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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 18, 2025, 04:15:23 PM
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Maatsen starting interesting! Strong bench
No saliba foe arsenal thats a big blow for them
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Arsenal: Raya, Partey, Timber, Gabriel, Lewis-Skelly, Merino, Rice, Odegaard, Trossard, Martinelli, Havertz.
Subs: Neto, Tierney, Zinchenko, Kiwior, Kacurri, Jorginho, Butler-Oyedeji, Kabia, Sterling.
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Our bench looks far stronger than theirs incredibly
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I thought Unai was keeping Duran for the big games. Obviously not.
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Watkins deserves his start. Bouba and Onana key for me tonight. Don't like Trousard starting, think he's underrated.
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I thought Unai was keeping Duran for the big games. Obviously not.
Watkins played well enough and scored last time out. I’m pretty sure that Duran will start in Monaco. And Ollie has usually done well against Arsenal.
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Perhaps Jhon and Don(yell) will be a frightening sub combo at 60 minutes?
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This could be a case for Lewis and Skelly.
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Watkins deserves his start. Bouba and Onana key for me tonight. Don't like Trousard starting, think he's underrated.
Agree. Crucial that both Bouba and Onana do not pick up early cards.
I really fancy another win here.
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If we are clinical when our chances come, we can win this. If we don't, like the opening game, we'll have problems.
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Watkins deserves his start. Bouba and Onana key for me tonight. Don't like Trousard starting, think he's underrated.
I wish whatever malady he's suffering with would start to manifest physically.
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We’ve started the year well without being convincing. A win today, however it comes will be massive for our confidence. Even just a good result taking a point. Arsenal are missing some big players so we certainly have a good chance here. Need to really attack that CBs because not having Saliba is a big blow for them.
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It is with a heavy heart that I have to admit to gross dereliction duty.
Despite having bought my two grandsons full Villa kit and pointed out our glorious history (though it was tough getting them to relate to the 19th Century), they’re going to see us play Arsenal with their dad. With full home kit on.
I truly wish we hammer Arsenal into a sticky paste. If that transpires, then I may succumb to a gloating call later on.
Sigh.
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Stop Oddegaard and you stop most of their creativity , give him time and space he'll pick us off .
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I thought Unai was keeping Duran for the big games. Obviously not.
Watkins played well enough and scored last time out. I’m pretty sure that Duran will start in Monaco. And Ollie has usually done well against Arsenal.
Let's hope he can break his duck against a top half team today. A repeat performance of last season's game would be most welcome.
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I was hoping for that Maatsen change so happy we will see that Maatsen/Ramsey combo in a big game. Arsenal look vulnerable.
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I thought Unai was keeping Duran for the big games. Obviously not.
Watkins played well enough and scored last time out. I’m pretty sure that Duran will start in Monaco. And Ollie has usually done well against Arsenal.
Let's hope he can break his duck against a top half team today. A repeat performance of last season's game would be most welcome.
He did score at Fulham when they were 8th. We jumped over them that day and they dropped to 9th.
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I hope Austin has analysed the living bejeezus out of their set pieces and that we can nullify then
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A day for away teams in the Premier League ...
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I thought Unai was keeping Duran for the big games. Obviously not.
It’s West Ham owners stopping us from playing him as they are about to up their offer to a massive £31.5M.
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Don’t lose please Villa.
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I thought Unai was keeping Duran for the big games. Obviously not.
It’s West Ham owners stopping us from playing him as they are about to up their offer to a massive £31.5M.
#headturnedbytheirons
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I hope Unai makes some subs earlier than he usually does, We've got some serious firepower on that bench.
Haven't heard of half the Arsenal subs if I'm honest.
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Unai sounds like he's got the lurgy . Lot of it going around .
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Unai is brilliant at speaking many words and giving away absolutely nothing.
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Hopefully we'll see Malen sometime.
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I was hoping for that Maatsen change so happy we will see that Maatsen/Ramsey combo in a big game. Arsenal look vulnerable.
Party at RB , he should attack him relentlessly
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Evening all! UTFV!
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come on Villa
Liverpool winning is good for us
my sisters side are all arsenal even thou they was Manure when Cantona played for them , typical french glory hunters , and have so many arrogant Arse friends so please come on Villa , we 'can' do this.
oh the third kit ...
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Come on Villa!
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I think we’ll find this tough due to our relative lack of pace
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I was hoping for that Maatsen change so happy we will see that Maatsen/Ramsey combo in a big game. Arsenal look vulnerable.
Party at RB , he should attack him relentlessly
Someone should break his leg. I'd take a red card.
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TRossard gone grey knowing he is playing villa
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Good save from Emi
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Letting them take the piss here.
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We cant keep old the ball
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They're getting in behind us in wide positions a bit too easily. Need to tighten things up.
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Maybe our midfielders will start playing soon ?
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After 7 minutes, I’m not feeling too confident.
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We're last-ditching like a bunch of bitches.
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Have to get the defensive line right.
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Gosh emi very lucky there
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Are we going to start fucking playing anytime soon ?
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The start of this was always going to be tough. We need to stay in this and start getting on the ball.
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Have we actually completed a pass yet?
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It’s difficult from their corners but we don’t appear to be competing much, groups of Arsenal players are getting the run on us at the back post
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Got to stop Odegaard from running the show.
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such a knob tarmac head is
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This looks like being a long evening the way it's started.
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Starting to get a bit more of the ball now
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Why are they booing Emi?
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All the booing at Emi really sums arse up.
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Good effort
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Ramsey should have shot and now Maatsen has. Keeping going
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Much better
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Brilliant by maatsen. So unlucky
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Why are they booing Emi?
Used to play for them
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Why are the arsehole fans booing Martinez? Did he demand to leave? Has he denigrated the club since?...
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good play for villa could have parred that back to us so unlucky
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Good hit.
Tielemans you have to do better.
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Why are they booing Emi?
Used to play for them
I know, but what’s he done to them?
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Why are they booing Emi?
Used to play for them
I know, but what’s he done to them?
Fuck nothing, but these are Tarquins we’re talking about
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tielmans wake up
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We’ve quietened the crowd down a bit too
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Kamara doing well there to take the heat out of the game a bit
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Why are they booing Emi?
Used to play for them
I know, but what’s he done to them?
Time-wasting in our games against them since we left when we woz winning.
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Gary Neville stop fucking digging at Emi
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Save emi
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Great save emi
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Should Ollie have done better there ?
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Watkins should have shot instead of trying to go round Gabriel, decent move though.
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Can’t let Trossard cut in like that.
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Should Ollie have done better there ?
He’s got a good left foot so maybe he could have taken it first time. But it wasn’t a bad decision and good challenge
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Should Ollie have done better there ?
Yet again..
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hit it quick
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Silly booking for maatsen
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How easily do these cheats fall over? A little touch and Martinelli goes down. Wanker
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
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Ffs 1st foul and obviously a yellow
Shit ref
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Stupid yellow, and IM has been giving them too much space on their right all game
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Soft yellow
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Soft yellow again.
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Should Ollie have done better there ?
Yet again..
FFS = strikers dont score from every opportunity they get
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
We are classier than Arsenal
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
We are classier than Arsenal
We booed Jack to death. They are doing what any fans do to the majority of ex players.
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I can’t remember whether Trossard starred in The Munsters or The Adam’s family ?
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Martinez has grilled them a log over the years.
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The Rogers foul was more a yellow than the IM one
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Ollie causing them trouble. Even in their attacks they are detailing two onto him
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nearly got through there
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
We are classier than Arsenal
We booed Jack to death. They are doing what any fans do to the majority of ex players.
I bet some of fans would have booed luiz as well had he played vs juve
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
We are classier than Arsenal
We booed Jack to death. They are doing what any fans do to the majority of ex players.
Without wanting to restart the Grealish debate, I would say that the circumstances of his leaving contributed to our reaction
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When we do go forward, Ollie looks isolated
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Keep it together and tight Villa. We have some tasty weapons to bring on late to try and win this.
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Booing an ex player is football 101 surely? Par for the course!
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Hello folks.
We are doing ok.
Was at the last one there.
Now that was proper limbs.
I went a bit mad when Ollie scored.
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
We are classier than Arsenal
We booed Jack to death. They are doing what any fans do to the majority of ex players.
Without wanting to restart the Grealish debate, I would say that the circumstances of his leaving contributed to our reaction
He’s an ex player. Let’s not pretend we haven’t done to other ex players. I used Grealish as a recent example.
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
We are classier than Arsenal
We booed Jack to death. They are doing what any fans do to the majority of ex players.
Without wanting to restart the Grealish debate, I would say that the circumstances of his leaving contributed to our reaction
Why? City matching the release clause and paying £100 million triggered the situation
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Kai Havenots shoots wide
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How lucky are we, we never ever have injuries whereas this commentator goes to great length explaining all the injuries Arsenal have suffered.
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Fucking brilliant from Ollie.
So slow to support him
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Too slow for support for ollie.
He did so well there to hold the ball
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Fucking brilliant from Ollie.
So slow to support him
No effort whatsoever to give him an option.
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no suport
fuck off tarmac head
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Arteta is such a tit.
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Why aint the flag going straight away ffs making emi potentially injury himself. So dumb
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We don’t boo Matt Target, do we?!
We are classier than Arsenal
We booed Jack to death. They are doing what any fans do to the majority of ex players.
Without wanting to restart the Grealish debate, I would say that the circumstances of his leaving contributed to our reaction
Why? City matching the release clause and paying £100 million triggered the situation
I was meaning what Jack said about the club, and then leaving
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Fuck, chance for ollie
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Thast ollie at his worst
Terrible effort
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Difficult chance for Ollie but Duran scores that I reckon.
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Ollie more composure, bloody hell.
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Fuck, chance for ollie
Becoming a bit of a thread
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Watkins should be sticking that away
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There he is.
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thast a good chance
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Thast ollie at his worst
Terrible effort
It was hardly a sitter
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Fuck, chance for ollie
Difficult chance for Ollie but Duran scores that I reckon.
On what basis?
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My gosh, I reckon 9/10 footballers score that.
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That was a seriously good chance Watkins has just spooned.
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As Townsend says, if Ollie had hit it directly rather than attempt the lob, he'd have had a good chance of scoring
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Fuck
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Watkins having one of those days so far.
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Ollies standard hit it straight at defender once a games just happened.
Hopefully a warmup for a goal
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Shit.
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getting sick of ndy townsend licking arses arses
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1-0 fuck off
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Maatsen absolutely shit there
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Bollocks!
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Oh bollocks. A bit unlucky there.
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So shit from maatsen there
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Maatsen absolutely shit there
sleeping
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Fuck, chance for ollie
Difficult chance for Ollie but Duran scores that I reckon.
On what basis?
The Bayern goal if nothing else
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My gosh, I reckon 9/10 footballers score that.
Come on now, he should do better but it’s not an open goal 4 yards out.
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FFS. They get in behind so easily!
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Balls
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jammy ******
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FFS Maatsen asleep at the back post , really poor
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Watkins miss then Arsenal score.
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God I hate Arsenal
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Thought we’d weathered the storm a bit as well.
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And that’s the game. We won’t break them down.
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Spawny fuckers.
Come on Villa we've shown enough here to get something here.
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Onana really is made of fucking paper isn’t he
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Onana injured now
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Onana hurt again
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Reckon we should have been winning before their goal. Profligate up top again.
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So shit from maatsen there
He's been crap in his positioning all game. I was surprised he was chosen for this game tbh. Great going forward but Digne is the better defender
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There are times when Ollie has deserved some serious criticism - but too many here jump on his back at every opportunity. He's been tremndous for us over the past coupple of seasons
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Would have brought Malen on
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Bogarde ????
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Onana hurt again
Always banjaxed, this fella.
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Onana off Bogarde in midfield!? Game over
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Bogarde?! WTF?
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Come on we can still do these.
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Bogarde wtf.
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Watkins miss then Arsenal score.
Yep weak defending and not enough clinical finishing again
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bogarde oh
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Bogarde?
Cluckin' Bell.
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Maatsen is having a stinker
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50m on another injury prone player 🤦♂️
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bit like the home game chance missed and boom
cant keep doing this
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We should have scored two already.
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Why not bring on Emi2 and drop YT back deeper?
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Maatsen's been poor.
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Can we criticise Emi?
Thought that was very poor from him...
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Martinelli has a face you would never tire of slapping.
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Need to get to half time here
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50m on another injury prone player 🤦♂️
Who’s the other one?
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Maatsen is having a stinker
Seems more suited as the impish sub, coming on to run the legs off the opposition in the latter stages.
Set up isn't great starting.
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Would have been better off starting with Duran.
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There are times when Ollie has deserved some serious criticism - but too many here jump on his back at every opportunity. He's been tremndous for us over the past coupple of seasons
Now he is not.
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Full-backs tend to be good going forward or good defensively. They're rarely both.
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Need to stay in this now. They aren’t all that.
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Can we criticise Emi?
Thought that was very poor from him...
You certainly can but what was poor?
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Need to stay in this now. They aren’t all that.
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Going long to Ollie is madness when our midfielders won’t go beyond halfway to support him
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Seriously, the number of times they're getting it to the byeline is ridiculous.
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There are times when Ollie has deserved some serious criticism - but too many here jump on his back at every opportunity. He's been tremndous for us over the past coupple of seasons
Now he is not.
Hes put a hell of a lot of work in so far today and done a job for the team in giving us an out
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Maatsen is having a stinker
Looks lightweight and positionally all at sea
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Would have been better off starting with Duran.
Even Duran would probably favour a bit of support.
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Millimetres in it for their goal
Onana off, Bogey on.
A big ask for the kid to do a job.
Ollie just needs to stop thinking and start shooting.
Maatsen didn't notice Martinelli coming in behind him for the goal - should he have had a shout?
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50m on another injury prone player 🤦♂️
Who’s the other one?
Erm ramsey ?
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Maatsen is having a stinker
Looks lightweight and positionally all at sea
not even checking your man is inexcusable at this level. Paying no attention whatsoever.
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Why did the ref stop that?
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Rogers not in the game , midfield has been poor
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I think Rogers is getting the dark arts thrown at him
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They are just quicker to the ball than us all over the pitch
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Unai has some serious organising to do at half time.
We can get back into this but we need midfield to be far more mobile
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Why did the ref stop that?
Mat was on his way.
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probably our poor half like wetham and leicester recently
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Rogers needs to calm down. His overall play been shit
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We can't even string 2 passes together then you've got Watkins getting completely bullied by their makeshift defence. Comical!
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There are times when Ollie has deserved some serious criticism - but too many here jump on his back at every opportunity. He's been tremndous for us over the past coupple of seasons
Now he is not.
Hes put a hell of a lot of work in so far today and done a job for the team in giving us an out
And been useless in front of goal.
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There are times when Ollie has deserved some serious criticism - but too many here jump on his back at every opportunity. He's been tremndous for us over the past coupple of seasons
Now he is not.
Hes put a hell of a lot of work in so far today and done a job for the team in giving us an out
And been useless in front of goal.
From 2 half chances
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They really are better than us.
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Tielemans has really struggled of late.
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book him then we was away there
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We are letting them be better than us.
We are better than this.
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Shite from Tielemans in midfield then
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Too many players wilting
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We did ok, all is not lost but we need to find a way of asking a few more questions of their defence.
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HT
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youri ffs
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Watkins does not deserve half the criticism he gets. Tremendous villa striker.
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No time for the corner surely?
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Hope we have a go second half. We’re as good as this lot!
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Konsa frustrates me. Players running off him looking for the ball and what does he do? Fucking stands on it. This happens week in week out. Move the fucking ball forward!
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Can still get something out of this.
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Decent half with some bright transitions. Tough luck for Onana :-\
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Really poor that we've let them get ahead . They looked nervous and vulnerable at the back and we haven't exposed that enough.
Maatsen needs hooking at HT .
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Too many players wilting
Watkins Mastsen have been poor, you can not carry 2 players at this level.
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Full-backs tend to be good going forward or good defensively. They're rarely both.
Digne's pretty good at both.
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Poor half from us
Apart from maatsen shot we have done hardly anything to trouble raya.
I dint get thw bogarde sub that is a very wierd sub. Why not malen? Or buendia?
Digne for maatsen at HT for me
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Tielemans has really struggled of late.
He hasn't played well for weeks, in that role surely Buendia has deserved a chance to at least see how he gets on.
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We haven't been awful just not quite on it. Come on Unai get it sorted at HT.
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Ref letting Woolwich have a go even though time was up.
Anyway, not too bad but Maatsen struggling and Onana a loss. Had chances that we spurned. Again.
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If possible we need to be a bit more composed. On the few occasions when it’s been played through midfield we’ve created something and looked dangerous but the 3 behind Watkins haven’t shown enough or got on the ball. There’s been too many hoofs up to an outnumbered Watkins and it just comes straight back.
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Pretty rubbish.
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Decent half with some bright transitions. Tough luck for Onana :-\
For a big fella, he looks like he's made of glass.
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Wonder if we'll look at any kind of deal for a CM (even a loan) with the recent spate of injuries.
Those options from the bench weren't great to begin with.
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Tielemans with Kamara, Rogers down the middle and Bailey/Malen out wide would have been my switch. Bogarde will be chasing shadows in the middle poor lad.
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Too many players wilting
Watkins Mastsen have been poor, you can not carry 2 players at this level.
Watkins has not been poor; he's lacked support when we bang the ball to him
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Poor half from us
Apart from maatsen shot we have done hardly anything to trouble raya.
I dint get thw bogarde sub that is a very wierd sub. Why not malen? Or buendia?
Digne for maatsen at HT for me
Are you serious Will?
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Watkins does not deserve half the criticism he gets. Tremendous villa striker.
If he misses a decent chance , I can have a bit of a moan about it , it is a match thread.
Duran scores that .
But there is worse players today .
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50m on another injury prone player 🤦♂️
Who’s the other one?
Erm ramsey ?
Sorry didn’t realise we spent £50M on Jacob.
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I want to see more from Ramsay and Rogers. The former has been anonymous all game. I was probably a bit hyperbolic about Watkins miss, but I still would expect a pro footballer to get the shot on target at least.
Arsenal are the better side, we'll do well to get anything out of this. I'm sure Unai knows what to do.
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Konsa frustrates me. Players running off him looking for the ball and what does he do? Fucking stands on it. This happens week in week out. Move the fucking ball forward!
Cash was wide open down the line that time and Konsa bottled the pass. Really poor. We need to lift it a lot. That starts with Duran coming on. Maybe Buendia for Tielemans too.
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I just can’t see us scoring now. Arsenal, at home, with a lead is so bloody tough.
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Tielemans with Kamara, Rogers down the middle and Bailey/Malen out wide would have been my switch. Bogarde will be chasing shadows in the middle poor lad.
It's not on him - and he hasn't done too bad, in fairness.
But wouldn't be surprised if the sub gets subbed.
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Only Kamara in midfield looks ok the others have been poor
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Can still get something out of this.
I think so too. The Bogarde sub doesn't make much sense though.
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Tielemans with Kamara, Rogers down the middle and Bailey/Malen out wide would have been my switch. Bogarde will be chasing shadows in the middle poor lad.
Yes but probably too hung ho at this point for Unai
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Konsa frustrates me. Players running off him looking for the ball and what does he do? Fucking stands on it. This happens week in week out. Move the fucking ball forward!
I do agree
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MArtinez should have saved the goal - straight at him at a comfortable height.
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Digne on for Maatsen, on 60 if not 45. Maybe Malen on for Tielemans
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Can still get something out of this.
I think so too. The Bogarde sub doesn't make much sense though.
He wants us to retain some bite in midfield and both Meatball and Barkley are injured.
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Think Duran will be on soon we rather than later to at least try and bully them a bit. Watkins is making good runs but is being dealt with well.
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We are not at our best. Some of the Arse and their manager are very dislikeable. Hoping for a turnaround second half. We also have players on the bench that can make a difference.
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Tielemans with Kamara, Rogers down the middle and Bailey/Malen out wide would have been my switch. Bogarde will be chasing shadows in the middle poor lad.
Agreed.
Also Watkins is piling pressure on our defence with his misses - Duran would have scored at least one of the opportunities. Maatsen has been poor defensively - what is the point of having him on the pitch if he not busting a gut to get forward.
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Poor half from us
Apart from maatsen shot we have done hardly anything to trouble raya.
I dint get thw bogarde sub that is a very wierd sub. Why not malen? Or buendia?
Digne for maatsen at HT for me
Agree. Should have moved Tielemans back in the pivot and put Malen on with Rogers in the middle of the front three.
Olliie needs to put more of his chances away.
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Can still get something out of this.
I think so too. The Bogarde sub doesn't make much sense though.
He wants us to retain some bite in midfield and both Meatball and Barkley are injured.
Obvious change was to move Tielemans back and bring one of Bailey or Buendia on. Bogarde is lost at this level, waste of a sub.
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We’re trying to play calm but are being foiled by a very high energy Arsenal. We’ve got to get at them more. Maatsen asleep on the cross but other than that we’ve done ok in restricting them.
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Criminal ball watching from Maatsen there
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The problem with Tielemans is he’s brilliantly creative, which means he pretty much always looks for a killer pass. It means in form he’s fantastic, but out of form he gives the ball away so much. There’s not really a middle ground.
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Criminal ball watching from Maatsen there
Schoolboy stuff, 40 million?
Waste of money.
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We are not at our best. Some of the Arse and their manager are very dislikeable. Hoping for a turnaround second half. We also have players on the bench that can make a difference.
Only some?
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50m on another injury prone player 🤦♂️
Who’s the other one?
Erm ramsey ?
Sorry didn’t realise we spent £50M on Jacob.
original comment wasn't another £50M spent on an injury prone player though.
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This game is done. Just hope we can keep the score line respectable
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Poor half from us
Apart from maatsen shot we have done hardly anything to trouble raya.
I dint get thw bogarde sub that is a very wierd sub. Why not malen? Or buendia?
Digne for maatsen at HT for me
Are you serious Will?
Im afraid so Seinfeld
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Digne coming on. Won't claim too many Nostrodamus points there tbh...
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This game is done. Just hope we can keep the score line respectable
That's the spirit.
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50m on another injury prone player 🤦♂️
Who’s the other one?
Erm ramsey ?
Sorry didn’t realise we spent £50M on Jacob.
original comment wasn't another £50M spent on an injury prone player though.
Thank you charlatan. obviously trolling
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As Merse just said on Sky. For the goal, Maatsen doesn’t look behind him once to see where the danger is. That’s poor.
Im not sure he’s ye right choice against top sides , Djgne is a better defender. Against lower teams sure.
Id bring Digne on.
But Duran and Malen coming on at 0-1 could be interesting. We need not to concede. If they get another one , they’ll get a couple.
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Huge and dare I say it unrealistic standards on here if that was a poor half from us. Dear me.
We've picked our moments to attack and opened them up a few times but just can't get the final ball through. And when we do Ollie is having yet another match when he's passing when he should be shooting and shooting when he should be passing.
I get it's tempting to try to chip Raya but he had Rogers accelerating right behind him so it was effectively a 2 v 1 going into the box.
In tight games like this you can't spurn too many occasions.
Goal was disappointing aswell with Maatsen ball watching and Emi seemingly trying to catch from very close range but not like they've had endless attempts on goal.
Half time came at a good time and surely we'll put on some actual attackers around the hour mark so we're far from out of this.
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Digne on for Maatsen. Keep it tight don't give away any more goals and bring wrecking ball on around the hour mark. We can definitely get something out of this.
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Maatsen Onana what £70 million , keeps coming back to the summer transfer window.
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Think matsaan gamble back fired.
Very close first half - feels like the 30 secs might have done us - Onnana injured and then just over the line after matasaan turned off
Need to get Watkins some support - he’s done well I think but at one point there was no one for 50 yards near him when he broke
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Digne coming on. Won't claim too many Nostrodamus points there tbh...
So we can only get subs on in one more break?
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The problem with Tielemans is he’s brilliantly creative, which means he pretty much always looks for a killer pass. It means in form he’s fantastic, but out of form he gives the ball away so much. There’s not really a middle ground.
Plays long passes exquisitely, short passes, not so much
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Digne looks like he’s coming on at HT. Maatsen looks decidedly average defensively, better going forward.
So far so normal. Sloppy goal conceded: TICK. Missed a few good chances: TICK.
Still think we can get something but I’m baffled by the Bogarde sub.
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Well in the game until that awful defending by Mattson. Loosing Onana is also a massive loss. Strange sub. Just can't see the logic. Would love to see Rogers in the middle behind Watkins.
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Tielemans with Kamara, Rogers down the middle and Bailey/Malen out wide would have been my switch. Bogarde will be chasing shadows in the middle poor lad.
Agreed, that would have been my plan B.
Plus, in the future get rid of Ramsey and buy an out and out left winger.
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Digne coming on. Won't claim too many Nostrodamus points there tbh...
So we can only get subs on in one more break?
I thought that had gone now? Can't we put the 5 on at any time?
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We didn’t pay anywhere near that. Part of Kellyman deal
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Maatsen is a good player, he made a mistake it happens.
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Duran really is an amazing player when he's not on the pitch
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Arsenal went all out with a high press on our defenders to stop us playing it out from the back. They won't be able to keep that up for the whole game.
Ollie's first touch has always been a problem.
Digne will be on.
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Huge and dare I say it unrealistic standards on here if that was a poor half from us. Dear me.
We've picked our moments to attack and opened them up a few times but just can't get the final ball through. And when we do Ollie is having yet another match when he's passing when he should be shooting and shooting when he should be passing.
I get it's tempting to try to chip Raya but he had Rogers accelerating right behind him so it was effectively a 2 v 1 going into the box.
In tight games like this you can't spurn too many occasions.
Goal was disappointing aswell with Maatsen ball watching and Emi seemingly trying to catch from very close range but not like they've had endless attempts on goal.
Half time came at a good time and surely we'll put on some actual attackers around the hour mark so we're far from out of this.
I think for me, its been poor in a attacking sense. We have struggled to create much. A prime examplw was that chance when ollie went through and it felt like decades until any villa player came forward to support. At that point arsenal had smothered ollie and he was up against five players.
You would have thought rogers or youri would ahve come forward to be seen. Disappointing attacking display for me
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Duran really is an amazing player when he's not on the pitch
He’s pretty good when he’s on to be fair. But I think Ollie has done well.
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But what does Wills think??
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Bogarde may or may not turn out to be the wrong sub, but he’s done nothing wrong as of yet. We need to hold them at bay for the next 10-15 mins, if we do we’re well in this and the rest about Watkins and summer transfers is just noise.
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Digne coming on. Won't claim too many Nostrodamus points there tbh...
So we can only get subs on in one more break?
I thought that had gone now? Can't we put the 5 on at any time?
Ok, I hope so. Incidentally, Caterham, my old stamping ground!😁
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Maatsen didnt take his chance. Give him a start vs monaco
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Can we get AI to edit the footage from our 96 league cup win and replace Andy Townsend with someone else? Like Sid or someone. He seems to really, really want us to lose every time he commentates on us.
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Also,the ref is a prick
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Another ref who makes decisions based on the shoutometer.
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Also,the ref is a prick
So what's new.
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We lose so many 50/50’s
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Can we get AI to edit the footage from our 96 league cup win and replace Andy Townsend with someone else? Like Sid or someone. He seems to really, really want us to lose every time he commentates on us.
I saw a poster for him and Big Ron recently for one of those fan evenings. I was surprised he'd want to come and talk to Villa fans.
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Another ref who makes decisions based on the shoutometer.
Or whingeometer?
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Well done luca
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Can we get AI to edit the footage from our 96 league cup win and replace Andy Townsend with someone else? Like Sid or someone. He seems to really, really want us to lose every time he commentates on us.
I saw a poster for him and Big Ron recently for one of those fan evenings. I was surprised he'd want to come and talk to Villa fans.
See also Andy Gray
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That’s dreadful defensive play by Rogers.
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Ah lovely flick on ny Ollie there, shame...
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We really haven't turned up so far . Dismal
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Can we get AI to edit the footage from our 96 league cup win and replace Andy Townsend with someone else? Like Sid or someone. He seems to really, really want us to lose every time he commentates on us.
doesnt he just - had to turn over to Neville
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Ah lovely flick on ny Ollie there, shame...
You seem ahead of me
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Why did the flag go straight up for Ramsay but not when Arsenal were through offside?
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We don't look like scoring at all.
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It's annoying because we're better than this. But we're approaching it like a plucky Championship team.
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Sorry but bogarde a wasted sub dont think he has even touched the ball. Havent heard his name once
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Lots of candidates out there at risk of being hooked. Two wide midfielders aren't working and game is passing Tielemans by.
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It's annoying because we're better than this. But we're approaching it like a plucky Championship team.
Our record against the top teams is shocking this season
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Putting on Durán would see Arsenal immediately retreat 10 metres.
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We are stuggling to put 2 passes together.
Arteta has worked out the we really don’t like ‘up and at em football’
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We need to keep the ball when we win it back.
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2-0
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uselessss
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Expecting to see Ollie and JJ/Rogers hooked for Chaos and Donyell on at some stage.
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Well tat’s that.
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Was Onana injured constantly for Everton?
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FFS! That's that.
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Shocking. Fuck off Martinez
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Absolutely shit.
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even fucking donkey scores
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Absolute shite villa, awful performance
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Shocking. Fuck off Martinez
Sorry?
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This damage limitation approach with two extra central defenders hasn’t worked at all.
Got to take the game to them and play Duran now
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Cash the twat
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bit poor from emi?
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You’d back Martinez to save that.
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Game over
Donkey emi
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We have approached this game like ******.
Scared stiff from the off.
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I would throw both Duran and Malen on now
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Now we are looking poor. Did we start the second half?
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we have been pathetic today
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Fuck off. Yet another ball comes into the box unopposed. Our full backs are fucking shit.
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Bring on Duran and Malen and try to out score them.
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Cash fails to block cross, Konsa marking thin air and it's easier to save than let it in.
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Dreadful from Emi.
I’d have saved that.
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even fucking donkey scores
Haverz scoring is the final insult.
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Basically the same as Newcastle, Chelsea and Tottenham. Never got the impression we had the slightest belief that we wouldn't lose.
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Think Emi can do better there, by his high standards.
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It’s about keeping the score down now.
Villa have been shit
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I don’t want to hear we are tired. They played extra time on Sunday and Spurs on Wednesday
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Damage limitation now.
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Absolutely pathetic , this has been an embarrassing and shocking performance
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Fuck off. We haven’t stopped one, ONE cross. Pathetic defending.
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Oh well there goes the game.
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JJ jumped out of that collision, watch from the bench then pal
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Remember, 2-0 is the most dangerous lead.
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Unai stupid sub costs us with bogardes cost us.
Its clear we need pace go for baikey or malen
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get duran , malen and buendia and bailey on and get rogers , ramsey , watkins and bogarde off
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Tielemans for Bogarde (I knows it’s tough on the kid) in the pivot. Take off Ramsey for Malen and put Roger’s over on the left, with big Jhon up front.
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We are simply a soft team.
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First corner on 58
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Well we’re having an anus horibilis
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Game over. We are set up like a League One team in the 3rd round, hoping to nick one on the counter. We are not scoring 2 today.
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Damage limitation now.
Yep. Conserve it for Monaco
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Bring on the cavalry.
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Remember, 2-0 is the most dangerous lead.
Only for Villa.
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it was always going to be a tough match. I don’t think we’ve been that poor.
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arse fans always slagging trossard off , thats what pisses me off.
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Trossard has had Cash all game. Martinez poor on both goals. We’ll collapse now.
Bogarde sub was strange. Obviously Emery has faith in him but think this was the wrong call and asking a lot of the lad who hasn’t shown much in the games he’s played this season.
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Very little pressure on that in the box there
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Game on
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Yooooouuuurrrrriiiiiii
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Emery is having a Gerrard type game , pathetic
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Well we’re having an anus horibilis
A bummer indeed! ;)
Oooo. Youri scores!
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Fantastic goal
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Get in
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Goal!
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yourrrii
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That was more like it.
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Superb cross from Digne there. Arse defence as asleep as ours was 5 min ago
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Game over
Donkey emi
The kind of comment that reminds me to stay the fuck off live match threads.
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Some cross that from Digne, back in it!
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told you to keep youri on and get the 4 players off I said :)
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Yesssssss youri !!!
What a move
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Youri hits the post
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Great switch from Bogarde for the goal
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Get the fucking fuck in!!!!!!
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Yes Youri!!
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Ah Jeez, close!
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Where did that come from?!?! Get in Villa! Bogarde spread the ball for Digne! Great stuff!
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GETTTT INNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Youri hits the post
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Superb cross. Great goal
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Emery is having a Gerrard type game , pathetic
Please try and get your whining done in a timely fashion.
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Get in.
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post Villa
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Yessss, not over yet.
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Poo! Hits the post!
Come on, we're in this now!
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Wish we’d had a go from the start!
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That’s really close
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easily be 2 2
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Ffs so close youri !!!
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Get the fuck in - let’s take the game to them
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Fuck, great run from Ramsey and Youri hits the post
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Arsenal sprint up the pitch,we are so slow doing the same , expect a lot more ,we scored edited
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Fuck!
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Digne what a cross for the goal
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Loving the fact that all I can see is repetitive “fucks” on the above posts.
No idea if they’re good fucks or bad fucks.
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These will fold if we get at them.
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get duran and malen on to scare the fuckers
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We need to get into them. They will start rocking if we put them under.
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Get chaos on right now. Let him bully them.
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ref is a wanker
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Let's get something here: I hate these *******s!
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Arsenal players reffing the game
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That was a bollox yellow card. He's kicking it back towards where the free kick needs to be...
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Ffs unai
Touchline ban. So stupid by him
You can tell unai hates losing to arsenal
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Touchline ban for UE incoming, ridiculous!
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get duran and malen on to scare the fuckers
Ooo yes! :)
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The crowd has gone edgy again. Need to make the most of this lull and push them back.
Bring on the panda and malen.
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get duran and malen on to scare the fuckers
Ooo yes! :)
That’s the change we need now
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How's that a corner you clowns?
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Homer ref and linesmen.
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Digne is mad for it.
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get some pace on to hit these fuckers now and duran to beast the fuckers
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I do wish we would tackle with some real intent to win ball.
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Make the subs Unai.
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get some pace on to hit these fuckers now and duran to beast the fuckers
Exactly. Thats what we need.
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Tremendous play to carry the ball upfield by Ollie
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Yeeesssssss Ollie
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GET IN!!
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Great goal
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Get in!!!!! N
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Get the fuck in
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Brilliant from Ollie.
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Trossard you dirty fucker
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Ollieeeeee!!!
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Cracking ball
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Yessssssssd
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We can win this fucker
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Well, bugger me.
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wtf cash cross toooo
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Shows what happens when you expose their defence to crosses.
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Yes! :D
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Wow. Game the fuck on l.
Duran and Malen and we stuff these fuckers
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Ollie!
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Get in
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Fuck yes Ollie!
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Get the fuck in!
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GET INNNNNNN!!! Watkins that is exactly what I want from you! Top man
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OLLLLIEEEE!¬!!!!!
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this is fucking ace
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Watkins superb last 5 mins.
That’s a clash finish too.
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There he is!
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I love Ollie when he starts hitting a red run
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Game over. We are set up like a League One team in the 3rd round, hoping to nick one on the counter. We are not scoring 2 today.
Can I say, categorically: We are not winning today.
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Watkins superb last 5 mins.
That’s a clash finish too.
He’s been brilliant for the whole game
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Cash finally crossed a ball. I've seen everything now.
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Matty's injured.
Send Tossard off!
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Well, bugger me.
With a fish fork?
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Game over. We are set up like a League One team in the 3rd round, hoping to nick one on the counter. We are not scoring 2 today.
Can I say, categorically: We are not winning today.
Haha good man *saves this for later*
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This is the villa of last year seeing signs !
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Their defence has been worse than ours but you still have take the chances. Excellent
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Well, bugger me.
Indeed. Did not see this come back coming
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2 skanky goals for them, 2 beauties for us...let's beat them with a deflection at the death..
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Come on Villa!!!!
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Come on you villa boys
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Commentators really do like to point out our bad bits, don’t they ?
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Commentator not even trying to be unbiased
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Commentators really do like to point out our bad bits, don’t they ?
They seem to take almost a dark pleasure out of it.
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UnI needs to inject some pace in the side with subs
Emi ginba get booked
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Let the whinging and conspiracy theories commence.
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We’ll get a few free kicks in a bit…..maybe
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We need to nullify Trossard
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Sitting too deep again
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Keep it tight and take the point…or make attacking subs and risk losing going for the win? 🤔
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Commentators really do like to point out our bad bits, don’t they ?
Relentless with it.
That prat from the Everton game is still shouting it at passers by in the street.
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Rogers doing his usual.
Starts the game looking knackered and gets stronger and stronger as the game progresses
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cash had a nose bleed then on the break
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Refs given us absolutely nothing today
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Standard of reffing has completely gone through the floor
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We need to nullify Trossard
Put the bolt back in his neck ..
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Ref is fucking homer. Blowing for absolutely everything in their favour
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Refs given us absolutely nothing today
Totally correct.
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Ref giving them everything and more
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the ref playing for them
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Some finish from Ollie.
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MAKE A FUCKING SUB!
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Hows that a booking for kamara? Absolutely pathetic
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Ollie off……well,played that man
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The ref is obviously starstruck
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Ollie put in one hell of a shift. Great finish… 2 in 2 for him now..
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come on Duran winner
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If Duran scores the place will empty in 30 seconds lol...
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Cash you useless ******
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Suprised malens not come on. We need pace and why not bring him on?
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Duran thunderbastard loading……….
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cash got us in trouble
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We’ll get a few free kicks in a bit…..maybe
Not from this prick we won't. Should of had one for a foul on Rogers and he gave it the other bloody way. He's using the same method of giving free kicks as Anthony bottlejob Taylor. Gives it to the team that shouts the loudest.
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Cash has gotten absolutely battered today, but no whistle.
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Cash, the plonker, not learnt from Forest.
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Keep it tight and take the point…or make attacking subs and risk losing going for the win? 🤔
Stop showing them so much respect would be a start.
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Cash you useless ******
Looked like a foul to me.
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bogarde block
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Great header from Bogarde
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The r
Arsenal players reffing the game
The decisions are criminal
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Cash’s decision making there is generally aware
File under “ Forest Away “
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The referee was mostly tolerable when we were playing shit, but he's been a complete arse since we got back into it.
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stay on your feet Leon
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Well played ty
Bailey on for JJ
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When will Duran's wrist heal?
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Time for Donyell?
The immutable law of football - scores against his former club?
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When will Duran's wrist heal?
good luck charm
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good break Villa
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Was that the chance, from Bogarde
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Unlucky bogarde! Great effort
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Bollocks…
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Hand ball
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jammy fucks
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Bugger.
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Fuck the fuck off
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Yes.
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Got to be handball
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Yes you beauty
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yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Hand ball
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Dark arts and conspiracy theories now will run riot!
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Haaaaaaaaah!
Still worrying how easily it got to him though
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Ref is a wanker
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Denied.
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7 fookin minutes!!
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wheres 7 mins from??
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My sphincter just collapsed
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Commentator : "goal was ruled out for a brush on Havertz arm" It completely changed the direction of the ball you biased c***.
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I’ll take a point!
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Defending straight out of the Nottingham z Forest handbook.
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Sounds mad this I know but, hear me out.
I think the Arsenal fans might be even bigger fannies than Everton.
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7 fookin minutes!!
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Officials doing everything to make sure Arsenal get a winner
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7?
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Hardly any injuries or subs
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Great save Emi.
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Sounds mad this I know but, hear me out.
I think the Arsenal fans might be even bigger fannies than Everton.
Definitely getting that vibe here!
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wheres 7 mins from??
Three goals, so many subs and VAR check. I would have gone with 5 myself minimum.
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That was a corner 😤
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Corner cheating ******
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wheres 7 mins from??
Three goals, so many subs and VAR check. I would have gone with 5 myself minimum.
Wait,you get added time for goals?
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Commentator : "goal was ruled out for a brush on Havertz arm" It completely changed the direction of the ball you biased c***.
Even if it hadn't, still ruled out as it brushed his arm.
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Man this referring performance has been nothing short of abysmal
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wheres 7 mins from??
Three goals, so many subs and VAR check. I would have gone with 5 myself minimum.
Wait,you get added time for goals?
Supposed to be 30 secs per goal and sub I think or used to be back in the day
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I’ll take a point!
Hell yes.
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Captain black in the 4th Officials ear
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wheres 7 mins from??
Three goals, so many subs and VAR check. I would have gone with 5 myself minimum.
Wait,you get added time for goals?
Each one probably uses two minutes of time between the ball hitting the net and kick-off so I don't see why not.
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Our defending is terrifying!
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Phew, would have scored
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Duran has been very poor…..not helping the cause at all
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This referee is a real twat
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wheres 7 mins from??
Three goals, so many subs and VAR check. I would have gone with 5 myself minimum.
Wait,you get added time for goals?
Each one probably uses two minutes of time between the ball hitting the net and kick-off so I don't see why not.
We've got homes to go to you know
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The ref is one of the worst I have seen
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Duran has been very poor…..not helping the cause at all
He abit rusty we need to remember that. Hasnt played in like a month
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Tell me it's over!!!
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My Arsenal mate has just texted saying that it wasn’t a handball and every referee wants to “do over” Arsenal
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Duran has been very poor…..not helping the cause at all
He abit rusty we need to remember that. Hasnt played in like a month
He can still run
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Commentator : "goal was ruled out for a brush on Havertz arm" It completely changed the direction of the ball you biased c***.
Even if it hadn't, still ruled out as it brushed his arm.
Of course. I'm just pointing out how he trivialised it almost as if to say it might not have been a hand ball at all.
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We've got homes to go to you know
Not stating he should add that amount, they normally do a fixed one amount as stated by someone else.
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Great, last second free kick
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Commentators demanding an Arsenal goal
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Arsenal dangerous free kick.
My arse is trembling
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And done
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Come on. At the start we would have etc etc....
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A good draw
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Well done Villa. Great point away against twelve men.
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What a fucking wank referee.
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Yeeeeeeeessssss
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Where's all this extra additional time coming from?
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Deserved result
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Relief.
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Commentators demanding an Arsenal goal
As I said, just not even the vaguest hint of neutrality
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Have to say: Bogarde did a great job when he came on
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Brilliant point that!
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Bonza
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Great result
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2-0 and you fucked it up. Shame you entitled bunch of fucking tarquins.
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Decent point in the end . The Ref was cheating
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Great come back and result. Keeps the momentum going
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A great, well fought for draw!
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Fabulous stuff you Villa boys
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Great comeback. Fuck off back to Hampstead/Hertfordshire you moaning Tarquins.
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2-0 and you fucked it up. Shame you entitled bunch of fucking tarquins.
:D
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Arsenal did well to hold on.
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Commentators demanding an Arsenal goal
As I said, just not even the vaguest hint of neutrality
We had it the other week with Guy Mowbray at Newcastle. I was waiting for him to start singing The Blaydon Races. It's great to piss them off though.
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Read some of the halftime hyperbole on here.
There were some more sensible posts about fine margins
Overall that was a really good performance and a shout out for young Bogarde
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Love that they are playing Tears for Fears!
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Amazing come back, when have we ever done that against a sky team? This is probably one of the toughest places to go, so for us to come back is nuts. Well bloody done Villa.
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Read some of the halftime hyperbole on here.
There were some more sensible posts about fine margins
Overall that was a really good performance and a shout out for young Bogarde
Agreed
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Remember, 2-0 is the most dangerous lead.
Just leaving these words of wisdom here …
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People on here were questioning Unai Emery in that first half. He's almost beyond reproach for me.
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I know Arsenal were playing but was there another team playing. The commentators didn’t seem to think so
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People on here were questioning Unai Emery in that first half. He's almost beyond reproach for me.
Playing Maatsen today was certainly questionable.
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Love that they are playing Tears for Fears!
"Broken" ?
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Love that they are playing Tears for Fears!
"Broken" ?
“So glad we've almost made it
So sad they had to fade it”
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People on here were questioning Unai Emery in that first half. He's almost beyond reproach for me.
Playing Maatsen today was certainly questionable.
Although I have also seen lots of Maatsen must start posts the last few weeks. TBH some of those posters were probably the ones having ago that he did start as well.
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People on here were questioning Unai Emery in that first half. He's almost beyond reproach for me.
Playing Maatsen today was certainly questionable.
Although I have also seen lots of Maatsen must start posts the last few weeks. TBH some of those posters were probably the ones having ago that he did start as well.
I would have started him at Everton and then Digne today, as he's clearly the better the defender. But what do I kow?
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Trossard was superb for them today. A lot of their fans criticise him constantly. I'd have him at Villa. We'd show him some love.
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Trossard was superb for them today. A lot of their fans criticise him constantly. I'd have him at Villa. We'd show him some love.
Agree, punchable face, but I think he's a good player.
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Trossard was superb for them today. A lot of their fans criticise him constantly. I'd have him at Villa. We'd show him some love.
MC had a tricky opponent.
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Trossard was superb for them today. A lot of their fans criticise him constantly. I'd have him at Villa. We'd show him some love.
It we had had Trossard we would have won by a mile - even with the cheating that in black on their side!