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Title: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2025, 07:30:48 PM
Piece of piss, never in doubt.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on May 10, 2025, 07:31:59 PM
If we're going to do it in 1-0s so be it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 10, 2025, 07:32:06 PM
That is a fucking superb result. Arguably the hardest we have left. We really need to now batter Spurs and Man U.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on May 10, 2025, 07:32:06 PM
Fucking hell.

I am suffering with palpitations
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 10, 2025, 07:32:30 PM
Cash motm. Immense performance
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: algy on May 10, 2025, 07:32:35 PM
The result we needed. Next.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dr.chekov on May 10, 2025, 07:32:46 PM
What a result!!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 10, 2025, 07:32:52 PM
Get in! Big win and a great defensive effort. 2 out of the must-win-4 done and dusted and on paper this one was the hardest.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on May 10, 2025, 07:33:22 PM
the back four along with booby and onana were great.

Bournemouth and that ref especially can f right off
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: bilsim on May 10, 2025, 07:33:27 PM
Outstanding performance against a horrible side whose dsrk arts nearly won out. This was the difficult one, let's smash Spuds and Yanited now
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on May 10, 2025, 07:33:27 PM
Thank fuck for that. Great performance, well deserved.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on May 10, 2025, 07:33:47 PM
Can't believe we managed to hang on!

We can defend after all!

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 07:34:13 PM
Only let down was the sending off. Ramsey misses next week against Spurs and we don't have many left sided players. I wonder if Maatsen might start further forward like he ended today.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: enigma on May 10, 2025, 07:34:29 PM
Nearly blew it right at the end there.

Cash was fantastic. MotM
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2025, 07:34:34 PM
Great win. Now don't rock the boat again, Ollie, when Redknapp and Hendrie interview you on Sky post-match.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 10, 2025, 07:35:02 PM
Great win. I thought Matty Cash was man of the match with a great performance. I hope never to see Stuart Attwell ever again.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: SaddVillan on May 10, 2025, 07:35:07 PM
That's a total team performance.

Backs to the wall stuff at times and a great win despite one of the most abysmal refereeing performances  all season.

And his  reward, - Stuart Twatwell is in charge of the Cup Final next week.

Be afraid, very afraid.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on May 10, 2025, 07:35:20 PM
Cash and Onana were superb, we were easily the better side until the red.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2025, 07:35:49 PM
That is a fucking superb result. Arguably the hardest we have left. We really need to now batter Spurs and Man U.

A pity JJ will miss Spurs, he plays well against them. Rashford, get your arse back from Saudi.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 07:35:56 PM
Can't believe we managed to hang on!

We can defend after all!
Incoming call from Matty Cash
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on May 10, 2025, 07:35:57 PM
Ramsey nearly cost us with that red. Soft maybe, but he was on a yellow and should know better than to put his hands on his opponent.

Thank fuck that's over.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 10, 2025, 07:36:06 PM
Only let down was the sending off. Ramsey misses next week against Spurs and we don't have many left sided players. I wonder if Maatsen might start further forward like he ended today.

I'd imagine Rogers goes left and Bailey gets a start.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 07:36:09 PM
Quote
"That last minute chance was massive -  a huge save from Emi Martinez, then a brilliant clearance off the line from Matty Cash.

"That first Semenyo chance had an xG of 0.5. It was by far and away the best chance of the game.

"But Villa deserved their clean sheet. They limited a normally brilliant Bournemouth side going forwards to just 0.8 xG. It's their second-lowest attacking return of the season.

"The lowest? The return league game against Villa. Emery has had Iraola's number this season."


So most of their xG was on that last minute chance.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on May 10, 2025, 07:36:15 PM
Yessss!!!
🙌😃🌟
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: HK Villan on May 10, 2025, 07:36:20 PM
So there is a God! 

Well done lads, and especially Ollie… congratulations!!!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on May 10, 2025, 07:36:29 PM
Get in there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 10, 2025, 07:36:31 PM
Result of the season for me that.  Love Ollie.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chap on May 10, 2025, 07:37:17 PM
Cash been excellent past 2 games.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 07:37:23 PM
That's a total team performance.

Backs to the wall stuff at times and a great win despite one of the most abysmal refereeing performances  all season.

And his  reward, - Stuart Twatwell is in charge of the Cup Final next week.

Be afraid, very afraid.

No skin of my chin. Reds all round for me if he wants as I think they will apply to their last games.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Taylor on May 10, 2025, 07:37:46 PM
Massive. Massive win
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Crown Hill on May 10, 2025, 07:38:07 PM
Great win despite the best efforts of Cov supporter Attwell.

Not sure why Mings came off. I’ve wondered for a while if he is carrying an injury.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 07:38:29 PM
First win there at the tinpot shed since the Gestede game . Tinpot wankers and dark arts fuckers too .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2025, 07:38:38 PM
Ramsey nearly cost us with that red. Soft maybe, but he was on a yellow and should know better than to put his hands on his opponent.

Thank fuck that's over.

It wasn't the hands, the ref thought he had clipped their lad when he fell over himself. Stupid call by the ref.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on May 10, 2025, 07:39:58 PM
Massive massive result and very professional performance. The Cherries never created a decent chance until that last cross. Bournemouth Lions are having a great day .......
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on May 10, 2025, 07:40:01 PM
Ramsey nearly cost us with that red. Soft maybe, but he was on a yellow and should know better than to put his hands on his opponent.

Thank fuck that's over.

It wasn't the hands, the ref thought he had clipped their lad when he fell over himself. Stupid call by the ref.

He did clip him tbf.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 07:40:10 PM
Ramsey nearly cost us with that red. Soft maybe, but he was on a yellow and should know better than to put his hands on his opponent.

Thank fuck that's over.

It wasn't the hands, the ref thought he had clipped their lad when he fell over himself. Stupid call by the ref.

Did he indicate which foul he was giving because Ramsey also reached onto his shoulder to pull back as well.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 10, 2025, 07:40:40 PM
Cash and Onana were superb, we were easily the better side until the red.
Yep agree with that.
Big big win
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: BC Villain on May 10, 2025, 07:40:44 PM
Massive result that in came inspite of a diabolical refereeing performance
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on May 10, 2025, 07:41:07 PM
All about the result.

Totally stiffled the Cherries from playing.

Foxes go hunting in the Forest tomorrow please. Mags and Chelsea bore draw with 4 sendings off and 8 injuries please.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2025, 07:41:21 PM
Result of the season for me that.  Love Ollie.

Bayern v Bournemouth for the right to play Villa.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Scovilla on May 10, 2025, 07:41:39 PM
Just got home and saw that magnificent
 result.
Well done Villa. Glad ollie scored.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on May 10, 2025, 07:42:48 PM
The fact the ref dealt so poorly with the foul for Ramseys first booking, made the sending off possible
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on May 10, 2025, 07:44:24 PM
We didn’t have a corner ???
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 10, 2025, 07:44:54 PM
You can't react like that if you're Ramsey, though. It was a needless, daft first booking.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 07:44:59 PM
Cash and Onana were superb, we were easily the better side until the red.
Yep agree with that.
Big big win

Their last shot at goal was in the 26th minute. The we were suddenly down to 10 men and they could throw more forward and went from 2 shots 1 on target to 10 and 4. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on May 10, 2025, 07:45:02 PM
Good win, great defensive performance, restricted them to very little to be fair.  Guaranteed European football now.  Bournemouth can fuck off, cheating horrible side who fooled the dickhead of a Referee.  Lovely goal, hard working effort, we didn't play that well but deserved the win.  Get in there!!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 07:45:51 PM
Huge win, absolutely huge. Ollie you are the man.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on May 10, 2025, 07:46:10 PM
You can't react like that if you're Ramsey, though. It was a needless, daft first booking.

Their guy should have been sent off for the professional foul.  Absolutely no intention to play the ball.  Ramsey did react though.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: HolteLower on May 10, 2025, 07:46:19 PM
Superb 3 points. Tough but we did it - so valuable at this time of the season. UTV.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 10, 2025, 07:46:41 PM
Im exhausted    now.

That bournemth effort at the end , blimey , martinez and then cash , both was brilliant today.

Onana was really good too , congrats to Ollie , he looked bloody happy at the end .

Rogers was poor but has a habit of getting assists even when poor.

JJ was good to be honest , very harsh for that when  Semenyo got no yellow for his foul.

They was dirty and the ref was bloody terrible.

Amazing result to be honest , so relieved for 3 pts and the Villa keep our season going.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ROBBO on May 10, 2025, 07:47:02 PM
Ramsey was manhandled all game, the Ref let them get away with it, a very dirty side.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on May 10, 2025, 07:47:06 PM
Great result & performance from everyone. I'm as critical of him as anyone but Cash was great, again. Rogers is running on empty.

Attwell is fucking useless.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on May 10, 2025, 07:47:12 PM
Huge result, well done Villa and well done Ollie on getting the record.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Baldy on May 10, 2025, 07:47:45 PM
Commanding performance. Reminded me of the Arsenal Invincibles.

Well done lads.

Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 10, 2025, 07:48:54 PM
Cash motm. Immense performance
Agree, best game I have seen him play.
Special mention for Onana and Kamara , held the midfield under constant pressure.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: SaddVillan on May 10, 2025, 07:49:28 PM
That's a total team performance.

Backs to the wall stuff at times and a great win despite one of the most abysmal refereeing performances  all season.

And his  reward, - Stuart Twatwell is in charge of the Cup Final next week.

Be afraid, very afraid.

No skin of my chin. Reds all round for me if he wants as I think they will apply to their last games.

Dream scenario?

Spuds play their kids next Friday and we stuff them.

Spuds then tonk Scum on Wednesday, several on both sides injured

Yanited so demoralised, we run up a cricket score at Mould Trafford last match of the season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 10, 2025, 07:50:45 PM
Excellent result. Ironic how we are finishing the season pretty good defensively when it's been our achilles heal a lot of the season.
18 wins and 63 pts equals 1995-96 - and we've still got two games to go. It's crazy to think we could actually overtake last.seasons points tally and still miss out on the top five but it's now three straight seasons of 18+ league wins and the 60 points barrier bring broken which is excellent consistency for this club and a decent record for Unai. Let's batter Spurs now.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 10, 2025, 07:52:16 PM
For me, that was the most difficult of our remaining fixtures.

Is that 7 of the last 8 won now? We have found form - and defensive resilience (please, for the love of God, no 'statistically this is the best defence in the world' back and forth here) - exactly when we needed it.

What a job this manager is doing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2025, 07:52:18 PM
Commanding performance. Reminded me of the Arsenal Invincibles.

Well done lads.



Steady on! We barely troubled them in the second half. Was hardly Henry, Pires and Ljunberg playing sexy football.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PhilVill on May 10, 2025, 07:53:49 PM
Truly dreadful ref, some fabulous performances throughout the pitch. Maatsen a good shout for left mid next week, Rogers as number 10 and SJM on the right....

Anyway, superb and come on Leicester!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on May 10, 2025, 07:55:18 PM
Im exhausted    now.

That bournemth effort at the end , blimey , martinez and then cash , both was brilliant today.

Onana was really good too , congrats to Ollie , he looked bloody happy at the end .

Rogers was poor but has a habit of getting assists even when poor.

JJ was good to be honest , very harsh for that when  Semenyo got no yellow for his foul.

They was dirty and the ref was bloody terrible.

Amazing result to be honest , so relieved for 3 pts and the Villa keep our season going.

Cook took out Onana on a break and didn't get booked either.

Given he gave the Asensio and Ramsey ones when neither was a 'bad' foul it's clearly inconsistent at best, which is always the problem with Atwell and is why so many games he's in charge of end up with flashpoints. I don't think it's anything to do with who he supports, he's just shit at the job and too arrogant to even realise it's his own fault he has such a hard time keeping games controlled.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on May 10, 2025, 07:56:14 PM
It was a terrible match in my opinion but the result is what matters.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2025, 07:56:46 PM
Iraola being balanced in his post-match interview on 5Live.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 07:57:47 PM
That clearance from Cash at the end - superb.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: DB on May 10, 2025, 07:58:09 PM
Get in!!!
Result all that matters.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on May 10, 2025, 07:58:14 PM
Proper team performance with social mention for Cash and Onana. Onwards and upwards!!!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 07:58:18 PM
That clearance from Cash at the end - superb.

And the initial save from Emi.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on May 10, 2025, 07:59:01 PM
Cook and Smith both lucky not to get second yellows. Ref so poor. How costly would an equaliser have been..
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 07:59:05 PM
Iraola being balanced in his post-match interview on 5Live.

Hopefully him and his team take their frustrations out on their next opponents and smash them physically and with goals.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 10, 2025, 07:59:09 PM
For me, that was the most difficult of our remaining fixtures.

Is that 7 of the last 8 won now? We have found form - and defensive resilience (please, for the love of God, no 'statistically this is the best defence in the world' back and forth here) - exactly when we needed it.

What a job this manager is doing.

Hmm, I want an update as it counts as a clean-sheet for Mings and Torres but if we had conceded after Mings went off, would Percy's stats be flexible enough for that? And indeed, have any past substitutions in defence with goal concessions happening afterwards, been captured in the data-set so far?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on May 10, 2025, 07:59:40 PM
That clearance from Cash at the end - superb.
Emi made a brilliant save, cash got himself infront of the forward and put him off. He didn’t clear it.
It was still massively impressive though
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyellis on May 10, 2025, 07:59:57 PM
Im exhausted    now.

That bournemth effort at the end , blimey , martinez and then cash , both was brilliant today.

Onana was really good too , congrats to Ollie , he looked bloody happy at the end .

Rogers was poor but has a habit of getting assists even when poor.

JJ was good to be honest , very harsh for that when  Semenyo got no yellow for his foul.

They was dirty and the ref was bloody terrible.

Amazing result to be honest , so relieved for 3 pts and the Villa keep our season going.

Cook took out Onana on a break and didn't get booked either.

Given he gave the Asensio and Ramsey ones when neither was a 'bad' foul it's clearly inconsistent at best, which is always the problem with Atwell and is why so many games he's in charge of end up with flashpoints. I don't think it's anything to do with who he supports, he's just shit at the job and too arrogant to even realise it's his own fault he has such a hard time keeping games controlled.
I accept its a tough job but the standard is appalling and Atwell is the perfect example to prove the point.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 10, 2025, 08:01:44 PM
That clearance from Cash at the end - superb.
Emi made a brilliant save, cash got himself infront of the forward and put him off. He didn’t clear it.
It was still massively impressive though

I feel like I'm going mad now. I'm sure Cash cleared it?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:01:51 PM

Hmm, I want an update as it counts as a clean-sheet for Mings and Torres but if we had conceded after Mings went off, would Percy's stats be flexible enough for that? And indeed, have any past substitutions in defence with goal concessions happening afterwards, been captured in the data-set so far?

I think when Carlos came on against Spurs and we let in 3 during that time got a mention or two....
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:02:27 PM
That clearance from Cash at the end - superb.
Emi made a brilliant save, cash got himself infront of the forward and put him off. He didn’t clear it.
It was still massively impressive though

I feel like I'm going mad now. I'm sure Cash cleared it?

Was it given a GK or a corner?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 10, 2025, 08:04:09 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/bournemouth-vs-aston-villa/report/506157
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on May 10, 2025, 08:04:57 PM
Villa really dug deep for this. Fantastic stuff from the 10 men at the end. Rashford injured, Tielemans injured, Ramsey suspended. Just hope the other sides are also suffering.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 10, 2025, 08:05:44 PM
That clearance from Cash at the end - superb.
Emi made a brilliant save, cash got himself infront of the forward and put him off. He didn’t clear it.
It was still massively impressive though

I feel like I'm going mad now. I'm sure Cash cleared it?

Was it given a GK or a corner?

Sky report says this 'only for Martinez to parry the first shot, with Cash then denying Daniel Jebbison with a clearance off the line.'
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 10, 2025, 08:05:53 PM
Massive, massive win given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: steamer on May 10, 2025, 08:09:39 PM
That's a total team performance.

Backs to the wall stuff at times and a great win despite one of the most abysmal refereeing performances  all season.

And his  reward, - Stuart Twatwell is in charge of the Cup Final next week.

Be afraid, very afraid.

No skin of my chin. Reds all round for me if he wants as I think they will apply to their last games.

Dream scenario?

Spuds play their kids next Friday and we stuff them.

Spuds then tonk Scum on Wednesday, several on both sides injured

Yanited so demoralised, we run up a cricket score at Mould Trafford last match of the season.
good for me
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on May 10, 2025, 08:14:08 PM
Our defensive shape was exceptional. Struggle with the ball especially in the second half but got over the line. Unless Mings was injured, that was a stupid decision to bring on Torres. He was at fault for both their chances and was a liability in the circumstances. Ramsey put us under pressure big time. On we go!

Martinez 8 - back to his best really. So commanding in the box and sharp off his line.
Cash 9 - delighted for him, defensively rock solid and saved us at end
Konsa 8 - I've been very critical but thought that was maybe his best performance of the season
Mings 7 - distribution not Mings friend but made no sense to hook him. Pocketed Evanilson
Digne 7 - created that chance for Kamara, got rolled by Semenyo for that shot past the post but another solid display
Kamara 7 - much better today. Sharp to support Cash and got on a lot of ball
Onana 7 - very good first half when we were dominant, faded a bit in second half
Rogers 6 - worked hard anyway and a great assist, got very tired
Ramsey 4 - decent first half but was fading in second before letting us down. Touch has to be improved
Asensio 5 - unlucky with his shot in a decent first half but not doing anywhere near enough currently to be starting games
Watkins 7 - worked like a trooper and a brilliant goal

Torres was awful, McGinn struggled to get into it a bit.

Emery 7 - will be delighted with the response since the Palace debacle and two clean sheets despite multiple changes. Decision to bring Torres on for Mings was reckless and nearly cost us.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 10, 2025, 08:16:06 PM
Big shout out for Matty Cash.
He won the ball back which set up the goal, and made a great clearance at the end.
MOTM, without those two big moments our CL challenge would be over tonight.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:16:08 PM
Was it given a GK or a corner?

Sky report says this 'only for Martinez to parry the first shot, with Cash then denying Daniel Jebbison with a clearance off the line.'

Just watched the highlights, Atwell points for a GK so last touch was the attacker. Not stating Cash didn't contact first which changed the angle of contact, but definitely would have been easier without Cash so he should still get massive credit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:17:12 PM
Our defensive shape was exceptional. Struggle with the ball especially in the second half but got over the line. Unless Mings was injured, that was a stupid decision to bring on Torres. He was at fault for both their chances and was a liability in the circumstances. Ramsey put us under pressure big time. On we go!

Martinez 8 - back to his best really. So commanding in the box and sharp off his line.
Cash 9 - delighted for him, defensively rock solid and saved us at end
Konsa 8 - I've been very critical but thought that was maybe his best performance of the season
Mings 7 - distribution not Mings friend but made no sense to hook him. Pocketed Evanilson
Digne 7 - created that chance for Kamara, got rolled by Semenyo for that shot past the post but another solid display
Kamara 7 - much better today. Sharp to support Cash and got on a lot of ball
Onana 7 - very good first half when we were dominant, faded a bit in second half
Rogers 6 - worked hard anyway and a great assist, got very tired
Ramsey 4 - decent first half but was fading in second before letting us down. Touch has to be improved
Asensio 5 - unlucky with his shot in a decent first half but not doing anywhere near enough currently to be starting games
Watkins 7 - worked like a trooper and a brilliant goal

Torres was awful, McGinn struggled to get into it a bit.

Emery 7 - will be delighted with the response since the Palace debacle and two clean sheets despite multiple changes. Decision to bring Torres on for Mings was reckless and nearly cost us.

Letting in all those goals, if only we hadn't brought him on.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: steamer on May 10, 2025, 08:20:27 PM
If we had not conceded that late goal at Cithe we would both be on 64 and same games
Tight Margins
Would it be better if either the Jawdies or Chelsea got a result tomorrow cutting the other one free ?
Or a draw ?
If Jawdies win, Chelsea may be more concerned about winning the ???? cup and not compete for the last two games
What do we think ?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on May 10, 2025, 08:22:09 PM
Draw tomorrow between Saudi and Chavski would absolutely be the best result - would mean if either of them drop another point we finish above them with two wins.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on May 10, 2025, 08:22:49 PM
Briliant result, may not have looked pretty but we had the better quality where it mattered.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 10, 2025, 08:22:49 PM
Iraola, gave a really good interview, comes across a pretty top bloke. Future Villa manager maybe, when the dark moment one day comes.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on May 10, 2025, 08:23:14 PM
I think one of them dropping 3 points is better then them both getting 1. We stay level with one of them then.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 10, 2025, 08:24:37 PM
Draw tomorrow between Saudi and Chavski would absolutely be the best result - would mean if either of them drop another point we finish above them with two wins.

I made the same point in the CL thread. A Newcastle win would be the worst result (but sadly is also the most likely).
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 10, 2025, 08:25:11 PM
I think one of them dropping 3 points is better then them both getting 1. We stay level with one of them then.
Im not sure really, but if Chelsea won, Newcastle having Arsenal away and Everton at home is not an easy last two
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 08:25:23 PM
Cash MOTM is clear , made the only goal and then saved us at the death , what was Torres doing lost his man again as he did earlier when Martinez saved that header .

Overall that's a huge 3 points for us , not a great performance but it's enough.

Mings must be carrying an injury still .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:26:50 PM
I think one of them dropping 3 points is better then them both getting 1. We stay level with one of them then.

But will still finish beneath them anyway if it stayed like that and we matched points. Also hard to call with current matches left which one should lose.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villatillidie25 on May 10, 2025, 08:27:34 PM
Our defensive shape was exceptional. Struggle with the ball especially in the second half but got over the line. Unless Mings was injured, that was a stupid decision to bring on Torres. He was at fault for both their chances and was a liability in the circumstances. Ramsey put us under pressure big time. On we go!

Martinez 8 - back to his best really. So commanding in the box and sharp off his line.
Cash 9 - delighted for him, defensively rock solid and saved us at end
Konsa 8 - I've been very critical but thought that was maybe his best performance of the season
Mings 7 - distribution not Mings friend but made no sense to hook him. Pocketed Evanilson
Digne 7 - created that chance for Kamara, got rolled by Semenyo for that shot past the post but another solid display
Kamara 7 - much better today. Sharp to support Cash and got on a lot of ball
Onana 7 - very good first half when we were dominant, faded a bit in second half
Rogers 6 - worked hard anyway and a great assist, got very tired
Ramsey 4 - decent first half but was fading in second before letting us down. Touch has to be improved
Asensio 5 - unlucky with his shot in a decent first half but not doing anywhere near enough currently to be starting games
Watkins 7 - worked like a trooper and a brilliant goal

Torres was awful, McGinn struggled to get into it a bit.

Emery 7 - will be delighted with the response since the Palace debacle and two clean sheets despite multiple changes. Decision to bring Torres on for Mings was reckless and nearly cost us.

Letting in all those goals, if only we hadn't brought him on.

Ramsey 4 is ludicrous. He was superb for most of the match and his sending off was pretty harsh tbh. Thought Konsa was ok but he can b quite sloppy. Two in central midfield deserve 8 as well, especially Onana.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on May 10, 2025, 08:28:47 PM
Doing what must be done, not the best performance but looking at the teams around us we just made it a whole lot harder for them, Spurs next and unless they are mad I would expect them to put out a much weakened side.

Big games tomorrow, strangely enough I really expect Leicester to put a shift in, as Southampton did today. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on May 10, 2025, 08:28:51 PM
I think one of them dropping 3 points is better then them both getting 1. We stay level with one of them then.

Staying level is no use due to GD. A draw means they are both only one point ahead of us, so both have to win all of their remaining games to guarantee staying above us, and realistically we probably only need to finish above one of them.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 10, 2025, 08:29:49 PM
Watkins 7 - worked like a trooper and a brilliant goal

Slipped in a Piece of Mind reference. Nice work.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:30:34 PM
Cash MOTM is clear , made the only goal and then saved us at the death , what was Torres doing lost his man again as he did earlier when Martinez saved that header .

In neither of those two chances were either player Torres "man". Evinilson ran off the shoulder of Konsa and Semayo ran right past Digne from the Left. The only thing what might have been stated is Mings is better in the air so might have cut out one of them.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on May 10, 2025, 08:30:41 PM
Best defensive display of the season. Brilliant team effort.

Gives us a great chance of top 5.

Love this team.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on May 10, 2025, 08:31:36 PM
Got to say, well done to Watkins. I can be critical of him sometimes but his finish today was pure class - and I mean that. He just deflected it right where it needed to go, a really deft touch and a superb finish. I didn't actually know he had that in his locker. Incredible achievement to be Villa's Premier League top scorer too. He ought to be really proud of himself, as he's above some serious names.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 10, 2025, 08:34:11 PM
Great win, could have been 2-0 had Asensio's gone in. Onana was very good and really chuffed for Ollie. That second Ramsey yellow was lazy and crap reffing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:35:14 PM
One of those things that all our chances happened so close together that if one had scored, we might have eased off and took the first goal.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 10, 2025, 08:38:18 PM
We made hard work of that but in the end it's the three vital points are all that matter.

Next.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 08:39:13 PM
Did we have a shot 2nd half ? We just seemed to sit back and invite pressure .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 08:42:11 PM
Got to say well done to Torres. I never thought we could last 25 mins with him on the pitch and not concede. A very welcome surprise.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on May 10, 2025, 08:42:21 PM
Missed the second half, what was it like
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2025, 08:42:55 PM
Missed the second half, what was it like

Majestic, we were better than Brazil '70.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 08:44:31 PM
Missed the second half, what was it like

Comfortable for 35 mins then Ramsey's bad decisions making / Atwell deciding only Villa players should be carded for fouls put us under pressure for the last 15.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 08:45:55 PM
The Ref seemed to decide this game was about him . Wanker
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on May 10, 2025, 08:46:41 PM
So there is a God! 

Well done lads, and especially Ollie… congratulations!!!
Yes there is, said a few prayers for them
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on May 10, 2025, 08:47:24 PM
That’ll do.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 10, 2025, 08:47:50 PM
For me, that was the most difficult of our remaining fixtures.

Is that 7 of the last 8 won now? We have found form - and defensive resilience (please, for the love of God, no 'statistically this is the best defence in the world' back and forth here) - exactly when we needed it.

What a job this manager is doing.

Hmm, I want an update as it counts as a clean-sheet for Mings and Torres but if we had conceded after Mings went off, would Percy's stats be flexible enough for that? And indeed, have any past substitutions in defence with goal concessions happening afterwards, been captured in the data-set so far?

I’d say that’s a clean sheet for the Cash/Konsa/Mings/Digne quartet as they played the majority. The one against Man Utd at home was one for Cash/Carlos/Pau/Digne, as Konsa went off after about 12 minutes. Brighton 2-2 counted as one goal conceded by Torres before he went off, one by Mings after he came on.

Nobody is saying any Villa defence is the best in the world, although Konsa/Mings must be one of the best CB partnerships in the PL. Anyone arguing that they’re not Villa’s best is not going ‘back and forth’, more like denying the religion of the Pope.

By the way, I didn’t start it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on May 10, 2025, 08:48:52 PM
Thought they were total pussies. Onana had a good game
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Taylor on May 10, 2025, 08:49:14 PM
Did we have a shot 2nd half ? We just seemed to sit back and invite pressure .
We won.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on May 10, 2025, 08:52:39 PM
That was a good display to nullify their forwards.

Cash was great all game and Onana did very well. The defence were really solid.

I guess I can't fault Rogers and Watkins, but they didn't offer much else today. Ramsey was just daft for both yellows, which were both deserved.

I couldn't believe that was Konsa's first yellow card in the league this season, especually considering the number of games he has played. His only other yellow was at Club Brugge in the CL group league stage.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 10, 2025, 08:52:45 PM
Big shout out for Matty Cash.
He won the ball back which set up the goal, and made a great clearance at the end.
MOTM, without those two big moments our CL challenge would be over tonight.

Agreed. Heroic stuff.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 10, 2025, 08:54:48 PM
Many good things about the win today but one of best is we won 4 points v Man City
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on May 10, 2025, 08:56:46 PM
Thought our gk / defense and Onana haad good games - Marco had a good 20 minutes, Ollie looked much better after his goal.  Ramsay was also good up to his needless red.

Rogers looks a shadow of what he was but still got an assist and our attacking play doesnt seem quite right - but its been like it all season.  We missed Teilemans (or dougie) - someone a bit cuter with the ball.   

Kamara indifferent form continued - not sure if its the contract talk

Personally - I think despite his obvious ability - Marco contribution is offset by what we lose from rogers.  And Marco hasnt added enough in the last 9 games to make it worth while.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on May 10, 2025, 08:57:27 PM
Big shout out for Matty Cash.
He won the ball back which set up the goal, and made a great clearance at the end.
MOTM, without those two big moments our CL challenge would be over tonight.

Agreed. Heroic stuff.
I think he has been excellent in recent months
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 10, 2025, 09:05:48 PM
I think one of them dropping 3 points is better then them both getting 1. We stay level with one of them then.

But will still finish beneath them anyway if it stayed like that and we matched points. Also hard to call with current matches left which one should lose.

John Townley on Claret & Blue podcast did a really good explainer the other day.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 09:11:09 PM
Got to say well done to Torres. I never thought we could last 25 mins with him on the pitch and not concede. A very welcome surprise.

We managed 90 + minutes last week.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on May 10, 2025, 09:18:43 PM
I don’t think we’ve limited Bournemouth as much as we did today in previous performances. Great tactical set up. We looked to have purposefully gone with a lot of ball carriers and it worked. They rotational fouled Ramsey who I thought was very unlucky to be sent off. I wonder if the ref forgot he’d already booked him That melee in the first half was because of a quite nasty foul on Ramsey. Martinez got booked for being Martinez. I think the ref forgot he was our captain at that point and was entitled to talk to the ref.

Cash was great today. Ollie looked over the moon about becoming our record premier league scorer and I was glad for him. Midfield was awesome. Strange one on Mings if he wasn’t injured.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 10, 2025, 09:26:26 PM
They rotational fouled Ramsey who I thought was very unlucky to be sent off. I wonder if the ref forgot he’d already booked him That melee in the first half was because of a quite nasty foul on Ramsey. Martinez got booked for being Martinez. I think the ref forgot he was our captain at that point and was entitled to talk to the ref.

My thoughts exactly at the time. Really bad reffing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eye digress on May 10, 2025, 09:28:05 PM
Well done Ollie, a tremendous achievement that means we’ll still be talking about him for years to come.

Everyone did their jobs today, starters and subs. Although we were poor in possession, second half especially, we comfortably held them at bay until the sending off changed the dynamic in the final 15 minutes.

Cash maintained his very good form, my MoM. Special mention for Onana’s occasional breakouts from midfield, which were eye-catching.

Next.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: usav on May 10, 2025, 09:31:08 PM
Can we appeal a red when it’s a second yellow?

Exhibit a) their boss saying it wasn’t a yellow.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on May 10, 2025, 09:32:55 PM
Did we have a shot 2nd half ? We just seemed to sit back and invite pressure .
We won.

We can’t ever let that get in the way of a good moan :-)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 09:33:05 PM
Got to say well done to Torres. I never thought we could last 25 mins with him on the pitch and not concede. A very welcome surprise.

We managed 90 + minutes last week.

I know. Quite amazing. Is that a record? He’s basically gone 125 mins without conceding a goal!! Bravo.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 09:37:00 PM
Did you know? You just said you never thought we could go 25 mins with him on the pitch without conceding. Either way, odd to single him out to damn with faint praise after such an important win.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on May 10, 2025, 09:38:34 PM
It was an odd substitution.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 09:38:38 PM
Did you know? You just said you never thought we could go 25 mins with him on the pitch without conceding. Either way, odd to single him out to damn with faint praise after such an important win.

Stats.. please. Is it usual?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 09:40:39 PM
It’s more usual than never - we literally did it last week.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2025, 09:41:15 PM
7 wins out of 8 and some people still try and find negativity. It's weird as fuck.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 09:42:19 PM
It’s more usual than never - we literally did it last week.
Stop avoiding the stats. Your live affair with Pau really blindsides you
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 09:44:42 PM
I’m not avoiding the stats am I - if you keep a clean sheet in a game that means you don’t concede a goal. It doesn’t get much more simple than that. Anyhow as PWS highlights, weird to seek out negativity (in error) in such an important win.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on May 10, 2025, 09:44:46 PM
In the circumstance, this was the best result of the season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 09:44:52 PM
Stop obfuscating

Pau doesn’t concede for 125 mins

I’m saying that’s unusual.

Are you saying that’s not unusual??
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on May 10, 2025, 09:47:57 PM
They rotational fouled Ramsey who I thought was very unlucky to be sent off. I wonder if the ref forgot he’d already booked him That melee in the first half was because of a quite nasty foul on Ramsey. Martinez got booked for being Martinez. I think the ref forgot he was our captain at that point and was entitled to talk to the ref.

My thoughts exactly at the time. Really bad reffing.

He'd booked Asensio for fuck all then five minutes later Semenyo carted Ramsey from behind when he had 30 yards of space in front of him and the ref did nothing, Asensio was pointing it out to him.
Brooks had knocked it out when he sent Ramsey off as well, Atwell is a fucking batch munching, inbred Nuneaton prick.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on May 10, 2025, 09:49:03 PM
Referees a wanker.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Crown Hill on May 10, 2025, 09:51:34 PM
Yep Warwickshire refs shouldn’t ref Warwickshire Clubs! Silly they ever changed that rule!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 09:52:05 PM
I’m saying what matters is that in the last 125 minutes he’s been on the pitch we haven’t conceded and really that’s all that matters. Or more importantly, we’ve won both games and probably don’t need to worry about what it means in terms of one player or another. The squad is doing very well as a collective.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 09:55:55 PM
I’m saying what matters is that in the last 125 minutes he’s been on the pitch we haven’t conceded and really that’s all that matters. Or more importantly, we’ve won both games and probably don’t need to worry about what it means in terms of one player or another. The squad is doing very well as a collective.

Out of interest, and I don’t know. Out of Mings and Torres, who concedes more per minute?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 10:01:45 PM
We got away with after Mings went off , again the defence was all over the place . Brilliant save from Martinez and then an astonishing goal line clearance kept us the 3 points . Mings must be carrying an injury as the substitution made zero sense and put us into real danger of losing points .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 10:02:56 PM
We got away with after Mings went off , again the defence was all over the place . Brilliant save from Martinez and then an astonishing goal line clearance kept us the 3 points . Mings must be carrying an injury as the substitution made zero sense and put us into real danger of losing points .

Let’s just pray that Mings is available for the next two games and then stays with us over the summer.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on May 10, 2025, 10:03:28 PM
Mings carrying a knock could also explain his absences in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 10:04:27 PM
We got away with after Mings went off , again the defence was all over the place . Brilliant save from Martinez and then an astonishing goal line clearance kept us the 3 points . Mings must be carrying an injury as the substitution made zero sense and put us into real danger of losing points .

Let’s just pray that Mings is available for the next two games and then stays with us over the summer.
I think he is injured to be honest and that might be his season over .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on May 10, 2025, 10:06:11 PM
We got away with after Mings went off , again the defence was all over the place . Brilliant save from Martinez and then an astonishing goal line clearance kept us the 3 points . Mings must be carrying an injury as the substitution made zero sense and put us into real danger of losing points .

Can we be clear, Cash did not make a clearance.  It was given as a goal kick.  Jebbison was hampered by Cash, but he headed the ball over the bar.  Good covering by Cash in all fairness but he did not touch the ball. Watched it several times on Sky and it is clear.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 10:08:52 PM
Mings carrying a knock could also explain his absences in the last few weeks.
Yes, starts to make sense now , such a shame he wasn't available v palace and PSG and C115y away .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on May 10, 2025, 10:10:42 PM
I don’t think we’ve limited Bournemouth as much as we did today in previous performances. Great tactical set up. We looked to have purposefully gone with a lot of ball carriers and it worked. They rotational fouled Ramsey who I thought was very unlucky to be sent off. I wonder if the ref forgot he’d already booked him That melee in the first half was because of a quite nasty foul on Ramsey. Martinez got booked for being Martinez. I think the ref forgot he was our captain at that point and was entitled to talk to the ref.

Cash was great today. Ollie looked over the moon about becoming our record premier league scorer and I was glad for him. Midfield was awesome. Strange one on Mings if he wasn’t injured.

I've no problem with Martinez taking a yellow in those circumstances. He's our captain today and that was a bad foul on JJ. Martinez was in the zone today I thought, made lots of good decisions.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on May 10, 2025, 10:15:04 PM
I was in the hospitality section and Mings was limping and stretching out for several minutes before he actually got subbed. Clearly struggling. But immense with it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 10:16:23 PM
Stop obfuscating

Pau doesn’t concede for 125 mins

I’m saying that’s unusual.

Are you saying that’s not unusual??

Well it isn't all Pau is it, there are 11 members of a team, with at least 7 normally tasked to defend when the opposition has the ball. But you only have to look to April where the team with Pau in stopped Brighton from scoring then didn't concede until the 40th minute against PSG.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on May 10, 2025, 10:16:35 PM
Did you know? You just said you never thought we could go 25 mins with him on the pitch without conceding. Either way, odd to single him out to damn with faint praise after such an important win.

Torres certainly gave it a good go when he came on. Ball watching and then some. That Evanilson header, he hasn't a clue where he is. Then at the end, nowhere. Neither of those situations happen if Mings is there. Shocker of a cameo.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 10:19:15 PM
We got away with after Mings went off , again the defence was all over the place . Brilliant save from Martinez and then an astonishing goal line clearance kept us the 3 points . Mings must be carrying an injury as the substitution made zero sense and put us into real danger of losing points .

We were down to 10 men when they had their chances. They had nothing in the previous 10 mins with Torres playing instead of Mings, like they had nothing since the 28th minute with Mings.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on May 10, 2025, 10:19:56 PM
I don't rate Torres in the slightest but he played ok when he came on.  Lost his man a couple of times but that's what good forwards do.  They don't just stand around waiting to be marked.  Was good in the air and was calm enough.  I prefer Mings but Torres did fine.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 10, 2025, 10:20:19 PM
It’s more usual than never - we literally did it last week.
Stop avoiding the stats. Your live affair with Pau really blindsides you
You’re being odd, you brought up Torres and then start digging out someone who replied your post. Enjoy the win and wind it in a bit.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 10:21:42 PM
Did you know? You just said you never thought we could go 25 mins with him on the pitch without conceding. Either way, odd to single him out to damn with faint praise after such an important win.

Torres certainly gave it a good go when he came on. Ball watching and then some. That Evanilson header, he hasn't a clue where he is. Then at the end, nowhere. Neither of those situations happen if Mings is there. Shocker of a cameo.

Well Evanilson was being well marked by Konsa a second before when he glanced over before looking back at the ball. Second one he was marking his man who was running in. Semanyo ran right passed a stationary Digne. Mings "might" have stopped both, but Pau was not helped by his other defenders letting their men go for both chances.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
It’s more usual than never - we literally did it last week.
Stop avoiding the stats. Your live affair with Pau really blindsides you
You’re being odd, you brought up Torres and then start digging out someone who replied your post. Enjoy the win and wind it in a bit.

We are all allowed to reply to a post. “Wind it in a bit”

“You’re being odd”
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 10, 2025, 10:22:53 PM
7 wins out of 8 and some people still try and find negativity. It's weird as fuck.

*Goes on the post-match thread buzzing after a massive win. Oh great, it's another Mings/Torres discussion.*
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 10:24:00 PM
7 wins out of 8 and some people still try and find negativity. It's weird as fuck.

*Goes on the post-match thread buzzing after a massive win. Oh great, it's another Mings/Torres discussion.*

As Emery will. Never satisfied. Perfectionism.

That’s what drives Unai on
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on May 10, 2025, 10:25:08 PM
7 wins out of 8 and some people still try and find negativity. It's weird as fuck.

*Goes on the post-match thread buzzing after a massive win. Oh great, it's another Mings/Torres discussion.*
Imagine how many more pages this would have been if Ollies chance went wide.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 10:27:04 PM
For balance , I didn't think Mings had a great game either , but we always look more secure as a backline when he is there . We were sort of all over the place again when he went off .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 10, 2025, 10:30:33 PM
enjoy this team ,this manager , these owners  , embrace it all

sorry bit deep and emotional
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 10:31:15 PM
I think it’s evident that both have been really key in pushing us to compete for Champions League places in consecutive seasons - they’re both really important. So are the rest of the squad - it’s a tremendous result today, against a good side.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 10, 2025, 10:33:01 PM
They huffed and puffed but I can honestly only remember the semenyo shot that went wide and the one at the end when Cash put the lad off.
Bournemouth are a top ten side who havent lost in 5 and beat Arsenal away last week. Their two chances came when we were down to 10 men. It was really an excellent defensive display throughout.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 10:35:05 PM
I think it’s evident that both have been really key in pushing us to compete for Champions League places in consecutive seasons - they’re both really important. So are the rest of the squad - it’s a tremendous result today, against a good side.

Not sure who you are leaving out. But as villamole says I’d give credit to all three. Team, manager and owners. Which one are you not happy with?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on May 10, 2025, 10:35:40 PM
Wasn’t the best spectacle at times but so impressive how we’ve found another way to win, again. Two games to go and we’re right in the race with European football of some description for next season already confirmed.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 10, 2025, 10:37:21 PM
I think you’re probably reading into stuff that isn’t there.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 10:38:57 PM
Good job Rogers looked into the box for Watkins and not the "easy" ball to Konsa.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2025, 10:44:22 PM
Mings reminds me of Pepe Reina when he was here a bit. He might make mistakes but he gives the rest of the defence the confidence not to make them.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on May 10, 2025, 10:58:33 PM
7 wins out of 8 and some people still try and find negativity. It's weird as fuck.

*Goes on the post-match thread buzzing after a massive win. Oh great, it's another Mings/Torres discussion.*

I'm edging closer to hoping we sell the pair of them this summer just so it ends.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: DesBremner on May 10, 2025, 11:00:21 PM
Thought our gk / defense and Onana haad good games - Marco had a good 20 minutes, Ollie looked much better after his goal.  Ramsay was also good up to his needless red.

Rogers looks a shadow of what he was but still got an assist and our attacking play doesnt seem quite right - but its been like it all season.  We missed Teilemans (or dougie) - someone a bit cuter with the ball.   

Kamara indifferent form continued - not sure if its the contract talk

Personally - I think despite his obvious ability - Marco contribution is offset by what we lose from rogers.  And Marco hasnt added enough in the last 9 games to make it worth while.


""Kamara indifferent form continued - not sure if its the contract talk"


REALLY ??
Did you watch the game ?

He covered nearly every inch of the pitch
He was clearly given an instruction to cover Cash and double up on their left sided attackers which is where they have done so well lately
He was MOM by a distance today
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on May 10, 2025, 11:00:27 PM
I was in the hospitality section and Mings was limping and stretching out for several minutes before he actually got subbed. Clearly struggling. But immense with it.
I heard somewhere that he plays through the pain. He remains a hero.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 11:02:12 PM
Thought our gk / defense and Onana haad good games - Marco had a good 20 minutes, Ollie looked much better after his goal.  Ramsay was also good up to his needless red.

Rogers looks a shadow of what he was but still got an assist and our attacking play doesnt seem quite right - but its been like it all season.  We missed Teilemans (or dougie) - someone a bit cuter with the ball.   

Kamara indifferent form continued - not sure if its the contract talk

Personally - I think despite his obvious ability - Marco contribution is offset by what we lose from rogers.  And Marco hasnt added enough in the last 9 games to make it worth while.


""Kamara indifferent form continued - not sure if its the contract talk"


REALLY ??
Did you watch the game ?

He covered nearly every inch of the pitch
He was clearly given an instruction to cover Cash and double up on their left sided attackers which is where they have done so well lately
He was MOM by a distance today
Can't agree with that thought Kamara again was below his usual best . Has been for a few weeks now .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: DesBremner on May 10, 2025, 11:05:58 PM
Thought our gk / defense and Onana haad good games - Marco had a good 20 minutes, Ollie looked much better after his goal.  Ramsay was also good up to his needless red.

Rogers looks a shadow of what he was but still got an assist and our attacking play doesnt seem quite right - but its been like it all season.  We missed Teilemans (or dougie) - someone a bit cuter with the ball.   

Kamara indifferent form continued - not sure if its the contract talk

Personally - I think despite his obvious ability - Marco contribution is offset by what we lose from rogers.  And Marco hasnt added enough in the last 9 games to make it worth while.


""Kamara indifferent form continued - not sure if its the contract talk"


REALLY ??
Did you watch the game ?

He covered nearly every inch of the pitch
He was clearly given an instruction to cover Cash and double up on their left sided attackers which is where they have done so well lately
He was MOM by a distance today
Can't agree with that thought Kamara again was below his usual best . Has been for a few weeks now .

Given a job to do and he do and did  it well
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on May 10, 2025, 11:13:14 PM
I don’t think we’ve limited Bournemouth as much as we did today in previous performances. Great tactical set up. We looked to have purposefully gone with a lot of ball carriers and it worked. They rotational fouled Ramsey who I thought was very unlucky to be sent off. I wonder if the ref forgot he’d already booked him That melee in the first half was because of a quite nasty foul on Ramsey. Martinez got booked for being Martinez. I think the ref forgot he was our captain at that point and was entitled to talk to the ref.

Cash was great today. Ollie looked over the moon about becoming our record premier league scorer and I was glad for him. Midfield was awesome. Strange one on Mings if he wasn’t injured.

I've no problem with Martinez taking a yellow in those circumstances. He's our captain today and that was a bad foul on JJ. Martinez was in the zone today I thought, made lots of good decisions.

Agreed. I think that ref thought he’d come flying from his box to the half line to get involved -which he did- but not as our captain, rather as our keeper. Ref thinks ‘it’s Martinez’ and books him because of that ‘crime.’ Then maybe later clocks (or doesn’t) ‘oh, he’s the captain!’ But it’s too late then. Would be indicative of his poor control and officiating. As others have pointed out, how Semanyo doesn’t get a minimum of a yellow when he’s very possibly the last man was baffling. There’s another where Asensio wins the ball cleanly in their half and it’s about to be 2 on 2 so the ref appears to think it’ll be more trouble if he’s wrong at that point so guesses and gives a foul rather than let the move play out and VAR could asses. This was a game with big implications depending on the outcome and we were subject to the whims of a very poor official. Not for the first time.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on May 10, 2025, 11:21:50 PM
Stop obfuscating

Pau doesn’t concede for 125 mins

I’m saying that’s unusual.

Are you saying that’s not unusual??

That’s a huge win, massive and some brilliant performances, yet you’re focusing on a negative, which wasn’t even anything to be negative about? That’s just weird.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 11:23:24 PM
Stop obfuscating

Pau doesn’t concede for 125 mins

I’m saying that’s unusual.

Are you saying that’s not unusual??

That’s a huge win, massive and some brilliant performances, yet you’re focusing on a negative, which wasn’t even anything to be negative about? That’s just weird.

I’m sure Unai is also nitpicking. That’s what winners do.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chap on May 10, 2025, 11:25:16 PM
Unai is well qualified to nitpick.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on May 10, 2025, 11:28:00 PM
That’s really magnificent from Cash and Martinez at the end, won us the points.

Big game for Onana too, he’s been really good since coming back from injury. Him and Maatsen have been very good signings as the seasons progressed. Great recruitments from our management.

So chuffed for our Ollie. Brilliant goal from the lad from Devon.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villa for life on May 10, 2025, 11:28:19 PM
Thats for sure. A great manager and seems a gentleman.

Really love the way he doesn’t spit .. can’t bear to watch Pep. So gross.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 10, 2025, 11:29:17 PM
Watkins in his post match interview said they'd be watching the game back tomorrow . Guess this is an emeryism type thing to get them all in and review the actual content of the game etc .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 10, 2025, 11:40:57 PM
Anyone else notice there seemed to be a block in the home seats in the background when Ollie scored, all celebrating the goal.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on May 10, 2025, 11:45:42 PM
I was in the hospitality section and Mings was limping and stretching out for several minutes before he actually got subbed. Clearly struggling. But immense with it.
I heard somewhere that he plays through the pain. He remains a hero.

Tyrone Mings has been and remains an absolute colossus for us in defence and we wouldn't be on the position we find ourselves in without his return

It's no slight on Pau Torres who has been equally important to the sides we've made, but Ty is just the fucking man you want when shit is going down.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 10, 2025, 11:50:44 PM
I assumed you meant on the side. Were they cheering or were they jumping up shouting for offside / moaning at the defence?

What I did notice is what was their leftback doing? He stays in line with the centre spot, then starts to run towards the corner flag when he though Rogers was about to win it even though Konsa was 10 yards in front. Then only runs up to play offside when Rogers has got the ball but was the one definitely playing Ollie on (although I think the other defender was as well.)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on May 10, 2025, 11:52:30 PM
I was in the hospitality section and Mings was limping and stretching out for several minutes before he actually got subbed. Clearly struggling. But immense with it.
I heard somewhere that he plays through the pain. He remains a hero.

Tyrone Mings has been and remains an absolute colossus for us in defence and we wouldn't be on the position we find ourselves in without his return

It's no slight on Pau Torres who has been equally important to the sides we've made, but Ty is just the fucking man you want when shit is going down.

Yes. As good a footballer as Pau is and as calming as his passing can help make us, he doesn’t have Mings qualities of physicality, winning aerial duels and the calming influence his authority and leadership bring. The defence always looks more settled generally when Mings is there. And I think he actually settles us supporters more than Pau does when we see that he’s playing, especially because the side can brain fart but it just looks to be a lot less when Mings is playing.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on May 10, 2025, 11:57:50 PM
7 wins out of 8 and some people still try and find negativity. It's weird as fuck.

*Goes on the post-match thread buzzing after a massive win. Oh great, it's another Mings/Torres discussion.*

I'm edging closer to hoping we sell the pair of them this summer just so it ends.

I sometimes long for a return to the bad old days where we only had one player for each position, if even.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on May 11, 2025, 12:04:52 AM
Anyone else notice there seemed to be a block in the home seats in the background when Ollie scored, all celebrating the goal.
Judging by Agbonlahors social media, there were a few Villa in the home end, including himself, in that block that you mention.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on May 11, 2025, 12:28:54 AM
I saw a stat earlier that said if we win our next two games we'll finish on more points than we did last season, but in a lower position. Strange old season.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on May 11, 2025, 12:30:30 AM
I saw a stat earlier that said if we win our next two games we'll finish on more points than we did last season, but in a lower position. Strange old season.

There’s no way of knowing if we’ll finish in a lower position if we win both games, is there?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on May 11, 2025, 12:32:49 AM
Wasn’t the best spectacle at times but so impressive how we’ve found another way to win, again. Two games to go and we’re right in the race with European football of some description for next season already confirmed.

Given the context of the table, that is a tremendous win.  It looked a tricky one on paper going there, but to come out with 3 points is a fantastic result. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on May 11, 2025, 12:33:26 AM
I saw a stat earlier that said if we win our next two games we'll finish on more points than we did last season, but in a lower position. Strange old season.

There’s no way of knowing if we’ll finish in a lower position if we win both games, is there?

Maybe it said potentially finish lower? I can't remember. What stood out to me more was the fact, league wise, it doesn't feel we've been as impressive as last season, and we didn't really get in the mix for top 4 in the same way we did last year, but yet and all we could finish with more points.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 11, 2025, 12:36:53 AM
I was in the hospitality section and Mings was limping and stretching out for several minutes before he actually got subbed. Clearly struggling. But immense with it.
I heard somewhere that he plays through the pain. He remains a hero.

Tyrone Mings has been and remains an absolute colossus for us in defence and we wouldn't be on the position we find ourselves in without his return

It's no slight on Pau Torres who has been equally important to the sides we've made, but Ty is just the fucking man you want when shit is going down.

We’re unbeaten in every PL game he’s started this season.

For me it’s about the partnership. Put Pau in and it’s not just him - something about the chemistry  makes Konsa look dodgy too. Probably misses Mings strength in the air, physical dominance and the fact that he is far and away our best box defender.

The debate is silly though, and a bit puzzling. We don’t have a Martinez-Olsen debate, which would be only slightly more ridiculous.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 11, 2025, 12:50:03 AM
Please, no more.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 11, 2025, 12:56:37 AM
Missed the second half, what was it like
Comfortable for 35 mins then Ramsey's bad decisions making
Any right thinking person will know that Jacob's obvious cultural deficit got him sent off. 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 11, 2025, 02:04:49 AM
Still can't believe it was Konsa's first yellow card in the league all season. Fair play. I assumed he had racked-up double figures. All that moaning and face-pulling at the ref, the opponents, teammates, Unai (last week)... yet he remains an angel.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on May 11, 2025, 07:16:49 AM
I saw a stat earlier that said if we win our next two games we'll finish on more points than we did last season, but in a lower position. Strange old season.

There’s no way of knowing if we’ll finish in a lower position if we win both games, is there?

Maybe it said potentially finish lower? I can't remember. What stood out to me more was the fact, league wise, it doesn't feel we've been as impressive as last season, and we didn't really get in the mix for top 4 in the same way we did last year, but yet and all we could finish with more points.

I know what you mean, I was telling lots of people up until about February that it didn't seem like we'd played well all season in the league.

I think it's the psychology of when the good run happens and our position in the table because of it. Last season we were in title winning form for the first half and mid table for the second. This meant we were always up there and managed to stay there at the end, which is a different kettle of fish to bobbing around mid table and having a late charge like we are this time.

I think qualifying for CL this time would be a bigger achievement than last season given we have had to deal with CL games as well this time around.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on May 11, 2025, 07:24:36 AM
I saw a stat earlier that said if we win our next two games we'll finish on more points than we did last season, but in a lower position. Strange old season.

There’s no way of knowing if we’ll finish in a lower position if we win both games, is there?

Maybe it said potentially finish lower? I can't remember. What stood out to me more was the fact, league wise, it doesn't feel we've been as impressive as last season, and we didn't really get in the mix for top 4 in the same way we did last year, but yet and all we could finish with more points.

I know what you mean, I was telling lots of people up until about February that it didn't seem like we'd played well all season in the league.

I think it's the psychology of when the good run happens and our position in the table because of it. Last season we were in title winning form for the first half and mid table for the second. This meant we were always up there and managed to stay there at the end, which is a different kettle of fish to bobbing around mid table and having a late charge like we are this time.

I think qualifying for CL this time would be a bigger achievement than last season given we have had to deal with CL games as well this time around.

I agree, if we can qualify it would be an incredible achievement. When you look at the hurdles we’ve faced. Having to sell Diaby, Dougie and Duran and I’m sure I read up until February we had the second worse injury list in the league. Mainly in our defence too.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eye digress on May 11, 2025, 07:24:36 AM
Plus the Jaudis and Chelski returned to form and Forest have been challenging. It's been much more competitive this year.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 11, 2025, 07:38:08 AM
I think thats right re Chelsea, Newcastle and Forest. But also the bottom three have been so much worse than everyone else, there have been almost guaranteed points for the better sides (apart from us with Ipswich). 
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 11, 2025, 07:46:00 AM
Appears the Bournemouth lad broke his jaw as a result of the elbow from Tyrone. It didn’t appear intentional but an unfortunate outcome nonetheless.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 11, 2025, 07:56:27 AM
If Mings had been sent off I don't think there would be any grounds for appeal - he raised his arm, and put himself in a risky position. If that was one of theirs on our forward we'd be asking for a red.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on May 11, 2025, 08:02:28 AM
Yes I think Ty's name would be mud with our fanbase the other way round.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on May 11, 2025, 09:06:51 AM
Plus the Jaudis and Chelski returned to form and Forest have been challenging. It's been much more competitive this year.

And there's been 4 or 5 other teams below us all very close on points. We were going from 4th to 9th in the space of an afternoon.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on May 11, 2025, 09:13:15 AM
Yes I think Ty's name would be mud with our fanbase the other way round.
I agree - I wouldn’t say it was violent but clumsy and if yo raise your elbow like that your risking a red
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on May 11, 2025, 09:42:02 AM
All players raise their arms when they’re shielding the ball, the Bournemouth bloke was a lot shorter so ran into it whereas a taller man would have made contact at shoulder level. A card would have been punishment for being six foot five.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 11, 2025, 09:53:53 AM
The lad played on too for 40 mins , we might be talking hairline fracture or minor fracture. The ref and lino and VAR none of them saw it as a foul.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 11, 2025, 09:57:47 AM
I think it's similar to the Duran one.

I don't think either player make a conscious decision to elbow / stamp on their opponent, but neither really did anything to stop it happening either. And ultimately nobody knows apart from the player.

I wouldn't have said that either incident was a red, but neither was / would it have been an egregious decision to see it as such.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Crown Hill on May 11, 2025, 09:58:51 AM
And it’s not being mentioned the Bournemouth player was charging into the back of him.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: baddowvillans on May 11, 2025, 10:04:32 AM
I think thats right re Chelsea, Newcastle and Forest. But also the bottom three have been so much worse than everyone else, there have been almost guaranteed points for the better sides (apart from us with Ipswich). 

If Chelsea qualify ahead of us it will largely be due to Liverpool turning up in flip flops last week.  Fine margins!
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on May 11, 2025, 10:06:06 AM
I think he's just getting his arm out to step across to shield the ball/draw the foul by getting a barge in the back. His arm was low, he didn't swing it. Unfortunate, but not deliberate or violent.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Paul.S on May 11, 2025, 10:07:08 AM
On paper, this was the most difficult game.
We've put the pressure on the rest as I’m sure they were banking on us losing so let’s see what happens today. I said 4 wins would do it and I’m still sure it will.  Qualifying again after the injuries and extra games we’ve had this season would be unbelievable.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on May 11, 2025, 10:38:13 AM
What a great few days it's been for our great club, along with yesterday's vital win, the youngsters won the Youth Cup and the women finished the season with 5 wins on the bounce.

Up The Villa
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: garyellis on May 11, 2025, 10:39:09 AM
And it’s not being mentioned the Bournemouth player was charging into the back of him.
100% and the ref gave a foul on Tyrone.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on May 11, 2025, 10:41:58 AM
Not a great game but a great win.

Sods law in that there were plenty of pretty cynical, attack stopping fouls from them but we are the ones who end up down to 10, which nearly cost us. Bit disappointed with Ramsey, he was carrying the ball very well but he's liable to go down at the faintest touch, so to react like that to an actual touch is very unwise, then the second was also avoidable. Thought most of the attacking player looked a little off it so really good to snatch one and hold on.

I think Cash has been very good for most of the recent matches and wonderful to see him get some recognition. also good to see Kamara getting back to form and Onana was also excellent, apart from his long passes.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 11, 2025, 10:50:34 AM
Ollie Watkins' full interview with Jonathan Pearce.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 11, 2025, 10:56:30 AM
Appears the Bournemouth lad broke his jaw as a result of the elbow from Tyrone. It didn’t appear intentional but an unfortunate outcome nonetheless.
Do we have an update on Tyrone's elbow? That was quite a brutel chinning he received from Scott.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on May 11, 2025, 11:00:32 AM
Mings is fine, Scott no longer has a head though.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 11, 2025, 11:04:49 AM
Yes I think Ty's name would be mud with our fanbase the other way round.

Don't Reading fans hate him for stamping on one of their players ?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 11, 2025, 11:07:44 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/ynNdBpVL/Screenshot-20250511-110247-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ynNdBpVL)
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on May 11, 2025, 11:09:58 AM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 11, 2025, 11:11:39 AM
Very disappointing to see, no need to go down the Jaudi route. If you must, save it for Old Trafford if/when we actually clinch a CL spot.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 11, 2025, 11:11:48 AM
Why did Attwell book Emi? Did he not realise that Emi was captain and had every right to come over and have a word with him?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on May 11, 2025, 11:12:56 AM
Its not just the fans who have to slum it at Dean Court
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 11, 2025, 11:15:42 AM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Declan Pierce (and his Block Rockin' Beats)?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 11, 2025, 11:19:15 AM
And it’s not being mentioned the Bournemouth player was charging into the back of him.
100% and the ref gave a foul on Tyrone.

That’s the crux of it. If he doesn’t charge into him like he did then there’s no foul and his jaw stays intact. It was his own fault.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on May 11, 2025, 11:22:34 AM
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I think they've taken a Bournemouth flag there as a trophy and are scrawling AVFC on it.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on May 11, 2025, 11:23:34 AM
SJM has a knee issue according to that photo.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on May 11, 2025, 11:25:35 AM
And it’s not being mentioned the Bournemouth player was charging into the back of him.
100% and the ref gave a foul on Tyrone.

That’s the crux of it. If he doesn’t charge into him like he did then there’s no foul and his jaw stays intact. It was his own fault.

It was like watching an episode of The Walking Dead, the way Scott tried to eat Tyrone's elbow.  The filthy bugger.  He then tried to take a nibble on Kamara's elbow too.  This sort of behaviour needs stamping out by the FA before it becomes a fashion.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 11, 2025, 11:27:35 AM
Yes I think Ty's name would be mud with our fanbase the other way round.

Don't Reading fans hate him for stamping on one of their players ?

Nelson Oliveira

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DycTlGXUcAAYBKa?format=jpg)

Stuck in spoiler tags as it's a bit graphic.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 11, 2025, 11:28:32 AM
I think they've taken a Bournemouth flag there as a trophy and are scrawling AVFC on it.

They're writing 'Get Well Soon' messages to Alex Scott. On the downside, I fear it's only a matter of time before someone cites the photo as evidence of Pau's inability to cover properly at the back.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 11, 2025, 11:29:24 AM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Garcia isn't it?
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Richard on May 11, 2025, 11:35:53 AM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Garcia isn't it?

Definitely.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 11, 2025, 11:40:57 AM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Declan Pierce (and his Block Rockin' Beats)?

Haha, it's a pity only about three people will get that reference. Like my random song lyrics  :'(
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on May 11, 2025, 11:58:34 AM
I think they've taken a Bournemouth flag there as a trophy and are scrawling AVFC on it.

They're writing 'Get Well Soon' messages to Alex Scott. On the downside, I fear it's only a matter of time before someone cites the photo as evidence of Pau's inability to cover properly at the back.
I think Pau’s tight pants are surely impacting on his defensive abilities. I bet by Ty wears a looser boxer. Discuss.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on May 12, 2025, 08:01:39 AM
For me I was surprised when they did review the Mings elbow that they did not ask the ref to go and look at the incident

Thought our full backs and wide midfield players did well especially defensively

Ramsey was unlucky to get a 2nd yellow card for a non challenge

Good victory and our fans were fantastic
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: nigel on May 12, 2025, 08:32:29 AM
For me I was surprised when they did review the Mings elbow that they did not ask the ref to go and look at the incident

Thought our full backs and wide midfield players did well especially defensively

Ramsey was unlucky to get a 2nd yellow card for a non challenge

Good victory and our fans were fantastic

Probably because they saw nothing in it, the same as the ref.
I don’t recall any of their players remonstrating
The only person that seemed to think any wrong doing was their manager.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on May 12, 2025, 09:00:03 AM
For me I was surprised when they did review the Mings elbow that they did not ask the ref to go and look at the incident

Thought our full backs and wide midfield players did well especially defensively

Ramsey was unlucky to get a 2nd yellow card for a non challenge

Good victory and our fans were fantastic

I think they didn't see any movement to suggest the elbow was deliberate unlike the Bournemouth manager. Might have been different if Mings didn't have the control of the ball first ala Jackson yesterday. But it was a close thing.

. As for Ramsey, he appeared to pull back / clash legs with the player with no attempt to get the ball. He was already on a yellow AND the player wasn't going anywhere and was always risking it with that ref.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on May 12, 2025, 09:12:29 AM
The Mings elbow is a non event. He used his arm to protect possession as every player in every match does. He doesn’t move the arm towards the forward, the forward ran in to it. Also we ought to stop reffing based on out comes. Often a player can break a leg with no contact and the worst tackles leave the recipient unscathed. The broken jaw is not relevant.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on May 12, 2025, 09:37:20 AM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Declan Pierce (and his Block Rockin' Beats)?

Haha, it's a pity only about three people will get that reference. Like my random song lyrics  :'(

I didn't get the reference or know him, so googled and thought it did look like him, I didn't know why he was in the dressing room. So joke missed.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Smithy on May 12, 2025, 09:45:42 AM
I saw a stat earlier that said if we win our next two games we'll finish on more points than we did last season, but in a lower position. Strange old season.

There’s no way of knowing if we’ll finish in a lower position if we win both games, is there?

Maybe it said potentially finish lower? I can't remember. What stood out to me more was the fact, league wise, it doesn't feel we've been as impressive as last season, and we didn't really get in the mix for top 4 in the same way we did last year, but yet and all we could finish with more points.

I know what you mean, I was telling lots of people up until about February that it didn't seem like we'd played well all season in the league.

I think it's the psychology of when the good run happens and our position in the table because of it. Last season we were in title winning form for the first half and mid table for the second. This meant we were always up there and managed to stay there at the end, which is a different kettle of fish to bobbing around mid table and having a late charge like we are this time.

I think qualifying for CL this time would be a bigger achievement than last season given we have had to deal with CL games as well this time around.

Last season's league was very different.  The top 3 were miles away off in the distance, and from early-March the 4th place position was really just a two-horse race between us and Spurs.  Both of us hit a wall in the last month, but we were lucky Spurs hit their wall a bit harder, losing three of the last five.  You can tell it was a 2-horse race, because Chelsea won their last five games and were STILL five points behind us in 6th at the end.

This year, the competition has been MUCH closer for the European places.  We're pretty close to the level we were at last season (and will get a higher points total if we win our last 2), but the teams around us have improved a lot.  If we win our last 2 and still miss out, I'll be gutted, but it will still be an improvement, and 69 points is a pretty good total.

The big difference has been the way we've finished the season (so far).  We were blowing out of our arses this time last year, whereas this year we seem to have peaked at the right time, despite two big cup runs as well as the league.  I hope that's something we can take forward into next year and make sure we can compete on all fronts.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on May 12, 2025, 06:27:51 PM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Declan Pierce (and his Block Rockin' Beats)?

Haha, it's a pity only about three people will get that reference. Like my random song lyrics  :'(

I didn't get the reference or know him, so googled and thought it did look like him, I didn't know why he was in the dressing room. So joke missed.

He's a big Villa fan and mentions it when  he can in his radio slot.
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on May 12, 2025, 08:18:07 PM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Declan Pierce (and his Block Rockin' Beats)?

Haha, it's a pity only about three people will get that reference. Like my random song lyrics  :'(

I didn't get the reference or know him, so googled and thought it did look like him, I didn't know why he was in the dressing room. So joke missed.

He's a big Villa fan and mentions it when  he can in his radio slot.

Great guy, been through some health issues and back rocking. Loves the Villa 👍
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on May 12, 2025, 08:24:26 PM
Who is that at the back next to Maatsen?

Declan Pierce (and his Block Rockin' Beats)?
Garcia
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on May 12, 2025, 08:29:13 PM
We've got a few DJ celeb fans .
Title: Re: Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 12, 2025, 09:12:18 PM
We've got a few DJ celeb fans .

That's why the programme's called 'Villa News and Records'.
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