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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on November 06, 2024, 04:35:29 PM
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Good to see changes after that disastrous result. Strong bench which helps
Kamara and mongs starting is great news
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Interesting but needed to make some changes after Sunday.
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Got to love Mings and Kamara on the pitch.
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Got to love Mings and Kamara on the pitch.
Yup.
Also nice to see Mings deservedly adding Champions League football to his CV.
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Torres dropped after Sundays omnishambles
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I wonder where John is playing? Left side is the only option unless Rogers is playing there and we are going five in mid.
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Delighted for Tyrone to make his first CL appearance.
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Don’t understand Bailey starting again.
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I do like that Unai is keeping faith with Bailey- I hope he repays that faith tonight with a MOTM performance, its long overdue.
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Got to love Mings and Kamara on the pitch.
Yup.
Also nice to see Mings deservedly adding Champions League football to his CV.
Also nice to see people spell Mings correctly, or at least not bad enough to induce a cringe.
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Mings completes his Championship to Champions league journey with us. Eight out of the eleven were available for Gerrard, remarkable when you think about it.
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Formation likely to be....
Martinez
Konsa Carlos Mings Maatsen
Kamara Tielemans
Bailey McGinn
Rogers
Watkins
I see McGinn tucking ina little on the left. Maatsen to come flying past......
Konsa providing solidity behind Bailey.
I like it.
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That's a decent team although would of preferred Ramsay to McGinn who I feel is not justified to keep his place.
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I wonder where John is playing? Left side is the only option unless Rogers is playing there and we are going five in mid.
He started the season on the left.
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Maybe Tielmans further forward with Kamara and McGinn holding
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Win please.
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Torres can't have any complaints after Sunday, but the fact that Carlos got on as sub rather than Mings on Sunday, and that Mings starts tonight, would suggest that Emery doesn't plan to have Mings and Torres playing together any time soon.
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That defence is giving me the yips, but I guess after Cash getting injured again and Torres having such an uncharacteristic mare last time out we cannot be surprised. Although I'm slightly surprised to see Maatsen in ahead of Digne
My god we need another, senior proven, right back option. Ned and Lamarde are still green and it isn't Konsa's natural position.
Even if we have to sell first
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I do like that Unai is keeping faith with Bailey- I hope he repays that faith tonight with a MOTM performance, its long overdue.
Blimey, big faith in Bailey, mate. I hope he repays the faith but I'm not going to bet on it!
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I love Mings I really do, along with McGinn, in my list of all time Villa heroes. But that defence makes me nervous tonight.
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Would not have dropped Digne, that seems a bit risky
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well I thought Onana and JJ was our better players against SPurzzzz and SJM was very poor so suprised not one playing at least . Bailey is very lucky to be starting but seeing Ty and KAmara is great too see , thought they was our best two players against Palace.
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I do like that Unai is keeping faith with Bailey- I hope he repays that faith tonight with a MOTM performance, its long overdue.
Completely agree
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What TV channel is this on? Edit, it's TNT 2
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The only two names I recognise from their line up is Mignolet, who played in goal for Liverpool for several seasons last decade, and Tzolis, who was at Norwich for a while
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Kamara and mongs starting is great news
Mate, I love you to bits obvs, but could you not do just a quick once over of your replies before hitting 'post'?!
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What TV channel is this on? Edit, it's TNT 2
Ahhhlanuttun! on the panel
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I do like that Unai is keeping faith with Bailey- I hope he repays that faith tonight with a MOTM performance, its long overdue.
I don't. He's been shite all season, and doesn't appear to be getting anywhere close to his best. How many more games do we have to play with the equivalent of ten men?
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I do like that Unai is keeping faith with Bailey- I hope he repays that faith tonight with a MOTM performance, its long overdue.
I don't. He's been shite all season, and doesn't appear to be getting anywhere close to his best. How many more games do we have to play with the equivalent of ten men?
It's getting to last seasons "Diaby's going to have a great game soon" territory for me. He is a confidence player, and needs something to come off: a long shot that goes in rather than into orbit, a dribble and assist - anything to remind him that he can be a top player.
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Got to love Mings and Kamara on the pitch.
100% mate.
Buendia not getting a start though. Dont think emerys been impressed on what he has seen so far
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Great to see Tír Eoghain starting alongside Carlos.
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I do like that Unai is keeping faith with Bailey- I hope he repays that faith tonight with a MOTM performance, its long overdue.
I don't. He's been shite all season, and doesn't appear to be getting anywhere close to his best. How many more games do we have to play with the equivalent of ten men?
We need to play him into form, otherwise when will we ever see him show what he can do? Brugge is the easiest opposition on paper we have til we're drawn against Blackburn in the FA Cup in Jan.
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It's that young fella from TNT who takes three minutes to ask a question, right?
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Maybe no one is actually dropped more SUE picking a team to combat & win tonight
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We really need to persist with Bailey because if he doesn't find some form I don't think we will achieve much this season. Buendia/Philogene on the right side looks pretty mid table to me.
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Pleased to see Tyrone and Kamara starting, hopefully SJM and Leon find their best form, going 2-1 Villa.
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Good to see Tyrone and Kamara start and I'm happy with Bailey starting. If he plays himself into form, that can only be good thing.
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Please turn up lads!
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We really need to persist with Bailey because if he doesn't find some form I don't think we will achieve much this season. Buendia/Philogene on the right side looks pretty mid table to me.
Agree 100% with that
Stadium looks pretty empty
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I do like that Unai is keeping faith with Bailey- I hope he repays that faith tonight with a MOTM performance, its long overdue.
Yeah we need him to find form badly. Emery giving him every chance. Like the selection, great to see Mings and Kamara starting.
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you can smoke in the ground ?
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So before the Bologna game, Matty cash did the press conference and didn't start. Yesterday, Onana does the press duty and doesn't start.
If I'm a player, I'm staying well away from the press conferences.
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you can smoke in the ground ?
God she looked rough
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I am pleased that he has dropped a few. They need to know we have a strong squad and performances like Sunday will not be tolerated.
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No Barkley on the bench. Injured?
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I'd forgotten just what a unit Mings is!
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No Barkley on the bench. Injured?
Yep.
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Come on Villa!!!
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Come on you lions !!
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White just so suits us in Europe.
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Patient play so far
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Patient posting so far.
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Fun fact.
Last time Mignolet was in goal against us
Villa 0 Liverpool 6
We're a slightly different side now.
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White just so suits us in Europe.
just need vertical claret lines on the shirt
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Ollie needed a bit if support there
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Patient posting so far.
Too many Belgian beers? I guess people are only just getting back from work now.
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good pass by bailey tho
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Ollie needed a bit if support there
he needed a shot of confidence!
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Ollie needed a bit if support there
Thought he could have done better tbh
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Ollie needed a bit if support there
Thought he could have done better tbh
Never looked confident
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Commentators talking about the language spoken in Bruges.
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youri does a tonev
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Maatsen has a swagger about him that I really like (despite his piss-poor performance versus Palace).
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Need Bailey & McGinn to up their game
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youri does a tonev
I wondered what Tonev was up to nowadays. Apparently it’s a construction business…
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Good move villa corner
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No idea what that was for.
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Maatsen has a swagger about him that I really like (despite his piss-poor performance versus Palace).
Yep, he's a player.
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Wtf was that freekick for brugges?
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what happened then? offside
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Needless from Carlos,
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Anybody got a reliable trickle?
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How is he offside there?
Sloppy by carlos there
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It's all a bit flat narrow and congested
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I blame Trump.
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least the ref wont let them get away with fouling
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I blame Trump.
I just Trumped. Blame it on the Baked Beans from lunch.
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Their centre half (ordonyez?) looks a good player could be well worth a look.
We've been ok but not really created anything yet.
Tielemans has been targeted a bit and has had the pressure get to him a couple of times.
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We're playing very conservatively.A bit laboured too. Not too liberal in our passing.
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come on ollie
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I blame Trump.
I just Trumped. Blame it on the Baked Beans from lunch.
😂😂😂😂
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Ollie man come on ffs
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Watkins close.
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That's unlucky, really smart from Ollie.
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Unlucky ollie! Good effort
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We're playing very conservatively.A bit laboured too. Not too liberal in our passing.
The green shoots will appear...turn into blossom and then fruit.
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Better from Ollie.
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We're playing very conservatively.A bit laboured too. Not too liberal in our passing.
Think these tactics need a reform
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Should be winning by now.
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sitter mcginn
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McGinn close. Should have done better
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Great ball by Kamara
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FFS McGinn
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What the fucking hell was that McGinn. Head like a 50p.
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Carlos and Mings booked
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what a ball by kamara
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Gotta hit the target there, great chance.
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Ffs mcginn you got to do bettee there
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We're playing very conservatively.A bit laboured too. Not too liberal in our passing.
Think these tactics need a reform
We need to go faraging for the ball a bit more.
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That is beyond idiotic from Carlos
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Carlos ffs stupidity or what
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Stupid yellow Carlos.
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Tyrone with a face reducer. You don't get then from Pau the Placid.
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What could Carlos possibly have said to warrant a card.. bizarre, entitled ref reaction.
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How is that a yellow card for Mings?
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Carlos FFs stupid booking
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Might need to get ned on HT and move konsa to cb with mings. Big risk having both ypur cbs on yellows and arlos looks like a red waiting to happen today
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Silly from Carlos, harsh yellow for Mings.
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Wake me up if anything happens!!
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What could Carlos possibly have said to warrant a card.. bizarre, entitled ref reaction.
Why giive the ref an option?
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Emery fuming at Carlos I think his days are numbered.
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Fucking hell they hit the post and then a save
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Off the post. We're a bit lucky here.
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post brugge
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save emi
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Ffs villa wake up
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A bit sleepy there. We seem very relaxed in this game…
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Brugge looking far too comfortable for my liking. We need to get a grip. Shit they hit he post.
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Too sluggish
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Darren Bent says Emi got a fingertip to guide shot 1 to the post, as well as saving the second shot.
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We seem to have turned up thinking it's a formality. and Brugge have realised we aren't exactly firing on all cylinders.
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Too sluggish
They’ll be getting pellets if they lose here.
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Very unusually, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Sky studio watching this game on a monitor and commenting. Poor from Sky.
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Making life difficult for ourselves, missing decent chances and getting on the wrong side of what looks like an iffy ref..Brugge look there for the taking though
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Did emi save that shot onto the post ?
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Fuck me, you'd think we were 3 nil up the way we're playing.
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Did emi save that shot onto the post ?
Looked like it to me
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Too sluggish
They’ll be getting pellets if they lose here.
Bailey has feet of clay atm
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I was ok with this sluggish playing style when we were getting results, but the last three matches have been garbage and it doesn't seem like we've learned any lessons.
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We look on our arse with absolutely zero ideas at the moment
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Very unusually, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Sky studio watching this game on a monitor and commenting. Poor from Sky.
They're probably interviewing the new manure manager about what he's going to put in his lunchbox.
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Another let off. Sort it the fuck out ffs
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This reminds me of the mostar away game
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ffs villa wake up
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We need to sort this out
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Far too slow and as such it's absolutely shite.
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I'm not against those corners to the edge of the box, but McGinn seemed to take several decades to put the ball in, which isn't ideal.
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Great defending from Mings there.
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We should bw at least 2 down. This is simply poor.
Living life dangerously
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We’ve been worked out attack the press we shit ourselves.
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Very unusually, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Sky studio watching this game on a monitor and commenting. Poor from Sky.
Why would they? It's only Villa.
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Christ, where would we be without Martinez.
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cant keep the ball , just giving it away
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very sloppy again, mistakes creeping in
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A group of 66 year-old men playing walking football could move the ball quicker than this!
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All gone wrong since the dubious booking for Mings' booking.
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We look awful , really poor and low on confidence and ideas . A goal is coming
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Like we are saving ourselves for Saturday?
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Second best when we should be the much better side.
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When did we start taking so many shots from outside the box? We didn't do that last season.
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At half time Unai is going to go all Mike Bassett. 0/0 with the ****in Belgians.
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A group of 66 year-old men playing walking football could move the ball quicker than this!
I remember when we could afford 66 year old men playing walking football. BLOODY FFP! 😡
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Zero movement off the ball isn't helping
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I had hoped tonight that we’d look better than this.
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Snails move quicker
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Maatsen appears to have caught cash disease.
Turn inside and pass it back.
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Is the game plan to bore them to death
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Snails move quicker
If this was Gerrard he would be getting pellets for this.
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Wish Maatsen wouldn't pass back so much
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no creativity
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Get Ten Hag in.
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Everyone waiting for Rogers to 1 man army it is really pissing me off. January we have to spend
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Snails move quicker
If this was Gerrard he would be getting pellets for this.
if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bicycle
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Tielemans wearing boots made from toblerone tonight.
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Looks like they are man marking across the midfield. #30 hasn't left McGinn's hip for 20 minutes no matter where he goes.
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There is still a couple of pieces missing isn’t there…
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wtf was that carlos
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Jesus h Carlos
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I think we've done the right thing here, they started to get a bit of control in midfield so we turned it into a bit of keep ball for a few minutes to settle the game again.
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Ffs carlos
What the hell was that
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What’s he done shot Harris?
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Carlos WTF??
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youri has been poor
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Snails move quicker
If this was Gerrard he would be getting pellets for this.
The eco friendly alternative to fossil fuels.
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Only positive is that we still somehow have the 0-0 we're playing like we came for.
I have a feeling Unai will be going full John Sitton at HT.
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Cheap passing 🤦♂️
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Has Bailey had a heavy lunch?
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youri has been poor
Id say poorest game of the season so far
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I am sensing a Villa goal before half-time.
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Only positive is that we still somehow have the 0-0 we're playing like we came for.
I have a feeling Unai will be going full John Sitton at HT.
John would of brought his dinner.
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This our bad half?
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I am sensing a Villa goal before half-time.
FFS. Is just one superpower too much to ask for?
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Thank fuck, somehow 0-0 and a break from that shitfest.
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loked a chance for mings there
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I'd hoped for a bigger reaction to the weekends result tbh. Dull as fuck. We're so slow.
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Bruges are playing narrow and have a man over in midfield alot of the time
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watkins and bailey not done enough
gave too many balls away
I think Kamara has played well .
too slow for me
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Slow, ponderous, pedestrian. Nowhere near good enough.
I bet we concede early in the second half.
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Bailey a waste of a shirt at the moment
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We have been poor for weeks now, we have all our players back so what's the problem?
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Sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards....... REPEAT!
Does anyone remember when Bailey used to take on his man and either beat him or get fouled? Useless fucker.
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Commentators talking about the language spoken in Bruges.
Nowt wrong with that, cultural learning should be encouraged.
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I'd hoped for a bigger reaction to the weekends result tbh. Dull as fuck. We're so slow.
We've been pedestrian in our play for much of the season. I get that Emery wants a possession based approach but the sheer slowness of our play means that opposition defences are always set.
Very poor stuff from us.
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Middle of the park is an issue for me. McGinn hardly in it and youri having another off day.
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need JJ on
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Get everyone fit and we've gone to shit..why do we do this when we can go top of the table?
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Saw Konsa and Mings telling others to slow the tempo down.i never understand this as we always seem to be at our best when we move the ball around quickly.
Bailey still seems injured to me. The acceleration just isn’t there.
Maatsen wasted as we aren’t attacking.
Defending on our 18 yard line again. The high line seems a distant memory.
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I'd hoped for a bigger reaction to the weekends result tbh. Dull as fuck. We're so slow.
We've been pedestrian in our play for much of the season. I get that Emery wants a possession based approach but the sheer slowness of our play means that opposition defences are always set.
Very poor stuff from us.
Even on the occasions we have a chance to break, we too quickly turn back and slow up.
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We seem to be in a bit of a slump at the moment. Playing quite poorly for a while.
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Snails move quicker
If this was Gerrard he would be getting pellets for this.
You keep going on about pellets
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Slow, ponderous, two centre halves booked could mean an early change there.
Midfield non effective.
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Far too slow of thought & movement. Absolutely no support for Watkins.
Maybe that's the plan for the first half & we open them up in the second half. Torres, Onana & Ramsey to introduce some tempo & movement
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Anyone know why they're booing Tielemans? is it because he played for Anderlecht? No idea if they're big rivals or not.
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3 pretty different starting 11s in a week, and all 3 have looked shit.
Need to see a much better 2nd half.
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Mcginn has to score that . head it on target and its a goal . very poor finish.
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Anyone know why they're booing Tielemans? is it because he played for Anderlecht? No idea if they're big rivals or not.
Yes, of course.
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I think we havent played great at all this season - have in patches but seem to have not found our mojo. The Bologna game was the only when where I thought we were really good.
There have been good results, and good periods of the game.
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We need to start playing sometime tonight. So far it’s like we are just doing the minimum to get a 0-0 in this game.
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Carlos is extremely slow on the ball, so slow he always looks like he’s about to get caught or give it away. Painful to watch.
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I do think we’re going to come out faster in the 2nd half -I can’t see us being any slower. But the first half might be about letting them use their energy and then we hit them early in the 2nd.
It’s wishful thinking… but I can’t see how it could be any worse!
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Maatsen appears to have caught cash disease.
Turn inside and pass it back.
instructions?
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Playing Bailey is like playing with 10 men
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We have totally lost our cutting edge, our ball movement is pedestrian our movement off the ball is lacking. We have gone backwards, the puzzle is why.
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Did ok first 20 minutes or so playing through the midfield but no end result. Then letting them in and we dont look solid defensively.
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Snails move quicker
If this was Gerrard he would be getting pellets for this.
You keep going on about pellets
Don't know about pellets but there would be pelters.
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youri has been poor
Id say poorest game of the season so far
They've targeted him in MF
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How is Mings playing?
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I do think we’re going to come out faster in the 2nd half -I can’t see us being any slower. But the first half might be about letting them use their energy and then we hit them early in the 2nd.
It’s wishful thinking… but I can’t see how it could be any worse!
I thought that Vs Spurs at the weekend.
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How is Mings playing?
Done well. Got a harsh yellow but done well as has kamara.
We been very flat as a team though
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How is Mings playing?
No worse than anyone else. Made an important clearance.
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How is Mings playing?
Like have being out for a while.
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Early subs are a must
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If I was there players i'd be running at Carlos and Mings as much as possible,
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Ollie not looking right, knows Duran will be on at 70 mins. A bit like when he was being rotated with Ings, he didn't seem happy at all. How Bailey is starting is a mystery to most of us?
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Playing Bailey is like playing with 10 men
not been too bad. Always looking for a scapegoat, Look at Mcginn, Carlos, Tielemans, Mattsen, all done less than Bailey tonight. Whole team lethargic bar Kamara. Far too slow and not enough movement to look for the ball. Need to press more.
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FFS Konsa
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Carlos is extremely slow on the ball, so slow he always looks like he’s about to get caught or give it away. Painful to watch.
Of Mings, Konsa and him he is the best passer of the ball upfield.
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Bailey isn’t the problem so far.
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Penalty to them
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Jesus fucking Christ
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wtf is going on
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hilarious
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Mings has a brain fart
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Oh my god. How has that been allowed to happen?
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1-0
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I mean…
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They're ahead.
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We really are shit at the moment
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What is wrong with us ?
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Wow just wow
Just pure stupidity
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Lucky he didn't get a second yellow then ffs
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Fucking he’ll Ming’s, you never ever touch the ball with your hands in the penalty area.
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Amateur hour from us. Fucking embarrassing.
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We have great options from the bench, but in recent games our use of subs has been nothing short of chaotic. That's something else that needs sorting.
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You absolute fucking clown Mings.
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too much fucking mesing around at the time
what a joke
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We seem to find a different way of giving away goals every week, we’re quite brilliant at it.
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That is fucking ridiculous. Simply.
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Going well again.
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Fucking joke.
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The world is fucked today isn’t it.
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That encapsulates our fucking half arsed approach to this game.
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WTAF? I don't believe it, what was Tyrone thinking?
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Fully deserved as we've been as shit and stupid as Trump.
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What an absolute shambles that was. Totally school boy stuff
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mings is thick as shit
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I love you tyrone but for fucks sack how stupid can you be?
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Making it hard for ourselves.
It’s been a horrible month with the standards that we have set ourselves. Simply not good enough.
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What a fucking ridiculous way to give away a penalty.
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I mean, it's not funny. But it is a bit funny.
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First ever Champions League game and he does that? Fuck me, stupid doesn’t even come close.
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And I’m sick of seeing McGinn give the ball away.
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mginn your bum turn aint working
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We’re just playing dreadfully.
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
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We’ve been obsessed with the slowing it down stuff and that’s the result!
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Amateur hour.
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We have been shit, and then Mings fucks it up. The mindset is not right.
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Lucky he didn't get a second yellow then ffs
Very true.
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We have been a joke since Bournemouth. Fucking wake up!!!
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Dear me
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Why the fuck did he have to pick it up? Just pass it back to Martinez.
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Jeeps - we really don't make things easy for ourselves
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If something like that had to happen, I'm glad it happened now with three wins in the bag and not in the knockouts when it could be all over for us.
Fucking shocking from Mings.
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And we do not look likely or capable of scoring either.
This is pathetic!
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So Mings been out for a while and have forgotten the rules? Anyhow something is not right for our team at the moment and then things easily will start to go against us.
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Should have been sent off really, a shambles to rival Enkleman there..ffs
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Mings Bailey and Kamara off now.
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Every club plays this short goalkick and it's irresponsible to penalise that.
And why was Mings not booked for handball?
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
Don’t talk fucking shit
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absoute terrible that for professional footballers
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Penalty correctly given. Don’t know what the commentators are saying it was wrong decision.
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I’m glad I got so bored with the first half I decided to watch 1952 David Lean film The Sound Barrier.
Not been drinking and boredom tempts me.
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We’re all over the bloody place.
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Why the fuck would you ever touch the ball like that in the area? Get him off, fucking idiot.
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The ref was dying to give something against us. For me it's a penalty, but one wasn't given against Arsenal earlier in the season in exactly the same circumstances.
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Get the fucking subs on ffs unai
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Having said that the ref could have used common sense and turned a blind eye!
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Well if your going to fuck it up you might as well do it well
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Its the sort of shambolic moment that a performance like this deserves
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Duran coming on. Please not them both
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ffs watkins is dire
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So many of our players are so far off the standards of the last couple of years. Tactically worked out? General lethargy?
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It's a blatant penalty, blaming the ref or thinking he should turn a blind eye is ridiculous.
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Austin…that wasn’t one of your best set piece moves mate.
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Mings should stop appear looking so self-confident and bossy and start concentrate on the work he is there to do. Throw away the bubblegum for a start.
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Great. Two teams time-wasting now.
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I said we'd concede early in this half but I didn't think it would be from such a bizarre incident.
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It's a blatant penalty, blaming the ref or thinking he should turn a blind eye is ridiculous.
Indeed
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Too slow, get f ing moving
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Mings to Duran : "You know that Ferrari you've had your eye on ...."
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Yay duran and ollie together worked so well on weekend
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A full squad, and we’ve been dire for weeks. What the fuck is going on?
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It’s the half arseness all over that is pissing me off
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ffs watkins is dire
no reason to keep him on the pitch.
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What a shambles this is
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
Don’t talk fucking shit
I've never rated Mings ever. It's no coincidence we started looking very good when he was nowhere near the team. Did I make you upset? Awwww
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Every club plays this short goalkick and it's irresponsible to penalise that.
And why was Mings not booked for handball?
Ref trying to make a name for himself...that's a nonsense decision
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We're doing a great job of making Bruges look like a top side
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kamara great . mings should have hit that in pen area
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Having said that the ref could have used common sense and turned a blind eye!
Except that refs have been looking to penalise that very thing for ages, esp v teams that are so obviously slowing down a game.
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Having said that the ref could have used common sense and turned a blind eye!
correct
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free kicks awful
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Bailey, dreadful
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What a fucking shit freekick leon
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
Don’t talk fucking shit
I've never rated Mings ever. It's no coincidence we started looking very good when he was nowhere near the team. Did I make you upset? Awwww
You're not making us upset, you're just talking shit.
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Have they been on the fucking piss or something? This is embarrassing.
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Absolute shambles
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Having said that the ref could have used common sense and turned a blind eye!
correct
Why give them the opportunity?
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So many players out of form. Saturday night is going to be a proper decoration job.
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We will not score with Bailey and Watkins on the pitch.
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Ollie appears to be playing with the world on his shoulders, again
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Having said that the ref could have used common sense and turned a blind eye!
correct
Incorrect stone wall pen mate. Stupid by mings
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Bailey 2.0 is fucking woeful
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Great free kick Bailey.
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As poor as we’ve played at anytime under Emery. We are struggling to put 2 passes together and reach the box with free kicks.
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We will not score with Bailey and Watkins on the pitch.
agreed
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
Don’t talk fucking shit
I've never rated Mings ever. It's no coincidence we started looking very good when he was nowhere near the team. Did I make you upset? Awwww
Oh god. You again. Like a black cloud hoving into view.
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This is the worst run of games since Emery arrived. We look lost.l after conceding that ridiculous goal.
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Having said that the ref could have used common sense and turned a blind eye!
Except that refs have been looking to penalise that very thing for ages, esp v teams that are so obviously slowing down a game.
I bet they wouldnt have chosen Liverpool or Man City to make the point though
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get JJ on ffs
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Liverpool are going to tear us a new one.
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Need an extra midfielder on; Bailey for Ramsey or Buendia
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Villa Tim should be happy - that fuck up should ensure we are first on MOTD later.
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We're losing deservedly, we conceded a penalty deservedly, we are not being hard done by, we've been shit and stupid.
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
Don’t talk fucking shit
I've never rated Mings ever. It's no coincidence we started looking very good when he was nowhere near the team. Did I make you upset? Awwww
We started looking very good pretty much as soon as Emery arrived, that's why we went from battling relegation to qualifying for Europe. With Mings in the side. Not sure why you're getting giddy with excitement about irritating another Villa fan.
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This is such a pathetic display so far
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Should have been sent off really, a shambles to rival Enkleman there..ffs
Get out.
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We're losing deservedly, we conceded a penalty deservedly, we are not being hard done by, we've been shit and stupid.
This
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It’s the half arseness all over that is pissing me off
Billy big bollocks, Villa that is
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we aint scoring from bailey tonight or assist
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
Don’t talk fucking shit
I've never rated Mings ever. It's no coincidence we started looking very good when he was nowhere near the team. Did I make you upset? Awwww
Oh god. You again. Like a black cloud hoving into view.
Indeed. Fuck knows what Bjork was thinking.
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We're losing deservedly, we conceded a penalty deservedly, we are not being hard done by, we've been shit and stupid.
This
That
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Pau on for Tyrone, JJ for Rogers.
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I think this could turn into the wheels falling off if we don't address it very soon.
Losing can become a habit as we know all too well
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The mental approach is all wrong. Like Bournemouth, Bruges were probably expecting an onslaught, but realised early on that we are ponderous in our approach. Lackadaisical turgid shite.
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There are some awful performances out there.
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Mings has always been a liability. Embarrassing!
Don’t talk fucking shit
I've never rated Mings ever. It's no coincidence we started looking very good when he was nowhere near the team. Did I make you upset? Awwww
Emery’s first season? He was playing every week.
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Pau on for Tyrone, JJ for Rogers.
How has Bailey stayed on?
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If the ball is in play and you pick it up in the penalty area guess what...it's a penalty everytime. With 2 CBs on a booking I'd have taken 1 of them off at half time. 25 mins to save ourselves, not looking likely
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Pau coming on for tyrone.
JJ for rogers
Thank god
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
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Bailey has those photos of Emery with some Jamaican ladies of the night from last summer.
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Get onana asap
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Why is Bailey still on?
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Bailey has those photos of Emery with some Jamaican ladies of the night from last summer.
Tell him to PM me.
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This is the kind of performance you need a bit of magic because as a team we're having an absolute stinker.
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Should have been sent off really, a shambles to rival Enkleman there..ffs
You do know that Enkleman didn't actually touch the ball, don't you?!
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The mental approach is all wrong. Like Bournemouth, Bruges were probably expecting an onslaught, but realised early on that we are ponderous in our approach. Lackadaisical turgid shite.
Completely agree.
When you play with so little intensity, you become sloppy in thought and action.
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We've become the team that believed it's own hype.
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McGinn and Mings been with us since the Championship. And tonight it showed
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
I hesitate to ask but - for those of us stuck on a train home from work - what DID he do?
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What a crap 24 hours this has been for the world.
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;)
McGinn and Mings been with us since the Championship. And tonight it showed
This
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This is the kind of performance you need a bit of magic because as a team we're having an absolute stinker.
Ahh the moments of magic approach returns
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Martinez had taken a short free kick and Mings picked up the ball to give away a penalty for reasons only known to him.
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Have we even tested their keeper?
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If the ball is in play and you pick it up in the penalty area guess what...it's a penalty everytime. With 2 CBs on a booking I'd have taken 1 of them off at half time. 25 mins to save ourselves, not looking likely
the ball wasn't in play, though ...
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
I hesitate to ask but - for those of us stuck on a train home from work - what DID he do?
Martinez took a quick goal kick to him. Mings didn't realise ball was in play, picked it up and rolled it back to Martinez. Referee gave penalty. One-nil to the Bruggers.
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Ollie been fucking terrible
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There’s half an hour left. Plenty of time for the 5 goal comeback!
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It feels like they're happy to stay on 9 points
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Tielemans has made all sorts of misplaced passes this game and it's been like a wet bar of soap with Watkins
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Have we even tested their keeper?
Yes during the half time quiz he was asked ‘what’s the daftest penalty you’ve ever seen given away?’ He got it wrong.
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Have we even tested their keeper?
Not had a shot this half...according to stats
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The mental approach is all wrong. Like Bournemouth, Bruges were probably expecting an onslaught, but realised early on that we are ponderous in our approach. Lackadaisical turgid shite.
Completely agree.
When you play with so little intensity, you become sloppy in thought and action.
Correct.
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30 years since Brugges beat an English side in Europe
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The mental approach is all wrong. Like Bournemouth, Bruges were probably expecting an onslaught, but realised early on that we are ponderous in our approach. Lackadaisical turgid shite.
Yes we are doing our system of play regardless of it is working giving us goals or not and when not we continue the same and the opposition battle us down with willpower or something like that. Watkins seems to have no belief now.
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If they could finish we’d be 3 or 4 down by now.
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Getting out played by brugges.
This is simply not good enough
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Totally outplayed tonight. Don't deserve anything.
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When you get a player like Bailey seriously out of form yet still gets picked it sends a negative message to the rest of the team.
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1-0 flatters us.
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The only good thing is it’s only 1-0. Against a really good side, we would be at least 3 down.
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Watkins and Bailey have been beyond shite.
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It feels like they're happy to stay on 9 points
Playing for the cash bonanza of the extra round, IMO.
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If the ball is in play and you pick it up in the penalty area guess what...it's a penalty everytime. With 2 CBs on a booking I'd have taken 1 of them off at half time. 25 mins to save ourselves, not looking likely
the ball wasn't in play, though ...
Off course it was!
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Second game in a row where Emery looks like a lost sheep
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Kamara is the one bright spot tonight
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It feels like they're happy to stay on 9 points
Playing for the cash bonanza of the extra round, IMO.
why would they do that when you make more money from directly qualifying?
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
I imagine he'll be more pissed off about it than you.
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whats bailey till doing on. awful cross
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It was clearly in play
https://x.com/footballontnt/status/1854238345808716268
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This is dire.
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It's at times like this that I'm grateful that I don't really like football.
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Even now, with 15 mins to go, we are showing no intensity, no urgency
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If the ball is in play and you pick it up in the penalty area guess what...it's a penalty everytime. With 2 CBs on a booking I'd have taken 1 of them off at half time. 25 mins to save ourselves, not looking likely
the ball wasn't in play, though ...
Off course it was!
not when you look at the way short goal kicks are taken in the Premier League.
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
I imagine he'll be more pissed off about it than you.
I can guarantee he isn’t.
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Even great teams lose three on the trot....it will probably be four by 10pm Saturday.
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
I hesitate to ask but - for those of us stuck on a train home from work - what DID he do?
Martinez took a quick goal kick to him. Mings didn't realise ball was in play, picked it up and rolled it back to Martinez. Referee gave penalty. One-nil to the Bruggers.
Ah.
Sub-optimal.
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This drop off in form is now officially worrying
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Watkins and Bailey have been beyond shite.
Last season I wouldn’t have swapped them for anyone but tonight I’m comparing them to Wesley and El Ghazi.
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It was clearly in play
https://x.com/footballontnt/status/1854238345808716268
The more i see it the more enraged i get. Under no pressure why the fuck you picking that up ?
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Its like Palace all over
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30 years since Brugges beat an English side in Europe
What are the stats?
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If the ball is in play and you pick it up in the penalty area guess what...it's a penalty everytime. With 2 CBs on a booking I'd have taken 1 of them off at half time. 25 mins to save ourselves, not looking likely
the ball wasn't in play, though ...
..at what stage was the ball not in play, Martinez played a 3 yard pass to him and he picked it up. Hence a penalty, daft, soft, called it what you like, but a penalty
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
I imagine he'll be more pissed off about it than you.
I can guarantee he isn’t.
Ha! I enjoyed that.
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Martinez has played well, too.
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Watkins and Bailey have been beyond shite.
Last season I wouldn’t have swapped them for anyone but tonight I’m comparing them to Wesley and El Ghazi.
Id say wesley and tonev
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Ball bounces free in midfield and not a Villa player within 20 yards
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Duran will cook something up, right?
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Villa players running like they're in treacle. How about moving the ball quicker and see some movement. We're like statues, nobody taking the game by the scruff of the neck.
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I guarantee you'd think differently if Tyrone had hoofed it upfield for Ollie to score and then the ref pulled it back saying it wasn't in play.
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Get watkins off for onana ffs
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Duran and Watkins does not work.
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30 years since Brugges beat an English side in Europe
What are the stats?
As per the above as per what the commentary said
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This drop off in form is now officially worrying
Something is not right…
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kamara getting tired now, getting done in midfield
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You'd think there would be some professional pride after that spuds drubbing but no, we just turn up playing the Billy big bollocks and expect Brugge to roll over. It's fucking pathetic and we've got what we deserved.
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we have shite but a 0 0 , point and clean sheet we would take it on this performance but didnt know we was going to play handball.
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Duran and Watkins does not work.
Emerys pissing me off by keep doing it.just stop doing this it doesnt work!
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
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Duran and Watkins does not work.
It’s like the old days of Watkins and Ings.
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This is the most appalling muck.
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JJ should have started not McGinn
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This drop off in form is now officially worrying
It's just the form catching up with the general level of performance much of this season so far. Some of our results have masked clear issues.
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Ned and Emi2 on, ollie and Diego off I reckon
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
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How many fucking shit crosses?
He is bringing on ned ??? Why ???
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I don’t want to subscribe to hyperbole, but what on earth has happened? We have looked world beating against Bayern and then there’s been an energy drop off and performance drop off since then.
It can’t simply be that we’ve been found out can it? We had the same last season after beating Arsenal at Villa Park - maybe our hangover lasts a month or so?
Either way, it’s a little concerning and a total reality check. As have the been last few games
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This drop off in form is now officially worrying
Something is not right…
Really quite alarming how quickly it seems to have unravelled.
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Ned and Emi2 on, ollie and Diego off I reckon
Go me
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Another great free kick.
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We play so slow with the ball then it becomes really difficult to just snap into a different mindset when we lose it...hence we look slow without it. Confidence this is.
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This drop off in form is now officially worrying
Something is not right…
Cracks starting to appear
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watkins off ,, about time . rubbish
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Havent beat a english team since the mid 90s. Shambles
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Some of our names are getting on my tits
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Why has Ned’s shirt got no sponsor?
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Kamara has been a good comeback and the only positive tonight. Mings should stay on the bench for some time now.
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Why has Ned’s shirt got no sponsor?
I think it's age-related. Duran's hasn't either.
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Why has Ned’s shirt got no sponsor?
Age?
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Never has, a bit of wishful thinking. This doesn't happen to the top sides, they may put in a bad one but soon self correct, we have been off for weeks, Emery needs to sort this out quickly.
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How is Bailey still on.
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
Jesus , you'll have slit your wrists by full time
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Why has Ned’s shirt got no sponsor?
He's only 18 so gambling shirt rules must apply to the under 21 or something in Belgium?
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30 years since Brugges beat an English side in Europe
What are the stats?
As per the above as per what the commentary said
I meant as in how many times they've played an English side.
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We lose every time Trump wins an election and when Cash doesn’t start.
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How many fucking shit crosses?
He is bringing on ned ??? Why ???
Possibly to prevent any chance of Diego getting a second yellow
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30 years since Brugges beat an English side in Europe
What are the stats?
As per the above as per what the commentary said
I meant as in how many times they've played an English side.
They said earlier that they've played 100 Champions League matches, so it's probably quite a few.
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I blame Heck for bad karma
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
Jesus , you'll have slit your wrists by full time
Oh good, the weird stalking arsehole is back.
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What a poor performance. - again. This is now becoming a slump.
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
Jesus , you'll have slit your wrists by full time
Which part is incorrect?
I've given a a shitload of praise to the players and manager when they get it right, i'm also going to say when they haven't got it right in the slightest.
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Imagine paying to go and watch this shite
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Mings should hang his head in shame for that, still can’t quite believe he did that.
I imagine he'll be more pissed off about it than you.
I can guarantee he isn’t.
Is the correct response.
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30 years since Brugges beat an English side in Europe
What are the stats?
As per the above as per what the commentary said
I meant as in how many times they've played an English side.
They said earlier that they've played 100 Champions League matches, so it's probably quite a few.
I was actually curious!
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Kamara has been a good comeback and the only positive tonight. Mings should stay on the bench for some time now.
Kamara slows downs the attacking.
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30 years since Brugges beat an English side in Europe
What are the stats?
As per the above as per what the commentary said
I meant as in how many times they've played an English side.
They said earlier that they've played 100 Champions League matches, so it's probably quite a few.
Wasn’t it 11 defeats and three draws since the last win?
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Buendia being buendia
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Not had a shot on target since the 38th minute.
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buendia sums where he is at with that lay off
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Ffs buendia 😡😡😡😡
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This is piss poor
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Kamara has been a good comeback and the only positive tonight. Mings should stay on the bench for some time now.
Kamara slows downs the attacking.
I think he has 10 teammates who match him in that
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Kamara our best player today.
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Kamara on bright spark
Rest of this teams been pathetic
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Utter shit.
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Utter shite from Torres
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I am starting to get worried we are going to continue to be shit for a while yet.
This is absolutely terrible nonsense.
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Credit where it's due we've been superb at rolling it backwards and sideways in slow motion
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absoluetly dire tonight , all of them but kamara
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Torres fucks me off.
He seems to be unquestionable yet gives the ball away as many times as he doesn’t
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Fuck me Torres. Terrible.
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Pau showing his famous distribution skills nicely.
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What did John McGinn say
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
Jesus , you'll have slit your wrists by full time
Oh good, the weird stalking arsehole is back.
Don't worry, I'll give match threads a swerve from now on. It's not really adding to my experience. It's like watching the game in the pub surrounded by Blues fans
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This teams embarrassed us again tonight
.cheers lads
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Kamara has been our best attacking player. Which says everything.
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I blame Heck for bad karma
They're all bad, not just Kamara!
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I'd settle for a shot on target
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Torres floats the ball beautifully into Row Z
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
Jesus , you'll have slit your wrists by full time
Oh good, the weird stalking arsehole is back.
Don't worry, I'll give match threads a swerve from now on. It's not really adding to my experience. It's like watching the game in the pub surrounded by Blues fans
Blues fans are about your intellectual level I guess.
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Well I'm really looking forward to Saturday night.
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How long left?
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Come on Villa, knick a goal here.
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Konsa, just fucking play it back. Why risk it ?
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Torres, dreadful again.
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baileys still on I noticed laughable
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Mind numbingly bad, against poor opposition. Feel sorry for those who travelled tonight.
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Neds been ok to be fair
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I thought we'd kick-on with a fully fit squad...we've turned shit.
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What a fucking rubbish day.
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Well I'm really looking forward to Saturday night.
It's only Liverpool at Anfield. What could possibly go wrong?
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Buendia has been FUCKING SHIT
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As the Sports Argus would have written..
Form Rate...Dismal
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Buendia has been FUCKING SHIT
Buendia IS fucking shit, I think you’ll find
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We look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
Jesus , you'll have slit your wrists by full time
Oh good, the weird stalking arsehole is back.
Don't worry, I'll give match threads a swerve from now on. It's not really adding to my experience. It's like watching the game in the pub surrounded by Blues fans
Blues fans are about your intellectual level I guess.
DickWe look clueless on the pitch and it has to be said that just as at Spurs so does Unai.
True, unfortunately.
Jesus , you'll have slit your wrists by full time
Oh good, the weird stalking arsehole is back.
Don't worry, I'll give match threads a swerve from now on. It's not really adding to my experience. It's like watching the game in the pub surrounded by Blues fans
Blues fans are about your intellectual level I guess.
In what way is Emery clueless ? it's not his fault is it ?
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Motm Mings (4)
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I blame Heck for bad karma
They're all bad, not just Kamara!
Apart from Martinez they have all been terrible. I can normally see what we are trying to do but I have no idea tonight. There are no patterns of play and until just no overlapping full back play.
Very strange and lacklustre.
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Konsa would rather win a pointless free kick that pass the ball five yards to his own player.
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In the space of a week we underperform so that we show the twats over the city how much better they are - last club in our region to win a domestic trophy and even they beat Bruge away - nice one lads!
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Mind numbingly bad, against poor opposition. Feel sorry for those who travelled tonight.
Me too. Refunds should be made.
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Has it finished yet?
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We don't function the wat Emery wants if Tielemans isn't at it
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never beat the first man
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Why play 1 pass when 50 will do ???????
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Treating the league cup with utter contempt has really blown up in Emery's face. Followed it up with two wretched performances
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The amount of simple passes misplaced and losses of possession is staggering.
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I said it when window shut and its there for all to see - this teams shitter than last year. We weakened the team.
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Konsa has gone all BBB
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stop fucking about and get it in the mixer!
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Very concerning run of form now. I do not like this version of Villa.
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Pathetic performance. Questions need to be asked of the entire staff and team. What on earth was this?!?!
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Ned is like a headless chicken
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Bailey has been particularly bad, bit without him we have no pace.
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Heck is going to be fuming by Villa not adding more money to the pot.
I think we are saving ourselves for Saturday!!
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Honestly, fuck off Bailey.
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And that's it.
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We appear to be a team devoid of confidence.
How the fuck has that happened ?
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i dont want to see bailey until 2025
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Booooo
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Bailey has been particularly bad, bit without him we have no pace.
only Kamara and Emi come out of this game with any credit.
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An absolute shocker that. Truly dismal.
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Utter shite
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I wsih we sold bailey ans not diaby
This version of baileys shit
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That’s ludicrous!
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Absolute disgrace! Half the squad isn't even fit to be filler.
Mings, Emi B, both need moving on asap
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That's what happens when you start picking and choosing which competitions to take seriously. You become a hostage to fortune.
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Nothing good about tonight. Nothing at all
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Fucking sort it out Emery and Monchi
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I wsih we sold bailey ans not diaby
This version of baileys shit
Even more annoying when you see Diaby has 10 assists already this season.
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We don't function the wat Emery wants if Tielemans isn't at it
Indeed. I lost count of how many misplaced passes he made. It was like the crowd's hostility was getting to him
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Can't help thinking that there's something going on behind the scenes
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I wsih we sold bailey ans not diaby
This version of baileys shit
Even more annoying when you see Diaby has 10 assists already this season.
in the saudi pro league hardly the bets league
is it?
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That's what happens when you start picking and choosing which competitions to take seriously. You become a hostage to fortune.
It's not really, though, because we've been poor in all competitions for a few games now.
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What an awful performance. We couldn’t have moaned if we’d have been beat by 4 or 5.
We could make a DVD of the defensive cock ups so far this season and this one is up there right at the top.
That was so far away from what we’ve been under Emery you’d think Gerrard was still in charge. This is the first challenge Emery has had and I think we need to start at the back.
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Need to archive this thread now!
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Can't help thinking that there's something going on behind the scenes
Well, it isn't bloody set piece training.
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That's what happens when you start picking and choosing which competitions to take seriously. You become a hostage to fortune.
It's not really, though, because we've been poor in all competitions for a few games now.
Which only adds to his point, really.
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I wsih we sold bailey ans not diaby
This version of baileys shit
Even more annoying when you see Diaby has 10 assists already this season.
I know its saudi league but feck me we are missing him badly. I know we had FFP but man what a mistake selling him
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Mings, Emi B, both need moving on asap
What a ridiculous statement.
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Can't help thinking that there's something going on behind the scenes
Was thinking the same , players look very unhappy
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Emery has a major problem now, Liverpool could easily take this to 5 on the bounce, this is Emery's first major downturn of any serious consequence, still think we didn't do anywhere near enough in the transfer window, don't have the depth and its massively showing, somebody has commented that it feels like something is going on in the background, fully agree with that, has Emery been approached, players to lose interest like this and switch off is a real concern.
The weekend could be horrendous Brugge are not Liverpool.
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Mings, Emi B, both need moving on asap
What a ridiculous statement.
Show me why? Mings wouldn't and shouldn't be starting for any top 4 or champions league team!
We have moved past him by miles and you can't argue that.
Emi B hasn't ever lived up anywhere near to his price tag.
You go and have a long hard think about what we need to take us forwards and you'll see emi B and Mings are nowhere near that list.