Aston Villa 1-3 Newcastle Post match cry

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Sorry to hear that, Lastfootstamper. Scumbags!

[London Villan]

Emery actively stops the quick breaks. I think there are times when they are needed.

We also left two players up on corners too. Which ive never seen us do before.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s close but order of best centre half’s is Pau, Ezri, Mings, DC, Lenglet for me.

Pau is the best all-round player out of that lot. But Mings is the more physical of the two and the best fit for us in this league.

All about opinions, but in mine Torres gets us into the Champions League places and Ty doesn’t. Ty is a good physical centre half, probably better physically than Pau, but Pau’s all round game makes him elite level.

[ChicagoLion]

It’s close but order of best centre half’s is Pau, Ezri, Mings, DC, Lenglet for me.

Pau is the best all-round player out of that lot. But Mings is the more physical of the two and the best fit for us in this league.

All about opinions, but in mine Torres gets us into the Champions League places and Ty doesn’t. Ty is a good physical centre half, probably better physically than Pau, but Pau’s all round game makes him elite level.

I agree.

[Pat McMahon]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

Yep.  Need a plan B

Plan b is for EMI to hit it long to feet to the wide players or occasionally Watkins.

A problem with this is that Watkins and Diaby are not good at playing back to goal and are generally outmuscled by opponents meaning quick loss of possession. Our best players at holding the ball up are probably Duran and Zaniolo.

[VillaTim]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

Yep.  Need a plan B

Plan b is for EMI to hit it long to feet to the wide players or occasionally Watkins.

A problem with this is that Watkins and Diaby are not good at playing back to goal and are generally outmuscled by opponents meaning quick loss of possession. Our best players at holding the ball up are probably Duran and Zaniolo.

Not being funny mate but which Villa games you been watching this season

[RichardBatchelor]

We really miss Mings' defending at set pieces.

We just really miss him full stop. Best CB at the club still.

Injured players become legends in our imagination. It wasn't long ago that a lot on here described him as a "mistake or two per match Tyrone".

Very true as a general rule, but Mings is a legend. Period.

[PaulWinch again]

He’s been a top player for us, and hopefully still has plenty to offer but Pau is the best centre back at the club.

[Pat McMahon]

Playing out from the back has become ineffective. The defenders get pushed back into the corners and the midfielders don't make themselves available.

Yep.  Need a plan B

Plan b is for EMI to hit it long to feet to the wide players or occasionally Watkins.

A problem with this is that Watkins and Diaby are not good at playing back to goal and are generally outmuscled by opponents meaning quick loss of possession. Our best players at holding the ball up are probably Duran and Zaniolo.

Not being funny mate but which Villa games you been watching this season

I didn’t say they were the reincarnation of Christian Benteke, simply that they are our best forwards at holding up the ball back to goal!

[VillaTim]

He’s been a top player for us, and hopefully still has plenty to offer but Pau is the best centre back at the club.

He might be a better passer but Mings is a far superior defender and leader

[Risso]

We don't know what effect playing next to Torres might have on Mings, it might bring his game on even more like it has Konsa's. Assuming Pau's injury isn't career ending, obviously.

[pauliewalnuts]

Mings is a natural leader, and I love the bloke, but he's going to have to get back into the team ahead of Torres - and the other CBs - on merit.

Torres, Mings, Carlos, Konsa - that must be close to the best group of CBs in the Premier League?

[Ads]

Torres is by a mile our best centre half. That doesnt make Mings a bad player, just not as good as Torres, whose thumping header at Spurs shows he's just as bigger threat at set pieces as Ty is/was.

[London Villan]

Mings is a natural leader, and I love the bloke, but he's going to have to get back into the team ahead of Torres - and the other CBs - on merit.

Torres, Mings, Carlos, Konsa - that must be close to the best group of CBs in the Premier League?

Not sure I'd have Carlos in that list... but it would be hard to pick two starters from the other three when fit.

[Risso]

Mings is a natural leader, and I love the bloke, but he's going to have to get back into the team ahead of Torres - and the other CBs - on merit.

Torres, Mings, Carlos, Konsa - that must be close to the best group of CBs in the Premier League?

Not sure I'd have Carlos in that list... but it would be hard to pick two starters from the other three when fit.

Was just about to say I'm not sure Carlos belongs in there. But I guess as 4th choice paulie's right, not many better than that.