The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[pauliewalnuts]

Regardless of whether we want him or not, I wonder what the likelihood would be of us being offered a certain, known-in-this-parish Elite Squad bound midfielder as part of this deal?

He's surely not going to get that much pitch time with their squad, is he?

In fact, to be quite honest, neither would Milner, I'd have thought. I'm sure they're after him mainly just so they can flash their financial big balls at the rest of the league, the horrible, nouveau scrotes.

[Mazrim]

If you mean Barry, absolutely zero likelihood.

[BannedUserIAT]

I dunno. MoN has gone back for former players. I think the odds are low considering what happened but we don't know how it was left on Barry's last day.

[Concrete John]

I dunno. MoN has gone back for former players. I think the odds are low considering what happened but we don't know how it was left on Barry's last day.

That's a sensible and balanced view.

And I still think there's more chance of me signing for Villa this summer than Gareth Barry.

[Surrey Villain]

Interesting that Petrov doesn't include Milner in the list of Villa players he expects to face when Bulgaria come to Wembley in September.

[stevenjos]

Wouldnt it be nice to get this sorted!

To me this is the ultimate acid test of martins ambition. He's proven he's sh*t at getting the contract sorted (which is amazing considering he rarely goes to the training sessions) and this has come back to bite him.

If we sell him then we are a selling club destined to rot in the same position year after year as players just begin to peak we get rid and bring in probably more centrebacks (as martin likes collecting them).

[Concrete John]

Wouldnt it be nice to get this sorted!

To me this is the ultimate acid test of martins ambition. He's proven he's sh*t at getting the contract sorted (which is amazing considering he rarely goes to the training sessions) and this has come back to bite him.

If we sell him then we are a selling club destined to rot in the same position year after year as players just begin to peak we get rid and bring in probably more centrebacks (as martin likes collecting them).

Potentially the most bizarre post I've ever read on H&V.

[MoetVillan]

Well, I like the first line, it would be nice to sort it either way.  However, im not that fussed about the decision being "nice", just whats best for us long term.  As for the rest of the post, it is bizarre, yes.  No idea what the man is getting at

[stevenjos]

Well, I like the first line, it would be nice to sort it either way.  However, im not that fussed about the decision being "nice", just whats best for us long term.  As for the rest of the post, it is bizarre, yes.  No idea what the man is getting at

I was just saying Martin could of started contract negotiations months ago, stopping this whole mess before it happened. Now we're going to probably sell him and prove we have the ambition of middle of the road club again.

but anyway. "martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, martin o'neill, "

[Concrete John]

Of course.  Re-negotiating with a player less than two years into a four year deal is the way forward.  If only you had told Martin this around Christmas, when you obviously thought of it yourself, we'd be in a much better position.

MON out!

[eastie]

If a player wants to go then sometimes it's for the best- even utd had to let ronaldo go, and they are no middle of the road club.

Aston villa  have and will survive again the loss of far better than milner- we move on as a club.

[stevenjos]

Of course.  Re-negotiating with a player less than two years into a four year deal is the way forward.  If only you had told Martin this around Christmas, when you obviously thought of it yourself, we'd be in a much better position.

MON out!

"oh look our best player this year has 2 years left on his contract, shall i offer him a new one to secure his long term future with an ambitious club orrrrrrr shall i leave it until man city come and bully us into selling?"

"hmmmmm"

"selling! and then i can buy a centreback to play at left back!"


And if we are thinking of it as 1/2 way through his contract why dont we grow a pair and just tell everyone we are not selling full stop.... nah.... lets be a selling club!

As i said this to me is the moment we find out how much martin wants to compete, if he thinks he can replace Milner with that money then we are in trouble, as we've all seen the premier league (the only place he will buy from) and know that we have one of those people who could be Massive on our hands.

If Milner puts in a transfer request then we have no choice but until he does why cant MON be as stubborn as he is with his dull tactics?

[damon loves JT]

I've only worn that bastard t-shirt once, and all

[Concrete John]

Of course.  Re-negotiating with a player less than two years into a four year deal is the way forward.  If only you had told Martin this around Christmas, when you obviously thought of it yourself, we'd be in a much better position.

MON out!

"oh look our best player this year has 2 years left on his contract, shall i offer him a new one to secure his long term future with an ambitious club orrrrrrr shall i leave it until man city come and bully us into selling?"

"hmmmmm"

"selling! and then i can buy a centreback to play at left back!"


And if we are thinking of it as 1/2 way through his contract why dont we grow a pair and just tell everyone we are not selling full stop.... nah.... lets be a selling club!

As i said this to me is the moment we find out how much martin wants to compete, if he thinks he can replace Milner with that money then we are in trouble, as we've all seen the premier league (the only place he will buy from) and know that we have one of those people who could be Massive on our hands.

If Milner puts in a transfer request then we have no choice but until he does why cant MON be as stubborn as he is with his dull tactics?

Uhm, we turned down the £20m Man City offered and haven't been hawking him round looking to sell.  And the whole thing of how 'much we want to compete' being judged on selling/not selling Milner is more to do with the whole club, and by that I mean Randy and the board, than it does with the manager.  As soon as the season finished he was off with England and still isn't back yet, so when exactly should we have talked about this new contract before City bid, which was late May/early June from memory?  And before you answer that, remember he only became our best player in Jan when moved inside, so didn't really warrant a new contract until say March after he had done so well there for a while.

[stevenjos]

Uhm, we turned down the £20m Man City offered and haven't been hawking him round looking to sell.

no from the "sources" its a done deal, he's appearing on no promotional material and everyone is very very quiet about what is happening. no one else can afford the "price" on his head except the richboys of the bluecamp. A big "hes not for sale" would stop all of this.

And the whole thing of how 'much we want to compete' being judged on selling/not selling Milner is more to do with the whole club, and by that I mean Randy and the board, than it does with the manager.

Randy and the board have given martin money only dreamt of under Ellis, they have made the ground lovely again and have been legends. Its Martins tactical ineptness and stuttering in the transfer market that i see as how much we want to compete. any manager who is willing to get rid of there best player isnt competing, they are selling. (see ferguson not winning the league)

As soon as the season finished he was off with England and still isn't back yet, so when exactly should we have talked about this new contract before City bid, which was late May/early June from memory?

The season finished and what came out was "no worries we'll sort it after the world cup". That was a great bit of planning wasnt it! now lets look at mindsets

a) ive just signed a new contract and been told im the centrepiece of this teams future, no way im moving away

b) you know what they'll offer me twice as much as the current lot will and Villa arent in a rush to keep me.

And before you answer that, remember he only became our best player in Jan when moved inside, so didn't really warrant a new contract until say March after he had done so well there for a while.

Id say hes been our best player all season by a mile and one of the few who can get better. but its ok, we can get scott parker in! YAY