If he had of stayed and stayed at his best, he would be the first name on the team sheet and we would have a won a trophy in the last 3 years.
I just think we had and still have a tendency to look at him through rose-tinted glasses and think he is better than he actually was as he was the only bright spot in a long, dark period
Quote from: Pat Mustard on November 21, 2025, 03:01:29 PM I just think we had and still have a tendency to look at him through rose-tinted glasses and think he is better than he actually was as he was the only bright spot in a long, dark period I'd argue the way he left us has led some to underrate what he did for us. Some comments here are way OTT. He was the unbelievable for us. There's a reason he went for £100m. Not many players of ours would have been a mainstay of that Man City team that won the treble.
At his best he was utterly brilliant.
Quote from: TonyD on November 21, 2025, 04:37:06 PMAt his best he was utterly brilliant. Quote from: enigma on November 21, 2025, 04:17:43 PMQuote from: Pat Mustard on November 21, 2025, 03:01:29 PM I just think we had and still have a tendency to look at him through rose-tinted glasses and think he is better than he actually was as he was the only bright spot in a long, dark period I'd argue the way he left us has led some to underrate what he did for us. Some comments here are way OTT. He was the unbelievable for us. There's a reason he went for £100m. Not many players of ours would have been a mainstay of that Man City team that won the treble.Mainstay of that Man City team is pushing it - he had a good season, but I don't think he made that big a difference to them to be honest even in the treble year, and aside from that year he was largely anonymous. He went for £100 million because they are C115y and they could - he was a largely marketing signing for them and they didn't want him going elsewhere.I'd also note that we have beaten them pretty comfortably at Villa Park three years in a row now. Our teams for the last 3 years are so far ahead of any team he played in that even at his best I couldn't honestly name him ahead of Tielemans, Kamara, Rogers or even McGinn in the types of matches we now win regularly.