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« Reply #3195 on: July 26, 2010, 10:14:02 PM »
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Toure is surely ahead of Lescott, surely? Granted, Toure wasn't magical, but I thought Lescott last year put in one of the worst seasons by a supposed top-class centre-back I've ever witnessed. In the early part of the season in particular it was like watching a series of car crashes.

I would have thought so too (Touré being captain as well), just going on what City fans I've spoken to are expecting to see.

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« Reply #3196 on: July 26, 2010, 10:14:19 PM »
This may have been covered but i dont think even if we get 28 million for jimmy we will be able to go and buy ireland and co
I am reading it that the wage bill needs to be reduced with too many fringe players on 40 to 50 grand a week. if you look at what we are paying shorey, beye L young, davis , reo coke r sidwell heskey probably collectively over £300,000 per week thats 15 million a year and over 30 million with what what we they left on their contracts. So bang goes the milner money and we would have only have saved his wages which is probably only 2 million left on it . We have Man Citehs problem on a lot smaller scale nobody wants to buy our fringe boys because of
the huge wages we had to entice them with to build a squad well thats my thoughts for what its worth :-({|=

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« Reply #3197 on: July 26, 2010, 10:15:22 PM »
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Quote from: "Monty"
Toure is surely ahead of Lescott, surely? Granted, Toure wasn't magical, but I thought Lescott last year put in one of the worst seasons by a supposed top-class centre-back I've ever witnessed. In the early part of the season in particular it was like watching a series of car crashes.


I would have thought so too (Touré being captain as well), just going on what City fans I've spoken to are expecting to see.


That's odd. Any reason they think this?

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« Reply #3198 on: July 26, 2010, 10:23:36 PM »
Toure has to start ahead of Lescott....I think he is a much better player (than Lescott), he is captain and he has just helped entice his brother to sign so if Kolo doesnt play thats 2 (more) unhappy players

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« Reply #3199 on: July 26, 2010, 10:32:45 PM »
if we get an offer of around £24 million then i think that will be enough!!

i do worry though about our prospects this season, the build up to this season reminds me of the last season under DOL and Ellis - free transfers and the club just waiting to be relegated, not that i expect us to be relegated

but if we do have a poor season then you can guarantee that in january or next summer we could be having the same discussion about Ashley Young as we have been having this summer about Milner.

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« Reply #3200 on: July 26, 2010, 10:35:58 PM »
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build up to this season reminds me of the last season under DOL and Ellis - free transfers and the club just waiting to be relegated, not that i expect us to be relegated.


You cannot seriously mean to have written this utter cack?

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« Reply #3201 on: July 26, 2010, 11:04:20 PM »
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build up to this season reminds me of the last season under DOL and Ellis - free transfers and the club just waiting to be relegated, not that i expect us to be relegated.


You cannot seriously mean to have written this utter cack?


Tottally agree, if we sell Milner we should improve as a team  with the mo ey brought in.

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« Reply #3203 on: July 26, 2010, 11:17:52 PM »
Got a strange feeling, Milner will stay. But thr real question is will he sign a new contract. (i know the papers are saying he wont) cant believe a possible 27-30m player would be allowed to play in a cup competion ???

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Re: selling milner wont mean we will spend
« Reply #3204 on: July 26, 2010, 11:25:14 PM »
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This may have been covered but i dont think even if we get 28 million for jimmy we will be able to go and buy ireland and co
I am reading it that the wage bill needs to be reduced with too many fringe players on 40 to 50 grand a week. if you look at what we are paying shorey, beye L young, davis , reo coke r sidwell heskey probably collectively over £300,000 per week thats 15 million a year and over 30 million with what what we they left on their contracts. So bang goes the milner money and we would have only have saved his wages which is probably only 2 million left on it . We have Man Citehs problem on a lot smaller scale nobody wants to buy our fringe boys because of
the huge wages we had to entice them with to build a squad well thats my thoughts for what its worth :-({|=
Great post mate and will probably be  ignored whilst others who do the simple 2+2 = 5 arithmatic in terms of if we sell Milner we get Ireland Onoha bla bla bla but forgeting the fact that our manager has thrown big money away on transfers and wages on non performing players.
One simple calculation is the profit we make on Milner will cover the fee we paid for Downing- great business! I rest my case

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« Reply #3205 on: July 26, 2010, 11:25:20 PM »
Why are we always on the back foot in the transfer market? We sulk and protest when one of players wants to go, then end up dragging things out 2 months, negative stories in the press all the time, sell him anyway and have no time to replace them properly.

It does my head right in.

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« Reply #3206 on: July 26, 2010, 11:27:34 PM »
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Quote from: "hollybobble"
This may have been covered but i dont think even if we get 28 million for jimmy we will be able to go and buy ireland and co
I am reading it that the wage bill needs to be reduced with too many fringe players on 40 to 50 grand a week. if you look at what we are paying shorey, beye L young, davis , reo coke r sidwell heskey probably collectively over £300,000 per week thats 15 million a year and over 30 million with what what we they left on their contracts. So bang goes the milner money and we would have only have saved his wages which is probably only 2 million left on it . We have Man Citehs problem on a lot smaller scale nobody wants to buy our fringe boys because of
the huge wages we had to entice them with to build a squad well thats my thoughts for what its worth :-({|=
Great post mate and will probably be  ignored whilst others who do the simple 2+2 = 5 arithmatic in terms of if we sell Milner we get Ireland Onoha bla bla bla but forgeting the fact that our manager has thrown big money away on transfers and wages on non performing players.
One simple calculation is the profit we make on Milner will cover the fee we paid for Downing- great business! I rest my case


Ah, but just you wait for Downing to have a full pre-seaszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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« Reply #3207 on: July 26, 2010, 11:35:52 PM »
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Why are we always on the back foot in the transfer market? We sulk and protest when one of players wants to go, then end up dragging things out 2 months, negative stories in the press all the time, sell him anyway and have no time to replace them properly.

It does my head right in.

Its testament to where we have progressed to.

Before Randy took over,there was never any worries about our stars being snapped up by top 6 clubs-we are knocking on the door,loosing players goes with the territory-Milner had a good 6 months,thats all.

I don't see us on the back foot over this at all-We are not Portsmouth

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Re: selling milner wont mean we will spend
« Reply #3208 on: July 26, 2010, 11:37:51 PM »
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Quote from: "hollybobble"
This may have been covered but i dont think even if we get 28 million for jimmy we will be able to go and buy ireland and co
I am reading it that the wage bill needs to be reduced with too many fringe players on 40 to 50 grand a week. if you look at what we are paying shorey, beye L young, davis , reo coke r sidwell heskey probably collectively over £300,000 per week thats 15 million a year and over 30 million with what what we they left on their contracts. So bang goes the milner money and we would have only have saved his wages which is probably only 2 million left on it . We have Man Citehs problem on a lot smaller scale nobody wants to buy our fringe boys because of
the huge wages we had to entice them with to build a squad well thats my thoughts for what its worth :-({|=
Great post mate and will probably be  ignored whilst others who do the simple 2+2 = 5 arithmatic in terms of if we sell Milner we get Ireland Onoha bla bla bla but forgeting the fact that our manager has thrown big money away on transfers and wages on non performing players.
One simple calculation is the profit we make on Milner will cover the fee we paid for Downing- great business! I rest my case


We do also have the shirt sponsorship money this year that we never had last year.

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« Reply #3209 on: July 26, 2010, 11:39:40 PM »
I know, better to accept less money straight away surely...

As for The money coming in covering the wages of x,y,z it doesn't work like that.

The sell to buy comment that all the papers are using to say we're skint was related to the fact that our wages are far too high a % of our turnover and the club want to run on a more stable footing so the wage bill need to stay the same or go down.  This has absolutely no bearing on the transfer fees and numerous sources at the club have confirmed it.

Now as the whole thing is a percentage based thing the extra 10m (ish) from fx pro means this has already been achieved to an extent as that sees a 10-15% increase in our turnover.  With Harewood, Bouma already off the wage bill we've already made a big cut as well so once Milner is sold there's going to be 100k-ish of weekly wages available and 25-30m to go towards the transfer fees before Randy has to dip into his pocket.

If we can then get rid of the likes of Beye, Heskey, Sidwell and Shorey who everyone on here would be happy to see the back of (except possibly Beye who we've barely seen the front of) that's be 150k more which would be more than enough to play with for us to sign whoever we need, particularly if we go for younger players.

 


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