Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes

[OCD]

With the new ruling coming in re home based players I can say with 99.9% certainty that Walcott won't be moving and certainly not to Villa.

Arsenal barely have any English players as it is. They aren't going to jettison one of the few decent ones they have.

Only way I can see Walcott moving is if the player himself gets pissed off with their rate of progress and angles after a move. But if he does it will be to a club pushing for major honours. Not us, in short.

The rule includes players that have come through the Academy so Arsenal would be ok. Even though the player doesn't need to be English when coming through the Academy route, they do have a growing number of English kids coming through.

[OCD]

I see I was a bit late with that post.

[BedsVillain]

I know it's only the Mirror, but they have us linked to Nedum Onuoha. Would be a very good versatile purchase and great business at £5m

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[SteveN]

I know it's only the Mirror, but they have us linked to Nedum Onuoha. Would be a very good versatile purchase and great business at £5m

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From my limited TV viewing Onuoha looks a good defender but when it comes to distribution then he looks as if he has forgotten to take his boots out of the box.

[Concrete John]

I know it's only the Mirror, but they have us linked to Nedum Onuoha. Would be a very good versatile purchase and great business at £5m

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"The England Under-21 defender only signed a new five year contract at City last summer, but since then he has slipped down the pecking order in his favoured central defensive position.

Onuoha struggled with injuries during the first half of the campaign, but even when he recovered his fitness he was restricted to just 13 appearances in all competitions, and most at full-back"

If that's the case, then he's hardly going to want to come here with our abundance of CBs.

[mattjpa]

and with the fact his surname is neither dunne nor collins....

[Phil from the upper holte]

Personally I really wouldnt want Wallcott, I think he is a one trick pony. Can't cross bad decision making and no real skill, He struggles to go around people which is why he isnt going to South Africa..

Just a personal opinion

[AsTallAsLions]

Personally I really wouldnt want Wallcott, I think he is a one trick pony. Can't cross bad decision making and no real skill, He struggles to go around people which is why he isnt going to South Africa..

Just a personal opinion

Agreed, and would actually take Benayoun ahead of him.

[Concrete John]

Personally I really wouldnt want Wallcott, I think he is a one trick pony. Can't cross bad decision making and no real skill, He struggles to go around people which is why he isnt going to South Africa..

Just a personal opinion

Agreed, and would actually take Benayoun ahead of him.

As a winger, then yes.

But I still think Walcott could turn into a top class striker!

[eastie]

No way arsenal would sell Walcott for less than £20m and no way he would want to come to villa.

Joe cole is another top class player available but again no way he would come here, I'm not sure if it's that we don't pay the wages or they don't deem us as attractive enough to win trophies but we won't attract these kind of players sadly until we win silverware.

[andyh]

If, as reported, we cannot provide the vision to keep players like Milner at the club, what hope do we ever have of attracting players like Walcott and Benayoun.
I think we need to have realistic expectations that big name players from big teams won't want to come.
I fear that the message that Milner jumping ship sends out, will be worse than the actual loss of the player.
However, one question I would like to ask Jimmy, if he goes.....'What exactly was it that attracted you to billionaire club, Manchester City ?'

[Concrete John]

If, as reported, we cannot provide the vision to keep players like Milner at the club, what hope do we ever have of attracting players like Walcott and Benayoun.
I think we need to have realistic expectations that big name players from big teams won't want to come.
I fear that the message that Milner jumping ship sends out, will be worse than the actual loss of the player.
However, one question I would like to ask Jimmy, if he goes.....'What exactly was it that attracted you to billionaire club, Manchester City ?'

I think you've sort of answered your own question there!

Man City are seen by all as eventual league/champions league winners, so are therefore an attractive proposition.  I don't think it's a case of our 'vision' being poor, just poor compared to "We have more money than anyone else and will keep spending until it happens."

Personally, I think we'll have this issue with our best players until and unless we reach the CL ourselves.

[ktvillan]

THe thing with Young is he does get beaten by nippy wingers a little too often, malouda making a complete mug of him was one of the lowlights of 'that' non performance.

Sorry but who are these wingers that have given Luke the runaround? Citing the Malouda thing is a nonsense, everyone knows Young was left totally exposed by O'Neill in that game with no right midfielder as cover, and Malouda and the attacking fullback (Ivanovic?) were just able to pass around him.  Compare to the semi final when Carlos, despite a right midfielder to help out, was left for dead on several occasions by the Chelsea winger.  So who else has beaten Luke a little too easily?

Aside from that MON seems to like players that are willing to dig in and prove that they deserve to be given a spot, Young's decision to drop out of the england reckoning because he wasn't getting a fair crack probably didn't go down too well, and the [incredibly unfortunate] need for him to have compassionate leave right on the back of an injury lay off forced o'neill to try something else which he thought worked well so he stuck with it.

I sincerely doubt Young's decision re England bothered O'Neill in the slightest.  His comments about the Moscow surrender and being played out of position,  however, almost certainly did.  Luke got back in the side after his compassionate leave and was dropped later, probably after his comments about playing at left back.  O'Neill has shown with his reaction to the fans that he does not take criticism well, however mild it is. I reckon he'd ostracise sections of the crowd if he could.

[ktvillan]

O'Neill does have a track record of getting rid of people that aren't willing to prove themselves to him (Davis and Cahill being great examples) but that's what he expects from players.  His choice of management style is that he wants every single player to prove they deserve their chance, whether we agree with his assessment in this regarding some players isn't relevant, if MON is anything it's that he's not afraid to back himself.

If you mean players out of the side need to do their upmost in training and those that don't struggle to get back in, you may have a very good point.

Exactly, he just seems like the kind of guy who doesn't take people who are all talk.  If you look at the players who've done well under him anywhere primarily they've all got that run themselves into the ground mentality, I just don't think he goes for players who won't do that.  I also think that, as that's a fairly british attribute, it explains his transfer policy.

Interesting angle, considering the NRC situation.  It was reported the bust up with O'Neill occurred because NRC had a go at Delfounso for being a lazy fecker in training and not putting any effort in.  Now many bosses say you can't have enough leaders on the pitch and love that sort of attitude where the senior pros care enough to give the youngster a kick up the backside when needed. I'd wager many bossess would have NRC as their captain for those kind of attributes.  But, apparently,  O'Neill sided with Defounso and had a go at NRC for shouting at one of the youngsters.  Which ended badly.  So NRC who was trying to get the most out of training gets a bollocking, while lazy boy Fonz remains in favour.

[Clampy]

Personally I really wouldnt want Wallcott, I think he is a one trick pony. Can't cross bad decision making and no real skill, He struggles to go around people which is why he isnt going to South Africa..

Just a personal opinion

I know what you're saying Phil, but the reason his crossing is poor is because he's not really a winger. He's a striker, it's where he started. He's pacy more than skilful, which is why he goes past people rather than round them.