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[AV82EC]

It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential.  But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.

Not sure that’s true Risso, wasn’t there a report from the Boston Consulting Group recently which basically said the biggest opportunity for business to reduce GHG emissions was to massively increase our use of meat replacement products.

They were talking about the best value investment for cutting greenhouse gas emissions being the switch to non-animal protein. However, it doesn't cost anything to just do less.

Agree on both points. And yes we need to cut the travel out in pre season or at least minimise or decarbonise things where we can.

[Rory]

It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential.  But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.

I'm not sure there are many environmentalists seriously advocating that we 'stop' eating meat, because behaviour change that drastic is just not realistic. The short-term message is more to reduce meat consumption.

Overall, however, I think you're absolutely right. On an individual level, it's about being aware of our carbon footprints and making efficiencies where we can.

I went to Tesco last week and fancied some apples. I saw a pack marked 'SEASONAL APPLES'. I got to the checkout before realising that by 'seasonal', the packaging actually meant 'seasonal in South Africa'.

I know people my age (my fiancee included) who go vegan, pay countless additional pounds to buy sustainable and carbon-neutral products, and spend hours researching every single product line and brand before buying anything from them. But their effort is pissing in the wind compared to other people my age who eat two steaks, two avocados and three chicken breasts a day to 'maximise' their 'gains', and take three or four intercontinental return flights to get 'grammable' selfies in front of landmarks.

Sporting institutions can set an example by minimising unnecessary travel and climate-destructive practises.

[AV82EC]

It's an interesting discussion, because the biggest thing humans can do to stop global warming isn't to stop eating meat, it's just to "do less". So don't go on holiday abroad, don't drive to the coast for a day out, have online meetings instead of driving somewhere, etc etc, just stop doing stuff that isn't essential.  But this clearly isn't compatible with sport, eg the World Cup, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Champions League and so on.

I'm not sure there are many environmentalists seriously advocating that we 'stop' eating meat, because behaviour change that drastic is just not realistic. The short-term message is more to reduce meat consumption.

Overall, however, I think you're absolutely right. On an individual level, it's about being aware of our carbon footprints and making efficiencies where we can.

I went to Tesco last week and fancied some apples. I saw a pack marked 'SEASONAL APPLES'. I got to the checkout before realising that by 'seasonal', the packaging actually meant 'seasonal in South Africa'.

I know people my age (my fiancee included) who go vegan, pay countless additional pounds to buy sustainable and carbon-neutral products, and spend hours researching every single product line and brand before buying anything from them. But their effort is pissing in the wind compared to other people my age who eat two steaks, two avocados and three chicken breasts a day to 'maximise' their 'gains', and take three or four intercontinental return flights to get 'grammable' selfies in front of landmarks.

Sporting institutions can set an example by minimising unnecessary travel and climate-destructive practises.

Sorry Rory but "Grammable" is now a thing? Fucking hell I'm old.

[Proposition Joe]

As a general point that doesn't really belong in the football section of this forum, this putting the onus on individuals to change their habits to save the planet is top level gaslighting by dirty industry and governments. What we can do can help a little, but the only real change can come from governments and corporations.

[Brazilian Villain]

I was worried about climate change but then Klopp comexplained it's just like fixture congestion in football so I'll sleep easier now.