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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on December 28, 2024, 09:50:24 AM
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Monday 30th December, 19.45.
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I think there will be a reaction there has to bw after what happened and how durans red stood despite massive controversy
I watched Brighton vs brentford and they were nlt great at all. We really need to be looking at 3 points here
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Need to win this to make it a decent festive period. Hopefully the extra day’s rest helps.
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3-0, Watkins (2), Bailey. All looks better with the Villa world.
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I think we'll win this one comfortably.
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Big Villa win. Watkins always scores against Brighton
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2-1 Villa. Two home wins on the bounce would bring back some of the festive cheer.
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Villa win. We are second to Lpool best form at home. We are worst form in the League away lost last five.
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The last 5 away was hard games other than spurzzz haa and at home we are looking better so a win here 3 - 0 .
I suppose he will go Konsa Rb for this , Id like to see Maatsen get a start and maybe Bailey will come in.
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Villa win. We are second to Lpool best form at home. We are worst form in the League away lost last five.
Terrible recent away form, caveated somewhat by the fixture list Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, Forest and Newcastle. Still this is at home against an indifferent, out of form Brighton who haven’t won in 5. I’ll go 2 or 3-1
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0-2
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That Pedro should be banned too.
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Yeah, no.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Onana
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Rogers
Watkins
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Onana
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Rogers
Watkins
Cash is suspended.
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That Pedro should be banned too.
I think thats what pisses me off more - not just the fact that duran appeal turned down where its impossible to know it was deliberate. Butcthe brighton one was deliberate and he missed yet no red card.
Its just pure and utter incompetence by the decision makers. No wonder why people are getting fed of football and turning their back on it. No consistency whatsoever
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That Pedro should be banned too.
I think thats what pisses me off more - not just the fact that duran appeal turned down where its impossible to know it was deliberate. Butcthe brighton one was deliberate and he missed yet no red card.
Its just pure and utter incompetence by the decision makers. No wonder why people are getting fed of football and turning their back on it. No consistency whatsoever
And they tie themselves verbally in knots trying to justify their mistakes, making themselves sound more incompetent in the process.
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Taking their cue from the politicians, I suppose. No austerity doesn't really kill folk and coming up with the latest wordsalad as to why what's happening in GAZA isn't really a genocide, honest. *****, the lot of them.
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Ollie Watkins loves scoring against Brighton. 3-1 Villa. We don’t do clean sheets. Ollie with 2, Onana with the other.
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Taking their cue from the politicians, I suppose. No austerity doesn't really kill folk and coming up with the latest wordsalad as to why what's happening in GAZA isn't really a genocide, honest. *****, the lot of them.
First thing that came to my mind when I saw Pedro hadn't been given a red card or retrospective punishment.
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Ollie Watkins loves scoring against Brighton. 3-1 Villa. We don’t do clean sheets. Ollie with 2, Onana with the other.
That’d be nice
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Onana
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Rogers
Watkins
Cash is suspended.
Vouchers for Christmas
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Cash is suspended.
Bloody Keir Starmer, before long he’ll ban everything.
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Thought I might have a look at getting a couple of tickets on the Holte as a Christmas present to myself and then seen the prices - good grief! Explains why I can get two together…
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I'd stick Ned in then or Bogarde
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I'd stick Ned in then or Bogarde
I know you really want Mings in Tim. I love Mings for the record, but on the basis of your post Torres is more of a defensive problem than Ned or Bogarde??
Both look good prospects, but they are not the answer this Monday night.
If Emery doesnt want to experiment with two left footed CBs, it’ll be Carlos and Torres all day long with Konsa at RB.
Other than that, I think it may end up being the same midfield as the last two games, with Watkins and Rogers up top.
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I'd stick Ned in then or Bogarde
I know you really want Mings in Tim. I love Mings for the record, but on the basis of your post Torres is more of a defensive problem than Ned or Bogarde??
Both look good prospects, but they are not the answer this Monday night.
If Emery doesnt want to experiment with two left footed CBs, it’ll be Carlos and Torres all day long with Konsa at RB.
Other than that, I think it may end up being the same midfield as the last two games, with Watkins and Rogers up top.
Yes I do want Mings in. The defence is an unorganised shambles without him . We need leaders at the back .
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I'd stick Ned in then or Bogarde
I know you really want Mings in Tim. I love Mings for the record, but on the basis of your post Torres is more of a defensive problem than Ned or Bogarde??
Both look good prospects, but they are not the answer this Monday night.
If Emery doesnt want to experiment with two left footed CBs, it’ll be Carlos and Torres all day long with Konsa at RB.
Other than that, I think it may end up being the same midfield as the last two games, with Watkins and Rogers up top.
Yes I do want Mings in. The defence is an unorganised shambles without him . We need leaders at the back .
I like Mings a lot but I can’t be the only one to remember he dropped a massive bollock at least once a match? Some of the silly things we see that lead to goals now were happening when he played on a regular basis and people were getting, rightly, fed up of it.
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Emerys first season Mings was excellent and made very few mistakes.
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I'd stick Ned in then or Bogarde
I know you really want Mings in Tim. I love Mings for the record, but on the basis of your post Torres is more of a defensive problem than Ned or Bogarde??
Both look good prospects, but they are not the answer this Monday night.
If Emery doesnt want to experiment with two left footed CBs, it’ll be Carlos and Torres all day long with Konsa at RB.
Other than that, I think it may end up being the same midfield as the last two games, with Watkins and Rogers up top.
Yes I do want Mings in. The defence is an unorganised shambles without him . We need leaders at the back .
And Bogarde or Ned will help with that ‘shambles’ more than Torres?
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Emerys first season Mings was excellent and made very few mistakes.
We need the Konsa / Mings CB pairing back .
Torres is a weak link even his supposed passing brilliance is no longer evident .
Diego can be either superb or shite , more or less in equal measure.
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We need Bailey back and firing on all cylinders as soon as possible. At times last season he was the best player in the whole league and played a massive part in Villa achieving Champions League football. Our Mo Salah!!
We know he has it in the locker. Start him today, be patient, and hopefully he will regain that form in the coming weeks.
Our midfield is taking shape and Mings will hopefully improve the defence. If Bailey starts to perform, the second half of the season could be very bright.
Our current position in the league is underwhelming (being polite). Bailey of last season has been a massive loss. Let's give him a chance to play 'back into form' before writing him off.
I would start him tomorrow.
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I'm not sure I'd start him today. I'd definatley start him to tomorrow though :)
Joking aside, I would start him too. Watching Brighton the other night, Wissa caught them a couple of times on the break and had one disallowed for a tight offside.
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I'm not sure I'd start him today. I'd definatley start him to tomorrow though :)
Joking aside, I would start him too. Watching Brighton the other night, Wissa caught them a couple of times on the break and had one disallowed for a tight offside.
Cheers Clampy, don't know my ass from my elbow these days. Duly edited.
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It’s time for Ollie and Bailey to find some really good form, that with Ramsey getting some minutes and we could really push on now.
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It’s time for Ollie and Bailey to find some really good form, that with Ramsey getting some minutes and we could really push on now.
Another false dawn?
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It’s time for Ollie and Bailey to find some really good form, that with Ramsey getting some minutes and we could really push on now.
Another false dawn?
Crikey, got the January blues already Chicago!
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It’s time for Ollie and Bailey to find some really good form, that with Ramsey getting some minutes and we could really push on now.
Another false dawn?
Crikey, got the January blues already Chicago!
Sorry mate.
I have been in the , now (insert Name of choice) will be back we can start pushing on camp.
I am convinced that this will not happen with a defence that still leaks 2 goals a game.
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Great chance to go 6th tomorrow if newcastle lose
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I don't think they will lose, but it will put some distance between the top 9 and the ones below if we win. Currently quite a fight going on for 5th place.
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This won't be easy, but our home form has been generally very good. A win will set us up for the second half of the season.
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Onana
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Rogers
Watkins
Cash is suspended.
Tim always seems to miss stuff like this. I wonder if he does it on purpose?
In completely unrelated news, Coopers Injury/silhillvilla was often stupid on purpose.
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I'd stick Ned in then or Bogarde
I know you really want Mings in Tim. I love Mings for the record, but on the basis of your post Torres is more of a defensive problem than Ned or Bogarde??
Both look good prospects, but they are not the answer this Monday night.
If Emery doesnt want to experiment with two left footed CBs, it’ll be Carlos and Torres all day long with Konsa at RB.
Other than that, I think it may end up being the same midfield as the last two games, with Watkins and Rogers up top.
Yes I do want Mings in. The defence is an unorganised shambles without him . We need leaders at the back .
I like Mings a lot but I can’t be the only one to remember he dropped a massive bollock at least once a match? Some of the silly things we see that lead to goals now were happening when he played on a regular basis and people were getting, rightly, fed up of it.
You’re misremembering mate. His clanger against Brugge was his first error leading to a goal in something like 2340 minutes. In his last 16 league games we kept 7 clean sheets and conceded 9 goals, never more than 1 in a game. I think he’s kept something like 16 clean sheets in 18 England appearances. Doesn’t quite tie in with ‘a massive bollock at least once a match’.
Apologies to the posters on here who hate facts - they know who they are.
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Not really disputing the overarching point, and I don’t think he does drop a clanger every game either, but a player could make a glaring error in every game and still be in a defence that keeps clean sheets.
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Which makes continuing to leave him out the team a bit baffling.
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Not really disputing the overarching point, and I don’t think he does drop a clanger every game either, but a player could make a glaring error in every game and still be in a defence that keeps clean sheets.
They could, but I don’t care about inconsequential mistakes.
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Mings should be starting this one . Cash being suspended does throw a curveball into the decision making process though . Let's see .
I'd also get the armband back to Mings asap and let McGinn focus on his game (won't happen though )
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Not really disputing the overarching point, and I don’t think he does drop a clanger every game either, but a player could make a glaring error in every game and still be in a defence that keeps clean sheets.
They could, but I don’t care about inconsequential mistakes.
Well it might only be inconsequential because of someone else’s intervention - be that attacking error or defensive excellence. Point being clean sheets are a good proxy but they aren’t necessarily representative of an individual defender being infallible or not making the odd big error a game. I wouldn’t call it out but you’re presenting it in a very binary way. Conversely I’d say our lack of clean sheets doesn’t mean Digne isn’t having very good season defensively (for example).
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4.2
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All I know is that Joao Pedro will score for them just to rub salt into the red card wounds.
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4.2
Is that a clause in a contract?
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100% Mings needs to start.
2-1 Villa
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Mings wont start as konsa will be at right back so it will be carlos and pau at cb.
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4-2
Watkins hat trick & Rogers
2 awful defensive errors to gift them goals.
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My six year old lad’s first ever game this evening. Make it a memorable one please Villa.
Brighton haven’t been great lately, our home form is pretty decent, should be a comfortable home win a la Brentford.
3-1 Villa.
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My six year old lad’s first ever game this evening. Make it a memorable one please Villa.
Brighton haven’t been great lately, our home form is pretty decent, should be a comfortable home win a la Brentford.
3-1 Villa.
I suspect it’ll be very different to Brentford, in that Brighton will attack in a way that will stress us more.
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Mings wont start as konsa will be at right back so it will be carlos and pau at cb.
I think that's definitely the most likely, but Emery has thrown in RB curveballs before (Ned / Bogarde).
I wouldn't be completely shocked if he chucks Ned in. Different circumstances obviously, but it was him that came on for Cash on Boxing Day rather than DC.
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My six year old lad’s first ever game this evening. Make it a memorable one please Villa.
Hope you both have a wonderful time. My lad of the same age is doing his third against Leicester and he loved the first two. Late Bournemouth equaliser notwithstanding.
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Mings wont start as konsa will be at right back so it will be carlos and pau at cb.
I think that's definitely the most likely, but Emery has thrown in RB curveballs before (Ned / Bogarde).
I wouldn't be completely shocked if he chucks Ned in. Different circumstances obviously, but it was him that came on for Cash on Boxing Day rather than DC.
That would be risky against Mitoma
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It would, but that doesn't mean he definitely won't do it. It would have been less risky to do Konsa - DC - Torres - Digne against Everton, but Bogarde still got 90 minutes while DC stayed on the bench.
Like I say, I think Konsa is more likely - but Ned's (and Bogarde for that matter) in the squad rather than out on loan because Emery clearly thinks he's capable of playing when needed.
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I've finally run out of patience with the TV moves and will give this one a miss, it's no good saying that it's during a holiday period, not for everyone it isn't and I have an early start tomorrow so they can shove it and I'll watch at home.
I'm not reading too much into Boxing Day, the red card changed the game and who knows what might've happened if we had decent officials?
I'd like to see Mings back, and a clean sheet would be more than welcome. We're good, and we'll show it tonight.
2-0
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It's a concern anyway, but even more so, while Duran is out, apart from Watkins and Rogers, the only other scorers in the league, are Onana 2 goals, Barkley 2, Konsa and Cash both 1. No goals from McGinn, Tielemans and Bailey is simply not good enough.
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It's a concern anyway, but even more so, while Duran is out, apart from Watkins and Rogers, the only other scorers in the league, are Onana 2 goals, Barkley 2, Konsa and Cash both 1. No goals from McGinn, Tielemans and Bailey is simply not good enough.
Yup. Even Torres had chipped in with a couple by this time last season.
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I've finally run out of patience with the TV moves and will give this one a miss, it's no good saying that it's during a holiday period, not for everyone it isn't and I have an early start tomorrow so they can shove it and I'll watch at home.
I'm not reading too much into Boxing Day, the red card changed the game and who knows what might've happened if we had decent officials?
I'd like to see Mings back, and a clean sheet would be more than welcome. We're good, and we'll show it tonight.
2-0
I don’t think the game is on TV tonight.
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I've finally run out of patience with the TV moves and will give this one a miss, it's no good saying that it's during a holiday period, not for everyone it isn't and I have an early start tomorrow so they can shove it and I'll watch at home.
I'm not reading too much into Boxing Day, the red card changed the game and who knows what might've happened if we had decent officials?
I'd like to see Mings back, and a clean sheet would be more than welcome. We're good, and we'll show it tonight.
2-0
I don’t think the game is on TV tonight.
It's not on SKY
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I'd imagine we are playing on Monday because Brighton's previous game was on Friday, by request of Amazon TV. So, although our game isn't televised, it has still been scheduled because of TV. If that makes sense.
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Mings wont start as konsa will be at right back so it will be carlos and pau at cb.
I think that's definitely the most likely, but Emery has thrown in RB curveballs before (Ned / Bogarde).
I wouldn't be completely shocked if he chucks Ned in. Different circumstances obviously, but it was him that came on for Cash on Boxing Day rather than DC.
Yep true. Both ned and bogarde have had very little game time so would be a big gamble to start one of them. Wouldnt shock me if it was a sub appearance
From memory does anyone know how many times mings and carlos have played together at cb together? I dont think its many has it ?
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Mings wont start as konsa will be at right back so it will be carlos and pau at cb.
I think that's definitely the most likely, but Emery has thrown in RB curveballs before (Ned / Bogarde).
I wouldn't be completely shocked if he chucks Ned in. Different circumstances obviously, but it was him that came on for Cash on Boxing Day rather than DC.
Yep true. Both ned and bogarde have had very little game time so would be a big gamble to start one of them. Wouldnt shock me if it was a sub appearance
From memory does anyone know how many times mings and carlos have played together at cb together? I dont think its many has it ?
Can't think of any. Carlos was injured while Mings was playing under Gerrard / Emery. Then Mings got injured and I don't think they've played in Mings few appearances since coming back.
edit - the cup defeat to Palace this season, half an hour against Wolves in May 2023, most of the 2-1 win against Everton in August 2022.
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Must win game it feels
Martinez
Ned
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Onana
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Rogers
Watkins
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Must win game it feels
Martinez
Ned
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Onana
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Rogers
Watkins
I think I'd go with that - McGinn on right to help cover Ned. Not ideal but Mitoma a threat.
As others have said we need Ollie and at least A.N Other to start chipping in with some goals. We have had enough chances in most home games when we should have done better. Forest Saints Bournemouth Palace ManU
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I'd imagine we are playing on Monday because Brighton's previous game was on Friday, by request of Amazon TV. So, although our game isn't televised, it has still been scheduled because of TV. If that makes sense.
Absolutely, and I'm aware that it's not on Sky.
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Mings wont start as konsa will be at right back so it will be carlos and pau at cb.
I think that's definitely the most likely, but Emery has thrown in RB curveballs before (Ned / Bogarde).
I wouldn't be completely shocked if he chucks Ned in. Different circumstances obviously, but it was him that came on for Cash on Boxing Day rather than DC.
KN has looked miles off PL standard in his recent cameos. Bogarde is nowhere near good enough either.
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Three points please, Unai.
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It’s written in the stars that Joao Pedro will score tonight when in fact he should be sitting out the next 3 league games.
Score first and we’ll win comfortably.
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It’s more than time for Mings to be brought back.
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It’s written in the stars that Joao Pedro will score tonight when in fact he should be sitting out the next 3 league games.
Score first and we’ll win comfortably.
Might stick a £5 on Pedro scoring now
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It’s written in the stars that Joao Pedro will score tonight when in fact he should be sitting out the next 3 league games.
Score first and we’ll win comfortably.
Might stick a £5 on Pedro scoring now
I’d niggle him the whole game.
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I think Mings must've pissed in Unai's coffee. He must be really fed up having worked so hard to get back from injury but not getting a start. It's not as if our defence is so great that it doesn't need changing is it?