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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on May 12, 2025, 06:17:10 AM
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Friday 16th 19.30 KO.
Other games
Friday
Chelsea v ManU
Sun
West Ham v Forest
Arsenal v Newcastle
Tuess
ManC v Bournemouth
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Another must win obviously.
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I think width is key - stretching this Spurs side opens them up like the parting of the Red Sea.
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Watching both Man U and Spuds yesterday fills me with enormous confidence for the Spuds game and Man U game to follow. If they both play like that against us we will thrash them.
Spuds first though and can see our best win of the season.
4-0 to us and CL qualification to follow the next weekend.
UTV
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Spurs were an embarrassment yesterday. Far worse than us at Wembley despite not conceding as many.
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Last home game of the season, Uni will send us out a la second half against PSG. At least 4-0, possibly 6-0. Only changes would be McGinn for Asensio (with Rogers playing the 10 and SJM on the right), Maatsen for JJ on the left.
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Last home game of the season, Uni will send us out a la second half against PSG. At least 4-0, possibly 6-0.
Dangerous talk, a win of any description will do.
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Last home game of the season, Uni will send us out a la second half against PSG. At least 4-0, possibly 6-0.
Dangerous talk, a win of any description will do.
Of course, I'd take 3 points and a nervy 1-0 right now. But our goal difference is now only 5 worse than Forest, so it would be nice if we could turn that around by the final day, and remove the possibility of missing out on goal difference :-)
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I think width is key - stretching this Spurs side opens them up like the parting of the Red Sea.
Absolutely, and it's not about them being poor players, etc. This is a tactical flaw in how they're setup, the positioning of the fullbacks when they have the ball fucks them over in transition time and time again. That he's done nothing to address it in 2 years shows how flawed he is as a manager.
My plan against these would be very much rope-a-dope, let them get into our half and then press and counter out wide. I'd be tempted to put Maatsen and Bailey on the wings.
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0-2
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Spurs looked atrocious against Palace. It really could have been their heaviest home defeat in the Premier. Ange looks a beaten man. We need to take full advantage.
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Kulesevski was subbed off the weekend with injury. Unfortunately he might be back for our game but that would put their players into a doubt of trying not to get injured ahead of the final.
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Dangerous talk, a win of any description will do.
Of course, I'd take 3 points and a nervy 1-0 right now. But our goal difference is now only 5 worse than Forest, so it would be nice if we could turn that around by the final day, and remove the possibility of missing out on goal difference :-)
If we win our last two games, Forest can't catch us. Even if we win one and draw one, Forest still can't be level with us on points. The others are too far ahead wrt goal difference for us to overcome it.
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Dangerous talk, a win of any description will do.
Of course, I'd take 3 points and a nervy 1-0 right now. But our goal difference is now only 5 worse than Forest, so it would be nice if we could turn that around by the final day, and remove the possibility of missing out on goal difference :-)
If we win our last two games, Forest can't catch us. Even if we win one and draw one, Forest still can't be level with us on points. The others are too far ahead wrt goal difference for us to overcome it.
are you unwilling to consider us putting 7-8 in against Spurs and Man Utd?
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I could see Ollie absolutely feasting against this side. Especially if he chooses to rest some of their first choice defenders again like he did at the weekend.
As annoying as the whole fixture rearrangement was, Friday night under the lights will mean the atmosphere is going to be one of the best league games of the season - cannot wait.
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I could see Ollie absolutely feasting against this side. Especially if he chooses to rest some of their first choice defenders again like he did at the weekend.
I wonder though if "first-choice" trying to avoid injury might actually be better for us than fringe players busting a gut to try and make their team for the final.
Obviously, they're all not-very-good, so it shouldn't matter too much.
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Fate sees me in hospitality so should anyone see me, please do not address me unless you too are wearing a lanyard....
Remember Friday night against Everton for our first home game back in the PL? This feels like that did, sunny, optimistic, a baying full house and Villa Park at it's finest. The perceived injustice of the move, the continued focus on Spurs by the media as if they are an elite club, the feeling that we should have made a final this season, certainly not them, last home game and a chance to look back on a fine season that could become brilliant again.
I'm glad we are playing first, we can lay down a marker and I believe we will.
4-0
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Enjoy hospitality Nev. We are not worthy....
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Fate sees me in hospitality so should anyone see me, please do not address me unless you too are wearing a lanyard....
Don't forget to wear your burgundy chinos and boat shoes.
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I think it is a game for Bailey to say his farewell as he put in a lively cameo against Palace. Rogers in the centre and McGinn on the left for the forwards, or swap those as Rogers didn't do badly on the left when he first started for us. Rest as we started Saturday if Mings is fit, as I feel he won't be at Villa come August so again, a farewell flourish from him keeping Solanke quiet.
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we have to absolutely fuck these fuckers
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Villa to win 3.1
Chelsea to win 3.1
3 Draws in Sunday fixtures.
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we have to absolutely fuck these fuckers
Yes this!!
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Mastsen
Kamara
Onana
Asensio
Watkins
Rogers
McGin
Never ever cocky, but lets hammer this feckers, 3-0, Watkins, Rogers, McGinn
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Proof if it were ever needed that the reason why Spuds are so crap this season is that their manager's unhinged.
https://x.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/1921871964269875213?t=-UOUvfaxTGfaRo9XTdMsFw&s=08
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Kulesevski was subbed off the weekend with injury. Unfortunately he might be back for our game but that would put their players into a doubt of trying not to get injured ahead of the final.
Crocodile Dundee has publically said he will be wrapped in cotton wool for the final (along with a few others i would imagine)
I want us to smash the living shit out of this shower of wannabees - how the hell we lost 4-1 to them and last season is beyond me.
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Kulesevski was subbed off the weekend with injury. Unfortunately he might be back for our game but that would put their players into a doubt of trying not to get injured ahead of the final.
Crocodile Dundee has publically said he will be wrapped in cotton wool for the final (along with a few others i would imagine)
I want us to smash the living shit out of this shower of wannabees - how the hell we lost 4-1 to them and last season is beyond me.
Because they did actually used to play and smashed Citeh 5-0 around that time as well.
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Proof if it were ever needed that the reason why Spuds are so crap this season is that their manager's unhinged.
https://x.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/1921871964269875213?t=-UOUvfaxTGfaRo9XTdMsFw&s=08
One of the many reasons I love Emery, is he virtually never makes excuses. Chancers such as Ange and Arteta, are just that, chancers
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I hope we smash the granny out of them. 6-0.
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Do we know what the injury situation is with Tielemans?
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We must not go into this one too cocky or over confident. Strongest team, take no chances .
--------- Martinez ---------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
--- Kamara -- Onana -----
Rogers - McGinn - Marlen
-------- Watkins -----------
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Am I a bad person for thinking it would be the funniest thing ever if Matty Cash nobbled a few of them for the final? Without Cash being sent off and hindering our Top 5 bid, of course.
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We must not go into this one too cocky or over confident. Strongest team, take no chances .
--------- Martinez ---------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
--- Kamara -- Onana -----
Rogers - McGinn - Marlen
-------- Watkins -----------
Martinez? It's a must win game, and we've won every game that Olsen has started this season.
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This is going to be such an easy win we can obliterate our GD gap.
5-0 Villa imo.
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4-0s, 5-0s and 6-0s everywhere.
Lord, have mercy.
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4-0s, 5-0s and 6-0s everywhere.
Lord, have mercy.
I tried earlier, you'd be as well talking to the wall with this lot.
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Spurs are utter shit, of course we should be expecting to batter them. Same as it wasn't long ago when we were utter shit that they expected to batter us.
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I'd like us to completely funeral them 7-0
But I'd take another 1-0 to be honest.
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I’ll take any win and same goes for the Manure game.
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Will Big Ange mate play a hybrid team , with a mix of fringe players , kids and a smattering of usuals . Hopefully they all play on 50% committment levels or less .
Or will he play the team he intends to start the final and use it as a dress rehearsal .
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If we don't win by at least 6 Nas should rage sack Emery. We need to stop accepting mediocrity and we can easily get someone better in.
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We must not go into this one too cocky or over confident. Strongest team, take no chances .
--------- Martinez ---------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
--- Kamara -- Onana -----
Rogers - McGinn - Marlen
-------- Watkins -----------
Should be a great night. I think Torres and Maatsen will come back in. McGinn will be on left. Bailey might come back in on the right. Hopefully Rogers back in the centre.
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We must not go into this one too cocky or over confident. Strongest team, take no chances .
--------- Martinez ---------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
--- Kamara -- Onana -----
Rogers - McGinn - Marlen
-------- Watkins -----------
Martinez? It's a must win game, and we've won every game that Olsen has started this season.
Is that Donny Malen or Marlen Jackson?
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Is Josh Onomah still playing for them as he is as good as Jack Grealish according to Daniel Levy so they could play him.
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Proof if it were ever needed that the reason why Spuds are so crap this season is that their manager's unhinged.
https://x.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/1921871964269875213?t=-UOUvfaxTGfaRo9XTdMsFw&s=08
One of the many reasons I love Emery, is he virtually never makes excuses. Chancers such as Ange and Arteta, are just that, chancers
I've heard multiple players talking about his demands for a zero-excuse mentality from everyone. Like you, I like it, but I wouldn't be against him speaking out when things go egregiously against us, like Fergie used to.
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I’d take a nervy 1-0 win.
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No idea why anyone would think this will be a walk in the park.
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1-1
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No idea why anyone would think this will be a walk in the park.
Because we’re really good and they’re really shit.
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No idea why anyone would think this will be a walk in the park.
Because we’re really good and they’re really shit.
And the fact they've got one shot at salvation in the game that follows after this one.
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If they treat it as prep for the Europa League and play some key players, i.e. their back 4 it’ll be tricky. Hopefully they’ll be resting them.
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They are utter shit. The only thing that matters is how we play. We play well we win. Even Wolves scored 4 against this lot and Wolves never score 4 against anyone, the previous time Wolves scored 4 in a game Billy Wright was still playing. Their best 11 is shit. Their second 11 are shit. Their U21s are shit. Their academy is shit.
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Hopefully they don’t shit all over us.
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We need to put in a crunching tackle within the first thirty seconds. Not a red one though. Under their circumstances, Spuds won't like it up 'em and will fold.
Villa will be really up for this and with the crowd behind them, I'm guessing 3-0.
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I’m nervous about this one, I shouldn’t be, but we have a habit of making em look like prime Brazil.
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Can get 2/1 in Tottenham or draw. I've taken that as some insurance.
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They are utter shit. The only thing that matters is how we play. We play well we win. Even Wolves scored 4 against this lot and Wolves never score 4 against anyone, the previous time Wolves scored 4 in a game Billy Wright was still playing. Their best 11 is shit. Their second 11 are shit. Their U21s are shit. Their academy is shit.
Well of course, but that’s often the case - I think you said the same when we played Wolves. You’re not wrong, but people get nervous because we don’t always play well (no one does).
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They are utter shit. The only thing that matters is how we play. We play well we win. Even Wolves scored 4 against this lot and Wolves never score 4 against anyone, the previous time Wolves scored 4 in a game Billy Wright was still playing. Their best 11 is shit. Their second 11 are shit. Their U21s are shit. Their academy is shit.
Their fans are shit, and so is that dirge 'marching in' shite they sing.
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It's one thing to be nervous about how we may play and being nervous about Spurs. They are the side you want to play most, utter shit for nearly 6 months and with the distraction of a game a few days later that could save their season. I'd rather play them than anyone else in the league.
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It's one thing to be nervous about how we may play and being nervous about Spurs. They are the side you want to play most, utter shit for nearly 6 months and with the distraction of a game a few days later that could save their season. I'd rather play them than anyone else in the league.
Yeah but ........
Well, you know.
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I’m with PWS. They are absolutely wank. We’re funeral them. Cremate them. And for the wake, we’ll smash the tits off Man U too.
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It's one thing to be nervous about how we may play and being nervous about Spurs. They are the side you want to play most, utter shit for nearly 6 months and with the distraction of a game a few days later that could save their season. I'd rather play them than anyone else in the league.
Yeah but ........
Well, you know.
Yeah. However bad Spurs are, there's something about them that makes my nethers twitch a bit. When they spanked us 4-0 at home last season it was off the back of a home defeat to Wolves and they followed it up by losing 3-0 to Fulham.
I think it comes from the fact that when they beat us, they seem to really smash us (a bit like Newcastle), so it feels like we do worse against them than we actually do.
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I know that having the last two games of the season against the teams 16th and 17th in the league is great, but Spurs and Man Utd still have some decent players despite the chaos (and bad managers).
Any result is possible
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It's one thing to be nervous about how we may play and being nervous about Spurs. They are the side you want to play most, utter shit for nearly 6 months and with the distraction of a game a few days later that could save their season. I'd rather play them than anyone else in the league.
Yeah but ........
Well, you know.
Yeah. However bad Spurs are, there's something about them that makes my nethers twitch a bit. When they spanked us 4-0 at home last season it was off the back of a home defeat to Wolves and they followed it up by losing 3-0 to Fulham.
I think it comes from the fact that when they beat us, they seem to really smash us (a bit like Newcastle), so it feels like we do worse against them than we actually do.
They were awful when we played then in the Cup and have got worse, with key players out and a UEFA cup final 5 days later, we really should be beating them. They will play a lot of fringe players I reckon, and any 1st teamers won't want to get injured.
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They were awful when we played then in the Cup and have got worse, with key players out and a UEFA cup final 5 days later, we really should be beating them. They will lay a lot of fringe players and any sort ones won't want to get injured.
I completely agree. Doesn't mean I'm not still a tiny bit worried that our inherent Villa-ness will still come to the fore though.
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They were awful when we played then in the Cup and have got worse, with key players out and a UEFA cup final 5 days later, we really should be beating them. They will lay a lot of fringe players and any sort ones won't want to get injured.
I completely agree. Doesn't mean I'm not still a tiny bit worried that our inherent Villa-ness will still come to the fore though.
Oh absolutely, I am nervous now.
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It's one thing to be nervous about how we may play and being nervous about Spurs. They are the side you want to play most, utter shit for nearly 6 months and with the distraction of a game a few days later that could save their season. I'd rather play them than anyone else in the league.
Yeah but ........
Well, you know.
Yeah. However bad Spurs are, there's something about them that makes my nethers twitch a bit. When they spanked us 4-0 at home last season it was off the back of a home defeat to Wolves and they followed it up by losing 3-0 to Fulham.
I think it comes from the fact that when they beat us, they seem to really smash us (a bit like Newcastle), so it feels like we do worse against them than we actually do.
Every time we’ve previously played them there has been a reason for them to want to win. That required effort on their part along with playing well. Even in the FA cup game they showed very little when it was the case. This time, there’s nothing at stake as such as all they’re doing is fulfilling a fixture and hoping they don’t pick up any knocks.
We should be looking at a cricket score, it’s there if we want it.
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All the talk of 5-0, 6-0 etc is premature , we haven't really battered anyone this season other than championship level sides like Preston and Celtic.
I'm expecting a close game , 2-1 Villa win .
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I’m with PWS. They are absolutely wank. We’re funeral them. Cremate them. And for the wake, we’ll smash the tits off Man U too.
Man Utd could be dangerous depending on when they schedule their celebratory barbecue.
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In a way moving the game to be Villa Park under lights against a Spurs group who don’t want to be there will be a great night. We have to do our part and really get into them quickly. They will be missing several players so no mercy at all.
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All the talk of 5-0, 6-0 etc is premature , we haven't really battered anyone this season other than championship level sides like Preston and Celtic.
I'm expecting a close game , 2-1 Villa win .
And erm Newcastle.
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All the talk of 5-0, 6-0 etc is premature , we haven't really battered anyone this season other than championship level sides like Preston and Celtic.
I'm expecting a close game , 2-1 Villa win .
And erm Newcastle.
oh yes, and Brighton.
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Brighton away, too. If the three-nil win against Preston comes under the classification of "battering".
Edit: too quick for me.
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On the realistic side, if they are indeed resting players, the ones coming in will know it's their last chance to impress and potentially sneak in to the team.
It's Spurs, and they have a very similar squad to the one that spanked us before.
We need to be careful and cautious. And then, when we have the measure of them, absolutely funeral the fuckers.
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week. Their reserves aren’t suddenly going to elevate themselves to starting players. We need to do our job and put them to the sword. Which obviously also means take it seriously, prep well and be clinical. They get behind they’ll fall apart.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Maatsen
Kamara
McGinn
Onana
Malen
Rodgers
Watkins
3-0 to us. Ollie, Morgan, Malen
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week.
I agree but Southampton are even shitterer and we struggled to beat them at VP.
I think if we go at them early and get an early goal - the roof will come off VP and they will collectively shit their pants.
It could really help our GD if we put our minds to it.
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week.
I agree but Southampton are even shitterer and we struggled to beat them at VP.
I think if we go at them early and get an early goal - the roof will come off VP and they will collectively shit their pants.
It could really help our GD if we put our minds to it.
And Newcastle are a lot better and got walloped by us. I would prefer to look at the results closer to now then results from back in December when were in the middle of playing 7 games in 22 days. My only concern is the missing Youri as his passing would destroy them and we were missing that against Bournemouth.
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Good and fair point well made.
I fancy Ollie to get a couple here now he has got that monkey off his back
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Australian Steve Bruce has somehow managed to get one over on Emery before. No doubt more by luck than judgement, but still.
Chicken-counting is off the table where Tottingham are concerned. As long as we get all three points, I'll be happy.
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Australian Steve Bruce has somehow managed to get one over on Emery before. No doubt more by luck than judgement, but still.
Chicken-counting is off the table where Tottingham are concerned. As long as we get all three points, I'll be happy.
Normally with Maddison playing. The last time we played them in the FA Cup when they were just starting this run, we had a defence of Bogarde and Kamara and they only scored with a mistake/deflection. Obviously they do have Solanke playing this time which is why I would want Mings if fit but he is nursing a ham string so he might not be fully there. Son has just come back from injury as well.
Bailey or Malen should be able to stretch them though.
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Chicken-counting is off the table where Tottingham are concerned. As long as we get all three points, I'll be happy.
Exactly, a comfortable win by a couple of goals is all we need, with the same again at Old Trafford.
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Chicken-counting is off the table where Tottingham are concerned. As long as we get all three points, I'll be happy.
Exactly, a comfortable win by a couple of goals is all we need, with the same again at Old Trafford.
We need to make up 12 goals on Chelsea and 16 on Newcastle. That's what we should be aiming for.
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Not exactly sure what's happened Spurs this season.it's been some collapse point wise compared to last season. Injuries can only be a part of it.
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Not exactly sure what's happened Spurs this season.it's been some collapse point wise compared to last season. Injuries can only be a part of it.
Charlatan of a Manager? Same for Redfilth
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1-0 Saunders winner and our keeper to knock out their striker.
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1-0 Saunders winner and our keeper to knock out their striker.
I'd take that over a frustrating 0-0 with Justin Edinburgh coming back from the grave to impossibly clear a Saunders lob off the line.
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week. Their reserves aren’t suddenly going to elevate themselves to starting players. We need to do our job and put them to the sword. Which obviously also means take it seriously, prep well and be clinical. They get behind they’ll fall apart.
We’re absolutely sure it’ll be the reserves?
No chance of Skippy saying, around Thursday teatime: ‘Right, this is the match in which you’ll book your starting place in the Final with CL glory to be won…etc… etc…St Swithin’s Day…’
I mean, we’ll still ‘ave em, but there could be a shock first 2 minutes.
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week. Their reserves aren’t suddenly going to elevate themselves to starting players. We need to do our job and put them to the sword. Which obviously also means take it seriously, prep well and be clinical. They get behind they’ll fall apart.
We’re absolutely sure it’ll be the reserves?
No chance of Skippy saying, around Thursday teatime: ‘Right, this is the match in which you’ll book your starting place in the Final with CL glory to be won…etc… etc…St Swithin’s Day…’
I mean, we’ll still ‘ave em, but there could be a shock first 2 minutes.
Lol.
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Not exactly sure what's happened Spurs this season.it's been some collapse point wise compared to last season. Injuries can only be a part of it.
Charlatan of a Manager? Same for Redfilth
It was only March last year, they battered us at Villa Park and looks odds on to get top 4. They bottled the run in and Ange has never managed to turn it around there.
Battered us in second half at Spurs earlier this season too after a defensive apocalypse from us.
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1-0 Saunders winner and our keeper to knock out their striker.
With loads of fans locked out and standing on the holte park hill watching through the crack.
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The only chance Spurzz have got of winning is If they get prime Gazza , Klinsman , Ledley King , David Ginola and Harry Kane back
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week. Their reserves aren’t suddenly going to elevate themselves to starting players. We need to do our job and put them to the sword. Which obviously also means take it seriously, prep well and be clinical. They get behind they’ll fall apart.
We’re absolutely sure it’ll be the reserves?
No chance of Skippy saying, around Thursday teatime: ‘Right, this is the match in which you’ll book your starting place in the Final with CL glory to be won…etc… etc…St Swithin’s Day…’
I mean, we’ll still ‘ave em, but there could be a shock first 2 minutes.
No, no worries. They sold Oliver Skipp to Lesta last year. For £20m!
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Not exactly sure what's happened Spurs this season.it's been some collapse point wise compared to last season. Injuries can only be a part of it.
Charlatan of a Manager? Same for Redfilth
It was only March last year, they battered us at Villa Park and looks odds on to get top 4. They bottled the run in and Ange has never managed to turn it around there.
Battered us in second half at Spurs earlier this season too after a defensive apocalypse from us.
Managers have had time to work out how to take their underlapping fullbacks out of the game and exploit the space they leave in behind, Ange has done fuck all to change or address it so everyone has started trying to do the same thing, and it works pretty regularly. It means they are really easy to score against on the counter.
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week. Their reserves aren’t suddenly going to elevate themselves to starting players. We need to do our job and put them to the sword. Which obviously also means take it seriously, prep well and be clinical. They get behind they’ll fall apart.
We’re absolutely sure it’ll be the reserves?
No chance of Skippy saying, around Thursday teatime: ‘Right, this is the match in which you’ll book your starting place in the Final with CL glory to be won…etc… etc…St Swithin’s Day…’
I mean, we’ll still ‘ave em, but there could be a shock first 2 minutes.
No, no worries. They sold Oliver Skipp to Lesta last year. For £20m!
Phew!
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Nah they’re shit. They’ve proven that week after week. Their reserves aren’t suddenly going to elevate themselves to starting players. We need to do our job and put them to the sword. Which obviously also means take it seriously, prep well and be clinical. They get behind they’ll fall apart.
We’re absolutely sure it’ll be the reserves?
He talked about wrapping players in cotton wool. I’m sure it won’t be 10 changes. I’m actually hoping it’s their first team.
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They’re definitely giving Son some minutes as he’s been injured recently so I do hope we leave Engels out.
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He's usually good for a goal against us so...yeah, can't wait.
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Good job he rested him against us in the FA Cup match as well then.
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He's usually good for a goal against us so...yeah, can't wait.
You would think so, but..since Emery took over we’ve played them six times, 5 in the league once in the cup, dating back to 1st January 2023. We’ve won 4 and lost 2. We’ve scored 9 and let in 11 (those two big defeats home and away in the league). Out of those 11 goals in two and half years, Son has scored one of them.
Jinxed it for Friday now obviously.
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Of course we should win,like Citeh at Sarfamton, Trees v Lesta .
Then you have the refs . I hope it don’t but shit happens.
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Villa win. Can see Ange resting a few players, he knows he's got one shot to possibly save his job.
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Villa win. Can see Ange resting a few players, he knows he's got one shot to possibly save his job.
One shot at saving his CV, think the horse has bolted on his job.
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It’s interesting that 2 managers that are being criticised for not changing their tactics face each other in a European final.
One of them will walk away with a trophy.
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Villa win. Can see Ange resting a few players, he knows he's got one shot to possibly save his job.
One shot at saving his CV, think the horse has bolted on his job.
Probably right there.
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Same as Bournemouth, just got to go for it 3-0 to us I think but I’d take any win
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Same as Bournemouth, just got to go for it 3-0 to us I think but I’d take any win
Think Bournemouth was the complete opposite of just going for it. Bournemouth was sit back, let them have the ball and wait for an opening.
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Spurs can be dangerous, I expect us to be cagey and not open ourselves up for quick counter attacks.
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I'm glad Maddison is injured.
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Just win Villa, and take it to the last day of the season: a goal can go in off John McGinn's arse for all I care!
TBH, I'm more worried about the Manure game than Friday, given our crap record up there! Unwanted memories from over the years keep flooding back, despite my best efforts!
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Just win Villa, and take it to the last day of the season: a goal can go in off John McGinn's arse for all I care!
Indeed, there's a lot of fate tempting going on. The home game against Sheffield Utd is still too fresh in the mind for that.
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Just win Villa, and take it to the last day of the season: a goal can go in off John McGinn's arse for all I care!
Indeed, there's a lot of fate tempting going on. The home game against Sheffield Utd is still too fresh in the mind for that.
And Ipswich
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Just win Villa, and take it to the last day of the season: a goal can go in off John McGinn's arse for all I care!
Indeed, there's a lot of fate tempting going on. The home game against Sheffield Utd is still too fresh in the mind for that.
And Ipswich
Yes 1981.
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Chelsea, PSG and Newcastle are even fresher.
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It’s interesting that 2 managers that are being criticised for not changing their tactics face each other in a European final.
One of them will walk away with a trophy.
The standard of opposition in the Europa League has shown itself to be bottom-half of the Premier League. They've got lucky that none of the CL teams dropped into the secondary competition, like in previous years.
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Just win Villa, and take it to the last day of the season: a goal can go in off John McGinn's arse for all I care!
Indeed, there's a lot of fate tempting going on. The home game against Sheffield Utd is still too fresh in the mind for that.
And Ipswich
Yes 1981.
I've never liked Tuesday night games since
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Kulusevski is out for then now as well
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Kulusevski is out for then now as well
Is Darren Anderton fit?
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Wonder if they're out or 'out'.
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Apparently Kulusevski's had knee surgery, so is buggered for the final too.
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Shame for the lad to miss a final, delighted he definitely isn't playing against us as he's their one player I rate.
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Hopefully Harry Kane is out too, the diving, cheating ******
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1-1
Booo
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So, as we went into this mini campaign, 4 games, all being must win games, this was the one I thought we could really pull together a good result, get a few goals under our belt, good performance, get ourselves into the right frame of mind for the last game of the season which I also have tagged as the banana skin, first things first, here we go.
We are right back in the mix now, everybody had us written off a few weeks ago, now a lot of pundits are stating 5th place and Champs League and one has got us at 4th, good win against Spurs and heaps more pressure on everybody around us and we come good at just the right time.
Villa win 3-0.
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We are an unbelievable run it's been superb , akin to the 10 win streak that lead to our modern renaissance under Deano. Keep it going . UTV .
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Mark Falco is back from injury.
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Mark Falco is back from injury.
We need Withe'y back 2-2
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The spurs forums are interesting.
None of their fans want this game, most want players rested and all predict a defeat.
Oh, and they all want Cash maimed !
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The spurs forums are interesting.
None of their fans want this game, most want players rested and all predict a defeat.
Oh, and they all want Cash maimed !
Still praying for Bentancur then? Muppets!
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Imagine what their forums would have been saying about Bosnich if they'd been around 30 year ago.
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The spurs forums are interesting.
None of their fans want this game, most want players rested and all predict a defeat.
Oh, and they all want Cash maimed !
Still praying for Bentancur then? Muppets!
I remember him carting one of their players a bit late at Villa Park when we played them under Gerrard, and then the Bentacur tackle which was a regulation full back clack but no worse than you see game after game.
That they have this ongoing thing about him is really funny given they employ one of the most snide, cynical twats in Romero, who probably makes three or four challenges per game on a par with Cash's, and Mr Nice Guy Son who nearly finished Andre Gomes career with a horrific tackle.
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I despise Romero, he just appears to be a borderline sociopath.
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Bergvall was a despicable twat in the Cup game, constantly cynically sything our players down. When he was finally booked after his 10th sych tackle, he screamed at the referee. Prick.
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They like Romero cos he's a thug but when they are losing they constantly knock him as a defender and footballer.
I cant believe we can possibly finish with higher points than last season. If you'd told me that in mid January I'd have said you were nuts. Very very similar to 22/23. The goals aren't flowing as freely as last season but we seem to be defensively much tighter
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Bottom 3 have been so poor all teams have racked up more points , annoyingly we threw away 4 points
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Well yeah but that’s not unique - Chelsea “threw away” 5 points against Ipswich, Citeh 2 against Saints etc.
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Diffcult to decide on who Ange will play. He slated his 2nd string last weekend saying not one of them has played themselves into his thinking for the final, yet he won't want to risk too many big guns on Friday, especially with a rampant Matty Cash on the prowl.
A decent win for us, but not wihtout the odd scare.
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Bergvall was a despicable twat in the Cup game, constantly cynically sything our players down. When he was finally booked after his 10th sych tackle, he screamed at the referee. Prick.
Is it me but all he does is run around alot . quite overated
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He is injured as well so won't be kicking anyone Friday.
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Christ, all these injuries, players likely rested, the ones who aren't likely playing within themselves, nobody with much to play for anyway, against us at home with our home record...we're going to fuck this up historically, I can feel it.
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Christ, all these injuries, players likely rested, the ones who aren't likely playing within themselves, nobody with much to play for anyway, against us at home with our home record...we're going to fuck this up historically, I can feel it.
The gift that keeps on giving
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You'll have to forgive a few of us for not being full of confidence. Last year we welcomed the division's worst team to fortress VP under the lights on a Friday, where a win would have seen us go top - and the bed was very much shat.
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Christ, all these injuries, players likely rested, the ones who aren't likely playing within themselves, nobody with much to play for anyway, against us at home with our home record...we're going to fuck this up historically, I can feel it.
Well Tel has already shown he is one of those players who will only score against us....
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Apparently Kulusevski's had knee surgery, so is buggered for the final too.
how lucky are manure .
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You'll have to forgive a few of us for not being full of confidence. Last year we welcomed the division's worst team to fortress VP under the lights on a Friday, where a win would have seen us go top - and the bed was very much shat.
Although they did have their Cameron Archer voucher to cash in. Don't think Spurs have anyone - Jedinak to come off their bench and nod one in from a corner?
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You'll have to forgive a few of us for not being full of confidence. Last year we welcomed the division's worst team to fortress VP under the lights on a Friday, where a win would have seen us go top - and the bed was very much shat.
Although they did have their Cameron Archer voucher to cash in. Don't think Spurs have anyone - Jedinak to come off their bench and nod one in from a corner?
Bentancur's reanimated corpse? Revenge for his death at the hands of Matt Cash.
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There's no PL fixture you'd want more tomorrow than Spurs at home. If you can't be confident against a side that's shit, only concerned about another game and have a bunch out injured you'll never be confident.
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Never being confident works for me, thanks.
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Never being confident works for me, thanks.
You are correct, cd.
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Aston Villa v Tottenham (Fri, 19:30 BST)
Postecoglou says he'll put out his best team against Aston Villa to try and win the game.
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emu-baiting bastard, why does he hate us so much?
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You'll have to forgive a few of us for not being full of confidence. Last year we welcomed the division's worst team to fortress VP under the lights on a Friday, where a win would have seen us go top - and the bed was very much shat.
There were some very poor ref calls given against us that night in fairness. Pens not given goals disallowed etc
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Ange Postecoglou on whether he will rest players against Aston Villa, considering Tottenham play in the Europa League final on Wednesday: "No, we are are certainly going to go out there to try to win the game tomorrow and put out a team that hopefully gets that job done."
On whether he was worried about protecting the integrity of the Champions League race: "I'm not sure about the integrity. There have been times this year when we have had to field weakened teams because of injury. Does that affect integrity? So, if people are thinking there is some sort of competitive balance that exists or doesn't exist over the course of a season, I would be very surprised if people were questioning our integrity to try and win a game of football tomorrow.
"I will put a team out that I think will do its best to win a game of football, yes."
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
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Tottenham manager Ange Postecoglou on Son Heung-min: "He will definitely play tomorrow, whether we start with him or not we will have a look at. But he definitely reacted well to playing the other day.
"There were no issues with his foot and he has trained well. It makes sense for him to get more match minutes. That could be as a starter but if not he will definitely play at least half a game tomorrow."
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Sounds like he's taking it very seriously if he's already planning half-time substitutions. Some people might see that as a pre-season tactic, but Ange is playing 4D Buckaroo again.
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Tottenham manager Ange Postecoglou on Son Heung-min: "He will definitely play tomorrow, whether we start with him or not we will have a look at. But he definitely reacted well to playing the other day.
"There were no issues with his foot and he has trained well. It makes sense for him to get more match minutes. That could be as a starter but if not he will definitely play at least half a game tomorrow."
The i hope as soon as he steps on the pitch we stamp on it.
I think a few tasty early doors tackles might focus their minds also
Ref is Peter Bankes - not the worst of all of them and in 22 prem games has issued 83 yellows and 3 reds - one of the lowest this season for all refs
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If Son starts warming up, I'd send Cash over to the sidelines with instructions to rub his legs and lick his lips suggestively. His legs and lips, or Son's. Either works.
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
Perhaps. But perhaps if Villa didn't have such a history of Villa-ing it up, we wouldn't say it so often! (I wonder if over the years the most common theme in your match report headlines might be something along the lines of "Villa and the jaws of victory" :) )
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Under Unai the Villa way is to win. Often. Especially at home.
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Confirmed Tielemans still out.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj42894kr4yo
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
I'm still not sure what I'm doing to influence results.
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
I'm still not sure what I'm doing to influence results.
Don’t worry, it’s not you, it’s me. I lost my lucky pants in an unfortunate accident.
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
I'm still not sure what I'm doing to influence results.
Negative beliefs transmit themselves through everyday behaviour, this translates on match days and when there's a negative and nervous vibe it transmits to the players.
We've been like it for a long time.
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
I'm still not sure what I'm doing to influence results.
Negative beliefs transmit themselves through everyday behaviour, this translates on match days and when there's a negative and nervous vibe it transmits to the players.
We've been like it for a long time.
If this were true we’d lose every time I set foot in the ground.
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
I'm still not sure what I'm doing to influence results.
Negative beliefs transmit themselves through everyday behaviour, this translates on match days and when there's a negative and nervous vibe it transmits to the players.
We've been like it for a long time.
Or conversely, it’s Friday night in the sun and everyone, players and fans, are really up for the last home game of the season against a Spurs team who, despite what their manager says, will inevitably have half an eye on their final next week.
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Sounds like he's taking it very seriously if he's already planning half-time substitutions. Some people might see that as a pre-season tactic, but Ange is playing 4D Buckaroo again.
I watched his PC.
Hmmmmm, it’s not what he said, it’s how he said it and bloody hell, he was not convincing in any way, shape or form.
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
I'm still not sure what I'm doing to influence results.
Negative beliefs transmit themselves through everyday behaviour, this translates on match days and when there's a negative and nervous vibe it transmits to the players.
We've been like it for a long time.
Or conversely, it’s Friday night in the sun and everyone, players and fans, are really up for the last home game of the season against a Spurs team who, despite what their manager says, will inevitably have half an eye on their final next week.
Exactly. Wish I could be there.
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I mean, you look at Man City, Cityitis, all that, but what got them over the line wasn't a change in the fan mentality was it? It was spending unholy amounts of unholy money to employ talented people to put together a winning team. Obviously the fans make some difference, but being nervous and lacking confidence because I've basically never seen the Villa win anything doesn't have to translate to a hostile atmosphere (I've never booed the team in my life).
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I've tended to be drunker at away matches than home ones, meaning I'm more confident in matches that we are statistically much more likely to lose. Theory doesn't work.
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I mean, you look at Man City, Cityitis, all that, but what got them over the line wasn't a change in the fan mentality was it? It was spending unholy amounts of unholy money to employ talented people to put together a winning team. Obviously the fans make some difference, but being nervous and lacking confidence because I've basically never seen the Villa win anything doesn't have to translate to a hostile atmosphere (I've never booed the team in my life).
Their atmosphere is renowned and definitely pushes them over the line regularly. You can hear the roar from the empty seats.
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Really looking forward to being there on friday. Can't often get or, indeed, afford tickets these days but one of my mates has dropped out due to the date change and there's a free spot in the motor from Shrewsbury. Hopefully it'll be a stunning night with a few cheeky sherberts round and about before and after. 4-1 or some such would please me mightily, especially if Utd can fluke something against Chelsea.
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Massive game tomorrow night. Qualifying for the Champions' League is more important than the FA cup semi-final for the club in terms of the short and medium term future. The money generated, if we qualify, will help to keep the PSR wolf from the door and make the club a more attractive proposition for top-quality players which in turn will improve our prospects of success and silverware. It might not happen anyway, but 3 points tomorrow night won't do us any harm. The thought of hoping Man Ure win tomorrow runs contrary to all my principles but needs must. Come on, Villa!!
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I wonder how much the mentality of playing the artist formerly known as Man Utd has got them through to the final of the Europa against euro sides who haven’t realised they are utterly shite. Bit like when we play them and STILL shit the bed. Spurs and Man Utd are crap. If we can’t get 6 points it’s going to be a mentality thing.
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Even taking in our propensity to mess up and the fact that football can do silly things like last weeks result at Southampton
Even after all that I can’t think of any games that are more forgone conclusion wins for both home teams than the two playing tomorrow night
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I think we will win and so will Chelsea tomorrow night . This is going right to the wire so strap the fuck in .
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Perhaps if we didn't keep saying it's going to go wrong, it might not so often.
I'm still not sure what I'm doing to influence results.
Negative beliefs transmit themselves through everyday behaviour, this translates on match days and when there's a negative and nervous vibe it transmits to the players.
We've been like it for a long time.
Or conversely, it’s Friday night in the sun and everyone, players and fans, are really up for the last home game of the season against a Spurs team who, despite what their manager says, will inevitably have half an eye on their final next week.
Yes, if there’s one thing that’s almost as important as having a better team and manager than them, it’s the atmosphere, and it’s going to be brilliant tomorrow night. I’m against the inconvenience it’s caused, but changing the game to Friday night from Sunday afternoon is good for us I reckon. Sunday night might have been even better though.
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Based on his comments today the key players may well be rested.
https://x.com/bbcsport/status/1923134866956206513?s=46
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Can’t wait for tonight, never ever over confident, but feck me this is the game we’d want. Spurs always feels like a big game stemming from childhood, warm sunny evening, no work tomorrow, something massive to play for, last home game, our home form is the best its ever been, their first team nevermind their second team is in relegation form in a normal season when the bottom three weren’t so bad.
It could all go wrong, but it won’t, even with our own injuries and suspensions, we are the form team in the league and much much better than them.
Bring it the fuck on.
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Can’t wait for tonight, never ever over confident, but feck me this is the game we’d want. Spurs always feels like a big game stemming from childhood, warm sunny evening, no work tomorrow, something massive to play for, last home game, our home form is the best its ever been, their first team nevermind their second team is in relegation form in a normal season when the bottom three weren’t so bad.
It could all go wrong, but it won’t, even with our own injuries and suspensions, we are the form team in the league and much much better than them.
Bring it the fuck on.
Absolutely. Everything I do today, the already completed drive to work, being at work, the drive home, whatever awaits at home, dinner, it's all just marking time up to kick off.
Just over 12½ hours and counting
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If Villa start fast and aggressive, get an early goal, big ange will be pleading for mercy and say "take the points mate, just don't hurt us" and the final 80 mins will be a "disgrace of djon" style yawnfest.
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I spent the night dreaming that I was on the way to this match, being given lifts by my Sister, people I worked with and old girlfriends without ever actually arriving, so don't ask me the result.
I blame the Sagwalla.
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I spent the night dreaming that I was on the way to this match, being given lifts by my Sister, people I worked with and old girlfriends without ever actually arriving, so don't ask me the result.
I blame the Sagwalla.
Did you score?
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Full of hope, dreams, terror, ill-foreboding. Must be matchday.
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It may have already been mentioned, but the match in the 92/93 season where we needed to beat Spurs in the PL title run-in.
We battered them, Saunders hit the woodwork about 8 times and we drew 0-0. It was then we realised it might not be our year...
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It may have already been mentioned, but the match in the 92/93 season where we needed to beat Spurs in the PL title run-in.
We battered them, Saunders hit the woodwork about 8 times and we drew 0-0. It was then we realised it might not be our year...
I was at the game, I think it was a widweek game and I drove up from London. I think that was the day that I thought the Gods were against us.
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It may have already been mentioned, but the match in the 92/93 season where we needed to beat Spurs in the PL title run-in.
We battered them, Saunders hit the woodwork about 8 times and we drew 0-0. It was then we realised it might not be our year...
I was at the game, I think it was a widweek game and I drove up from London. I think that was the day that I thought the Gods were against us.
I've always put it down to that goal Steve Bruce scored against Sheffield Wednesday in added time. Fast forward 20+ years and he was the one who stopped the rot when we were free-falling in the Championship. Then Deano came along and the rest is history!
Life is strange...
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It may have already been mentioned, but the match in the 92/93 season where we needed to beat Spurs in the PL title run-in.
We battered them, Saunders hit the woodwork about 8 times and we drew 0-0. It was then we realised it might not be our year...
I was at the game, I think it was a widweek game and I drove up from London. I think that was the day that I thought the Gods were against us.
I've always put it down to that goal Steve Bruce scored against Sheffield Wednesday in added time. Fast forward 20+ years and he was the one who stopped the rot when we were free-falling in the Championship. Then Deano came along and the rest is history!
Life is strange...
That was the season ‘Fergie Time’ became a thing wasn’t it.
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I spent the night dreaming that I was on the way to this match, being given lifts by my Sister, people I worked with and old girlfriends without ever actually arriving, so don't ask me the result.
I blame the Sagwalla.
Did you score?
I can't be dealing with that carry on when the Villa are about to ko!
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We drew the away game 0-0 that season as well and again we absolutely battered them. We really were there bogey team early to mid 90s. So many memories.... 5-2, 4-2, 1-0 Staunton pen, 2-1 Earl Barrett, 4-3 Saunders, 1-0 Bosnich Klinsmann, 2-1 Yorke mazy run.... Happy days. I read yesterday that of the pathetic 7 league goals scored by Stan Collymore four of them came vs Spurs.
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It may have already been mentioned, but the match in the 92/93 season where we needed to beat Spurs in the PL title run-in.
We battered them, Saunders hit the woodwork about 8 times and we drew 0-0. It was then we realised it might not be our year...
It was Coventry wasn't it? Easter Saturday.
The Argus came out before the ref blew up at Newton Heath.
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Cov was the Easter (Fergietime game at Old Trafford) - Spurs was a couple of weeks before. Massive queues for the Holte that night too.
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It may have already been mentioned, but the match in the 92/93 season where we needed to beat Spurs in the PL title run-in.
We battered them, Saunders hit the woodwork about 8 times and we drew 0-0. It was then we realised it might not be our year...
It was Coventry wasn't it? Easter Saturday.
The Mercury came out before the ref blew up at Newton Heath.
Fixed.
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Huge, huge game tonight. I’m really looking forward to it.
Weirdly, I think Man U might nick a point at Chelsea too.
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That we're playing Spurs and Man Utd makes the games even bigger, given I detest both clubs. There'll be some weird results this weekend I reckon, I just hope we're not one of them!
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There's no PL fixture you'd want more tomorrow than Spurs at home. If you can't be confident against a side that's shit, only concerned about another game and have a bunch out injured you'll never be confident.
Would prefer Saints or Lesta tbh
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No, look what happened to NF and C115. They had nothing to play for so we're relaxed and didn't give shit.
Spuds are shit and don't want this match having a major final to play in a few more days.
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I think we will win and so will Chelsea tomorrow night . This is going right to the wire so strap the fuck in .
I feel physically (car-) sick /kippax
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A bit late in the day but, my brother has just told me he can’t make the match tonight so I have a spare ticket. Great seats for a one off bargain of £40. If interested please pm me and we can arrange to meet by the McGregor statue around 7pm
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Eight nil win under the lights then on to smashing the club formerly known as Man Utd by a similar amount.
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Far too much talk on media about Spurs not taking this seriously and will get thrashed. All set up for a shock where Ange actually looks up into the camera post match with “I told you” comment.
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Aston Villa are unbeaten in 20 home games across all competitions, winning 14 and drawing six, their longest such run for 48 years.
They have won seven successive fixtures at Villa Park in all competitions, scoring 17 goals during this sequence.
Villa are seeking their 32nd win in all competitions in this campaign, which would set a new club record in a top-flight season.
Unai Emery is set to take charge of his 100th Premier League game as Villa manager. He's won 53, drawn 21 and lost 25 of his previous 99 matches, with his side scoring 172 goals and conceding 136.
Ollie Watkins scored his 75th Premier League goal for Aston Villa last time out, overtaking Gabriel Agbonlahor to become the club's highest goalscorer in the competition.
Three of those 75 goals have come against Tottenham but none have been scored at Villa Park.
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Fear that strongest 11!
Ange Postecoglou's side are one of four top-flight teams to lose 10 or more league games in 2025 – the other three sides have all been relegated.
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I don’t know the meaning of the word ‘hubris’ and I’ll never have to.
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I spent the night dreaming that I was on the way to this match, being given lifts by my Sister, people I worked with and old girlfriends without ever actually arriving, so don't ask me the result.
Last night I dreamt that I was on the piss in a London box park with 350 Italian Chelsea fans who were over for their game and were sound. At 16.36 I realised I'd flown Ryanair to London rather than Birmingham by mistake. I rushed to a derelict tube station to get a train to Birmingham. As I waited for the lift I was transported to the middle of a Dublin housing estate by two women with telekinetic and psychic powers (along with the women's boyfriends). I tried to ask them to transport me to Birmingham for the game but there was a long queue of people waiting for psychic readings so they wouldn't see me. I missed the game, and thus don't know the score.
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Those are great drugs
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Are we on TV tonight? I'm guessing not but thought I'd ask.
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Are we on TV tonight? I'm guessing not but thought I'd ask.
It's on SKY, I'm off down the pub.
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I spent the night dreaming that I was on the way to this match, being given lifts by my Sister, people I worked with and old girlfriends without ever actually arriving, so don't ask me the result.
I blame the Sagwalla.
Waiting for Odo...
...bert
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Only good thing Spurs will do today is this pic of the Holte in the sun.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrFb9QOXsAAsVGJ?format=jpg&name=large)
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Spurs team have already been out on the pitch
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrE5K0bXEAETtmS?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Are we on TV tonight? I'm guessing not but thought I'd ask.
It's on SKY, I'm off down the pub.
Fab! I was hoping it would be but won't have time to check until later
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You'll need to make sure the landlord doesn't switch over to the Chelsea-Man U game at half-time.
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Nervous as this has the potential of being a real weekend ruiner.
Win - and its straight over to the Chelsea game and listening to the rest of the weekends action with excitment and antipication whilst poterring around in the sun doing chores.
Lose and those chores become unbearable, the rest of the football becomes irrelevant and all I have left is my family and friends
FML
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You'll need to make sure the landlord doesn't switch over to the Chelsea-Man U game at half-time.
Why ? If we are already 6-0 up and Man U are actually making a game of it ?
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It depends where you are. I'd imagine there are plenty of places in England where there would be more demand for watching Man U than us.
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Nervous as this has the potential of being a real season ruiner.
FTFY
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Given that he said Son was playing, that seems about as rotated as Tottenham were ever going to be. We should really be winning.
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Give them a chance, it only kicks off at 7.30pm.
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I spent the night dreaming that I was on the way to this match, being given lifts by my Sister, people I worked with and old girlfriends without ever actually arriving, so don't ask me the result.
Last night I dreamt that I was on the piss in a London box park with 350 Italian Chelsea fans who were over for their game and were sound. At 16.36 I realised I'd flown Ryanair to London rather than Birmingham by mistake. I rushed to a derelict tube station to get a train to Birmingham. As I waited for the lift I was transported to the middle of a Dublin housing estate by two women with telekinetic and psychic powers (along with the women's boyfriends). I tried to ask them to transport me to Birmingham for the game but there was a long queue of people waiting for psychic readings so they wouldn't see me. I missed the game, and thus don't know the score.
That sounds like a class night in!