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Offline Lowendbehold

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« Reply #705 on: June 08, 2010, 02:18:06 PM »
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The debt is to the Lerner family trust and not Randy personally, although I'm sure he could leverage it some way if necessary.

With Man U at least, I thought it was a new holding company they created to buy the club that held the debt, although I may have that wrong!


If what you say about Man U is correct it will presumably rest with the enthusiasm of EUFA to enforce the rules.  I think Liverpool are the same with Kop FC Ltd.

Wasn't there an argument recently in England about a holding company going into administration and the club trying to avoid the points deduction?  It went against the club I think.  

It would be a complete farce if clubs could avoid the rules in such a simplistic way.

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« Reply #706 on: June 08, 2010, 04:26:09 PM »
If Salisbury City's appeal in unsuccessful and they are demoted, will another side take their place in the conference?

Or will it be a 23 team league, like the end of last season when Chester City were struck off?

Offline Dave Cooper please

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« Reply #707 on: June 08, 2010, 06:33:02 PM »
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If Salisbury City's appeal in unsuccessful and they are demoted, will another side take their place in the conference?

Or will it be a 23 team league, like the end of last season when Chester City were struck off?


Forest Green will be reprieved.

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« Reply #708 on: June 08, 2010, 09:30:39 PM »

Offline hawkeye

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« Reply #709 on: June 08, 2010, 11:44:26 PM »
Quote from: "Lowendbehold"
Quote from: "John M"
The debt is to the Lerner family trust and not Randy personally, although I'm sure he could leverage it some way if necessary.

With Man U at least, I thought it was a new holding company they created to buy the club that held the debt, although I may have that wrong!


If what you say about Man U is correct it will presumably rest with the enthusiasm of EUFA to enforce the rules.  I think Liverpool are the same with Kop FC Ltd.

Wasn't there an argument recently in England about a holding company going into administration and the club trying to avoid the points deduction?  It went against the club I think.  

It would be a complete farce if clubs could avoid the rules in such a simplistic way.
they cant

Offline VillaZogmariner

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« Reply #710 on: June 09, 2010, 02:52:07 AM »
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Imagine this in the Premier League?

http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/sport/8206799.Cheddar_cheesed_off_with_Terras/


Surely someone at their Football Association would've spotted the error sooner.

Offline BannedUserIAT

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« Reply #711 on: June 09, 2010, 03:05:10 AM »
They can't? Maybe not in a simplistic way.

But if you think that there's no way that an astute club chairman, combined with a few immensely paid lawyers couldn't figure out of way of bypassing any of this, you have a surprise coming your way.

Offline Jimbo

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« Reply #712 on: June 09, 2010, 09:42:09 AM »
Rumours flowing in with the desert breeze out here that Sheikh Khalifa, of Burj Khalifa fame, is interested in buying Liverpool? And he's got a bob or two.

Doesn't he know that they're finished?

Offline BannedUserIAT

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« Reply #713 on: June 09, 2010, 10:10:13 AM »
I wanna see a Danny DeVito-esque character come in, in the style of "Other People's Money" and break it all up.

I'd enjoy that.

Certain clubs really are ******-ish and deserve a massive come-uppance.

Man Utd
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man City.

Surely someone, somewhere can arrange the slight mis-programming of a few cruise-missiles?

Online pauliewalnuts

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« Reply #714 on: June 09, 2010, 10:17:22 AM »
Athough it isn't by any means this simple, what we need to remember is that, what Man City are to us, we are to lots of other clubs.

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« Reply #715 on: June 09, 2010, 10:23:57 AM »
I don't recall seeing Villa fans dressed as Arab's with "Considerably Richer Than Yow" placards, whining on message boards that other clubs are screwing up the transfer market by holding them to ransom, carrying on like they can just buy who they want, when they want.

I do know what you mean, though. More money, better facilities, etc. But Man City are just so fucking crass. I can't make up my mind if they're just bluenoses who've won the lottery or Chelsea without London.

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« Reply #716 on: June 09, 2010, 10:50:39 AM »
Since the Randy era began, we've done a few things that have probably portrayed us well to other fans:-

1.  Given young English players a chance.
2.  The compliments from Leeds over our handling of the Delph signing.
3.  Pissing off Liverpool and the FSW over Barry.
4.  Acorns.
5.  Not won anything.

We may not necessarily be liked by others, but we're not hated in the same way some are.

Offline eastie

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« Reply #717 on: June 09, 2010, 10:59:28 AM »
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Since the Randy era began, we've done a few things that have probably portrayed us well to other fans:-

1.  Given young English players a chance.
2.  The compliments from Leeds over our handling of the Delph signing.
3.  Pissing off Liverpool and the FSW over Barry.
4.  Acorns.
5.  Not won anything.

We may not necessarily be liked by others, but we're not hated in the same way some are.
Depends where you are john- if I put a villa sticker in my car I would guarantee my windows would be put through in a day-the hatred of villa here is incredible.

My brother in law never spoke to my wife for many yrs because she married a villa fan!

Offline Concrete John

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« Reply #718 on: June 09, 2010, 11:10:06 AM »
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Quote from: "John M"
Since the Randy era began, we've done a few things that have probably portrayed us well to other fans:-

1.  Given young English players a chance.
2.  The compliments from Leeds over our handling of the Delph signing.
3.  Pissing off Liverpool and the FSW over Barry.
4.  Acorns.
5.  Not won anything.

We may not necessarily be liked by others, but we're not hated in the same way some are.
Depends where you are john- if I put a villa sticker in my car I would guarantee my windows would be put through in a day-the hatred of villa here is incredible.

My brother in law never spoke to my wife for many yrs because she married a villa fan!


OK, I'll qualify that to say we're not hated in civilization.

Offline Jimbo

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« Reply #719 on: June 09, 2010, 12:39:14 PM »
Quote from: "John M"
Quote from: "east19"
Quote from: "John M"
Since the Randy era began, we've done a few things that have probably portrayed us well to other fans:-

1.  Given young English players a chance.
2.  The compliments from Leeds over our handling of the Delph signing.
3.  Pissing off Liverpool and the FSW over Barry.
4.  Acorns.
5.  Not won anything.

We may not necessarily be liked by others, but we're not hated in the same way some are.
Depends where you are john- if I put a villa sticker in my car I would guarantee my windows would be put through in a day-the hatred of villa here is incredible.

My brother in law never spoke to my wife for many yrs because she married a villa fan!


OK, I'll qualify that to say we're not hated in civilization.


Or the 21st century.

 


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