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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on December 15, 2024, 06:36:48 PM
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Saturday, 12:30pm kick-off.
FTF 8)
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With our defence……….
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With our defence……….
Although, with their defence too....
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Anyone entertaining, even for a second, the thought that we won't gift Man City the three points they desperately need just hasn't been paying attention to Aston Villa for the last forty years or so.
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Man City losing to those glory hunting twats then beating us is exactly the sort of thing that always happens, to piss me off. Away win.
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Their form is worse than ours, that's the problem...
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they let Alvarez go and bring back Gundogan and Silva looks a busted flush.
Matheus Nunes why ?
stop with the snail pace at the back and get into them like we did against Brentford.
any news on JJ?
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I'm struggling to think of a more spectacular downturn by any team in any sport.
Possibly Leeds when Clough took charge.
There's a film in it. "The Damned 115" starring Patrick Stewart as Pep Guardiola.
Anyway based on what these two are like, I'll go for 3-3 draw with all goals in the last 10 minutes.
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Anyone entertaining, even for a second, the thought that we won't gift Man City the three points they desperately need just hasn't been paying attention to Aston Villa for the last forty years or so.
I've never been more certain that we will lose a game. I'd genuinely be more confident if they were 10 points clear at the top.
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Oh, how I am so looking forward to a week of "Typical Villa" posts.
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Players to be dropped - Carlos Torres Watkins
------- Martinez --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
-- Kamara - Tielemans --
McGinn --------- Buendia
--- Rogers --------------
-------- Duran-----------
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0-2
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Players to be dropped - Carlos Torres Watkins
Watkins hasn't started the last two league games to be dropped.
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Plus Torres only started because Mings was ill.
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Players to be dropped - Carlos Torres Watkins
Watkins hasn't started the last two league games to be dropped.
It’s almost like he’s an absolute troll.
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They’ll win.
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You just know we are go to go and hope these fucks next week
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You just know we are go to go and hope these fucks next week
Say again?
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You just know we are go to go and hope these fucks next week
Say again?
Wake me up before we go to go go….
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Players to be dropped - Carlos Torres Watkins
Watkins hasn't started the last two league games to be dropped.
Ok Watkins to be further rested . Duran deserves to start again , he did his job well yesterday .
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You just know we are go to go and hope these fucks next week
Say again?
I was just running it for you alexalex 🤪
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If you'd said at the start of the season that if we beat Man City in December we go above them then I'd have been happy with that.
And we could do this.
But we wont
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Citeh losing from 1 nil up to Manure with a couple of mins to go is obviously going to be the bottom of the barrel. We’ll get done next weekend.
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If you'd said at the start of the season that if we beat Man City in December we go above them then I'd have been happy with that.
And we could do this.
But we wont
They've been shite for months though , it's not like beating them nowadays is anything special anymore
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Players to be dropped - Carlos Torres Watkins
------- Martinez --------
Cash Konsa Mings Digne
-- Kamara - Tielemans --
McGinn --------- Buendia
--- Rogers --------------
-------- Duran-----------
Rogers off the left, Tielemans further forward with Onana next to Kamara I hope. No chance of Buendia starting.
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Man City haven't won for weeks. They must be rock bottom after today. We all know what happens here don't we? Prove me wrong Unai.
Go back to a flat back four despite the fact that Cash is crap. Mings and Konsa in the middle, Maatsen left back.
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It'll probably come down to who can out bore the other.
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We’re going to have to have to attack much better to stand a chance.
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We’re going to have to have to attack much better to stand a chance.
Conceding our usual 2 goals wont help either.
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This lot are as bad as they've been since they binned Alan Ball. If we don't beat them, we need shooting.
Mings on Gvardiol at set-pieces please as that's their best hope of pwning us.
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We’re going to have to have to attack much better to stand a chance.
Conceding our usual 2 goals wont help either.
The attack is the most important bit here. If we try and nick a 1-0 we’ll lose.
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1 win in 11 for Citeh. As it's the season for giving I fear, with our defence, it will be 2 in 12. Hope I'm wrong. UTV.
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We attack them like last year, 3-0. We play shitty, slow, tippy tappy, 0-2.
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The most predictable result of the weekend. Man City win.
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3-3
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne
Kamara
Onana
Tielemens
Rogers
McGinn
Duran
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I'd love us to add to their losing streak, but we've been here too many times before.
If there was ever a dead cert to whack a tonne of money on, it's an away win in this one. 🫤
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They have no legs in midfield - target that and Walker
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We’re due to give someone a good lamping soon and Man City might still have some way to go before they start to turn things around. Big Villa win.
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We'll lose to these I think. 1-3.
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I think it will be a tight edgy game and probably comedown to the ref.
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For the last 6 years or more we have all watched Man City* camped around the oppositions box and eventually breaking through a ten man defence. They have been worked out!!
Keep a man or two up the field (half way line) and it completely fucks them up. They can't go camping anymore. The last thing an aging team wants is to be stretched.
If we go for the jugular from the off we will beat this lot.
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Oh, how I am so looking forward to a week of "Typical Villa" posts.
As long as they are this week and not next week.
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Goal fest 4-4 i am going for
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They have no legs in midfield - target that and Walker
Walker is finished, think Rogers can get a lot of joy if selected there. Might be one of the few times it could be worth giving Watkins a go on that side at some stage.
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As soon as Waker went into podcasts, he was finished. Nice acting yesterday too, another string to his bow.
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I'm going for a 1-1 draw.
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We'll win 2-0. FTBMF!
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That’s better!
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3-1 Villa win, City looked awful yesterday completely void of confidence.
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0-2
Neither team can defend, so it could be 7-5 or 5-7
So....it'll be 0-1
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We really need to get out of the ‘typical Villa’ mentality that assumes we’re certain to lose this game.
2-1 Villa. Duran at the double.
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Last 10 mins yesterday, they looked like us.
Interesting to see how we both approach this
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Could you imagine two teams that couldnt defend a goal fest expected and it ends 0-0
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Could you imagine two teams that couldnt defend a goal fest expected and it ends 0-0
I’m expecting 5 - 0!
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Nailed on Defeat.
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Unai please start Mings, Onana, Duran.
Oh and Konsa right centre half.
Cheers VL.
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It'll probably be a draw. Two sides struggling to properly impose themselves on a league that is in transition, and for Villa, a few tired minds. I'd take a draw actually. But a loss would be harder to take (pre-game)
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If that clown Rico Lewis is playing the Rodri role then we have a chance .
A full week without a game will help us too . Never bet on the early KO , think I'll keep my powder dry on this one , could go either way .
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We'll win 2-0. FTBMF!
Thought BE was back for a sec. I know he's cantankerous but he's missed.
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BE has gone? Hope everything okay.
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Haven't seen him for a while. No scorchios either. End of an era.
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I'm with the optimists.
Fuck these synthetic gobshites, with their 'unprecedented' bad run - that stretches back about 15 years to when they were still shit.
3-1 to the Villa.
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I fear we will be too passive here, which won’t expose Citeh’s weaknesses. We just don’t have that sharpness in attack, or pace. If we try to sit in that will 100% suit them.
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They are floundering like a fish out of water.
We don’t have a killer instinct
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
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I wouldn't be dropping Duran after two goals (and good ones at that) in his last two. Maybe he'll play them both? He has suggested it. With Onana and Kamara in the middle, it might work.
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
Yeah i want to see kamara and onana together too. That looks good on paper
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Take II , Mings & Duran to start.
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I wouldn't be dropping Duran after two goals (and good ones at that) in his last two. Maybe he'll play them both? He has suggested it. With Onana and Kamara in the middle, it might work.
Playing Watkins wide and Duran up front feels as though it could work and would give us pace on the wings but I can’t see Unai doing it.
It would certainly signal our intent to go at them rather than plod along and play into their hands.
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With our lack of attacking options if we can get Oli and Duran to work it would be very useful to get us through to January and also the retune of Bailey and Ramsey.
I'd go with Duran up top and Watkins in the Bailey role.
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
Yeah i want to see kamara and onana together too. That looks good on paper
We conceded two goals against Forest with that central midfield because we couldn't keep possession. I'd be amazed if he tried it again.
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
Yeah i want to see kamara and onana together too. That looks good on paper
We conceded two goals against Forest with that central midfield because we couldn't keep possession. I'd be amazed if he tried it again.
We concede two goals against lots of teams, with lots of difference midfield combinations. So I'd suggest preparing yourself to be amazed.
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We’re away for Christmas so I’ll miss this one which means it’s bound to be our best performance of the season and a resounding win.
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I’d be interested to see Oli on the left of attack with Digne behind, McGinn on the right with Cash overlapping. Duran up top and Roger’s ahead of Onana and Kamara.
It could work or Oli could get in his own head for not starting up top.
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
Yeah i want to see kamara and onana together too. That looks good on paper
We conceded two goals against Forest with that central midfield because we couldn't keep possession. I'd be amazed if he tried it again.
We cant give up on it because it struggled against forest. Needs to be given a few games i think and given time to gel and build a partnership up.I think it was more the back four than those two goals tbf
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
Yeah i want to see kamara and onana together too. That looks good on paper
We conceded two goals against Forest with that central midfield because we couldn't keep possession. I'd be amazed if he tried it again.
We concede two goals against lots of teams, with lots of difference midfield combinations. So I'd suggest preparing yourself to be amazed.
I doubt it. He’d resisted it thus far. He wants a ball player there.
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Saturday was the first time they have both been fit though. The double pivot of those two, Youri as the 10 then a combination of 3 from Watkins, Duran, Bailey, Rogers, Ramsey would, on paper, look decent.
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I doubt it. He’d resisted it thus far. He wants a ball player there.
What, he chose not to play a fit Onana with an injured Kamara, or a fit Kamara next to an injured Onana?
That's not the biggest surprise.
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I doubt it. He’d resisted it thus far. He wants a ball player there.
What, he chose not to play a fit Onana with an injured Kamara, or a fit Kamara next to an injured Onana?
That's not the biggest surprise.
If that was true you’d have a point!
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I doubt it. He’d resisted it thus far. He wants a ball player there.
What, he chose not to play a fit Onana with an injured Kamara, or a fit Kamara next to an injured Onana?
That's not the biggest surprise.
If that was true you’d have a point!
The last game Onana played before being injured while with Belgium, was the defeat to Liverpool on November 9th, and he hasn't been deemed fit enough to start since. The first game that Kamara was involved in having been out since last season was the Juventus game on November 27th.
I appreciate that everything has to be viewed through the "Onana is awful and a waste of money" lens, but let's not just make things up.
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I doubt it. He’d resisted it thus far. He wants a ball player there.
What, he chose not to play a fit Onana with an injured Kamara, or a fit Kamara next to an injured Onana?
That's not the biggest surprise.
If that was true you’d have a point!
The last game Onana played before being injured while with Belgium, was the defeat to Liverpool on November 9th, and he hasn't been deemed fit enough to start since. The first game that Kamara was involved in having been out since last season was the Juventus game on November 27th.
I appreciate that everything has to be viewed through the "Onana is awful and a waste of money" lens, but let's not just make things up.
He was on the bench against Southampton and Leipzig. Now who's making things up?
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Him being on the bench is not evidence that he is fit to start a match.
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Being on the bench ≠ evidence that he's fit enough to start.
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“Oooohhh, look at me! I’m going to use the ‘does not equal’ symbol to appear more intelligent than Olneythelonely, whilst saying the exact same thing. Pathetic.”
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I doubt it. He’d resisted it thus far. He wants a ball player there.
What, he chose not to play a fit Onana with an injured Kamara, or a fit Kamara next to an injured Onana?
That's not the biggest surprise.
If that was true you’d have a point!
The last game Onana played before being injured while with Belgium, was the defeat to Liverpool on November 9th, and he hasn't been deemed fit enough to start since. The first game that Kamara was involved in having been out since last season was the Juventus game on November 27th.
I appreciate that everything has to be viewed through the "Onana is awful and a waste of money" lens, but let's not just make things up.
He was on the bench against Southampton and Leipzig. Now who's making things up?
Yeah, that's still you. Introducing Onana back from the bench like he has done with pretty much ever player returning from injury doesn't mean he's "resisting" playing Onana and Kamara together.
I mean, maybe you're correct. Maybe Emery, a manager with a history of playing two defensive midfielders at every club he's ever had sustained success with is never going to choose to play our club record signing (Onana) alongside the player who many people seem to believe is our best midfielder (Kamara) on the strength of them playing 15 minutes together at the weekend.
But it strikes me as unlikely.
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“Oooohhh, look at me! I’m going to use the ‘does not equal’ symbol to appear more intelligent than Olneythelonely, whilst saying the exact same thing. Pathetic.”
I literally found out how to do it the other day. Looking forward to more opportunities to use this new found skill tbh.
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“Oooohhh, look at me! I’m going to use the ‘does not equal’ symbol to appear more intelligent than Olneythelonely, whilst saying the exact same thing. Pathetic.”
I literally found out how to do it the other day. Looking forward to more opportunities to use this new found skill tbh.
I don’t know how. 😔
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I doubt it. He’d resisted it thus far. He wants a ball player there.
What, he chose not to play a fit Onana with an injured Kamara, or a fit Kamara next to an injured Onana?
That's not the biggest surprise.
If that was true you’d have a point!
The last game Onana played before being injured while with Belgium, was the defeat to Liverpool on November 9th, and he hasn't been deemed fit enough to start since. The first game that Kamara was involved in having been out since last season was the Juventus game on November 27th.
I appreciate that everything has to be viewed through the "Onana is awful and a waste of money" lens, but let's not just make things up.
He was on the bench against Southampton and Leipzig. Now who's making things up?
Yeah, that's still you. Introducing Onana back from the bench like he has done with pretty much ever player returning from injury doesn't mean he's "resisting" playing Onana and Kamara together.
I mean, maybe you're correct. Maybe Emery, a manager with a history of playing two defensive midfielders at every club he's ever had sustained success with is never going to choose to play our club record signing (Onana) alongside the player who many people seem to believe is our best midfielder (Kamara) on the strength of them playing 15 minutes together at the weekend.
But it strikes me as unlikely.
If he wasn't resisting playing them together id have no argument whatsoever so wouldn't have posted. so that's just illogical.
I appreciate you think people who disagree with you are "w*****s" but I am allowed to have a different - and perhaps more informed - view than yours!
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I appreciate you think people who diosagree with you are "w*****s" but I am allowed to have a different - and perhaps more informed - view than yours!
You're welcome to have whatever opinion you want. It just seems to me to be very clouded by your peculiar hostility towards Onana.
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I appreciate you think people who diosagree with you are "w*****s" but I am allowed to have a different - and perhaps more informed - view than yours!
You're welcome to have whatever opinion you want. It just seems to me to be very clouded by your peculiar hostility towards Onana.
Maybe the world isn't as black and white as your world view? So best to live and let live?
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I appreciate you think people who diosagree with you are "w*****s" but I am allowed to have a different - and perhaps more informed - view than yours!
You're welcome to have whatever opinion you want. It just seems to me to be very clouded by your peculiar hostility towards Onana.
Maybe the world isn't as black and white as your world view? So best to live and let live?
It's a discussion about team selection for a football match, I'm not annexing your village.
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“Oooohhh, look at me! I’m going to use the ‘does not equal’ symbol to appear more intelligent than Olneythelonely, whilst saying the exact same thing. Pathetic.”
I literally found out how to do it the other day. Looking forward to more opportunities to use this new found skill tbh.
Used to be != when I was a programmer back in the day.
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On Android you just hold down the = sign and you get a choice of =, ≠ or ≡. I can't remember what the last one means.
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On Android you just hold down the = sign and you get a choice of =, ≠ or ≡. I can't remember what the last one means.
Threequals. Obviously
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I appreciate you think people who diosagree with you are "w*****s" but I am allowed to have a different - and perhaps more informed - view than yours!
You're welcome to have whatever opinion you want. It just seems to me to be very clouded by your peculiar hostility towards Onana.
Maybe the world isn't as black and white as your world view? So best to live and let live?
It's a discussion about team selection for a football match, I'm not annexing your village.
Exactly. Thank you!
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On Android you just hold down the = sign and you get a choice of =, ≠ or ≡. I can't remember what the last one means.
Is equivalent to (I think.)
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On Android you just hold down the = sign and you get a choice of =, ≠ or ≡. I can't remember what the last one means.
Me neither.
The triple bar or tribar, ≡, is a symbol with multiple, context-dependent meanings indicating equivalence of two different things. Its main uses are in mathematics and logic. It has the appearance of an equals sign ⟨=⟩ with a third line. Wikipedia.
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How does that differ from "is equal to"?
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How does that differ from "is equal to"?
"It goes beyond mere equality by implying a deeper congruence between the two entities."
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I don't think my understanding ≡ any greater than before, tbh. ☹️
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I don't think my understanding ≡ any greater than before, tbh. ☹️
It's probably the equivalent though.
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They are floundering like a fish out of water.
We don’t have a killer instinct
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Huh?
We've got Duran
Mighty Jhon Duran
I just don't think you understand
Seriously, he's a natural born killer instinctor.
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Oh and I'm impressed that a H&Ver (JCollett) has his own village!
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Oh and I'm impressed that a H&Ver (JCollett) has his own village!
Me too! No doubt Christian Purslow funded it!
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I don't think my understanding ≡ any greater than before, tbh. ☹️
I understand it in logic, but not in computer science or mathematics, unless integer numbers are used as the result of expressions, in which case the remainder or mod comes into effect.
You've opened up a can of worms, tbh.
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Oh and I'm impressed that a H&Ver (JCollett) has his own village!
That's nothing, one of the other Colletts here has his own federal district.
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On Android you just hold down the = sign and you get a choice of =, ≠ or ≡. I can't remember what the last one means.
Me neither.
The triple bar or tribar, ≡, is a symbol with multiple, context-dependent meanings indicating equivalence of two different things. Its main uses are in mathematics and logic. It has the appearance of an equals sign ⟨=⟩ with a third line. Wikipedia.
So is it like in programming where things "exactly" or "probably do" match (=== v == for example). I.e. 123 and '123' could be considered equal - but to a computer one is a number the other is text?
Edit - I dont think Im right. I think its like 1 tonne of feathers is equiviliant to one tonne of water in weight. But not in "wetness" terms
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On Android you just hold down the = sign and you get a choice of =, ≠ or ≡. I can't remember what the last one means.
Me neither.
The triple bar or tribar, ≡, is a symbol with multiple, context-dependent meanings indicating equivalence of two different things. Its main uses are in mathematics and logic. It has the appearance of an equals sign ⟨=⟩ with a third line. Wikipedia.
So is it like in programming where things "exactly" or "probably do" match (=== v == for example). I.e. 123 and '123' could be considered equal - but to a computer one is a number the other is text?
Edit - I dont think Im right. I think its like 1 tonne of feathers is equiviliant to one tonne of water in weight. But not in "wetness" terms
In computing, and explained in terms we can all understand:
= is an assignment of a value, for example 'var biggestTwatOnForum = CoopersInjury' would set the variable biggestTwatOnForum to 'CoopersInjury'.
== is a check for equivalence, ie 'CoopersInjury == twat' would return TRUE.
=== checks that the value AND the datatype are the same, so 'CoopersInjury === SilhillVilla' would return true as they're both the same value AND they're both the same type, ie twats.
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Hahahaha
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On Android you just hold down the = sign and you get a choice of =, ≠ or ≡. I can't remember what the last one means.
Me neither.
The triple bar or tribar, ≡, is a symbol with multiple, context-dependent meanings indicating equivalence of two different things. Its main uses are in mathematics and logic. It has the appearance of an equals sign ⟨=⟩ with a third line. Wikipedia.
So is it like in programming where things "exactly" or "probably do" match (=== v == for example). I.e. 123 and '123' could be considered equal - but to a computer one is a number the other is text?
Edit - I dont think Im right. I think its like 1 tonne of feathers is equiviliant to one tonne of water in weight. But not in "wetness" terms
In computing, and explained in terms we can all understand:
= is an assignment of a value, for example 'var biggestTwatOnForum = CoopersInjury' would set the variable biggestTwatOnForum to 'CoopersInjury'.
== is a check for equivalence, ie 'CoopersInjury == twat' would return TRUE.
=== checks that the value AND the datatype are the same, so 'CoopersInjury === SilhillVilla' would return true as they're both the same value AND they're both the same type, ie twats.
I know nothing about computing, but that's actually a really great explanation because I understand it
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
Yeah i want to see kamara and onana together too. That looks good on paper
We conceded two goals against Forest with that central midfield because we couldn't keep possession. I'd be amazed if he tried it again.
Kamara had gone off before the second goal hadn’t he?
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Let's face facts, everything, and I mean everything points to a restoration of form for them and misery for us. It always happens to us, we help everyone else out etc etc.
But that's not in the mindset of the Manager and he will be eyeing the win here, or at least (and I'd take it) a draw.
I'm beginning to think that we are in something of a transition from Emery's initial tenure to the next stage and that means iffy results, confused team selection and a feeling of deflation. Yet look where we are in both the PL and CL.? Don't think for a minute that we can't put these fiddling ****** to the sword.
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I can not even think about predictions because it is so much down to the referee.
They with their mates in Stockley Park are now deciding who wins and who loses.
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We have Onana back. Him and Kamara together in the middle would work for me.
Martinez
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
McGinn Rogers
Tielemans
Watkins
Gives solidity, ball carriers, ball players, and pace up front.
Yeah i want to see kamara and onana together too. That looks good on paper
We conceded two goals against Forest with that central midfield because we couldn't keep possession. I'd be amazed if he tried it again.
Kamara had gone off before the second goal hadn’t he?
Yes he had. I'd be surprised if Onana starts but just because he's coming back from injury, guess he'll get 20-30 mins.
Youri looks like he needs a bit of a rest
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3.1 to us.
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Villa to edge this 9-8
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Youri looks like he needs a bit of a rest
He had a good rest at the weekend.
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At least we’re not piss pooling around in some worthless domestic cup quarter-final tonight
Gives the team more time to prepare for the bigger fish were frying at the weekend
Priorities and all that bollocks
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Let's face facts, everything, and I mean everything points to a restoration of form for them and misery for us. It always happens to us, we help everyone else out etc etc.
But that's not in the mindset of the Manager and he will be eyeing the win here, or at least (and I'd take it) a draw.
I'm beginning to think that we are in something of a transition from Emery's initial tenure to the next stage and that means iffy results, confused team selection and a feeling of deflation. Yet look where we are in both the PL and CL.? Don't think for a minute that we can't put these fiddling ****** to the sword.
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When asked about our ongoing defensive awesomeness on Sat he said it’s a process.
I’m a bit concerned this process = a good team transitioning to an average one.
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Mings in for Torres , Cash in at RB , push Konsa across . 3 points .
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There are two strong Villa traits at play here:
- being the team every other team or player wants to play against when they're on a bad run
- always ruining Christmas
So both point to an early Christmas present for Citihad.
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There are two strong Villa traits at play here:
- being the team every other team or player wants to play against when they're on a bad run
- always ruining Christmas
So both point to an early Christmas present for Citihad.
Sad and predictable. First game I'm missing this season, can't decide if it's a good or bad thing.
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I think we will win possibly even comfortably. City have been playing dreadfully for weeks even when they were winning in that donkey derby last weekend. If we go at them with a high tempo like we did last season rather than the ultra slow methodical build up, we can expose their lack of legs all over the pitch. McGinn can be key for us, coming nicely into form of late and these are the kinds of games he loves.
Really need Tielemans moved out of midfield and pushed further up.
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Not likely to ditch the slow and methodical though, are we?
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I think we will win possibly even comfortably. City have been playing dreadfully for weeks even when they were winning in that donkey derby last weekend. If we go at them with a high tempo like we did last season rather than the ultra slow methodical build up, we can expose their lack of legs all over the pitch. McGinn can be key for us, coming nicely into form of late and these are the kinds of games he loves.
Really need Tielemans moved out of midfield and pushed further up.
I would be astonished if we won comfortably. I’d be delighted, but I suspect it’ll still be tough. We’ve hardly been scintillating in the league of late.
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I fancy us to he well on top in the game only to give them an absolute gift, which will subsequently be seen as the turning point in their season.
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Funny enough wr have only lost once in the league at home and that was our first home game vs arsenal.
We have drawn too many at home thats the issue.
I would probably take a point on Saturday all things considered
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Foden to have his mandatory good game against us?
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Not likely to ditch the slow and methodical though, are we?
Maybe not totally but we can be incredibly slow at times and that will allow City to settle. Emery does switch things up on occasion like at Leipzig where he completely outfoxed their coach with Cash's positioning. Seemed like we went direct to Watkins and Duran a lot that night too. With Rodri out City don't have a midfielder capable of screening in front of their back 4. The likes of McGinn and Rogers could have a field day breaking in from the sides.
Also with Mings back in I think we can play that high defensive line with a lot more confidence. With Carlos/Torres we know they don't have the pace to get back if they are turned. Konsa/Mings would be a lot better. Haaland barely broke sweat last weekend so we need to keep him squeezed up near the half way line and hopefully he loses interest.
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This is certainly a game for an emotional hedge bet. We both score but they win is 5-2. I’ll have a little bite of that.
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Watch the Mancs fuckers play their best game in months against us.
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442 or 4231 for me tomorrow.
Emi
Dinge
Konsa
Mings
Cash
Rogers
Kamara
Tielemans
McGinn
Watkins
Duran
Or
Emi
Dinge
Konsa
Torres
Cash
Onana
Kamara
Rogers
Tielemans
McGinn
Watkins
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If we lose it won't be by much. We may sneak a draw,
1-1 or 1-2 is my guess.
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I do think this narrative that City are broken and we’re favourites is odd. Obviously they’re in a bad place, but we’ve played 7 games against other teams in the top 10 and we’ve lost 5, drawn 1 and lost 1. I’d be surprised and delighted if we win, but the only way to do it is to get at them.
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I do think this narrative that City are broken and we’re favourites is odd.
They're Evens and we're 23/10 despite being at home, so Citeh are still solid favourites.
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Last season before we played them, when I found out Rodri was out I knew we'd win. This year no rodri and they're in all sorts of disarray. There's never going to be a better time to join the pile on and stick it to them.
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Last season before we played them, when I found out Rodri was out I knew we'd win. This year no rodri and they're in all sorts of disarray. There's never going to be a better time to join the pile on and stick it to them.
We were in a very rich vein of form then and confidence was high. We are no where near that level now. Citeh have been poor but it wont stay that way.
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There is seemingly something quite awry with them isn't there, but as fun as it is to see them struggle like in the olden days, I agree that it probably won't last.
A team with that much quality can't stay shit forever, but whatever happens, they've certainly lost the air of invincibility that great teams - including ones that have been financially doping for a decade - have.
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We're so losing this. Of course we are. Baffles me that anyone could doubt it.
Not because we're bad or they're good or whatever, because it is absolutely written that, given a chance to do something really great and funny, Aston Villa will flop to disappointment.
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It's Christmas, we will be shit.
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We're so losing this. Of course we are. Baffles me that anyone could doubt it.
Not because we're bad or they're good or whatever, because it is absolutely written that, given a chance to do something really great and funny, Aston Villa will flop to disappointment.
Yes.
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Ollie used to play wide didn't he ?
Is there an option to play Ollie in Bailey's position and Duran up front ?
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Ollie used to play wide didn't he ?
Is there an option to play Ollie in Bailey's position and Duran up front ?
Yes. There's also the option to play Watkins at centre half, but it's just as unlikely to happen.
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There is seemingly something quite awry with them isn't there, but as fun as it is to see them struggle like in the olden days, I agree that it probably won't last.
A team with that much quality can't stay shit forever, but whatever happens, they've certainly lost the air of invincibility that great teams - including ones that have been financially doping for a decade - have.
I think it's a bit more serious than recent form just dropping off temporarily. Injuries and age have caught up with some of their key players like Stones, KdB and Walker. Their signings since the treble have been in the main dreadful. Letting Palmer and Alvarez go seem really poor decisions too.
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There is seemingly something quite awry with them isn't there, but as fun as it is to see them struggle like in the olden days, I agree that it probably won't last.
A team with that much quality can't stay shit forever, but whatever happens, they've certainly lost the air of invincibility that great teams - including ones that have been financially doping for a decade - have.
I think it's a bit more serious than recent form just dropping off temporarily. Injuries and age have caught up with some of their key players like Stones, KdB and Walker. Their signings since the treble have been in the main dreadful. Letting Palmer and Alvarez go seem really poor decisions too.
And Rogers for £1m, the divs.
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Anything could happen. Two inconsistent teams, potentially excellent on their day, prone to silly mistakes the next.
Fingers crossed.
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We're so losing this. Of course we are. Baffles me that anyone could doubt it.
Not because we're bad or they're good or whatever, because it is absolutely written that, given a chance to do something really great and funny, Aston Villa will flop to disappointment.
While this is the attitude we'll always struggle to be successful.
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Mings and Bailey available so is that only Ramsey out now?
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Dias is out for them and maybe the keeper as well.
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Ramsey can't be far away now , saw him in the pics this week .
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Stuck a fiver on 4-4. Big goal fest incoming
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We're so losing this. Of course we are. Baffles me that anyone could doubt it.
Not because we're bad or they're good or whatever, because it is absolutely written that, given a chance to do something really great and funny, Aston Villa will flop to disappointment.
While this is the attitude we'll always struggle to be successful.
Fortunately, I'm not in the team tomorrow.
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Dias out for them is a bonus.
I do think Kamara and Onana in the midfield is key for us.
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First home game for me and Aston-Lee since Dean Smith was sacked. He is so excited (Aston-Lee, not Dean Smith).
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Hope he enjoys it.
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Yes hope he has a brilliant time.
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Two Legions at Villa Park. No, can't possibly think of a single thing that could go wrong.
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Anything could happen. Two inconsistent teams, potentially excellent on their day, prone to silly mistakes the next.
Fingers crossed.
This for me, 2 teams that can make crazy mistakes you can't get your head around, total artisan, and yet, on there day are the 2 most exciting teams in the Premiership, complete juggernauts, I'm going with a draw.
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Two Legions at Villa Park. No, can't possibly think of a single thing that could go wrong.
0-4???
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Two Legions at Villa Park. No, can't possibly think of a single thing that could go wrong.
0-4???
-1² = +1, we'll win.
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Two Legions at Villa Park. No, can't possibly think of a single thing that could go wrong.
Two negatives make a positive?
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We have been at best pretty mediocre in the league this year. It’d be really nice to really go for it today and for it to click.
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Whatever happens today, it will all be about Man City
Villa win - media frenzy about Man City decline and Pep.
Man City Win - media frenzy about Man City back on track
Draw - media frenzy about Man City’s continued problems
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It’s about time we have a decent run over Christmas. 2-0 us, Duran and Onana.
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We're so losing this. Of course we are. Baffles me that anyone could doubt it.
Not because we're bad or they're good or whatever, because it is absolutely written that, given a chance to do something really great and funny, Aston Villa will flop to disappointment.
While this is the attitude we'll always struggle to be successful.
The Collapse and players turning into jellyfish is in the clubs and the team is DNA so this obviously seeps into the fan base
I was at Forest last week to see the absolute pathetic last 10 minutes It was a shit show Unfortunately I’ve seen it many many times over many many years, that’s just a fact
People talk about Tottenham being Spursy we’re worse
I thought Unai Emery might have been the one to have stopped it, but he hasn’t it still remains
If it’s to change has to start with the players, then the fans will feed off that and become more positive but at the moment it’s not looking likely
Let’s see how we get on today
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I’m hungover have had hardly any sleep and am blearily making my way to Villa Park. I really should know better at my age. Ugh.
Oh and a dire 0-0.
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20,000 nil to the oil bandits
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Roads really quiet. So is the Bartons.
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Came early to beat the crowds in the club shop. Quiet in there as well. Got Aston's shirt without a queue.
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Catering is indeed shocking. Ordered and paid for a hot dog for Aston-Lee to then be told there is a 10 minute wait.
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Wow watkins on benceh again. Suprised at that
Greasy grealish starts
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That City side is still exceptionally strong. Very annoying Stones is back.
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No philiogene or carlos in squad