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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Tuscans on September 16, 2025, 07:01:05 PM
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Some debuts and the first goals of the season will come tonight. I can feel it.
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Why not.
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Happy enough with that team
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Bouba back on bench is good.
Attacking line up.
Let's go Villa kick start the season tonight
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Happy with that with the added bonus of Bouba on the bench.
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Pretty strong team, happy with that.
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Great to see Kamara back and as expected lots of changes. It'll be interesting to see how Elliott and especially Sancho does.
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Have Brentford rested many?
Missing from our squad entirely:
Martínez
García
Lindelof (surprisingly)
Onana
Tielemans
Barkley
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All change for Brentford. Like it, good to see Bouba back, and Borland in the squad.
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Can moderators sticky this thread and unsticky the pre-match one, please. We already lost to Brentford once when they didn't do that.
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Garcia still injured?
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And merge the two match threads, please...
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Good team. Go and win! Score a goal!
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Why not.
Indeed. It isn't kids, it's a 1st team that we could be fielding at any stage this season.
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Persona non Garcia.
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exactly the team he should be playing. Im happy he has.
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Good to see Kamara back on the bench.
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who is Aidan Borland please ?
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who is Aidan Borland please ?
18 year old midfielder
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The side is more than able to score goals and win this game. I’m more interested in how we approach this tactically. We have to be on them from the start. Take the game to them vs sit back. Get a few goals, win the game and use this as a platform to head into the weekend and a tough game at Sunderland.
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are we wearing that 3rd white kit . looked like it with the Malen interview.
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who is Aidan Borland please ?
18 year old midfielder
He's not particularly good. I'd rate him as a C++
(one for the ageing geeks, there)
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are we wearing that 3rd white kit . looked like it with the Malen interview.
No, black
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are we wearing that 3rd white kit . looked like it with the Malen interview.
From the official team graphic I would imagine it is the black kit
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C'mon Villa.
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exactly the team he should be playing. Im happy he has.
That’s jinxed it 😂
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No issues with that side at all, really positive!
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Threads fixed. We are going to win, now.
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Ads wasnt far off from calling this team. Im happy with that its a opportunity for alot of them to show what they can do and knock on door for starting spot
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Hopefully the season starts here...
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Any tips of where to find a nice small river would be much appreciated.
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Any tips of where to find a nice small river would be much appreciated.
I feel like we might as dry as the Po in January for this one...
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Fairly strong team, although unsurprisingly resting Watkins, Rogers and Martinez.
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FTF 8)
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Fairly strong team, although unsurprisingly resting Watkins, Rogers and Martinez.
Resting or dropping? 😏
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FTF 8)
As long as Ollie ain't a fcuker.
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There’s a lot of high optimism on this match thread
It won’t last long
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Any tips of where to find a nice small river would be much appreciated.
I feel like we might as dry as the Po in January for this one...
It's on Sky so there are plenty about. I can't find one though.
Any of the mandem want to hook me up? Big up.
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Keep the faith. Up the Villa!
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A 2-1 defeat would feel like a breakthrough of sorts
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are we wearing that 3rd white kit . looked like it with the Malen interview.
No, black
oh well , just fancied seeing what he looks like on the players , the black is boring.
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7 hours 47 mins ..wow
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No VAR tonight
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Sancho looks like he's carrying a bit of timber.
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Happy with the team. Hope the tactics have been tweeked as well otherwise it could be same old.
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A SHOT
FUCK ME
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2nd minute already a shot on target!
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cash should have played aforward ball to guessand then
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who is Aidan Borland please ?
18 year old midfielder
He's not particularly good. I'd rate him as a C++
(one for the ageing geeks, there)
Probably looks good on compilations :)
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Fingers crossed we turn up tonight
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who is Aidan Borland please ?
18 year old midfielder
He's not particularly good. I'd rate him as a C++
(one for the ageing geeks, there)
Probably looks good on compilations :)
RESPECT
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Their fans make Everton seem sane.
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Sancho looks like he's carrying a bit of timber.
really , thought he was in spain playing for arse .
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who is Aidan Borland please ?
18 year old midfielder
He's not particularly good. I'd rate him as a C++
(one for the ageing geeks, there)
Probably looks good on compilations :)
RESPECT
8)
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Its like a villa home game. Started brightly
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Its like a villa home game. Started brightly
Make your mind up.
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Its like a villa home game. Started brightly
Make your mind up.
Huh? You are aware thats my first post about the game 😂
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Yes I think he meant that your two sentences are in direct opposition.
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is 8 hours a record?
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I’m probably tempting fate but Sancho looks useful
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We’re still not fluid or convincing. We desperately need a goal just to get that monkey off our back and help us relax. All a bit frantic.
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Good defending by maatsen
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This seems reasonably decent so far.
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I’m probably tempting fate but Sancho looks useful
I agree .. hes doing ok.
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We’re still not fluid or convincing. We desperately need a goal just to get that monkey off our back and help us relax. All a bit frantic.
Agreed, but there is the outline of a way forward here with some of these players. There is more pace in this team than the plodding lineup on Saturday.
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is 8 hours a record?
I seem to remember Paul Lambert definitely went over 9 hours but it’s somewhat surprising to find Emery running him so close.
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is 8 hours a record?
Didn’t we go something like 9 games without scoring under Big Ron?
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More than decent start - now all we need is one of those goal thingys my grandad told me about.
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And here come Brentford.
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Keeping the ball OK, but this is like watching a pre-season friendly at times.
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I’m probably tempting fate but Sancho looks useful
I agree .. hes doing ok.
You pair must be easily pleased
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is 8 hours a record?
Didn’t we go something like 9 games without scoring under Big Ron?
Early 1991 I recall the desperation of Martin Carruthers ballooning a sitter over the bar from 4 yards... home to Oldham i think.
Seems weve moved on from that but we finished 7th that year!
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Great save Bizot
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bizot does an Emi
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Brilliant bizot
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is 8 hours a record?
Didn’t we go something like 9 games without scoring under Big Ron?
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1. Then we scored 5 at Spurs.
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See how faster Brentford move the ball in the final third.
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I’m probably tempting fate but Sancho looks useful
I agree .. hes doing ok.
You pair must be easily pleased
Ive had a season of leon bailey
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is 8 hours a record?
Didn’t we go something like 9 games without scoring under Big Ron?
Early 1991 I recall the desperation of Martin Carruthers ballooning a sitter over the bar from 4 yards... home to Oldham i think.
Seems weve moved on from that but we finished 7th that year!
Early 92 sorry... it was 5 league games
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Brentford back in it now
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Silly challenge by Guessand gets him a yellow
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is 8 hours a record?
Didn’t we go something like 9 games without scoring under Big Ron?
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1. Then we scored 5 at Spurs.
Morse Code blown to bits in North London.
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It’s possible Kamara’s goal is the last one we will ever score. A trivia question for our kids kids. If they even play trivia games in the future.
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Silly challenge evann come on
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Too easy for them at the moment
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looks like pens.
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We are playing okayish, but still look like we've no energy about us.
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So slow in our build up. Why can't we play with more intent and get at them with more speed?
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In the Emery era, I’ve nene seen this devoid of creativity in the final third of the pitch. And I never thought I would.
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How often are we turning teams around these days
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My word we are poor
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We are playing okayish, but still look like we've no energy about us.
It’s got to be confidence.
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We seem slow even compared to their second 11.
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think were moving it quicker - pau helping it - look fairly bright - but game is bypassing our midfield
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0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1. Then we scored 5 at Spurs.
I got the C++ and compilation jokes but that one's lost me.
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It appears if you fall over this ref will give you a free kick
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Created virtually nothing in opening 30 mins.
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think were moving it quicker - pau helping it - look fairly bright - but game is bypassing our midfield
What midfield?
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Sancho seems to be popping up all over the place. Maybe he's been given the freedom of rogers. just need to get him on the ball more
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It’s like we are thinking too much. All too deliberate and predictable. Easy for the opposition to work out what we are doing. Our positioning is slow more than it just being about raw pace.
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Should we not have had a pen, then?
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The gameplan is the constant in all this.
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Maybe not.
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It appears if you fall over this ref will give you a free kick
Didn't work when Sancho got round Hickey and got pulled back.
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So slow in our build up. Why can't we play with more intent and get at them with more speed?
Seen tortoises move quicker
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Seen pens given for that.
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We need some of those arrow signs.
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Same shit, different day. The long ball is all we have.
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Wow, a shot on target!!
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Absolute rubbish so far
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looks like pens.
I'd fancy us to score at least one. Build from there.
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A shot on target!
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Hey, we've had a shot. I didn't realise that was in the game plan.
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We are not scoring tonignt
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Its going to be a long season if this continues
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Anything good on?
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That was a waste by Maatsen when he took a shot, there were better options.
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Its going to be a long season if this continues
Not in the League Cup.
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Christ, it's so fucking boring.
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What time do we kick off?
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we need to make these fucking bug fuck off centre halves turning
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Just can’t take your eyes off another riveting performance tonight.
In truth, it looks like both teams wouldn’t mind being knocked out of this cup.
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wtf is maatsen playing at
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cant no fcuker control a ball
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From an attacking point of view we are woeful
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Tedious.
Very noticeable how every time Malen loses the ball, he just stands and watches
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great work by sancho slowing the move down to 0mph to take the momentum out the attack >:(
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We are not scoring tonignt
And by "tonight", we of course mean "this side of the next ice age".
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bogarde shoot not pass
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Tedious.
Very noticeable how every time Malen loses the ball, he just stands and watches
Which I suspect is why he's not played more.
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Guessand and malen look like cereal and steak playing together
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This is grim.
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Our front 3 probably on the best part of half a mill a week combined and can’t create a fucking chance between them
Crap
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Tedious.
Very noticeable how every time Malen loses the ball, he just stands and watches
I just thought the same thing.
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Cash….wanker.
Tripped himself up,twice and then claims a pen.
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Perhaps we should have started with the penalties and forget the bit before?
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got to be a pen
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Malen is gash
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On the plus side maatsen and Sancho look like they have the makings
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maybe not
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Guessand and malen look like cereal and steak playing together
Is this the new chalk and cheese?
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Anything good on?
Elizabeth is on Film4 at 9pm if you want to relive our Golden Age.
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Comical cash
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This is dire. Guessand looks especially poor.
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FAINTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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What has just happened?
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Guessand seems to have a poor first touch.
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Gooooaaaaalllll
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A GOAL!!!!!!!
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It’s one of them goal thingys!
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SGORIO......we did it, we're the fucking best
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Get in!
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A Goal!!!
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G O A L!
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We have scored a goal
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I don’t believe it
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what was that 😳😳😳😳😳😳😃
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Goooooooooooal
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Rubbish defending, rubbish goalkeeping, we needed that.
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goooalllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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Good grief!
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What happens now?
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Wtf
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What was that?? Don't understand
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HEYYYY!!!
We scored a goalty!!!
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Great stuff Harvey!
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At last.
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Great turnover from McGinn. They all count!
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That's all about McGinn that goal. That's how you fucking press, with puropse.
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What happens now?
It’ll never catch on.
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Exactly the sort of goal we needed, piss poor defending and awful from the keeper.
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Good time to score as well. Only 20 minutes to go in this half!
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Off for a lie down
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Yessssssss harvey!!!!
Get in !!!
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What happens now?
hopefully this twatty opposition will now have to come at us a little bit and leave more space.
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A go for a shit and we score. Typical. I’m going to order a massive bucket of KFC see if I can help the goals to flow.
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Im pissing myself.. he dont even hit it well and goes in
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What happens now?
Universe collapses in on itself, I'm afraid. Nice knowing you.
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That's all about McGinn that goal. That's how you fucking press, with puropse.
Precisely
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A goal!! a real goal!!! Ive finally seen one!!
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After 43 minutes is the answer.
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What happens now?
We shit ourselves, sit back, try and defend and lose 2-1.
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We're allowed to DO that?!?
In all seriousness...pressing...seems...good?
Also, we finally scored a goal and it was a gigantic fucking double-blunder and I've decided not to think about this.
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What happens now?
We tell the referee to end the game or else we beat him up
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Im pissing myself.. he dont even hit it well and goes in
This is why take the shots on and hit the target is important when you're in a bad run.
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It's standing isn't it? It's not been disallowed has it? Has it?
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A GOAL!!!!!!!
TBF it was coming.
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WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE LEAGUE.
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A go for a shit and we score. Typical. I’m going to order a massive bucket of KFC see if I can help the goals to flow.
If you eat the whole bucket, it will certainly help the shit flow.
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Good time to score as well. Only 20 minutes to go in this half!
Huh?
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Keith Andrews looking like a south London estate agent on a late winter break in Marbella, the ******.
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If he'd hit that better the keeper wouldn't have made such a mess of it.
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Be the black shirt of delight tonight.
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Is that it now ? Are we through to the next round ?
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For me that's a more dangerous challenge on Bogarde than the one Guessand got booked for.
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Goal makes up for the decision not to award a penalty for the clear trip on Matty Cash.
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Keith Andrews looking like a south London estate agent on a late winter break in Marbella, the ******.
He is a deeply unlikeable git isn't he.
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Well done Mcginn for chasing it down, you watching Ollie
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We needed that. It dont matter how the fuck it goes in as we needed a goal. Hopefully lift off now
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
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First touch in and around the box is shocking. Malen, Guessand especially.
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Hear me out now lads, maybe we could do... TWO GOALS?
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
I’d just said as we scored , but his first touch is really poor.
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Im pissing myself.. he dont even hit it well and goes in
This is why take the shots on and hit the target is important when you're in a bad run.
exactly and you knew this is how our first goal would go in .
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Malen’s first touch is terrible
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
How much did we pay for him? He turns slower than an oil tanker. Jeez.
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
He hasnt impressed at all. His touch has been awful
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Malen’s first touch is terrible
And there is no second touch, because after the shit first one, he stands there staring into space.
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
Far to early to write him off
But he is rubbish
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Half time.
I must say, Bogarde has been very impressive.
Maatsen has been decent.
Sancho hasn’t been wasteful
Malen and Guessard, I think Malen just shades it for being the crappest of the two, but it’s close.
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
Far to early to write him off
But he is rubbish
Haha. Made me laugh.
First 40 mins absolute toss. Again. Let's see if the goal (!) makes a difference to the overall confidence levels.
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Hear me out now lads, maybe we could do... TWO GOALS?
Slow down! Lets see if we can at least do a good set piece first 😉
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
Agreed...he is a dud.
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Hear me out now lads, maybe we could do... TWO GOALS?
What sorcery is this you speak?
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We were better that half than we have been so far this season without quite clicking but the goal is huge and will help us a lot. McGinn and Bogarde have been very good.
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I think Guessand running with it is the only thing that has got us up the pitch.
Now if we could have a goalkeeper throw one in every game, we might win a cup and not get relegated.
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Bogarde's energy in CM is good.
and a Goal - fucking hell, ambassador you're really spoiling us.
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Hear me out now lads, maybe we could do... TWO GOALS?
I doubt their keeper will thow two into the net.
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
Far to early to write him off
But he is rubbish
Haha. Made me laugh.
Yeah, and me, very good.
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McGinn and Elliot the pick
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That's just what we needed.
Impressed with Elliot, tracking right back just before HT.
Guessand looks like a baby giraffe, all legs, toppling over and a terrible touch.
Marlon poor, Sancho meh.
We haven't been bad but just nothing in that final third. Hopefully we have that bit of confidence now.
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Garry Thompson
Former Aston Villa forward on BBC Radio 5 Live Extra
Judging this first half, you'd say Brentford deserve to be 1-0 up, but McGinn gets a great block in and Harvey Elliott gets his strike in.
Finally, all the jokes can stop now. Villa have got a goal!
Surely 0-0.
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Bogarde is doing okay, but I really hate him being part of the playing it out from the back when he’s facing his own goal. He’s guessing at what he should do with the ball.
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McGinn and Elliot the pick
Harsh, he's only been here a couple of weeks.
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Sorry to do this straight after a goal, but Guessand...I will be amazed if he makes it as a top level Premier League player. The technique is just not there and I've seen it in him every game. I know it's early, but I absolutely do not fancy him to do it.
Far to early to write him off
But he is rubbish
Haha. Made me laugh.
Yeah, and me, very good.
I've always felt John is, if you'll excuse the americanism, HNV's MVP.
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Still waiting for someone to get to the byline and put a decent cross in.
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McGinn and Elliot the pick
Harsh, he's only been here a couple of weeks.
Larf.
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Sancho doesn’t seem to know his role. Otherwise, promising…
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Always good to see Curtis 'Rabbit in the Headlights' Davies.
What a disappointment he was, i thought he'd be brilliant for us, but that debut hung around his neck for ages.
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Sancho doesn’t seem to know his role. Otherwise, promising…
he's not the only one
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two pens then If VAR - typical
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Half time.
I must say, Bogarde has been very impressive.
Maatsen has been decent.
Sancho hasn’t been wasteful
Malen and Guessard, I think Malen just shades it for being the crappest of the two, but it’s close.
Think McGinn has been good, Pau has also been good too. Without ever really looking particularly good as a team.
Turns out 2 clear pens too ;-)
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McGinn and Elliot the pick
Had to read that twice!
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Not sure how we didn’t get at least one pen
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standard of refereeing is lower than our forward play - remarkably.
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That's just what we needed.
Impressed with Elliot, tracking right back just before HT.
Guessand looks like a baby giraffe, all legs, toppling over and a terrible touch.
Marlon poor, Sancho meh.
We haven't been bad but just nothing in that final third. Hopefully we have that bit of confidence now.
Guessand is like a puppy chasing a balloon.
Sancho is a cowardly footballer. He is too content to take 2 or 3 touches and roll it inside. We have too many of them already.
McGinn is at least leading by example.
Hopefully we can scramble a win against a very poor Brentford side.
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Looks like the ref owes us one after those penalty shout replays ...Need to see this out to get us back on track .
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Not sure how we didn’t get at least one pen
Ref waiting for VAR to inform him.
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So we should've had 2 penalties according to the pundits. The keeper tripped Guessand and Cash got tripped! Why didn't VAR send the ref to the monitor??
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A Malen goal would help - looks like he needs a bit of boost. Had a some very good contributions last season - but think he needs a few balls in behind
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two pens then If VAR - typical
The one of Guessand was clear for me, got a toe to the ball and then the keeper took him down, if he was running towards goal instead of away I reckon that gets given 9 times in 10. The Cash one was 50-50 because he was already stumbling so I can see why the ref wouldn't give it.
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Not sure how we didn’t get at least one pen
Ref waiting for VAR to inform him.
VAR should have informed him that he’s a blind ******
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Keith Andrews looking like a south London estate agent on a late winter break in Marbella, the ******.
He is a deeply unlikeable git isn't he.
Lovely fella apparently. My uncle gave him a lift back to Dublin a few years ago, he even invited my uncle in for tea and sandwiches with his folks.
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We needed that goal. Who scouted Guessand? Overall, disjointed, pedestrian and poor unfortunately.
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Hang on, is there no VAR?
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Elliot looks good..mcginn been good. Guessards been good but his touch has been pretty bad at times.
Malen non existent
Maybe we should swap positions guessand with malen
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Not sure how we didn’t get at least one pen
Ref waiting for VAR to inform him.
Apparently they didnt count as the ref had already blow for a percieved foul by rogers on the keeper
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Same one who scouted Malen it seems.
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Do they even have VAR in these rounds? I wouldn’t imagine Grimsby have the technology
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two pens then If VAR - typical
The one of Guessand was clear for me, got a toe to the ball and then the keeper took him down, if he was running towards goal instead of away I reckon that gets given 9 times in 10. The Cash one was 50-50 because he was already stumbling so I can see why the ref wouldn't give it.
still got clipped thou .. but should have had one at least.
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Guessand’s touch really poor but at least he like runs around tries, something to work with. Malen’s touch has been poor and he looks a bit lost or disinterested, not sure which one. Depends how much Emery wants to save Watkins legs, but probably be tempted to make the change fairly early in the second half.
I think the fact Sancho is wide is giving Brentford something to think about, bit on a couple of occasions he’s waited for Mastsen to overlap when he could of drove into the box, probably under instruction I guess. As he hasn’t had a pre season he’ll be blowing out of his arse by 60 mins, so might come off before Giessand.
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Hang on, is there no VAR?
Not until later in the competition (the final in this case), same as the FA cup. It used to be that they used it if they were at a ground where it was available but they've removed that inconsistency now.
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Seeing the goal again, Elliot hitting it early was just the right timing as he caught the keeper as he was trying to set himself.
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Guessand needs time to acclimatise. He looks like a ball of energy if nothing else.
I’d like to see Ollie get 30 mins and do what he does best. Score against Brentford.
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I've liked our shape out of possession. Maatsen adding more legs on left. Midfield two have been solid, centre backs ok too. Our attacking play, clueless really. Might be worth swapping Guessand & Malen and reminding them they can't get any worse. Other two have shown the occasional nice touch and movement.
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I would say out of the front 4 - I think Sancho looks the best so far. All have looked like they need games - but just his positioning adds something we havent had so far this season.
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I'd forgotten there's no VAR.
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Who knew that not waiting months to start a new signing could be a good thing.
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I've liked our shape out of possession. Maatsen adding more legs on left. Midfield two have been solid, centre backs ok too. Our attacking play, clueless really. Might be worth swapping Guessand & Malen and reminding them they can't get any worse. Other two have shown the occasional nice touch and movement.
Dear god we agree completely! There's no confidence about our movement up front but the setup looks solid and Maatsen is offering a lot of much-needed burst. Pleasing to see Bogarde and Pau looking decent after recent issues.
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Let's see how we are defending a lead. First chance this season.
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Keith Andrews rocking the same haircut as Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac.
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muat admit bogarde has played well.
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Not sure how we didn’t get at least one pen
No VAR and refs are conditioned not to give them now because of VAR.
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Compare Guessane to Outtara, we're they about the same money?
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Nearly 2!
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Post!
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muat admit bogarde has played well.
Been our best player tonight
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At last Cash plays the ball forward to Guessand.
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Nearly two. Better by for example.
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bad luck
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Pretty good from Guessand that time!
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Great forward ball by Cash and were unlucky not to score. This is better.
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This must be what it was like supporting Brazil '70.
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Seeing the goal again, Elliot hitting it early was just the right timing as he caught the keeper as he was trying to set himself.
We got lucky, it was an awful mistake from the keeper. Not complaining though!
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Thats the rustiness of sancho. Should have scored thag
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That's the sort of play Guessand needs, unlucky not to be 2.
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muat admit bogarde has played well.
Been our best player tonight
I thought he was the other day too. Works very hard and puts himself about. His distribution isn't always brilliant, but I like him.
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How long has Lindsey Buckingham been managing Brentford???
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Decent block from our number 4 there
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Keith Andrews rocking the same haircut as Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac.
Fortunately, my uncle didn't tell him "you can go your own way".
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Keith Andrews rocking the same haircut as Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac.
Jason Tindall mk 2
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We needed that goal. Who scouted Guessand? Overall, disjointed, pedestrian and poor unfortunately.
He’s no Bertrand Traore that’s for sure
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I shall give Guessand every chance but two words keep coming to mind - Soccer Aid.
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That's the sort of play Guessand needs, unlucky not to be 2.
to be fair to him hes done a couple of decent runs but cash went backwards.
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What was wrong with that tackle?
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Seeing the goal again, Elliot hitting it early was just the right timing as he caught the keeper as he was trying to set himself.
We got lucky, it was an awful mistake from the keeper. Not complaining though!
I'm not claming he meant it, but just happened to be at the right timing as his body weight was rising and so meant it was always going to struggle to get low fast from that stage.
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1-1
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Brentford score with their first shot.
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Fucking hell
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That's fucked it, no chance we'll score twice in a month.
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Not much we could do about that
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wtf
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Watch Malen during their goal
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Smith and the other prick of a commentator are really happy now.
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Bollocks.
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Ah the return to normality.
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Elliot asleep there but some strike.
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aint stopping that
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Ffs man seriously
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Smith and the other prick of a commentator are really happy now.
Lee Hendrie?
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We all know what happens now.
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Brentford score with their first shot.
6th shot, 2nd on target
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Oh great a wonder goal from nowhere almost
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We've been decent so far, despite their wonder goal i still feel we will win. Plus let's not forget the 2 pens denied in the first half
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Not much we could do about that
Actually I agree with that, just a big old Tony Pulis goal.
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Great hit tbf. Not as good as ours, but still decent.
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Nice strike but elliots was better
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Ball watching same as the Guehi goal for Palace
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Going to have to get Ollie on up front
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That came out of nowhere
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Brentford score with their first shot.
6th shot, 2nd on target
1st on target was a header, not a shot.
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If it goes to pens I'd bring Martinez off the bench for some grobbellar antics
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Nerves now coming back
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some of the players touch is terrible
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How is that not a yellow?
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Is it still considered a victory if we go out but scored our first goal of the season in our 5th game?
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If it goes to pens I'd bring Martinez off the bench for some grobbellar antics
That might be difficult.
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FFS Cash played the ball forward you prick!!
Last time he did that we nearly scored. He's got Gussand in front of him who thrives on those balls.
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Guessand is having a mare out there. Get him off.
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If it goes to pens I'd bring Martinez off the bench for some grobbellar antics
He's gonna have to leg it from the Midlands
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Wish we would stop fucking around with these free kicks.
So wasteful with them.
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Brentford score with their first shot.
6th shot, 2nd on target
Stop spoiling my moaning with facts.
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sancho wanted the 1 2 then
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Crap set piece
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If it goes to pens I'd bring Martinez off the bench for some grobbellar antics
He's gonna have to leg it from the Midlands
Good way to add extra pressure to be fair, if they have to wait for him to arrive.
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I'm sitting listening to a portly Spanish fella playing the guitar and he's just started a heavily accented rendition of Sweet Caroline.
It's clearly a sign.
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Sancho been decent second half. Difference in skill level with Guessand pretty stark
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This ref is a prick
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We’re playing Brentford reserves here
I know you could say the same about us but ours are very expensive reserves
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FFS Cash played the ball forward you prick!!
Last time he did that we nearly scored. He's got Gussand in front of him who thrives on those balls.
Numerous times he's passed the ball back tonight
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Our set pieces have been awful so far this season. We just pass them between ourselves until we eventually hit the first defender
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Their keeper is having a mare ….. don’t you just know he’s going to save 4 penalties in about 40 minutes
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Watching Villa is so boring
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Ref seems to have forgotten he can book players, outtara and onyeka with cynical fouls in the space of about 30 seconds.
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Is it legal to use a towel to wipe the ball for a throw in? Thought it was outlawed
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Early days, and all the usual disclaimers to allow me to furiously back pedal at a later date, but Guessand looks awful.
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I'm sitting listening to a portly Spanish fella playing the guitar and he's just started a heavily accented rendition of Sweet Caroline.
It's clearly a sign.
That you're in Hell?
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Good job we got that goal machine on the bench ready to leap on
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Early days, and all the usual disclaimers to allow me to furiously back pedal at a later date, but Guessand looks awful.
Another Monchi shit sandwich served up.
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Bit of the Malen of old there
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The way we play football has got worse as each seasons gone on under unai. This is painful to watch at times
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Early days, and all the usual disclaimers to allow me to furiously back pedal at a later date, but Guessand looks awful.
Imagine having JJ in there instead of Guessand. It breaks yer ‘art
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Sancho is actually doing what Bailey struggled at, keeping hold of the ball and passing accurately.
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Harvey and Malen off, Ollie and Rogers on.
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Bit better from Malen there
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Watkins on.
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How has Guessand stayed on?
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Early days, and all the usual disclaimers to allow me to furiously back pedal at a later date, but Guessand looks awful.
Another Monchi shit sandwich served up.
Don't tell Charles Laughton
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Well played Elliot. Tidy game
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Great touch and turn from Malen but then tried to smash the leather off it.
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And Guessand stays on..? Just for laughs presumably..
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Finish them now Ollie.
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How has Guessand stayed on?
That's anyone's guessand.
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I assume it's Malen's last ever action in a Villa shirt, the Nigel Callaghan head on him. At least Nige chased back when losing the ball. That hands on the hips thing is unforgiveable.
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How has Guessand stayed on?
He's been a bit better this half, IMO.
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Maybe...Guessand...could play...right back?
And Guessand stays on..? Just for laughs presumably..
Because he's not starting on Sunday.
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Is it legal to use a towel to wipe the ball for a throw in? Thought it was outlawed
So did I.
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Sancho is actually doing what Bailey struggled at, keeping hold of the ball and passing accurately.
His touch is razor sharp anyway, gives him that extra half yard
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I have seen this story before.
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And now the ref remembers his cards, fucking twat. That was a yellow, but so should 2-3 tackles by them.
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Fucking hell ref you are a proper Homer
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Early days, and all the usual disclaimers to allow me to furiously back pedal at a later date, but Guessand looks awful.
Imagine having JJ in there instead of Guessand. It breaks yer ‘art
The 2 assists one goal last season JJ?
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I have seen this story before.
Same here. It doesn't end well...
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They got the dodgyiest keeper and we can’t put any pressure on him
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I have seen this story before.
Same here. It doesn't end well...
Nope.
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Is it legal to use a towel to wipe the ball for a throw in? Thought it was outlawed
So did I.
It is but it has to be available for both sides to use
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Surprised to see an advert for Monster Ultra at this game...
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get bogarde off
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Sancho off for Buendia and Bogey off for Booby.
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JJ who is out for a month ?
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Decent debut from Sancho. Happy enough with Bogarde again too
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How are we playing?
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How are we playing?
Meh...not terrible, not great
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That's twice Rogers has lost the ball cheaply in a good position
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How are we playing?
Like this, from the start:
Mmm ... Meh ... Mmmmm ... YES .... pause ..... Mmmmm .... Meh ...... FFS ..... Meh.
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How are we playing?
Struggling for inspiration but solid enough
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Brentford fans make Fulham sound like a rabid, screaming mob.
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That's twice Rogers has lost the ball cheaply in a good position
and I thought Malen was crap
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Malen was fucking terrible, his body language was abysmal, sulky and unenergetic.
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nearly agood move there
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How are we playing?
Rubbish
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Close there.
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Can't watch much more of these types of performances
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Nearly.
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goalie bloody saves
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Great save to be fair.
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square ball?
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Their keeper is an absolute spanner and we've barely tested him.
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square ball?
Round
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Big chance missed, good football
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square ball?
Hard at that pace and angle
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didnt hardly touch him.
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Please not penalties.
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Guessand or the young lad! It ain’t guessand is it!
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I like Jimoh, think he has it to become a top player.
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square ball?
Round
Gaelic
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Nice turn from Rogers again, better
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At the risk of jinxing a home goal, we have been like our old selves the last 15 mins.
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square ball?
Round
Gaelic
Garlic
Sorry, wrong thread...
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At the risk of jinxing a home goal, we have been like our old selves the last 15 mins.
The old 'conceding deep into injury time' selves?
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Can't see either of these teams troubling the upper half of anything this season...
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Is Watkins fit?
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Konsa has been fantastic this half!
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We seem to be settling for penalties. Can't decide if this means we lose on penalties or concede at the death so we don't even get to take any.
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Is Watkins on the pitch?
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Is Watkins fit?
She said yes.
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Is Watkins fit?
Absolutely brutal. Emery berating somebody and Id say it's him.
Offside line working well
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I reckon we're unlucky not being ahead here, we've defended well other than their wonder goal and we've created enough to 2 or 3 ourselves.
Green shoots and all that.
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Fucking hell, Rogers, nothing sticks to him.
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Does this go to extra time or straight to pens?
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What has happened to Rogers.
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Possession ending with Rogers for the nth time...
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Does this go to extra time or straight to pens?
Pens
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I reckon we're unlucky not being ahead here, we've defended well other than their wonder goal and we've created enough to 2 or 3 ourselves.
Green shoots and all that.
I agree with the green shoots bit
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Does this go to extra time or straight to pens?
Straight to pens, in about 2 mins as it stands...
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Oh and this ref is a twat.
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Not the worst effort.
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Better.
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Played Rogers.
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Oh and this ref is a twat.
I get the impression SJM thinks the same
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Don’t see any green shoots
Think we’ve been abysmal against a team of Brentford nobodies
Shocking performance really
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no power
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Possession ending with Rogers for the nth time...
Not a bad run there all the same
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Pens it is.
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Good run and shot by Rogers.
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Is Emi on bench bring him on
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We’re going out on pens to Brentford reserves aren’t we?
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Does this go to extra time or straight to pens?
On this occasion the ref takes it to penalties hoping we may score one more goal
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Penalties.
Brilliant.
Now we have to score.
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Oh well.
Better 2nd half but Guessand has not impressed at all.
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We were the better team but still lack imagination and guile in last 3rd
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Penalties.
Brilliant.
Now we have to score.
But we did score🤷🏽♂️
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Another average performance-struggling to create anything against a poor side
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Turning it off, can't watch penalties,see you later
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We’re going out on pens to Brentford reserves aren’t we?
Yup.
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Penalties.
Brilliant.
Now we have to score.
But we did score🤷🏽♂️
Easy now. Twice in one evening will give me a nosebleed.
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Don’t see any green shoots
Think we’ve been abysmal against a team of Brentford nobodies
Shocking performance really
Yep not one of Brentoford would I want. But they are strong as a team. We are not at the moment. Very poor.
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Don’t see any green shoots
Think we’ve been abysmal against a team of Brentford nobodies
Shocking performance really
Definite improvements for me. Konsa classy performance, best I've seen him play in a long while. Maatsen decent on left, Sancho very positive. McGinn very good again. Rogers lively cameo.
We played effectively with 9 players for a lot of it, let's be honest. Watkins was abysmal when he came on too.
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I thought Maatsen was the stand out for us. He’ll probably take a pen too.
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Played much better - whilst still being a mile off our best. I thought we were better despite what there saying on Sky
Guessand - has some work to do!
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Another average performance-struggling to create anything against a poor side
How about we deserved to win this against a team that played great against Chelsea at weekend?
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Very slight improvement but we still look appalling anywhere near the box.
Malen, Soccer Aid dreadful but then Watkins did nothing when he came on. Rogers still off it but Konsa, Bogarde, SJM, Elliot and Kamara when he came on were good.
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When was our last penalty shoot-out? Webba in the Play-Offs?
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Another average performance-struggling to create anything against a poor side
How about we deserved to win this against a team that played great against Chelsea at weekend?
They made 10 or 11 changes.
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Scores from the rebound!
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Dont see how anyone cannot be worried about the season based on the opening 5 games. Its been a shit show
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When was our last penalty shoot-out? Webba in the Play-Offs?
Lille?
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Well that's a good start...
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It is the League Cup, early rounds in this comp are generally poor.
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Can we bring Emi on
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F*ck.
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I thought Maatsen was the stand out for us. He’ll probably take a pen too.
Maatsen, Konsa, pau and Bogarde played very well and Cash and McGinn were good as well, a bit rough in front of them but there was some good play, which we haven't been seeing so far.
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Another average performance-struggling to create anything against a poor side
How about we deserved to win this against a team that played great against Chelsea at weekend?
We deserved to win this based on what? We didnt dominate the match at all
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Been our best player but that was an awful pen
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Oh John
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Great start.
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It's ok, here comes Ollie.
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And he scores.
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We rarely lose penalty shootouts but when we do, it's always against a Cockney no mark team.
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Why was SJM taking the first one?
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Why was SJM taking the first one?
Because Barry was off the pitch at the time
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Why was SJM taking the first one?
Captain volunteered? Or did you want him taking a later one?
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Good pen emi
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Our keeper isn’t a penalty saver.
Edit: Not that it’s going to make any difference.
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That's fucked it.
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Oh well, out.
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Things not looking great ATM
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Twat
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Man we are shit man. Seriously
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Mickey Mouse cup anyway.
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Well we scored a goal tonight.
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Fuck off Brentford.
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Fuck off ******.
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Fucking hell, Bizot not really in the same postcode as any of those.
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Ah well, we had a good run.
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We got what we deserved absolutely nothing
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Who'd have guessed that we can't even score penalties?
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Heartily sick of this season already.
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As we seem to be really shit at set pieces, did we even look at how they might take penalties like other teams do?
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Makes a change from getting knocked out by Palace, I suppose.
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Ah well, we had a good run.
Maybe the real treasure was the friends we made along the way.
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fcukin rubbish and whats with fcukin hey jude .. fcuk off
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Just fuck off Cash and McGinn
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Oh fuck off - what the fuck is going on with our team - flat and limp. FFS
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Never fancied us in that really. Couldn't see where we going to get 5 reliable takers from and Bizot didn't get near one.
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We are in trouble lads!
All fart and no poo
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Fuck off Villa.
Just fuck off.
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You would think we would want to avenge that loss but again anothee average performance. Scored a fluke goal and thats about it.
Just sell onana and use the money to bring diaby back. We fucking need a player like that back
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Total wank again
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I said to the Mrs their keeper will be prime Gordon Banks in the shootout.
Ah well at least we scored a goal. We never beat Brentford anyway and can we just bin those fucking black shirts please??
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We can focus on the league now.
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Makes a change from getting knocked out by Palace, I suppose.
Looks like they are going through on pens as well.
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Are we actually good at anything?
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Sancho’s miss costly.
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Are we actually good at anything?
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We rarely lose penalty shootouts but when we do, it's always against a Cockney no mark team.
Let's hope they fielded an ineligible player...
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Heartily sick of this season already.
Second that.
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Bizot Shilton cardboard cut outesque.
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Oh well, saved me a few quid on a cup run.
Richard "Bluenose" Wilford being a snide git on the radio commentary, but what's new?
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I'm absolutely stunned to see Cash letting us down.
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(https://i.ibb.co/gZ9yKmwC/17580568670465834680079167042296.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gZ9yKmwC)
...anyway...
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And that’s it, out of the league cup again without a whimper. Luckily, Unai is a cup specialist so FA Cup and Europa League here we come!!
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Back to back to back to back to back crap.
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Anyone finding positives in that performance is a better man/ woman than me.
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Anyone finding positives in that performance is a better man/ woman than me.
We scored a goal at last?
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We can focus on the league now.
Trying to stay in it?
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Are we actually good at anything?
Foul throws?
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Are we actually good at anything?
Foul throws?
wasnt there 2 foul ones against everton?
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Are we actually good at anything?
Not winning football matches.