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Offline phantom limb

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« Reply #2595 on: July 22, 2010, 03:26:44 PM »
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And If it is the wages how much are the likes of Keane, Ireland, Flamini and McGeady going to want?

We won't end up reducing the wage bill, probably end up raising it.


 I wouldn’t imagine a great deal more, if at all, than what some of the deadwood are on now.


I'm sure that Flamini is on very high wages at Milan, possibly more than 100 grand a week. Keane is trousering £50-£60k a week, but I'm not sure about the other two.

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« Reply #2596 on: July 22, 2010, 03:27:11 PM »
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And If it is the wages how much are the likes of Keane, Ireland, Flamini and McGeady going to want?

We won't end up reducing the wage bill, probably end up raising it.


 I wouldn’t imagine a great deal more, if at all, than what some of the deadwood are on now.


I'm not so sure. Keane would probably want approx £50k pw, Ireland is on £80k now so he would probably take £60k, Flamini is on high wages at Milan as he went on a bosman so probably £50k ish. McGeady would probably be on £25-30k pw.

Keane, Ireland & Flamini would easily be along with Young our top earners.


 But when you’ve got four or five players who don’t feature who are on 40 to 60 grand, you’ll see that you’re probably looking at parity anyway.

Offline Irreverent ad

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« Reply #2597 on: July 22, 2010, 03:31:36 PM »
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But when you’ve got four or five players who don’t feature who are on 40 to 60 grand, you’ll see that you’re probably looking at parity anyway


Are they on that much?

My Guess would be

Shorey £25k? Beye £40k? Young £30k? NRC £35k? Sidwell £35k

I don't know but I wouldn't have thought they are on similar to the others.

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« Reply #2598 on: July 22, 2010, 03:32:16 PM »
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I interpret as O’Neill having to clear the decks of the players who don’t feature but are on incredibly good wages.


I'd understand this argument better if our wage bill was above average for the top 8 teams in the PL but it isn't, it is way below average for the teams attempting to win trophies and compete for top 4 places.

What kind of wages do you think we'll have to pay for the new squad members who aren't in the 1st 11?


I think you're looking at it the wrong way.

Beye, Shorey, Sidwell - is that wages money well "allocated" (in the sense that it's a finite commodity)?

I'd also be interested to see those wage bill figures.

Firstly, the traditional top four have world class players, so you'd expect them to have higher wage bills.

We know for a fact ours is higher than Spurs' wage bill. So that leaves Man City, who have a higher wage bill than anyone.

So, I'd guess

Man City
Chelsea
Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
Villa
Spurs
Everton.

Looked at that way, it doesn't actually mean much, does it?

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« Reply #2599 on: July 22, 2010, 03:33:42 PM »
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But when you’ve got four or five players who don’t feature who are on 40 to 60 grand, you’ll see that you’re probably looking at parity anyway


Are they on that much?

My Guess would be

Shorey £25k? Beye £40k? Young £30k? NRC £35k? Sidwell £35k

I don't know but I wouldn't have thought they are on similar to the others.


I'd guess again if I were you or donate to the site perhpas? ;)

Offline PaulTheVillan

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« Reply #2600 on: July 22, 2010, 03:37:05 PM »
Someone at the club needs fucking shooting if they are paying those players as much as stated.

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« Reply #2601 on: July 22, 2010, 03:40:36 PM »
Quote from: "Ads"
Quote from: "irreverent ad"
Quote
But when you’ve got four or five players who don’t feature who are on 40 to 60 grand, you’ll see that you’re probably looking at parity anyway


Are they on that much?

My Guess would be

Shorey £25k? Beye £40k? Young £30k? NRC £35k? Sidwell £35k

I don't know but I wouldn't have thought they are on similar to the others.


I'd guess again if I were you or donate to the site perhpas? ;)


Really? What are they on. The only one i am not so sure on is Sidwell.

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« Reply #2602 on: July 22, 2010, 03:51:26 PM »
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "Villadawg"
Quote from: "Ads"

I interpret as O’Neill having to clear the decks of the players who don’t feature but are on incredibly good wages.


I'd understand this argument better if our wage bill was above average for the top 8 teams in the PL but it isn't, it is way below average for the teams attempting to win trophies and compete for top 4 places.

What kind of wages do you think we'll have to pay for the new squad members who aren't in the 1st 11?


I think you're looking at it the wrong way.

Beye, Shorey, Sidwell - is that wages money well "allocated" (in the sense that it's a finite commodity)?

I'd also be interested to see those wage bill figures.

Firstly, the traditional top four have world class players, so you'd expect them to have higher wage bills.

We know for a fact ours is higher than Spurs' wage bill. So that leaves Man City, who have a higher wage bill than anyone.

So, I'd guess

Man City
Chelsea
Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
Man City
Villa
Spurs
Everton.

Looked at that way, it doesn't actually mean much, does it?


Man City are on that list twice.

Offline Dave Cooper please

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« Reply #2603 on: July 22, 2010, 03:53:01 PM »
Fuck me. Milner has gone from "Awesome player who is not going anywhere and will not move just for the cash."

to

"Utter ******, not that good anyway, hope he rots in the reserves."

In the time it's taken me to drink two pints!

When really he's just another decent professional footballer looking to do better for himself. Some of us predicted this and were shot down, ho-hum.

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« Reply #2604 on: July 22, 2010, 03:53:13 PM »
Not any more they're not.

*wink*

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« Reply #2605 on: July 22, 2010, 03:54:23 PM »
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Quote from: "irreverent ad"
And If it is the wages how much are the likes of Keane, Ireland, Flamini and McGeady going to want?

We won't end up reducing the wage bill, probably end up raising it.


 I wouldn’t imagine a great deal more, if at all, than what some of the deadwood are on now.


I'm not so sure. Keane would probably want approx £50k pw, Ireland is on £80k now so he would probably take £60k, Flamini is on high wages at Milan as he went on a bosman so probably £50k ish. McGeady would probably be on £25-30k pw.

Keane, Ireland & Flamini would easily be along with Young our top earners.


So we have a player who is desperate to leave his club and two players who are keen to leave their clubs due to a lack of first team football.

Surely it's a question of saying 'We can give you first team football if you accept a pay cut'? Who on earth will pay Ireland £80K a week? If he wants to leave Money City and by all accounts he does then he'll have to accept less unless a really big club comes in and by all accounts they won't.

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« Reply #2606 on: July 22, 2010, 03:54:45 PM »
We're not fickle you know....

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« Reply #2607 on: July 22, 2010, 03:55:57 PM »
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Not any more they're not.

*wink*


Villa up to 6th !!

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« Reply #2608 on: July 22, 2010, 03:56:48 PM »
Villa fans in "angry and disappointed one of their best players is just another greedy twat" shocker.

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« Reply #2609 on: July 22, 2010, 03:57:18 PM »
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Quote from: "irreverent ad"
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But when you’ve got four or five players who don’t feature who are on 40 to 60 grand, you’ll see that you’re probably looking at parity anyway


Are they on that much?

My Guess would be

Shorey £25k? Beye £40k? Young £30k? NRC £35k? Sidwell £35k

I don't know but I wouldn't have thought they are on similar to the others.


I'd guess again if I were you or donate to the site perhpas? ;)


Really? What are they on. The only one i am not so sure on is Sidwell.


You're not sure on any of them ;)

 


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