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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on May 03, 2025, 11:15:36 AM
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Win please.
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That 11 is like last week never happened.
Rogers on the right again...nah.
Two weeks back Mings was limiting Isak to only around five touches close to the box. Three straight games on the bench since. Bizarre.
Disasi not in the 20 so unless he's picked up a knock looks like his time here is over.
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I don’t understand Mings’ absence
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I don’t understand Mings’ absence
Pau was awful for the goal Jimenez scored down there in October.
Baffling.
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Mings must have pissed someone off
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Mings must have pissed someone off
Or in Unai's tea.
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You are not helping with these team selections.
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I wonder if Mings is one of the players who joined in with Watkins furious moment and has pissed Unai off. We are so much better with him in the side.
Asensio, get more involved please. Torres, play better.
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That team seriously let the club down last week.
I hope this a chance for redemption rather than Unai being blind to making changes.
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Feels like some stubborness is creeping in .
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With the strongest squad we have ever had, he picks the team that failed so dismally last week.
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Absolutely bizarre from Uni. Very disappointed by that selection in light of last week....
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Mings instead of Pau, Bailey instead of Asensio, Rogers in a proper position and we win 10-0. And that's a fact as no one can ever prove we wouldn't have.
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I don’t understand Mings’ absence
Pau was awful for the goal Jimenez scored down there in October.
Baffling.
He was and awful for the goal last week. I’m not so confident of a win now.
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Sigh
I hope he proves us massively wrong. If we don't win this game we can definitely forget CL.
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Well, the postive.
Torres daren’t fuck up again today
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Kamara:
Pau to to left of me
Rogers to the right
Here I am stuck in the middle Youri
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Mings is comfortably the best defender at the club, should have enough in the rest of the team to beat Fulham without needing Pau to play some killer passes.
And get Rogers back in the middle.
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I wonder if Mings is one of the players who joined in with Watkins furious moment and has pissed Unai off. We are so much better with him in the side.
I don't think it really needs to be a conspiracy. The team that Emery sees as the best version of us has Torres in it.
It's not a position in the team that's up for grabs, and I'm pretty sure that while Emery is our manager he'll see Torres as our first-choice left sided centre back. And as a result he'll play more often than not.
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Nas should rage sack him now rather than wait until full time.
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Not a huge fan of that line up - mainly the attacking side. I get he prefers Pau to Mings - I would have gone with Mings but I understand thats his preference.
Attacking side lacks pace and width - and Rogers on the right isnt massively effective. Marco has been noticeably poor since the southampton pen misses.
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Unai still has a lot of credit in the bank. Fulham are decent but won't have the energy levels or desire that Palace had last week. Maybe this actually is a chance for that team to lift itself off the floor and put in a great performance. It will be interesting to see if some of them look as lethargic as they did last week. Could be a masterstroke could be lesson in stubbornness. We'll find out over the next couple of hours.
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That's really disappointing. Torres and Asensio should not be starting, and I'd have been happy to see Rogers on the bench too. I must have imagined last Saturday.
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I've felt for a while now that he doesn't rate Mings and he will go this summer.
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weird selection , happy to see Maatesen start but Mings is bizzare and please no more rogers on the right !!! why the f , malen even signed ..
anyway come on Villa .
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Pleased Maatsen is starting and as he was one of the very few players, who came out with any credit last Saturday, there might have been a case for Bailey starting.
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I've felt for a while now that he doesn't rate Mings and he will go this summer.
thin its 1 defeat in 18 with mings playing , not sure thats rigth but hes been excellent.
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Hope it isn't the slow ponderous sideways sideways backwards crap again .
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Cmon lads, 4 massive games starting here. Last week was last week, Palace wanted it more cos it was their cup final. The next 4 are our cup finals. 2-0 with Watkins breaking Gabbys record CMON VILLA
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We'll be running round the Bullring with the winning the first of 4 games cup!
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Looks like Rio Ferdinand is on co-commentary on TNT. After him doing Barcelona on Wednesday and Bilbao on Thursday I was kind of hoping and expecting that we wouldn't have to endure the fucker today.
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Managers can be a bit odd. It's like Emery is doubling down on who he rates and doesn't, regardless of recent performances.
Good opportunity for Maatsen all the same.
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Managers can be a bit odd. It's like Emery is doubling down on who he rates and doesn't, regardless of recent performances.
Good opportunity for Maatsen all the same.
Most managers are stubborn at times and it often costs them their jobs .
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Hope it isn't the slow ponderous sideways sideways backwards crap again .
haa my dad just said that to me
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I've felt for a while now that he doesn't rate Mings and he will go this summer.
Pockets Isak and doesn't play since. Very odd
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I’d have done a couple of things differently. Its not as bizarre as some of you strange lot are saying though.
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Asensio and Torres are mistakes again for me.
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This is a poor decision by Emery. Feel like he just wants to show how smart he is and it might work at VP, but it still is the wrong decision. Pau got bullied by Jimenez in the last match with these.
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This is it, we either stay in the race or we are out, C'mon you Villa boys....
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Making a fortune from the mascots, they’ve all got two each. We’re gonna miss Heck.
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Rogers on left.
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Just seen the team selection. I really hope the manager proves me wrong
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Interesting that they kicked off packing their left. Were they hoping for an early chance to put Cash under pressure?
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Good, it's Lucy Ward not Ferdinand on co-comms.
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Ive got efan ekoku at least
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thast poor from cash
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yellow him .
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Fulham have given us space early on but we've been rushing it. Marco had more time to pick out a better pass there
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No idea how that isn't a yellow for Robinson.
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thast poor from cash
I pretty much expected this to be the first post of the game. Either that or ‘fucking first shot we concede again’.
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cash why did you come back
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thast poor from cash
Count the chop backs, that’s all he does.
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thast poor from cash
I pretty much expected this to be the first post of the game. Either that or ‘fucking first shot we concede again’.
welcome
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Bit of a let off
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SCOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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GET IN!!
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You beauty!!!!!!!
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cracking header that
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Bullet header
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At least we're not the only side that concedes from the first effort on target.
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Bit of a let off
Nah, no chance it would've stood, clear foul on Konsa
And now gone down the other end and scored a belter of a corner.
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Youri Beauty
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rogers better on the left already
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Get in! A goal direct from a corner, nice one.
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waste of afree kick
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Heh heh Lucy Cane's comment about Austin McPhee disappearing into a hedge 😁
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Can we have the real Boubocar Kamara back, please?
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He does seem a bit laboured
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Great start. Another 6 or 7 to fettle that goal difference a bit would be nice.
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Tielemans...I never thought I'd see a better through ball player than Cowans at VP
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Sloppy errors in possession early on, looking a threat going forward though.
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Tielemans...I never thought I'd see a better through ball player than Cowans at VP
He looks well up for it today
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tielmans been excellent so far.
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Played Matty
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Well marshalled Matty, more of that please
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Is someone going to break the bad news to our Lucy that she's colour-blind.
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Kamara and Rogers both loose at the moment. So much of Fulham's forward play is stemming from this
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Rogers is not at the races at all.
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Kamara's passing has gone to pot recently.
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That challenge on Watkins was a penalty.
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That challenge on Watkins was a penalty.
They never get given but it's a clear foul, like the 2 handed shove when a player has jumped.
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We feel a bit sleepy today. Hopefully it’ll be a win though… a few more goals in the 2nd half would be awesome though. And we need Liverpool and Palace to do the goods over the weekend too.
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Ollie bollocking Morgan for the last two passes
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on the break and ends up back to martinez - whip the ball in !!
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We feel a bit sleepy today. Hopefully it’ll be a win though… a few more goals in the 2nd half would be awesome though. And we need Liverpool and Palace to do the goods over the weekend too.
Kamara in particular looks like he's struggling, I think I'd bring on Onana at half time.
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Iwobi getting the better of cash too often
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rogers lost the ball alot but maatsen good
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Think Kamara’s doing well - I do hope he signs that contract
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Has Cash made one forward pass yet. ????
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We feel a bit sleepy today. Hopefully it’ll be a win though… a few more goals in the 2nd half would be awesome though. And we need Liverpool and Palace to do the goods over the weekend too.
Kamara in particular looks like he's struggling, I think I'd bring on Onana at half time.
I was thinking that. Fulham are physically bullying us here and there and his size might work well against that
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Rogers and Kamara…
I’d swap with JJ and Onana. We look tired at the moment, but it’s not really a surprise given the month we’ve had.
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We feel a bit sleepy today. Hopefully it’ll be a win though… a few more goals in the 2nd half would be awesome though. And we need Liverpool and Palace to do the goods over the weekend too.
It's a display that's got 'late Fulham equaliser' slapped all over it's face.
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Close from Youri…
Turns out it was a save too.
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Yay, we didn't concede from the first shot on target!!
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Is it asking too much of VAR to ask them to check for corners?
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officials are awful
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When is Tete going to get the booking he's been dodging all half?
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Good start then we're just played in conservative and energy saving mode. Fulham been woeful so I'd like us to step this up again in tempo second half and win this by three goals as we're not far off Forest in GD now.
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first shot on target not in :)
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Decent so far. Youri and Maatsen both excellent.
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Rogers and Kamara…
I’d swap with JJ and Onana. We look tired at the moment, but it’s not really a surprise given the month we’ve had.
mad that Youri never does ( other than palace)
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Maatsen is rapidly becoming my favourite player
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Thought that was quite decent. Rogers not completely at it again, other than a couple of good moments, Asensio offering more. Watkins not getting a kick, but his hold up has been good. McGinn, Pau, Maatsen and Tielemans our best players.
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Each defender has given the ball away when initially under no pressure. Very sloppy and should have cost us. Think we probably deserved a second goal for some of our approach play. Once again a ref that won't punish constant fouls by Fulham.
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Tielemans has been outstanding. I hope this was our controlled half and we kill them off in the second.
Rogers looks tired and Asensio not really involved.
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Comfortable. Atmosphere flat. Hardly any Fulham fans.
McGinn and You're bossing it
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Watkins has looked way off again. We need a Newcastle performance from him second half. Really want him to get that record goal in front of the Holte End.
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1st Half not overly impressive but coming from that semi final, much better, we need to turn this on 2nd half, show intent and show we want the CL, lets hope we turn this on second 45. More goals please Villa
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Kamera's a very good defender it's when he tries to be constructive he gets himself in trouble.Very nervous about the second half.
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There's some decent movement at times - especially from Asensio off the ball - but we're just lacking a bit of oomph. Feels like we've got another gear if we need it.
Tielemans and McGinn running the show so far.
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Need to get Maatsen more into the match more, most of the attacks are coming from our right side, looking good going forward, but final pass has been poor.
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Fulham seem like they are "on the beach". A bit frustrating that we didn't put the game beyond them in the first 45. Some very strong performances from Maatsen, McGinn and Tielemans. Need a bit more from the three further up the pitch.
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Watkins needs to wake up a bit. A few decent balls through or across and he’s just off it. Tielemens and McGinn bossing it. More needed from Assensio and Rogers this half.
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Why did their no.2 give the ref what appeared to be a low five after having a free kick awarded against him? He’d been lucky to not been booked just before for the challenge on McGinn.
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JJ for rogers for me.
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Why did their no.2 give the ref what appeared to be a low five after having a free kick awarded against him? He’d been lucky to not been booked just before for the challenge on McGinn.
He fouled McGinn, again, then gobbled off then offered his hand. Strange.
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No changes.
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Has Cash made one forward pass yet. ????
Stands on the ball, chops back inside x 20
Defending well though
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Oh Ollie 😖
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How does Ollie miss so many chances.
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bad miss ollie
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Come on Ollie
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hope that dont come back to bite her in the ass
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If he stumbled and fell into the ball he would have scored.
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Jesus. That's an absolute shocker from Watkins.
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I hope we don’t regret these. Need a second.
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hope that dont come back to bite her in the ass
He/she/they?
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Here we go, come on Villa, Fulham are dangerous,
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rubbish effort rogers get JJ on
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Ah ffs Ollie, that's criminal
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Phew
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There's the warning.
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Keystone cops defending there
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Confirmed no goal.
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Need that second. Fulham were never going to be as poor second half.
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if you dont put the chances in this can happen .. so wake up villa
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Well done ref
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hope that dont come back to bite her in the ass
He/she/they?
havent looked yet
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There's a familiar pattern developing here.
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We’re kind of ending the season a bit like last. Shaky, edgy, sloppy but just about getting it done. Yet a few weeks back we were playing confident flowing football.
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And there's Tete's yellow card. SJM has been terrorising him this half
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A warning sign. Fulham look much more up for it in this half.
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Fucking wake up Villa
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We need to improve a bit now!
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Time for a couple of subs, we are sleep walking out there.
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Very confusing Villa, we seem to lack energy, enthusiasm, the will to go and attack sides and destroy them, if it was anybody else other than Uni I would say the lads are not behind there manager.
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Wake up Konsa
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Konsa throwing his arms about wanting a foul
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konsa !!!
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Fucking sloppy Konsa
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Emery absolutely losing his mind at our wastefulness, and then sloppiness in transition almost costing a goal.
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Even Emery was screaming at Konsa there
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I wouldn't want to point at who's going to win this, Fulham could easily come back into this.
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Lucky free kick here tbh
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Emery letting Konsa have it
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WTF
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The ref has been kind to us there.
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Two atrocious free kicks by us in a row from dangerous positions.
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We are pretty ineffective at free kicks when we want to be
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Fulham reorganizing
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bet unal will take off SJM instead of rogers for JJ
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JJ and Onana coming on
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onana and JJ
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You would never know from watching this it's a must win game, Tielemans and Mcginn doing well but some shocking sloppiness from a few here
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Glad Sessegnon has gone off.
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Shirly in the book
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bet unal will take off SJM instead of rogers for JJ
Appears to be. I agree with both coming on but only one coming off. Thought SJM had looked one of our brighter lights today
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You would never know from watching this it's a must win game, Tielemans and Mcginn doing well but some shocking sloppiness from a few here
Exactly, I don't get it, you can easily understand how Palace did what they did last week.
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Asensio has been ineffective but not sure why McGinn has been replaced?
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thought SJM was good
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Why is McGinn coming off?
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Ollie
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Shirly in the book
I never never never thought he'd get away with that
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Fuck Ollie. You have to score those
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Better spell
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God Ollie. 1 on 1s are not his strongpoint
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straight at the goalie again
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Watkins... FFS.
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Taking off McGinn again - utter insanity
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Ollie if you get sold in the summer (maybe what you want?) only yourself to blame.
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Watkins with his regulation 1 on 1 miss .
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Only our second chance on target all match as they took Tielemans off him as the keeper "didn't save it" according to the ref.
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these chances are going to come back and hurt us .
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Gotta feel this isn't finishing 1-0
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Gotta feel this isn't finishing 1-0
Same here. And yet again, our wastefulness will cost us if there’s an equaliser
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Gotta feel this isn't finishing 1-0
Would settle for that, but I'd like a 2nd please.
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They're going to equalise, aren't they? It is written.
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Get Malen on. FFS we need goals.
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Complete re-programming of Ollie's thought process needed, Ollie the huge big rectangular area framed in white......Its called a goal, your purpose in life, hit that target area, avoiding the human standing between them.
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Get Malen on. FFS we need goals.
Yeah agree
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Here's Adama
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Here's Adama
The script… please not the script!
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That chance for Wilson I think it was ... How many times this season does someone beat our right fullback, head to the byline and find an unmarked player in our box despite us having half a team back there defending?
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Another wasted free kick coming up.
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always said If watkins has no time to think he is good , when he needs to think , he isnt too good.
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Get Malen on. FFS we need goals.
Wonder if he regrets joining us? Left out of the CL squad and only gets a few minutes towards the end of a game. Not sure that's what he had in mind when he signed.
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That chance for Wilson I think it was ... How many times this season does someone beat our right fullback, head to the byline and find an unmarked player in our box despite us having half a team back there defending?
My great grandmother would beat our right fullback and she's been dead for 20 years.
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I cannot recall a shitter series of free kicks from us in a long while.
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Ollie off for Malen
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Bloody us and bloody free kicks. And our bloody inability to do anything with them
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Another wasted free kick coming up.
WTF was that
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Get Malen on. FFS we need goals.
Wonder if he regrets joining us? Left out of the CL squad and only gets a few minutes towards the end of a game. Not sure that's what he had in mind when he signed.
Rashford's out now too, and Rogers needs a rest, and yet he still can't get a game.
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And Digne on
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wtf villa
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Watkins has been poor
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What…Digne?
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What…Digne?
I'm guessing with Adama on, he wasnted a slightly more defensive FB. Although slower.
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jsut thought rogers still on
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Has Malen moved right and Rogers up front?
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This is sending out the wrong messages for the 2 big games tomorrow.
Need to be much more assertive.
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Ollie had two great chances to make the record books for Aston Villa. Fluffed his lines twice. We should be out of sight. Again.
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Little ginger lad coming on for them.
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thats a yellow ?
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Hells bells!
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cash earns his wages there
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Well done Cash
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Well done Cash
But do we have any subs left?
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Cash has been excellent all game.
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Well done Cash
But do we have any subs left?
One more
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close again
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Malen causing chaos.
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Adama Traore looks like Mr Strong. He’s shaped like a cube that plays football.
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Would rather have Watkins upfront than Youri
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onana been ok , digne abit of a worry
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I don’t like the last 10 mins when we’re only 1-0 up
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10 men
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Ross on for Youri
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Maybe youri off to give him a standing ovation but I'd do that if it were 5-0, not 1-0. How Kamara has stayed on I just don't understand
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Donny Tonev
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It’s gonna be worse when they equalise and they’re down to 10 men.
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Lots of stoppages happening now. 10mins extra?
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Traore still all athletics, no football, I see...
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Kamara been shocking
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Maybe youri off to give him a standing ovation but I'd do that if it were 5-0, not 1-0. How Kamara has stayed on I just don't understand
Worrying he hasn't signed a new contract yet.
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why are my palms sweating when it should never be like this afther the missed chances.
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This hasn’t been a pretty match at all.
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Kamara looks gassed, Onana thankfully looks lively. Our finishing has been abysmal today, just need to hold on.
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barkley ffs
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Barkley has been poor
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Barkley has been poor
You can bank on it.
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Another, 'what a performance from Villa'.
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8 mins added
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8 minutes...can't we just finish this off?
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8 mins added
Close to my prediction unfortunately.
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8 minutes!!
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tippy tappy at the back whne they have 10 men . why?
direct villa , come on
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8 minutes..no goals or incidents of note, a joke
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8 mins! why, why would you want to do that?
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Being outplayed by ten men here
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In the immortal words of The Weeknd: I Feel It Coming.
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8 mins
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Been a poor match this
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Looking a wee bit nervous here
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digne been shit
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8 minutes..no goals or incidents of note, a joke
Lots of treatments to players and 10 subs. We aren't Europe now, FPL refs add more on.
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Just feels a Bournemouth end of a game sting about to arrive
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Looks like we’ve got the 10 men
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Just feels a Bournemouth end of a game sting about to arrive
That’s the story of this season though and what 89-90-90+ minutes goals have done to us.
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Good job were so good at keeping the opposition out in added time :-(
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Looks like we’ve got the 10 men
Well we have got <insert name of current scapegoat> playing for us so.....
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Madness, but it personifies the whole season, clinging on to a 1 goal lead against 10 men they go and score and it would cost many many millions, just like that.
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Hit the bar!
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Fuck, I can't take this.
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Who hit the bar?
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Close, should have finished it, harsh I know but we just don't finish
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Who hit the bar?
Malen
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Who hit the bar?
Malen
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Who hit the bar?
Malen.
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Thanks.
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Christ alive.......
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Close, should have finished it, harsh I know but we just don't finish
That was still a better attempt than Watkins… at least he beat the keeper
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Close, should have finished it, harsh I know but we just don't finish
That was still a better attempt than Watkins… at least he beat the keeper
Yes.
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Just following on here and the Beeb site has been very uncomfortable. We're showing good game management according to the latter.
And another miss
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Easy to beat the keeper when it's not on target.
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Easy to beat the keeper when it's not on target.
1cm lower and that was probably in. Slim margins, but that was the underside of the bar
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Please bring this game to an end.
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Relax
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Get in!
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Phew.
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Fairly comfortable last 10, don’t see where the stress comes from.
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Boy that was hard work 😮💨
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Done, not much to say really, limped across the line but its 3 points.
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Much harder than it should have been
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March Silva don't ever shut up, do he?
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Much harder than it should have been
That's what she said.
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Three points. That's now all that matters.
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Two or three easy chances missed but we got there.