over his 'awesome' cross against Algeria I wonder?

 


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