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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on January 18, 2026, 03:17:29 PM
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Thought Alysson might have made the bench today. That’s probably as strong as we can put out.
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Better hope the first 11 do the job.
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I know it’s an obvious point to make, but our bench is proper weak in terms of attacking options.
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Them not having Ndiaye helps.
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Alysson injured
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Thought Alysson might have made the bench today. That’s probably as strong as we can put out.
Unlikely as he's injured.
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Line-up as expected. Let's do them!
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Thought Alysson might have made the bench today. That’s probably as strong as we can put out.
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He's injured isn't he?
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Sancho?
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No Sancho....not a great deal of attacking options on the bench g
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Them not having Ndiaye helps.
Oh no! Did't we say that when Rice was missing the other day?
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Sancho?
Hopefully on his way back to Manchester.
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Yes no game changers now on the bench. Temporary I'm sure but it's a risk to let Malen go without getting in a replacement first
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Some great defensive options on the bench at least. The reason we won't win the league is the rest of the bench sadly.
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Sancho?
Ill
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Stick Mings up top if we are desperate.
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Yes no game changers now on the bench. Temporary I'm sure but it's a risk to let Malen go without getting in a replacement first
Cue Guessand to come on in a CF role and score ...
... maybe not!
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That bench looks very week. Letting Malen go before we had a replacement is stupid.
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Beeb
When Villa ruled England
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Aston Villa v Everton (16:30 GMT)
The year is 1981.
Tottenham beat Manchester City 3-2 in an exciting FA Cup final replay at Wembley.
Liverpool win the European Cup for the third time after overcoming Real Madrid in the final in Paris.
And Aston Villa are crowned champions of England for the first time since 1910.
Those joyous Villa celebrations 45 years ago, will they be repeated in May?
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Yeah not great at all.
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That Everton team looks very weak on paper. There for the taking.
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Beeb
When Villa ruled England
published at 15:06 GMT
15:06 GMT
Aston Villa v Everton (16:30 GMT)
The year is 1981.
Tottenham beat Manchester City 3-2 in an exciting FA Cup final replay at Wembley.
Liverpool win the European Cup for the third time after overcoming Real Madrid in the final in Paris.
And Aston Villa are crowned champions of England for the first time since 1910.
Those joyous Villa celebrations 45 years ago, will they be repeated in May?
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Can you and TV just start your own jinxy forum and leave the rest of us in peace?
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That Everton team looks very weak on paper. There for the taking.
It's even worse on grass.
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Queues to get into the Warehouse but still like having a drink at Kwik Fit.
Seems to have affected Witton Arms as no queue and looked a lot of space at the front!
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That bench looks very week. Letting Malen go before we had a replacement is stupid.
It is if we don’t win. We better win.
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Look at the Newcastle bench in comparison today. Chalk and cheese.
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Roma were hardly going to wait and risk him being injured.
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Think we'll have too much for them today, routine 2-0 and we go second.
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Roma were hardly going to wait and risk him being injured.
Well tell them bollocks and keep him, then.
Moronic decision from the club. Trying to win the league and our back up striker is a lad from the youth team.
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2-0 C’mon me Villa babbies!!
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Roma were hardly going to wait and risk him being injured.
We could have been playing hardball...
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Roma were hardly going to wait and risk him being injured.
Well tell them bollocks and keep him, then.
Moronic decision from the club. Trying to win the league and our back up striker is a lad from the youth team.
So you're saying Unai is a moron? Or the owners?
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If you put Onaka, Barkley, Kamara, Sancho and Alysson on that bench it starts to look a lot stronger. The bench has looked good this season, we're just carrying a lot of knocks and now obviously one attacker light.
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It’s not a great decision when you look at the squad today. Hopefully it won’t matter, but good decision makers make poor decisions. Our bench isn’t strong enough.
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Roma were hardly going to wait and risk him being injured.
Well tell them bollocks and keep him, then.
Moronic decision from the club. Trying to win the league and our back up striker is a lad from the youth team.
So you're saying Unai is a moron? Or the owners?
I'm saying it was a moronic decision, because it obviously was.
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So whoever made it is a moron, which would most likely be Unai.
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So whoever made it is a moron, which would most likely be Unai.
Alex Ferguson sold Paul McGrath. Clever people do stupid things, sometimes. Your inability to countenance any criticism of the club when they do something which is obviously stupid is just weird.
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We are operating under sanction in the transfer market, I thought this was well known. We did a deal with Uefa on our squad cost ratio so we presumably needed Malen's high wage off the books if we had any desire to bring in better suited player.
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We are operating under sanction in the transfer market, I thought this was well known. We did a deal with Uefa on our squad cost ratio so we presumably needed Malen's high wage off the books if we had any desire to bring in better suited player.
There is no rule saying you have to sell him halfway through the transfer window.
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Not as weird as always resorting to insults.
According to some we were stupid getting rid of Ings, Archer, Luiz and so on. And yet the reason we're in a title challenge is because of the people that make those decisions.
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But we don't know that it is a stupid decision yet. Right now, at most, it's a risky call, win today and pick up a replacement in the next few days and letting Malen go is fine.
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Sancho.....
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Not as weird as always resorting to insults.
According to some we were stupid getting rid of Ings, Archer, Luiz and so on. And yet the reason we're in a title challenge is because of the people that make those decisions.
There was no insult. We had plenty of time to get replacements for those players so not worthwhile comparison. We have actively chosen to handicap ourselves for today's match.
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Ings left a day before we played Saints as we pushed for Europe.
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But we don't know that it is a stupid decision yet. Right now, at most, it's a risky call, win today and pick up a replacement in the next few days and letting Malen go is fine.
No, a stupid risk is a stupid risk. If you decide to jump into the lions' enclosure at the local zoo, it's still a really bad fucking idea, even if you ultimately emerge unscathed.
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On the face of it, it is a weird decision. But you don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.
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Look at the Newcastle bench in comparison today. Chalk and cheese.
Still couldn't beat a bunch of neutered wolves.
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Ings left a day before we played Saints as we pushed for Europe.
That was stupid, too, then.
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It would have been nice to at least have seen a young striker on the bench ...
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So whoever made it is a moron, which would most likely be Unai.
Alex Ferguson sold Paul McGrath. Clever people do stupid things, sometimes.
Emery took a lot of grief on here when he let Danny Ings go without a replacement. Watkins hat trick incoming today!
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That bench looks very week. Letting Malen go before we had a replacement is stupid.
or even this game .
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Transfers don't always happen when fans want but Malen wanted to go, we wanted him to go, so he went. Does anyone think Unai wasn't ok with him going? His comments suggest he was more than fine with it.
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That bench looks very week. Letting Malen go before we had a replacement is stupid.
Yep.
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Chance to go 2nd, bring it Villa Park...
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Why no Sancho?
He off too?
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Sky cameras in our dressing room, how dare they!
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Why no Sancho?
He off too?
Broke a nail .
The first 11 has to win this unless Guessand comes on and gets a hatrick.
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Transfers don't always happen when fans want but Malen wanted to go, we wanted him to go, so he went. Does anyone think Unai wasn't ok with him going? His comments suggest he was more than fine with it.
Still doesn’t mean that it isn’t particularly good timing in the context of this game. It is absolutely quite a big risk - it might not crystallise, hopefully it won’t - but we have very little available if we need to change the game.
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That bench looks very week. Letting Malen go before we had a replacement is stupid.
Yep.
It is stupid. If Watkins gets injured today, we'll be in a terrible bargaining position trying to get in a replacement.
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I'm going to assume they are more interested in getting the squad nearer what they want longer term rather than focusing on 1 game.
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Nice comfortable home win please.
2-0
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Dion Dublin clueless on 5Live. Matty Cash can do a job in midfield if needed.
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Dion Dublin clueless on 5Live. Matty Cash can do a job in midfield if needed.
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Right then, win, no injuries and new striker by next week please, Villa.
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Blimey, let off!
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Yikes.
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But we don't know that it is a stupid decision yet. Right now, at most, it's a risky call, win today and pick up a replacement in the next few days and letting Malen go is fine.
No, a stupid risk is a stupid risk. If you decide to jump into the lions' enclosure at the local zoo, it's still a really bad fucking idea, even if you ultimately emerge unscathed.
but if, as an example, Guessand comes on up front (which wouldn't have happened if Malen was still here) and scores it's not the risk you're predicting. Hence why calling it moronic before kick off because you're a bit upset about the bench is an over-reaction.
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wtf
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Bloody hell
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But we don't know that it is a stupid decision yet. Right now, at most, it's a risky call, win today and pick up a replacement in the next few days and letting Malen go is fine.
No, a stupid risk is a stupid risk. If you decide to jump into the lions' enclosure at the local zoo, it's still a really bad fucking idea, even if you ultimately emerge unscathed.
Duran, Luiz, Ings were all sold and we went from strength to strength. Very surprised by these comments from you
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I agree with cd.
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Booing Grealish is very small time.
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Booing Grealish is very small time.
Agreed
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Booing Grealish is very small time.
It is
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Decent chance. Good by Cash, less so by Rogers.
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Booing Grealish is very small time.
I think they were shouting "Boooouuuu-bacar", in tribute to our stricken midfielder.
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THats a big chance
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Argh. Shit pass from Buendia.
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Argh. Shit pass from Buendia.
???
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I wouldn't boo him. Mainly because him playing for Whiners FC while we go for the title is far more soul destroying for him.
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2-1 to us on chances.
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Sorry if it’s been answered already, but where is Sancho today?
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Sorry if it’s been answered already, but where is Sancho today?
He's ill.
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Sorry if it’s been answered already, but where is Sancho today?
He's ill.
Ta. Terrible timing.
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Central midfielder injury #37,623.
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Hes done, another fucking knee
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Oh fucking hell.
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Evanny coming on.
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If this is anything midfield is a serious problem.
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Season fucked.
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Disaster on two fronts!
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Who has got injured this time?
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Fcuk' sake.
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ffs
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With the results going our way yesterday I started to get a bad feeling about today and this is not looking great
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We’re in serious trouble in midfield now.
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Bollocks. SJM crocked now.
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Who has got injured this time?
McGinn
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These injuries are piling up.
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Damn
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Lets hope Everton are Guessands Gabon.
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Can Lindelöf play in midfield?
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Unbelievable.
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Looked worrying. Think he's out for a while.
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Let's hope he has reinvented himself as footballer while he was away.
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Time for Guessand to really step up today.
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Buendia used up all his goodness vs Spurs I see.
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I'll go 37 minutes for the Tielemans injury.
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Can't we just go ONE fucking season without an injury armageddon?
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We look rattled.
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Can Lindelöf play in midfield?
Whether he can or not, he might have to.
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When is Onana coming back?
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Jeez we really do need some new players in, this week ideally.
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thast two wank balls by Buendia
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Dwight booked.
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We need to get a grip.
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Seven games in Dec, same amount scheduled for Jan.
It takes a toll.
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That was actually decent refereeing. Normally teams get away with cynical shit like that against us.
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See McNeill has borrowed Cole Palmers hairline for the day.
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guessand good block even if he didnt know
we gone off a bit here
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thast two wank balls by Buendia
Par for the course, then he’ll do something great
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Buendia is not having a buendia. Wake the fuck up.
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We have been very flat since SJM went off.
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I’m guessing we can’t just go out and buy a few players like Man City can? The sport is much easier when you don’t have rules to follow.
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Yep, good job ref, clear yellow.
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We are really off it here.
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Cash trying to get the crowd up...too busy sucking on their Werthers.
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Palace at home vibes. Looking second best and basically no changes we can make to fix it.
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Well done Matty getting the crowd going
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Build up is much too slow,
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Wake the fuck up Buedia
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This is really poor at the moment, very flat and ponderous.
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Buendia - wake the hell up!
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We're doing ok, slow and steady and then bring on the big guns for the last 30.
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Our defenders can't find a pass into midfield. We just can't play our usual game with 240 centre mids crocked.
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Emi B is having a shocker.
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Keep giving it to Youri, the only one who can see a pass.
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Malen will tear them a new one in the second half
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Great pass, good first touch then... negative emotions.
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We need a Morg special or 2
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great run shit finish
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It's always the indispensable players that get injured isn't it? I bet Guessand could play 500 games for us and not break a nail.
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Good run from Guessand there. We need to shoot.
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Malen will tear them a new one in the second half
Why didn't Gallagher come on to replace McGinn...
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Cash trying to get the crowd up...too busy sucking on their Werthers.
It’s a dark and cold Sunday evening and people have work tomorrow. It’s a shitty time for a football match.
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Phew, Everton goal disallowed.
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Cash trying to get the crowd up...too busy sucking on their Werthers.
It’s a dark and cold Sunday evening and people have work tomorrow. It’s a shitty time for a football match.
It was too cold last time.
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Fucking sort it out Villa we’re getting outplayed by Everton.
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Can see this being given.
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Hmmmm, not looking good
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Shite
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This will be given
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Disallowed.
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Got away with that, wouldn't have been happy the other way.
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WOW, I would be fucking fuming from an Everton view....that's crap.
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Heads dropped when McGinn went off.
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Right decision
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we've got lucky with VAR there - that's a goal for me.
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I think we got away with one. We need to wake up.
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Interfering with play though
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We are so lucky. For gods sake Emery get us to put some pace into our game.
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Let that be a warning. Wake Up Villa FFS.
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Better! Ian did well.
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We are so lucky. For gods sake Emery get us to put some pace into our game.
I don't get comments like this, I really don't
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Very fortunate- sort it out, this is rubbish.
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He went for it and was close to heading it.
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Great set play that....love it.
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Correct decision, interfering with play.
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Suddenly playing alright.
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Better well done Maatsen.
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Can’t see what was wrong with that to be fair
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I’d be pissed off if that goal was ruled out for us
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thought that was it
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Better, play with some intensity.
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Can’t see what was wrong with that to be fair
It's called our get out of jail free card used.
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Is Ollie playing?
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At least this ref brought a whistle.
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Guessand isn't working hard enough down the right hand side
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Is Ollie playing?
He'll be worried about us taking him off to get Malen on.
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We are so lucky. For gods sake Emery get us to put some pace into our game.
I don't get comments like this, I really don't
Are you happy with this walking football that we are playing? Nobody is even getting some pace into the game.
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Sutton correct, Guessand was lazy.
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Maatsen playing well though
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Pau has been shocking. Get Lindelof on at HT.
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We are so lucky. For gods sake Emery get us to put some pace into our game.
I don't get comments like this, I really don't
I do - I think we need to up the tempo
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Guessand is the laziest footballer i have seen at this level
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Half time can't can't quick enough.
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Fucking hell Guessand you are a Villa player 100% please 😡
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We are so lucky. For gods sake Emery get us to put some pace into our game.
I don't get comments like this, I really don't
Are you happy with this walking football that we are playing? Nobody is even getting some pace into the game.
You should be used to it by now though. We play alot of the game at a slow pace until we have some chances and then will have the burst.
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Fuck me!
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Unlucky, Guessand.
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Is Ollie playing?
has he touched the ball?
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Stick on Guessands head...leave his feet.
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Guessand is the laziest footballer i have seen at this level ever.
Fixed.
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Time to sub a sub me thinks.....oh hang on we can't we have no back up
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Unlucky Guessand.
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Been a decent game, i'd prefer it was shit and we were winning mind.
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I fucking hate January.
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Tarkowski looks like Alfred E. Neumann
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Painful watch, this.
Will be one of our best (or most important) wins if we do it with the amount of players now missing.
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Guessand allows himself to be marked out of a game because he stands between two opposition players with not quite enough space to receive a pass from a fellow player.
I cannot work him out.
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Football is shit these days. Pointless any club having a gym, pointless players having any muscle....you can't have a battle against one another for falling to the ground.
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Fair play Everton they played well that half
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Fair play Everton they played well that half
Which bit?
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That was fucking wank
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I thought the tactics were spot on until SJM went off. We were dominating..
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SJM out for ages + Kamara would be season over in terms of titles and cups wouldn’t it.
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That was wretched, Everton were the better side. Need a big improvement.
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Every single time results go our way and the players know it we turn into a side that can't string three passes together. That was a dire first half.
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McGinn injury totally shook us and we haven’t recovered - we were in total control before that.
Perfect game to bring Malen on second half ffs.
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Guessand allows himself to be marked out of a game because he stands between two opposition players with not quite enough space to receive a pass from a fellow player.
I cannot work him out.
Let me help you. He's not very good.
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This is fucking horrible.
McGinn injury has killed us. We need to regroup and for unai to work his magic.
Konsa…what the fuck are you doing mate ? You are allows to pass you know
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Was that our crap half?
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Was that our crap half?
I hope so. Imagine if that was the good one?
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SJM big loss but overall the squad now looks thin again with injuries and Malen going. Unimpressive since SJM went off against a team which also has a number of players injured.
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Guessand allows himself to be marked out of a game because he stands between two opposition players with not quite enough space to receive a pass from a fellow player.
I cannot work him out.
Let me help you. He's not very good.
Why thank you!
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Was that our crap half?
I really hope so
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All good. We'll just use our strength in depth from the bench and blow them away in the second half.
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Well, that was pretty shite. Hopefully 2nd half we up the tempo. Massive opportunity today, we'll kick ourselves if we pee it up the wall...
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Guessand really unlucky with the header, would've been a cracking goal. Maybe we should stick him up top and launch it to his head, cos he sure as shit can't kick a ball.
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Every single time results go our way and the players know it we turn into a side that can't string three passes together. That was a dire first half.
sometiles its best to play first Saturday morning
we wasnt good but Rogers had 3 chances and a long shot hit and Evann hit the bar so could have had a few.
Watkins just hasnt been in the game and Buendia needs a kick up the ass .
Bogarde is pretty good .
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Mings for Pau and a kick up the arse for Buendia.
Hopefully that was our conservative half.
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All good. We'll just use our strength in depth from the bench and blow them away in the second half.
Not a risky decision though.
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Pretty slopy all around
I like Bogarde, but he gave the ball away so many times
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Literally the only sub option I can think of is Maatsen.to play further forward ahead of Digne. So frustrating. Watkins needs to get more involved but can't remember too many through balls to him.
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62% possession. 100 passes more than them.
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It’s probably been answered earlier but where is sancho ?
Have we been able to send him back ?
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Guessand allows himself to be marked out of a game because he stands between two opposition players with not quite enough space to receive a pass from a fellow player. I cannot work him out.
He's a terrible footballer, it's pretty evident. Tactically inept is him in a nutshell.
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62% possession. 100 passes more than them.
Mostly between Martinez and Konsa though
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We're going to struggle in every game with both McGinn and Kamara injured. No control in midfield.
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Imagine how happy we'd be if we were currently second.
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We are in a bit of mess with midfield wiped out. Will do well to get anything out of this match.
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Cash trying to get the crowd up...too busy sucking on their Werthers.
It’s a dark and cold Sunday evening and people have work tomorrow. It’s a shitty time for a football match.
It was too cold last time.
People always have work the next day.
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Disapointing. Not having grip on midfield. Hopefully we do them last 30 minutes. Lacking experienced player in midfield does not help, but Geussand showed some bits anyhow.
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Flat atmosphere, flat performance.
It is so difficult to cope with this many out. We know the impact Bouba's absence has but McGinn is critical in games like this because he is an out ball who we can use to play off and get up the pitch beyond their press.
We need to find a way of sneaking it, preferably in a way that gives Guessand a massive hit of confidence because it looks like he will be playing a lot.
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Imagine how happy we'd be if we were currently second.
This thread is about this specific 45 mins of football through innit.
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Imagine how happy we'd be if we were currently second.
That will never catch on
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You'll never guess who has just scored for Roma...
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The squad suddenly looks threadbare.
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Rogers had some decent chances which he should have done better with. Everton picking off plenty of lazy balls played from out centre halves, mostly Konsa.
Might have been better bringing Digne on for McGinn, pushing Maatsen further forward. I’d like to see Jimoh Aloba at some point but doubt it’ll happen.
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Does Sancho have a hurty leg or a sniffle? We need the fucker, right here right now
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Need more from Ollie, Rogers and Buendia, up the tempo of the passing and movement in their half. I worry about Torres in the air, if I was their manager, that's the weakness I'd be exploiting. Like the look of Garner. Crisper passing in the final third please Villa.
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Feels very much like roughly the same time last year when we kept getting a defender injured every week and our form collapsed, albeit with midfielders rather than defenders this time.
Luckily we started in a much better position pre-injury crisis so still have a decent chance of top five, but I think title is going to be a stretch with no midfield.
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malen just scored for roma
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You'll never guess who has just scored for Roma...
Disallowed. Typical anti-Villa (on loan) bias...
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You'll never guess who has just scored for Roma...
Guiseppe Giannini?
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malen ' disallowed'
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Why are they interviewing Tarkowski at half time? Does he not have a match to worry about?
Guessand. Lord, why have you forsaken us? He can obviously head a ball. Everything else is well, well below standard. Speed, strength, technique, work ethic. What does he offer? Shambolic waste of money.
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Malen has scored again, maybe this won't be disallowed.
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You'll never guess who has just scored for Roma...
Classic.
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It’s very unlucky to have 4 centre mids out - but the lack of any attacking options is on us.
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I could score against Torino, I just won't lower myself to playing at such a shit standard.
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It’s very unlucky to have 4 centre mids out - but the lack of any attacking options is on us.
Yep.
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This is title ground. Win, it’s on. Draw nah.
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Rockford Files booked.
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It’s very unlucky to have 4 centre mids out - but the lack of any attacking options is on us.
Yeah, I agree with this.
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what a shite free kick
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They’re not the same team with McGinn off.
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COYM!!
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Ollie is so predictable...and Buendia still thinks he has Bolts pace.
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Feels very much like roughly the same time last year when we kept getting a defender injured every week and our form collapsed, albeit with midfielders rather than defenders this time.
Luckily we started in a much better position pre-injury crisis so still have a decent chance of top five, but I think title is going to be a stretch with no midfield.
This is the thing that's going to fuck us. If it was a defender here and a midfielder there getting injured, we could cope. But four injuries in one bloody position... Our luck is shit.
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We need to somehow grind out a win here and hope some reinforcements arrive soon.
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Really though Watkins would have a stormer now that Malen isn't bothering him
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You can tell Everton fancy this
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We somehow need to grind out a win. Would-be champions find a way.
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We're playing like slugs, slugs with no personality.
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Maatsen that was shit but please don’t lose your confidence
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They fancy it more than Villa do!
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Watkins having a nightmare today. Malen anyone?
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Everton’s injuries are far worse than ours.
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Ollie has been awful which means Im expecting him to score
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Grealish you ******
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I’m still gutted with Don leaving. He’s scores for Roma.
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Rodgers doesn't like releasing the ball today does he.
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Garner should have a goal and a red card.
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How the fuck is that a yellow
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Rodgers doesn't like releasing the ball today does he.
Watkins didn't help with his run though
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Terrible decision, he shoved him in back.
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another useless ref
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Garner should be off. Why doesn't var look at that?
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Garner should be off
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That was a clear foul by garner
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Everton score
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How did the ref not see two hands on Rogers back pushing him over.
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Losing.
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Bollox!
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What the fuck are we playing at
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A defensive fuck up just for a change.
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Bottling it
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We do not remotely look like scoring.
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It’s all just so Villa.
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We didn't look like scoring one let alone two.
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What a shit goal to give away...sums up the day from start to finish.
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Utterly useless ref - foul on Rogers was clear
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super super torres
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This is our Sheffield United game isn’t it.
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I've had a bad feeling about this game all day. Fuck off.
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FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!!
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Players on yellows don't get sent off against us, come on peeps we all know this. Unlimited blatant fouls baby!
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Bollocks
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Poor all round - Martinez should hold that
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Threadbare squad. Chance to consolidate in top position. We fuck it. Very villa
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And there you go - but don’t worry it was a good call selling our only attacking option.
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So Aston Villa to do this to us
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Fucking pathetic from both Torres and Martinez.
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We’ll win.
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Very, very Villa performance. Just when we need to do something we fuck it up again.
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Blues today. Poor recruitment not helping at all.
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Given the ref gave a free kick for a 2handed shove by Maatsen a few minutes earlier that was an awful non-decision.
Then what a shit goal to concede, Emi needed to do better and a really bad mistake by Pau.
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If Villa have a chance to do something good like win a cup or go second they just don’t do it.
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I'd take a draw now.
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Hard to fault the players. We're playing with a gaping hole in midfield and it's nobbled our usual game plan completely.
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So predictable.
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We’ve been fucking rubbish today.
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Absolute bottle jobs!!!! Again!!! Fucks sake!!!
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Not the first bit of sloppiness from Torres today
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Shambles, fucking pair of dickheads.
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Absolutely careless, shocking, disgusting and lazy. Unacceptable. Disgraceful and appalling.
Abhorrent.
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We’ll win.
Not convinced
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Can't believe that donkey scored against us.
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Garner with a handball .Not given
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Could really have done with Watkins not having an absolutely atrocious game today.
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I said Pau should be hooked at ht. Emery should have seen he's miles off it.
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If Villa have a chance to do something good like win a cup or go second they just don’t do it.
This. Nosebleeds at the top again. Plus losing Malen. Utter nonsense
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We've got one striker - who doesn't look like a footballer so far today. Didn't have to sell Malen before the weekend, did we?
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As soon as United scored against City yesterday it was written that we'd bottle today.
In all seriousness it's startling how poor we are without Bouba.
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Could really have done with Watkins not having an absolutely atrocious game today.
That’s the thing when there’s absolutely nothing on the bench to replace him with.
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I expect Emery to go full Glasner at the final whistle.
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Get Malen on.
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Poor goal to concede but it’s been coming, we’ve not recovered from McGinn going off.
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The problem now is we have no players for Unai to weave his magic
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I expect Emery to go full Glasner at the final whistle.
he should do too - he's not been supported enough by the people behind the scenes.... Sancho, Guessand and Elliott in just isn't good enough
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I said Pau should be hooked at ht. Emery should have seen he's miles off it.
Yeah, it was pretty clear. Been losing duels all game. This was a do not concede game of football and Lindelof is more robust.
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Have to get a couple of the kids on and hope for a miracle. Keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome in madness.
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This is absolutely perfect for Everton. They’ll likely score on the break.
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Watkins off Malen on pl...oh hang on.
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Pau is all over the shop today.
Letting Malen go without a replacement lined up is looking a very poor decision.
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Commentators said early first half that Vila had some "carelessness about them". Might be something there that do cost us but they were lucky with their goal. Lets do a 2-1 again.
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Fuck was that Rogers.
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Enough problems in the centre of the park without Pau and Martinez re enacting 24/25's comedy double act routine.
Shite from the pair of 'em.
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I expect Emery to go full Glasner at the final whistle.
he should do too - he's not been supported enough by the people behind the scenes.... Sancho, Guessand and Elliott in just isn't good enough
It’s all we’re allowed to spend.
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Rogers has had some very decent chances today but fluffed them all.
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Bogarde, Guessand and Buendia are crap.
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We’ll win.
Hope so otherwise risking the first team in the cup will come back to bite us in the ass big time.
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Rogers has had some very decent chances today but fluffed them all.
Hold on to the ball too much
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Not a chance we’re scoring here.
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Rogers has had some very decent chances today but fluffed them all.
Tuchel watching and all
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How many teams get half of their midfield knobbled in 8 days...? :'(
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Fucking hell Rogers
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Rohl should've been booked there, that was nasty on Maatsens achilles.
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One of those games we could play all day and not score
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What is wrong with Rogers today?
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More shite from Rodgers.
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Buendia to step up.
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George and Digne coming on
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The curse of Manager of the Month.
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Surely we would have been better off using Elliot through this period and while we’re waiting to get players in!
I mean don’t we have 4 games before the clause was activated? We are paying his wages after all and clearly Liverpool aren’t going to agree to a recall.
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FUCKING HELL ROGERS!!!
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Why can't Rogers shoot today?
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What's wrong with Rogers?
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Not sure I'd be taking Maatsen off
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Feels like one of those days when we could have prime Messi and Pele and still not score.
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Lev fucking Yashin again.
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Not sure I'd be taking Maatsen off
Yeah he's been our main attacking threat.
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Ian and Bogey off
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Brilliant shot and save
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At least we are looking a bit more like it last few minutes.
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Maatsen our best performer
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Great effort Rogers.
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Don’t agree with Maatsen going off at all.
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Or bogarde
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Big 15 minutes. If we can't win, we need to at least get a point.
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Why take Maatsen off?! He was the best player on the pitch.
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Don’t agree with Maatsen going off at all.
Looks like a planned sub. But yeah, I thought he was carrying a big chunk of our attacking threat
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It's Rogers or nothing...no one else dares to step up.
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We've barely won anything in the air in their box yet we keep lumping it in.
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Why take Maatsen off?! He was the best player on the pitch.
Yep don’t understand that one.
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Hemmings looking promising.
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Watkins has been absolutely anonymous in this game. Total no show.
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First impressioms, I like the loook of Hemmings.
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Losing at home to dross and we have voluntarily to have no senior striker on the bench to change it.
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Stick guessand up front can’t do much worse
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Guessand just doesn't get it
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Has the red lost his whistle
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How many crosses from the right have been pulled back to no one?
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It Matty meant to do that.. wow.
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Losing at home to dross and we have voluntarily to have no senior striker on the bench to change it.
Yes but you can’t blame the club, blame the cheats who run the league
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Right now, some Championship chasing teams would being on a Federico Macheda.
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Grealish you pig nosed ******.
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Get Jimoh on.
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Grealish you pig nosed ******.
Used to love it when he did it for us
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Aston Villa 0-1 Everton
Everton had won just one of their previous seven games and gone out of the FA Cup early.
Yes, it's been a scratchy Aston Villa display but this has been mightily impressive by the Toffees.
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Guessand just doesn't get it
He isn't responsive enough
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Guessand just stands still
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Losing at home to dross and we have voluntarily to have no senior striker on the bench to change it.
This was the game I feared for months.
This is the game you need a goalscoring striker.
Where the fuck is he?
Come on Ollie where are you?
Shite.
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Losing at home to dross and we have voluntarily to have no senior striker on the bench to change it.
Yes but you can’t blame the club, blame the cheats who run the league
I dunno, I think most clubs wouldn’t let a key player leave until they had a direct replacement sorted.
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This is going back to the first four games level of performances.
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WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING MAN!!!!
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Losing at home to dross and we have voluntarily to have no senior striker on the bench to change it.
Yes but you can’t blame the club, blame the cheats who run the league
I dunno, I think most clubs wouldn’t let a key player leave until they had a direct replacement sorted.
Correct. It was sheer madness to let it happen.
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I am absolutely furious about this performance today.
Totally insipid, pathetic. No desire. Weak. Out muscled.
Too many anonymous players. And I’m even more furious that we sold our only other senior striker who could have made a difference today.
Pathetic across the board.
Not good enough.
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Guessand just stands still
He is absloutely fucking clueless.
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Forgot Ollie was on the pitch. Time to replace him with...oh...
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Too many sub standard performances
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As bad as Guessand is, he's done more than Watkins.
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We will not score today - awful
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Has Guessand actually touched the ball this half?
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We look like we could play all night without scoring. Also United dis against ten at old Traffy.
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We look like we could play all night without scoring. Also United did against ten at old Traffy.
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Rubbish, Villa!
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Has Guessand actually touched the ball this half?
YEah he just headed it out for a goal kick....GOOD PLAYER!
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Past Ollie's bedtime.
Would've usually been subbed off by now.
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going on about how good garner has been (and to be fair he has) - but he should have been sent of when it was 0-0. Ref bottled it
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Looks like the Malen gamble hasn’t paid off. Oh well onwards and upwards
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4 added mins
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You can bet your arse I'm bumping the Watkins thread after this horrorshow.
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we've gone back to having a limited squad - at the wrong time.
Feel that we've mis-managed this now.
We should have been adding to what we had.
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Guessand just stands still
Normally you want to give a player time but I can't see anything good about him overall
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going on about how good garner has been (and to be fair he has) - but he should have been sent of when it was 0-0. Ref bottled it
He hardly bottled it he didn’t even give a free kick!
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I guess Malen's replacement was Guessand coming back from AFCON. But, he didn't see McGinn leaving that early.
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You can bet your arse I'm bumping the Watkins thread after this horrorshow.
He's had f*** all to play with
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going on about how good garner has been (and to be fair he has) - but he should have been sent of when it was 0-0. Ref bottled it
He hardly bottled it he didn’t even give a free kick!
well yeah - but it was a clear foul and would have been a yellow
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Crap performance, crap atmosphere.
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Watkins has been a passenger.
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If we had shown this effort from the first minute this would probably never had happened. Time to get rid of this walking football.
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It is a bit strange that we plötslich look that without belief and clue at home. Experienced players missing probably explain some of it.
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Guessand just stands still
Normally you want to give a player time but I can't see anything good about him overall
Nope. He doesn’t have a single attribute. Terrible signing.
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going on about how good garner has been (and to be fair he has) - but he should have been sent of when it was 0-0. Ref bottled it
AIUI VAR have no jurisdiction about free kicks, only penalties. Perhaps they should be allowed to adjudge on possible fouls outside the box in clear goal-scoring opportunities
Meanwhile, Garner is Chris Sutton's POTM
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If we had shown this effort from the first minute this would probably never had happened. Time to get rid of this walking football.
Yeah, down with the style of play which has us languishing in *checks table* third.
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Looks like the Malen gamble hasn’t paid off. Oh well onwards and upwards
It’s a gamble if you let an effective player leave and immediately replace him with a new player.
Not replacing him is an act of self-harm.
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First poor league result for 4 months, it happens.
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Woeful all over the pitch today.
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Ref gives them a free kick for a dubious push
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You can bet your arse I'm bumping the Watkins thread after this horrorshow.
He's had f*** all to play with
But he also contributes in other ways doesn't he? Has he done that today?
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You can bet your arse I'm bumping the Watkins thread after this horrorshow.
He's had f*** all to play with
So you get involved.You harry.You chase.
He did nothing
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We’re not allowed to spend any money.
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Guessand just stands still
Normally you want to give a player time but I can't see anything good about him overall
Many on here have been despearate to give him the benefit of the doubt all season but we have to face facts, he is completely substandard.
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Wonder if we agreed to sell Malen because we thought the Gallagher deal was just about in the bag.
Daft, if so.
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And it always happens at a critical moment.
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The thing is Everton are rubbish.
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First poor league result for 4 months, it happens.
First time we decided to sabotage ourselves before a game, it was bound to happen.
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What's the point of the fouling
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One thing, hopefully none of our squad will have their summer holiday disturbed with what Tuchel has seen Rodger’s and Watkins today.
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We "somehow" need some better players when we have 3 centre mids out.
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Heads went about 20 minutes ago. Been poor. Looks like pressure to me.
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The thing is Everton are rubbish.
And that's being generous
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Well that was shit.
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Guessand has had his last chsnce for me. Get rid.
Absolutely dire performance and losing McGinn just tops it off.
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Such an old school Villa performance. Pissed off. We sure need some signings and some people coming back from injury.
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Rumours we might be in for Mateta.
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Need that Asensio/ Rashford signing again. Everything creative can't always go through Rogers.
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Guessand has had his last chsnce for me. Get rid.
Absolutely dire performance and losing McGinn just tops it off.
Why go after Guessand before Watkins? He at least came very close to scoring.
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Need that Asensio/ Rashford signing again. Everything creative can't always go through Rogers.
Yeah, ideally just before the Palace game.
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Awful. Ok, McGinn going off threw us, but that was shit.
Nothing to bring on off the bench that would change the game. I hope we get some players in.
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Rumours we might be in for Mateta.
He's agreed terms with Juve.
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Crap performance, crap atmosphere.
If we can't 'get up' for a big game like this what hope have we
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Guessand has had his last chsnce for me. Get rid.
Absolutely dire performance and losing McGinn just tops it off.
Why go after Guessand before Watkins? He at least came very close to scoring.
They were both awful.
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Crap performance, crap atmosphere.
If we can't 'get up' for a big game like this what hope have we
Becoming predictable at the mo that.