Summer 2010 Transfer Thread: B*llsh*t, Rumours & Wishes

[Greg N'Ash]

If i thought we had the money i'd move Milner from the centre and buy Ireland and a creative midfielder for the middle with petrov as a reserve.. I know he's been excellant but we miss him elsewhere. i guess we have to hope Downiing comes good

Do that and Milner will be off. He rightly sees himself as a central midfiled player now, shove him out somewhere where he's less involved and he'll surely look for a move.

It's also a bad idea because Milner is twice the player Ireland is.

You reckon? can't remember him claiming he'd rather play in CM but maybe i missed it. I would say he hasn't got much chance of playing CM for England

[PaulTheVillan]

I also can't see Milner moaning about having to play wide.

[cb]

If i thought we had the money i'd move Milner from the centre and buy Ireland and a creative midfielder for the middle with petrov as a reserve.. I know he's been excellant but we miss him elsewhere. i guess we have to hope Downiing comes good

Do that and Milner will be off. He rightly sees himself as a central midfiled player now, shove him out somewhere where he's less involved and he'll surely look for a move.

It's also a bad idea because Milner is twice the player Ireland is.

Ireland's a very good player, he's creative and he puts in a decent amount of work.  Milner's good but saying he's twice as good as Ireland is a bit silly.

Really is he? He had a great season last year but he's done the sum total of F all this year. I said last year that I thought it would be his best ever season and I stand by it. Think "Lee Hendrie on acid" just about sums him up...

[Mazrim]

Might be mad, but I like Vanden Borre at Pompey - attacks well as seen a few times today and was a teenage prodigy I recall. Think he has a lot to offer.

Well, his ability to use submission holds in the penalty area and get away with it would be an advantage. I cant think of any other reason to sign him though.


I'm a fan of Micah Richards. If we assume MON just doesnt rate his current right backs, he'd fit in really well here. As would Stephen Ireland.
But really, Ireland would be competing with Milner for the attacking midfielder role so maybe finding a better holding midfielder would be more wise.

As things stand I'd say priorities were:
A top striker.
A quick, defensive midfielder with a good passing range.
A winger.
A right back.

So I'd say an example squad of:

Friedel, Guzan, Siegrist.
Warnock, Richards, L Young, Bouma
Dunne, Cuellar, Collins, Davies, Clark.
Milner (c), Petrov, Witsel, Parker, Reo Coker, Delph, Gardner
A Young, Downing, Albrighton, Hleb
Agbonlahor, Dzeko, Carew, Delfouneso, Weimann
with a group of kids on standby


Tarah a bit:
Sidwell, Beye, Shorey, Heskey, Marshall, Harewood, Salifou, Osbourne, (possibly Davies).
That lot should raise £15m least and clear a load off the wage bill.

But I've no idea thow much there is to spend and neither has anybody else outside of the boardroom, I'm sure. Just the type of players I think would suit us.

[Chris Smith]

If i thought we had the money i'd move Milner from the centre and buy Ireland and a creative midfielder for the middle with petrov as a reserve.. I know he's been excellant but we miss him elsewhere. i guess we have to hope Downiing comes good

Do that and Milner will be off. He rightly sees himself as a central midfiled player now, shove him out somewhere where he's less involved and he'll surely look for a move.

It's also a bad idea because Milner is twice the player Ireland is.

Ireland's a very good player, he's creative and he puts in a decent amount of work.  Milner's good but saying he's twice as good as Ireland is a bit silly.

I think he is, that's why one is a certainty for the World Cup and the other is a Man City sub.

[pauliewalnuts]

If i thought we had the money i'd move Milner from the centre and buy Ireland and a creative midfielder for the middle with petrov as a reserve.. I know he's been excellant but we miss him elsewhere. i guess we have to hope Downiing comes good

Do that and Milner will be off. He rightly sees himself as a central midfiled player now, shove him out somewhere where he's less involved and he'll surely look for a move.

It's also a bad idea because Milner is twice the player Ireland is.

Ireland's a very good player, he's creative and he puts in a decent amount of work.  Milner's good but saying he's twice as good as Ireland is a bit silly.

I think he is, that's why one is a certainty for the World Cup and the other is a Man City sub.

Milner's versatile where Ireland isn't, which is why he's now seen as a stick-on for the World Cup.

Good luck to him, he's more than deserved it this season.

[shipscat]

As much as I agree with the nature of your post Maz,I can't see how we'd get 15 million for those mentioned.

Davies is the one gem,but then we'd be letting a potentially class player go for what,5/6 million to depend on a youngster(Clarke) whom hasn't played hardly a snitch of league football in arguably the most important position.

I think we'd be lucky to receive 2.5 million for Sidwell,1.5 for Heskey,2 for Shorey and a nominal for Beye,with diddly squat for the rest.Taking into effect their wages and ages.

I hope I'm mistaken but I think to enhance our squad we're going to need some deep pockets from Randy.

Personally I believe whenever Martins been backed with decent amounts he's got it right,as the majority of the less successful moves have been in the budget/squad margin.

[Mazrim]

As much as I agree with the nature of your post Maz,I can't see how we'd get 15 million for those mentioned.

Davies is the one gem,but then we'd be letting a potentially class player go for what,5/6 million to depend on a youngster(Clarke) whom hasn't played hardly a snitch of league football in arguably the most important position.

I think we'd be lucky to receive 2.5 million for Sidwell,1.5 for Heskey,2 for Shorey and a nominal for Beye,with diddly squat for the rest.Taking into effect their wages and ages.

I hope I'm mistaken but I think to enhance our squad we're going to need some deep pockets from Randy.

Personally I believe whenever Martins been backed with decent amounts he's got it right,as the majority of the less successful moves have been in the budget/squad margin.

I dont really want to get rid of Curtis either. I do rate him. But Clark is going to be the best centre half at the club sooner or later and is good enough to be one of 4 already I reckon.

So, if we cant keep 5 happy or we have to raise some cash, Curtis would be the most saleable and despite being a good player I'd rather keep, it wouldn't hurt us much to lose him.

As for sales. I'd guess £3m for Sidwell.
One of the promoted teams or somebody like Bolton might be tempted. Hopefully we could mug one off that he's still a good player.
£3m for Heskey. He's still a decent player that could do a good job for a lot of teams. He's just not good enough for us.
Shorey is a decent player that hasnt worlded out at Villa. I think £2.5m would be reasonable. Beye should still fetch a couple of million. He's a good player. Newcastle will be back in for him I should think.
The rest would be nominal fees, yes. Maybe £10-£12m is more realistic. Nearer £17-£20m if Davies was sold. Depends who wants them I suppose.

[Greg N'Ash]

Just can't see anyone paying that sort of fee for Davies. The type of clubs  who'd want him won't pay his wages and while they can justify 5m and the wages for a young player like Cahill or Ridgewell, who out of the bolton's ,blackburn's of this world will take on Davies' wages unless they get him cheap. Same problem wiith NRC and Sidwell in that we could be stuck with them unless we sell them off cheap

[Dave Cooper please]

I'd love us to sign Richards, Ireland and Pavulechenko with possibles of Rodiega and Dorrens.

I'd like this if only because it would seriously piss off all the Boggies in my local.
And he's a very good player.

[Dave Cooper please]

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It's also a bad idea because Milner is twice the player Ireland is.

It's all subjective but no he isn't. Besides they are different types of player anyway, and both could play in the same team if we drop Petrov to the bench.
Ireland isn't better than Milner but he is better than Petrov, therefore buying him would improve us.

[Olneythelonely]

Ireland isn't better than Milner but he is better than Petrov, therefore buying him would improve us.

He's a different type of midfielder though, so wouldn't be a replacement for Petrov.

[Chris Smith]

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It's also a bad idea because Milner is twice the player Ireland is.

It's all subjective but no he isn't. Besides they are different types of player anyway, and both could play in the same team if we drop Petrov to the bench.
Ireland isn't better than Milner but he is better than Petrov, therefore buying him would improve us.

I don't see Ireland and Milner as a pair. At Man City on the odd occasion that they let him anywhere near the pitch it's with at least one and often two holding midfield players to allow him to play behind the strikers. We don't play like that and he's not good enough to change the whole team around to accomodate him. He's a luxury player which is why he gets so few start, that and him being a bit of a twat.

[pedro25]

I say De Jong because they have since signed Barry and Viera in his position and have Kompany too.  If they strengthen in the summer also then 1 of these players should be available, I'd take Kompany instead if necessary.

[Mazrim]

Just can't see anyone paying that sort of fee for Davies. The type of clubs  who'd want him won't pay his wages and while they can justify 5m and the wages for a young player like Cahill or Ridgewell, who out of the bolton's ,blackburn's of this world will take on Davies' wages unless they get him cheap. Same problem wiith NRC and Sidwell in that we could be stuck with them unless we sell them off cheap

There's less than a year between Cahill and Davies and he's younger than Ridgewell. And how do you know how much they're on?

Basically, Davies is a fairly highly rated young English defender. We're not going to give him away are we?