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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on December 07, 2024, 01:47:55 PM
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Golly.
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That’s a lot of changes. Not sure at all about it.
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Is that the Bree that used to play for us? We should be beating that team comfortably, and I think we will.
Surprised Mings didn't start.
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Good to see Southampton's fourth-choice goalkeeper getting another run out.
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I know we've got the Leipzig game next but I'd prefer to have seen Mings keep his place. Cash not starting presumably also because of the Leipzig game but again I think he deserves to start.
It'll be interesting to see how Duran does with his start.
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Is that the Bree that used to play for us?
Yup
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Hmmm I get managing the squad with Tuesday coming up. But it seems like he’s treating it like we are playing a minnow in a cup tie.
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I'm suddenly not as confident as I was about half an hour ago
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Oh and konsa at right back always works.
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Oh and konsa at right back always works.
Not always, but more often than not. Not a common pick in this type of fixture though, he usually saves it for the toughest defensive games.
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As well Leipzig we’ve got Forest next week. Unai was always going to make a number of changes for one of the games. Makes sense that it’s this one.
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Whole back four changed, don't mind seeing Duran up front.
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As well Leipzig we’ve got Forest next week. Unai was always going to make a number of changes for one of the games. Makes sense that it’s this one.
Agreed, strong bench too.
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Hmm not sure about this. Duran and maatsen im happy with
But pau and konsa at rb not a fan.
I guess we have to be cautions with mings minutes.
Just hope this does not back fire spectacularly as we need a win here
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Think he's managing minutes before the Leipzig game?
What's with Mings and Cash being dropped. - thought they did well against Brentford.
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Different back 4, risky. Also with the wind the ball could spend a lot of the time in the air, Mings might of been suited to that. We’ll see
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So, having just got the defence back on track, Emery decides to change it completely? Let's hope it works.
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Wow.
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I think we will miss Mings aerial strength today
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Think he's managing minutes before the Leipzig game?
What's with Mings and Cash being dropped. - thought they did well against Brentford.
I would think it has nothing to do with their performance, but needed for next week.
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Win please Villa.
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I think we will miss Mings aerial strength today
Aren't their attackers all about 5ft 6?
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I dunno... We have only won one game in about 3 years and we need to carry that on against 'the likes of' Southampton. Good to see Onana back involved.
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I think we will miss Mings aerial strength today
Aren't their attackers all about 5ft 6?
Paul onuachu is 6,7
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I know we need to rotate the squad and what not but I made Watkins captain of my FPL team this week so this is really disappointing news. #EmeryOut
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I think we will miss Mings aerial strength today
Aren't their attackers all about 5ft 6?
Paul onuachu is 6,7
Given he's not in their squad, it's probably not worth playing Mings just to counter that non-existent threat is it?
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The 3 centre halves have played together plenty, it's not like it's a brand new defence
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I think we will miss Mings aerial strength today
Against Cameron Archer?
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Any chance of a Bailey goal today?
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I just think that weather wise it's a day for no nonsense defending rather than anything clever or subtle.
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Emery has clearly thought, "fuck it. It's only Southampton"
Surprised Barkley didn't get a start though in that case.
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The 3 centre halves have played together plenty, it's not like it's a brand new defence
Totally.
Also, let’s not get carried away with Wednesday being the blueprint for the future. We did well and got the points, but the quality of our game was (for me) substantially on a par with other recent fixtures (that we should have also won), the main difference being that we got the rub of the green and were perhaps a bit more clinical.
Oh, and Torres remains one of our most important players.
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Emery has clearly thought, "fuck it. It's only Southampton"
Surprised Barkley didn't get a start though in that case.
I'd be horrified if that was the case! The next game is always the most important one. If we don't win today it will backfire massively.
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Emery has clearly thought, "fuck it. It's only Southampton"
Surprised Barkley didn't get a start though in that case.
I don't believe it to be this way at all. Everyone needs minutes, have to manage load and also Duran and maatsen need a start for us to really see how they are and integrate them further
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This is an opportunity to get back into the top 6 and turn the negative goal difference around, not fuck it up, give yet more stupid goals away and play like benevolent nice guys. We are not at home to Mr Fuck Up.
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This is an opportunity to get back into the top 6 and turn the negative goal difference around, not fuck it up, give yet more stupid goals away and play like benevolent nice guys. We are not at home to Mr Fuck Up.
Let's see how the game pans out first.
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I know we need to rotate the squad and what not but I made Watkins captain of my FPL team this week so this is really disappointing news. #EmeryOut
You weren't the only one. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy47n8pk8nvo
Just to clarify, I don't play Fantasy Football.
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Emery has clearly thought, "fuck it. It's only Southampton"
Surprised Barkley didn't get a start though in that case.
In his presser, Emery was underlining how he needs both players for each position to play themselves into form. So for example, it’s not enough for Digne to be on it, Maatsen must be too. And they can’t do that without games.
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Wasn’t that our first choice defence against Bayern?
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Wasn’t that our first choice defence against Bayern?
Digne started, no? But get your point.
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Emery has clearly thought, "fuck it. It's only Southampton"
Surprised Barkley didn't get a start though in that case.
I don't believe it to be this way at all. Everyone needs minutes, have to manage load and also Duran and maatsen need a start for us to really see how they are and integrate them further
That's kind of my point. Everyone needs minutes except Barkley apparently. He must be a little pissed off seeing the rest of the supporting act get a start whereas it's just business as usual for him.
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Wasn’t that our first choice defence against Bayern?
Nope.
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Oh and konsa at right back always works.
Statistically proven or something. No need at all for the Konsa/Carlos axis of chaos to be selected at home to Soton.
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Emery has clearly thought, "fuck it. It's only Southampton"
Surprised Barkley didn't get a start though in that case.
I don't believe it to be this way at all. Everyone needs minutes, have to manage load and also Duran and maatsen need a start for us to really see how they are and integrate them further
That's kind of my point. Everyone needs minutes except Barkley apparently. He must be a little pissed off seeing the rest of the supporting act get a start whereas it's just business as usual for him.
In fairness, Barkley was abysmal when he came on in midweek
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Think I'm correct in saying this is only Durans 2nd Premier start.
The other being Palace away last game of the season.
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Oh and konsa at right back always works.
Statistically proven or something. No need at all for the Konsa/Carlos axis of chaos to be selected at home to Soton.
We have to be able to rotate against shit teams like this and still win.
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Emery has clearly thought, "fuck it. It's only Southampton"
Surprised Barkley didn't get a start though in that case.
I don't believe it to be this way at all. Everyone needs minutes, have to manage load and also Duran and maatsen need a start for us to really see how they are and integrate them further
That's kind of my point. Everyone needs minutes except Barkley apparently. He must be a little pissed off seeing the rest of the supporting act get a start whereas it's just business as usual for him.
In fairness, Barkley was abysmal when he came on in midweek
Yep, he was. Kind of backs up his need for minutes though
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Think I'm correct in saying this is only Durans 2nd Premier start.
The other being Palace away last game of the season.
City away?
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Wasn’t that our first choice defence against Bayern?
Nope.
My bad. Digne started v Bayern.
Got mixed up with Bologna.
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Think I'm correct in saying this is only Durans 2nd Premier start.
The other being Palace away last game of the season.
City away?
Started the 1-1 against West Ham last season too.
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We've way too much across every position for this shower. 4-0.
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I think we will miss Mings aerial strength today
Aren't their attackers all about 5ft 6?
Paul onuachu is 6,7
Given he's not in their squad, it's probably not worth playing Mings just to counter that non-existent threat is it?
That wasnt the question though was just pointing out they do have a very tall striker whether he is in the squad or not
Also wouldnt it be good to have a bit of height for set pieces? Id have given mings 45 mins today but can understand if he is being rested for champions league
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I think we will miss Mings aerial strength today
Aren't their attackers all about 5ft 6?
Paul onuachu is 6,7
Given he's not in their squad, it's probably not worth playing Mings just to counter that non-existent threat is it?
That wasnt the question though was just pointing out they do have a very tall striker whether he is in the squad or not
Well the "question" was whether we'd miss Mings' height in today's game.
I'm not worried about how Torres deals with James Beattie or Rickie Lambert either.
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Can't see it being tactical to be honest, more that we have 3 games in a week. I think Leipzig is a pretty big game midweek given the big advantage finishing in the top 8 brings.
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Our finishing eleven is likely to be 50% different from our starting eleven.
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Lots of changes but the difference in this and a cup game line up is
1- there’s a load of strength on the bench which isn’t always the case in cup games
2- mentality, it’s a premier league game and they will treat it as such,
whereas there’s a can’t be arsed attitude that comes out for the domestic cups because we think we’re better than we actually are
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McGinn's hair is always funny.
Been to them Turkish barbers.
6-0 Villa.
FTF!!!
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Do I not like that line up
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It's not that peculiar a line up. Carlos/Torres happens regularly, Maatsen is getting a start and Watkins is having a rest.
Let's rip them a new one.
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Suprised kamara never got a yellow for that
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Ref had the card out then put it away
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Should have been a card, he handled and delayed the restart.
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Defence is all over the place again
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Bailey just fell over
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Rogers close with deflection!
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Do I not like that line up
Do you like anything?
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Stay safe all those travelling
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Chance for them. Giving the ball away at the back unusually.
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We are a mess at the back. Just a mess
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Ffs youri shocking passing
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Keystone cops defending
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Citeh losing 😗
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Does anyone have a trickle for UK watching please?
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It does seem odd changing the entire back four.
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Shite so far. Again.
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"Villa fans are the most difficult to play in front of. They might get on their backs" - Martin Keown.
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The defence looks like a line of frightened rabbits in headlights
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Need to realise that the ref's letting play flow.
Going down when challenged isn't going to draw a foul.
Our midfielders need to be strong on the ball and to not cough up possession
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Bailey just fell over
Is it windy though?
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So far it looks like Emery has got this badly wrong
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The weather does look utterly brutal there.
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Bailey just fell over
Is it windy though?
He’s from the Windward Islands.
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Need to realise that the ref's letting play flow.
Going down when challenged isn't going to draw a foul.
Our midfielders need to be strong on the ball and to not cough up possession
Plus it's a shit way to play and goes against the traditions of the club
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So far it looks like Emery has got this badly wrong
What’s he got badly wrong?
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Bailey just fell over
Is it windy though?
He’s from the Windward Islands.
👏
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Never mind who's supposed to be challenging at which end of the table - who's the home team? Maybe it's the weather?
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Close again. Southampton trying to emulate our defence
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No way this staying 0-0. Southampton are every bit a disaster at the back. We should be leading.
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Get in !
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Gooooaaaallllllllll
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Late to the party - any babbling brooks available please
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Why do we never pubish them ffs
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PAAANNNDDDAAAAA
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Duran. Get in.
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Lovely finish big Jhon
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LETS GOOOO
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Duran goal.
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Fuck yeah! Duran unstoppable there.
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Get in!
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Yesssssssss juranamooooo!
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When Duran is on the pitch it’s never an ordinary world.
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bloody love that man
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Get in
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That’s great strength by him to see off the defender and finish
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Brilliant Duran, simply brilliant
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Great finish
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JHONNNN!!!!!!
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JD get in
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Fucking brillinat play by duran. Superb it really was
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Lol well, they do give away some silly goals! Top stuff from Duran though, ruthless.
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https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1865417336645189846
Wind made Konsa's Carlo's pass fade? Or did he mean to play it like that?
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YESSSSSSS!
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Superb goal, completely bossed both centre backs and then a top finish.
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Showed great strength
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Does anyone have the goal they can show?
Thanks
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Watkins would have missed that BTW.
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Does anyone have the goal they can show?
Thanks
It’s on the link above.
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Lovely finish, terrible defending.
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Does anyone have the goal they can show?
Thanks
https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1865417336645189846
Wind made Konsa's Carlo's pass fade? Or did he mean to play it like that?
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Watkins would have missed that BTW.
Don’t think he would.
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https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1865417336645189846
Wind made Konsa's Carlo's pass fade? Or did he mean to play it like that?
Thank you. Great goal
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Up to fifth in the live table, one point behind Man City.
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Watkins would have missed that BTW.
Don’t think he would.
I don't think he'd have won the challenge in the first place - he'd have been on the floor looking for a foul
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Watkins would have missed that BTW.
Don’t think he would.
I don't think he'd have won the challenge in the first place - he'd have been on the floor looking for a foul
Yes, he would have scored in similar but I also agree with the last point he probably wouldn't have won the ball or bounced Wood off him.
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You can't dodge The Rodge!
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Rogers does really well.
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Bailey likes to do that, sort of announce the foul and give up on battles.
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Up to fifth in the live table, one point behind Man City.
Three points off second. I saw people giving up on Europe last week.
Pathetic!
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Duran played like a centre forward on Wednesday and is doing it again today. If he has that down he's the best striker at the club and will be one of the best in the world.
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Big Jhon 8)
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Maatsen playing well.
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Am following updates from VP on teletext from the utterly unamusingly named Nick Mashiter
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What on earth are our defence up to???
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Defensive horror show. If this was a better side we would be losing this
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:'(youris passing has been atrocious today. A lot of mis placed passes. Its similar to barkley mid week
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Tielemans very sloppy today.
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Incredibly sloppy this ,
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come on villa pass to your own player
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rubbish ball Leon
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rubbish ball Leon
Rubbish pass to him from Kamara too to be fair.
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Tim Sherwood says Youri has tailed off.
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Need a second goal, otherwise this could be another Bournemouth
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Wasting some big opportunities to put this to bed
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Our defence do seem to want to pass it a bit quicker today. Usually we stand on the ball a lot more.
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rubbish ball Leon
Rubbish pass to him from Kamara too to be fair.
that too , should have gone left to be fair but overhit.
just that one soton player in box and duran unmarked and he gets the soton player
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I'm feeling pretty forgiving today. I've played on a day like this before. It ain't nice and I was shit too. Just win.
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Tielemans and Carlos especially sloppy. Which isn't exactly ideal.
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The weather is the big winner here so far, no real surprise that players and misplacing passes and losing the flight of the ball at times.
We're ahead because we've played the conditions a lot better than they have.
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Can’t be easy with the conditions but we should be much better than we have been. We are playing down to their level which isn’t a good level.
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Some absolutely shocking passing today
The weather doesnt help but its been seriously bad
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Both sides very sloppy, we should be winning this 4-2.
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Messy but ahead. Need to look after the ball much better
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One moment of brilliance, the rest has been garbage. Back to snails pace shite.
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Archer was still down on the pitch at half time.
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Good news is after 15 games should it stay this way, we are two points behind Man City.
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Ahead, but need to be much sharper in the second half.
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Perhaps not at our sharpest, but sod, it Villa are winning.
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On the river I'm watching it showed on a replay it was an innocuous challenge on Archer and he got up after a few minutes so seems OK
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Not exactly scintillating.
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Let's be honest with the conditions no one really wants to be out there.
It's like watching a home game from 2014 with the large gaps in the lower tiers, can't remember the last time I saw us play in the league with so many empty seats in the lower Holte.
Can't blame people who've given today a miss and the atmosphere is very muted as a result.
This is a textbook just win the game ugly and move on scenario.
We would also be 5th to add some important context.
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I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt with the atrocious weather playing a key role in not connecting passes. Another quick goal and we should win comfortably.
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As a reminder, MCY only won 1-0 at home to SOU. Let's not assume it should be easy. That doesn't compensate for playing poorly I know.
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Not exactly scintillating.
Relative to what Wolves fans have been experiencing we are Real Madrid. There is no real point to this post other than to laugh at Wolves.
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Messy but ahead. Need to look after the ball much better
They are awful, but this hasn't felt as comfortable as it should have so far. Mainly due to the fact that we've given the ball away far too often.
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I'm more concerned about the 4th fucking fence panel that has just gone down in my garden. I can see the pound coins tumbling down.
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You'd think the way Southampton like to play short passes the wind would affect them less. I'm not sure that's the case. We haven't been great but seem to cope with the conditions a bit better
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As a reminder, MCY only won 1-0 at home to SOU. Let's not assume it should be easy. That doesn't compensate for playing poorly I know.
They out played Liverpool too but gifted them 3 goals.
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Should have 3 or 4 goals. Wasteful again. They will score 1 at some point so we’ll need another to be sure I reckon.
Bailey. Like playing with 10 men.
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As a reminder, MCY only won 1-0 at home to SOU. Let's not assume it should be easy. That doesn't compensate for playing poorly I know.
Southampton are that typical bottom 3 side but don't get many points but they've had plenty of close games with some of the top teams. They were leading at Arsenal and home to Liverpool after an hour so bit like we were in 19/20 when we let so many points slip through our fingers against top 6 home and away.
Can remember us leading 2-1 away to Arsenal with half an hour left, they had someone sent off and we still lost it in the last minute.
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Is the wind blowing towards the Holte? If so, I expect to see a Duran thunderblast from the half-way line.
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When we attack down the left, Bailey needs to concentrate on getting in at the back post. Easy goals to be had, ask Brennan Johnson of Spurs.
We need to step it up in the second half.
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Should have 3 or 4 goals. Wasteful again. They will score 1 at some point so we’ll need another to be sure I reckon.
Bailey. Like playing with 10 men.
The big one we left out there was the ball Rogers squared about a yard out and no one got a touch on it.
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Should have 3 or 4 goals. Wasteful again. They will score 1 at some point so we’ll need another to be sure I reckon.
Bailey. Like playing with 10 men.
I think Bailey's been o.k personally. Considering his level a few weeks back he is at least involved more now and you feel something might happen.
With that breakaway just before half time it really wasn't a great pass to him from Kamara.
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You can hear the saints fans boo when they start messing around at the back . We need to press them more as they have mistakes in them .
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Any subs on?
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As a reminder, MCY only won 1-0 at home to SOU. Let's not assume it should be easy. That doesn't compensate for playing poorly I know.
The 115 aren't much of a benchmark this season
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Need another couple to feel comfortable. I feel like it is written in the stars that Cam will score against us, so need a margin.
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Bree sacrificed and they've put on another CM so need to watch that as Aribo can score.
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Bree sacrificed and they've put on another CM so need to watch that as Aribo can score.
I had no idea he'd ended up there. Never did see him as prem standard. Didn't see anything to change my mind I'm afraid.
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FFS stop giving it away
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Rogers reminds me of Mark Draper with his hair. Need one of those epic flicked up freekicks from him to cement it.
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Southampton are rubbish. One more goal should finish this.
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We definitely need one remember our defence.
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We are letting them into this
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They are growing into this. We need to just get the ball and keep it for a bit.
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Southampton bringing David Armstrong and Kevin Keegan on.
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come on villa geta hold of the ball
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No control in midfield at all here.
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We’re going to concede if we don’t sort this out.
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Bailey looks fucked
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bailey done
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That’s Bailey’s hamstring.
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Bailey made of glass
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Ollie, Digne and Philogene all coming on
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Looks like his hamstring
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Fcuk sake.
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typical get a good break , rogers unmarked through the middle and bailey gets a hamstring
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Will anyone know that Bailey's gone off?
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Bloody hell 4 changes. Barkley also on
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4 on
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Will anyone know that Bailey's gone off?
Not really
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Palace 2-1 now !
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Not playing well, needs the changes.
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Emery gambling on keeping it 1.0 for 35 mins.
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Maarten, Bailey, Duran, Youri off
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I love Emery for this sort of thing. Willing to make a change.
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Be better please Barkley
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4 on
3. Philogene doesn't count. (joking)
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Be better please Barkley
I wouldn’t bank on it.
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Duran maturing in front of our eyes. Took the sub well. Good lad.
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4 on
3. Philogene doesn't count. (joking)
bailey dont count then :)
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Duran maturing in front of our eyes. Took the sub well. Good lad.
Well the lad is from Colombia. He’s bollocks are frozen. He now gets a coat a warm seat. Win for him on a day like this.
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Dibling sounds like he should be one of the Trumpton firemen.
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Philogene losing it in a key moment very poor
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We need a 2nd
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Last minute equaliser?
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joanna was crap then
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Philogene losing it in a key moment very poor
Don’t you ever post anything positive? It gets fucking boring.
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Substitutions have freshened things up
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Their keeper looks like someone who should be hosting Blue Peter or presenter on a gardening show rather than a professional footballer.
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thought we was fucked then
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Fuck I have no trust in us at all keeping this clean sheet.
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joanna was crap then
Who?
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Far too open. We need to finish this.
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Nearly another own-conerlty
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very chris waddle that dibling
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Dibling looks a quality player.
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Dibling looks a quality player.
Dribbling with quality.
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bit of jaden magic and then a shit cross
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Awful cross by Philogene. He looked up and still it was terrible.
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Philogene is every bit a good Championship level player that just doesn’t have enough to make it as a PL player. Not sure it’s confidence or simply ability but he doesn’t have it.
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Dibling reminds me of a young Grealish when he broke in to the first team.
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Rogers and Watkins looking ever likely to score, going for Ollie for the second
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If we could cross a ball we'd be half dangerous.
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Philogene is every bit a good Championship level player that just doesn’t have enough to make it as a PL player. Not sure it’s confidence or simply ability but he doesn’t have it.
Exactly that.
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rogers well done
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Sorry, but Philogene is so bad.
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rogers should have put a forward ball in then
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Philogene is every bit a good Championship level player that just doesn’t have enough to make it as a PL player. Not sure it’s confidence or simply ability but he doesn’t have it.
Exactly that.
File with Cameron Archer. Cam is better but not by a lot.
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Sorry, but Philogene is so bad.
Well, we're going to need him to get better fast, because with Bailey fucked we've got nobody else to play there.
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We’re going to give this away.
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That was inches away from an OG from Diego
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playing like we are in the League cup
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This is far too open.
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We’ve seen this before…this is heading for 1-1 if we carry on like this.
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Is JP hungover..?
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Fuck sake. This is so very shit. We are playing like a mid table side. None of the flair and confidence of last season.
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Our midfield is just non-existent
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Is JP hungover..?
He might be back on the bench soon if he keeps this up. I’d rather see Emi on.
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Back to nervous last quarter of an hour days.
Come on Villa a second goal would finish this match.
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We are really poor today. One of those games where we concede the equalizer in the last seconds.
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Our set pieces have fallen off a cliff.
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Philogene is every bit a good Championship level player that just doesn’t have enough to make it as a PL player. Not sure it’s confidence or simply ability but he doesn’t have it.
Agree
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It would really help if we could pass to each other and stop making bad decisions/needless fouls when we’re in good positions.
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Philogene is every bit a good Championship level player that just doesn’t have enough to make it as a PL player. Not sure it’s confidence or simply ability but he doesn’t have it.
Agree
Just not at the PL level yet. With Bailey out of form might need the wallet opened for this position.
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Just blow up ref ffs
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I don’t think the conditions are helping, but this has all the hallmarks of an instant non-classic.
Lots of poor passing, poor control, poor decision making. It’s not exactly the swashbuckling open style we can achieve. It’s a grind.
And I think we’ll regret not scoring a 2nd too…
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To much huff and puff from Villa
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Le Tissier coming on.
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rogers having a mare a little now
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These lazy, misplaced passes are infuriating.
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Le Tissier coming on.
I'd be bricking it if he was.
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Ollie being Ollie.
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Our passing is so bloody imprecise.
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head it ollie
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We look so edgy.
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duran scores that
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It’s a good job Southampton are even more shit than we are today.
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Really need the second
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Fucking hell Ollie, dreadful.
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Philogene is actually rubbish.
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That was shite Watkins.
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Philogene is actually rubbish.
Completely terrible.
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Philogene is actually rubbish.
This, all day long. Waste of a shirt.
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Philogene looked incredible for Hull, he must have something about him. How much of this is confidence?
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Philogene looked incredible for Hull, he must have something about him. How much of this is confidence?
Did he or are we going by that one goal he scored? Genuine question as I have no idea.
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Fuck me. How utter shit are we? We have to score there.
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that is shite Villa
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It’s the return of the inevitable and unenviable Villa related sphincter puckering.
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Ollie, COME ON
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Major problem this for Villa, making crazy hard work of this, should be dead and buried and us thinking about the CL next.
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Philogene is actually rubbish.
This, all day long. Waste of a shirt.
I'd literally rather have El Ghazi back. He can take the penalties, too.
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That was trying walk the ball into the goal. Shocking
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How's Barkley miss that?
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Shocking play that shoild be game over
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Philogene looked incredible for Hull, he must have something about him. How much of this is confidence?
Did he or are we going by that one goal he scored? Genuine question as I have no idea.
No it's a fair point! It was a cracking goal.
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Watkins might score the odd goal but I’m not convinced he actually gets football. What the fucking hell was that?
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Just bleeding shoot!!!
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How's Barkley miss that?
Because it was played to him three touches too late.
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Why did we take Duran off?
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Watkins might score the odd goal but I’m not convinced he actually gets football. What the fucking hell was that?
He reminds me of Vassell football brain lacking.
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Watkins needs to go away and have a serious chat with himself. When Duran takes his place, he can look back on this game to see why.
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Watkins might score the odd goal but I’m not convinced he actually gets football. What the fucking hell was that?
He reminds me of Vassell football brain lacking.
I was thinking the same thing. Moore too.
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Philogene is actually rubbish.
This, all day long. Waste of a shirt.
I'd literally rather have El Ghazi back. He can take the penalties, too.
Tony Daley would be better
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What is Watkins doing
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Another wasted opportunity
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watkins tat is sooo poor
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They are going to score here aren’t they?
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Refs not booking our players. Makes a change.
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and then they nearly score
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Watkins, fuck me, first touch like a trampoline
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TERRIBLE first touch by Watkins.
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK. Fuck sake Ollie. Square the ball you greedy twat.
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Watkins. Lost the plot.
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Ollie, my god. How many?!
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WATKKIINS FFS
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iM sorry but ollie that is rubbish play mcginn
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Watkins has turned into Ricky Otto
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Tim Sherwood has just said he’s been very poor.
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Watkins that was utterly pathetic from him
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WTF was that FFS?!
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6 mins added.
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I like Ollie but bloody hell.
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This is 0/10 from Watkins, absolutely fucking shit.
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6 mins added.
5
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Ref needs to blow the whistle so we can end this.
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I strongly suspect Duran scores that.
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Brentford beat Newcastle. Citeh equalised but have 10 men.
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Ollie, my god. How many?!
Every fucking time.
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I strongly suspect Duran scores that.
would have had a hat trick!
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Not watching, but incredibly surprised by these Watkins comments.
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Watkins clearly is not a bad player, but he is looking terrible right now.
And there is no doubt that I prefer Duran at present.
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Watkins even managed to serve up a hospital pass for Rogers too. Div.
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Ollies been abysmal he really has today
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wtf
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Stupid yellow card, over nothing, self inflicted
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I don’t ever recall a game where we had this many clear cut chances and couldn’t score. Absolutely embarrassing.
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Has Watkins had another kid or something?
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bournemth here
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Keeper going up for the free kick. You know the rest.
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OMFG!!! WTAF?!
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All over. Thanks be to God.
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Thank god for that
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I don’t ever recall a game where we had this many clear cut chances and couldn’t score. Absolutely embarrassing.
Bournemouth was very similar.
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FT.
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Game over. Thank fuck
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Jesus fucking Christ we're terrible in the final third today.
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Thank fcuk for that.
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we win that 5 0 with duran on
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Thank fuck for that. What a crock of shit that was.
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3 pts. Sin é.
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Watkins - absolute muppet. Philogene - should not be in the squad. Everyone else passable given the conditions.
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Have to think Duran would have put away one of the opportunities that Watkins had this afternoon.
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Clean sheet! We got a clean sheet!
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We could have been out there for nother 20 minutes nd not scored again. WTF is up with Watkins' decision making? Positively Raheem Sterlirngesque.
Never going to complain about 3 points. Bank them, let's move on.
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Should have scored from one of those opportunities when a pass does it rather than a shot. But a wins a win.
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How many chances did Watkins stuff up. Lucky to get the points we were so wasteful.
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3pts, that's the best you can say about that