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Offline Mazrim

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« Reply #1800 on: June 29, 2010, 03:30:28 PM »
Kallstrom. For nothing.

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« Reply #1801 on: June 29, 2010, 03:30:36 PM »
That's all well and good if he's on a long contract but he's not and the price would drop hugely in a year when we would probably have to sell anyway- I've seen all this before and if a player wants to go there is no point trying to hold onto him, it would only cause problems behind the scenes with team spirit.

I'd try and push for £28m but if we can't get it then I'd take the £25m and move on.

Anyone know when we are back in training?

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« Reply #1802 on: June 29, 2010, 04:02:59 PM »
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Kallstrom. For nothing.


A couple of years ago maybe but not now, too slow.

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« Reply #1803 on: June 29, 2010, 04:07:20 PM »
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Quote from: "Mazrim"
Kallstrom. For nothing.


A couple of years ago maybe but not now, too slow.


No he isnt and he doesn't rely on out and out pace anyway. He's clever,  has a great range of passing and is strong and hardworking. Just what we need to replace Sidwell, say.
Plus he's FREE! No brainer.

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« Reply #1804 on: June 29, 2010, 04:19:49 PM »
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Quote from: "peter w"
Quote from: "Mazrim"
Kallstrom. For nothing.


A couple of years ago maybe but not now, too slow.


No he isnt and he doesn't rely on out and out pace anyway. He's clever,  has a great range of passing and is strong and hardworking. Just what we need to replace Sidwell, say.
Plus he's FREE! No brainer.


Free? How much do you think he'll want in wages? And as for pace its all important in the Prem, if not all of professional British football. Not for us, thanks.

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« Reply #1805 on: June 29, 2010, 04:29:43 PM »
no such thing as a free lunch.

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« Reply #1806 on: June 29, 2010, 04:31:03 PM »
They don't pay bajillions in the French league you know.

We're already paying Shitwell and Shorey at least £40K per week so Kallstrom would probably make less than them. Even then he might accept a lower wage from us to try his luck at a big premier league side.

As for pace? Well Gareth Barry is considerably slower than I am and he gets into the national side.

Seems like the type of player Everton would sign to me.

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« Reply #1807 on: June 29, 2010, 04:42:54 PM »
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They don't pay bajillions in the French league you know.

We're already paying Shitwell and Shorey at least £40K per week so Kallstrom would probably make less than them. Even then he might accept a lower wage from us to try his luck at a big premier league side.

As for pace? Well Gareth Barry is considerably slower than I am and he gets into the national side.

Seems like the type of player Everton would sign to me.


Lyon can afford half decent wages but accepeted that he's unlikely to be on silly money.

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« Reply #1808 on: June 29, 2010, 05:18:07 PM »
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30m or he's staying

And that'll all be very nice and what not, But who are we going to buy of a similar class to replace him in the heart of our side ?

I've heard all the claims there are tons of players. But very few names

Who?

And don't say Ireland!. He's nothing like Milner in style so we'd need a Milner alongside him too


With respect, It's a redundant argument.

When Barry departed last year we didn't replace with a player 'like Barry.'
I'd say that's probably the case for a lot of clubs too.

If Milner does depart, it would present us with the opportunity to sign a player (or two) to reshape the midfield and give it a better balance. Maz mentioned Kallstrom, there is also the Danish lad who plays for Wolfsburg (Kahlenberg). They would be more orthodox CM's (though can play wide). Then you have someone like Diame who would be more of a defensive midfielder, or Hleb/Bentley who are better out wide. Finally someone like Ireland who would be better as a link between the midfielders or forwards.

None of those are similar to Milner, but any two of them could offer us more variation and ideas in the middle of the park. Lets be frank, even with Milner on board last campaign we struggled in that dept, particularly at home.

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« Reply #1809 on: June 29, 2010, 05:22:28 PM »
If he is such a good player, and available on a free, why HAVENT Everton signed him?  My comment on the free lunch is, why is it free?  Lyon dont want him anymore as he is costing them money in wages, (ie havent resigned him) Something smells fishier here than Mr Whitebaits Eel shop on the Highstreet in Grimsby last saturday when his refridgeration system broke down.

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« Reply #1810 on: June 29, 2010, 05:53:43 PM »
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Quote from: "Mazrim"
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Quote from: "Mazrim"
Kallstrom. For nothing.


A couple of years ago maybe but not now, too slow.


No he isnt and he doesn't rely on out and out pace anyway. He's clever,  has a great range of passing and is strong and hardworking. Just what we need to replace Sidwell, say.
Plus he's FREE! No brainer.


Free? How much do you think he'll want in wages? And as for pace its all important in the Prem, if not all of professional British football. Not for us, thanks.


Pace isn't all important at all, his technique would enable him a success in the Prem. Pace isn't all important at all. Lampard, Barry, Milner, Kuyt, how many more do we need to name to prove this?

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« Reply #1811 on: June 29, 2010, 06:00:14 PM »
Lampard has only just started slowing up, and I would argue that Milner and Kuyt have pace.  Ok, not Agbonlahor speed, but they can shift skilfully with the ball.  All except Kuyt.  Pace is the first thing a defender fears.  I would be disappointed if we did not look to replace a player like Milner, should he go, with someone who could shift.

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« Reply #1812 on: June 29, 2010, 06:03:21 PM »
I meant to add that Petrov is a player we have that lacks pace, and it is evident week in week out.  He is a good passer, but he cant keep up for over 70mins these days, and players coming at him will continue to be relatively faster as he ages.  As for the argument about Pace not being important, I heard nothing but "Terry is a class centre half as while not quick he makes good decisions"  My answer to that, is where the fucking hell were your good decisions last sunday you twat.

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« Reply #1813 on: June 29, 2010, 06:03:49 PM »
We have players with stacks of pace and it didn;t really get us anywhere in the latter end of the season. For me, what sets Milner apart is his engine and stamina rather than his pace (which is still pretty decent anyway). But his awareness isn't the best and his tackling isn't great either. He's not the complete player and what's being quoted in the media as a decent price is well above what he actually delivers to a side. So take it if its offered.

MON isn;t suddenly going to start playing a revolutionary formation. It's either going to be 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 which suddenly becomes 4-3-3. We won't buy a player to play in the hole so to go in a different direction from what Milner offers would need somone with a similar amount of stamina but more of an eye for a pass. We don't know what Delph will offer when he's returned to fitness so Ireland is good enough for me as a direct replacement.

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« Reply #1814 on: June 29, 2010, 06:16:29 PM »
As long as MON doesnt come out and say " I absolutely think Sidwell can replace young James , I didnt want to lose him but steve Sidwell will be terrific in his position "


Lets hopefully get nearer to £28 million and fook off steve sidwell too..

hieb,Annan  and Sanchez would do for starters.. and that Mexican No. 3 , he was awesome.. well I can dream....

 


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