Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on October 09, 2024, 11:26:41 PM
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Good idea from another poster, rolling both threads into one so people don't get bored during the international break.
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About fucking time.
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Why stop there? Reach for the sky
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Should be Threads not Thread.
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It's brilliant and, as it happens, on BBC4 right now. I also rate "The War Game".
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What on earth is this? Has another once sane poster been abducted by the Footy collective?
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Well this is confusing. Two for one!
So regards Fulham who can forget ' Steven Gerrard get out of our club' and the worst best performance that saw him leave!
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And yet arguably still only the second "best" defeat we've had against Fulham in the past few years.
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The first championship play off final! Of course.
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Bologna coach is called Vincenzo Italiano.
I wonder if there are other managers with the name of their country managing in their country ?
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Mike England managed, and played for, Wales. So, close. There must be a few.
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Bologna Fulham and Villa connection:
According to my research Villa haven't ever played Bologna
The Italian team lost to Liverpool away recently too 2-0 and before that the last *English team they had faced in Europe was Fulham!!
2002 UEFA Intertoto Cup when they lost 3-5 on aggregate to Fulham in a final 2-2 home and 1-3 away in England!
* Edited
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Battered West Brom 6-1 on aggregage in the Fairs Cup in 1966/67. Knocked out by Dirty Leeds on a coin toss after both legs finished one-nil to the home side.
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Battered West Brom 6-1 on aggregage in the Fairs Cup in 1966/67. Knocked out by Dirty Leeds on a coin toss after both legs finished one-nil to the home side.
Maybe Fulham were the last English team they faced before Liverpool then
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Yes, those were their most recent European games before qualifying for this season's Champions League.
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Why stop there? Reach for the sky
I voted no. I’m not sure what for but I know it’s very important to use one’s vote.
I do quite like having sky though (the infinite blue space, not the TV thing, still boycott that since the Wapping shenanigans that affected a mate’s Dad. Might weaken though).
I note
Bolognese is a dialect of Emilian spoken in Bologna and its hinterland
Perhaps we could restrict the thread to posts in Little or Big Emilian?
Or photos of celeb fans cooking Bolognese within a 5 mile radius of the Fulham ground?
(https://i.ibb.co/mvJJDwr/IMG-4106.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mvJJDwr)
Time for a sabbatical…
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It's brilliant and, as it happens, on BBC4 right now. I also rate "The War Game".
Slightly less harrowing than the thought of this thread continuing for 2 weeks
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Fulham not having a bad seaon so far so wont be easy. Hopefully we will have a few bodies back for this one
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Bologna is twinned with Coventry so I would expect SOTV flags to be making their way down Jimmy Hill Way in a show of supporter solidarity. Chinny Hill was of course most associated with Coventry and Fulham.
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Bologna coach is called Vincenzo Italiano.
I wonder if there are other managers with the name of their country managing in their country ?
Domenico Tedesco is an Italian who grew up in Germany and has managed both Leipzig and Schalke
(Tedesco is the italian word for German)
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Finally, a threeway!
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Three teams on the pitch at the same time... Will this be like one of those olden days games when the whole village ran around the green, chasing a bundled-up spherical pig-skin, gouging and fingering each other?
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I certainly hope so. There is, at least, a Villa link to such events.
(https://i.ibb.co/hLT8Dps/0-TA-Ballgame-RH-050319-021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hLT8Dps)
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Bologna is twinned with Coventry so I would expect SOTV flags to be making their way down Jimmy Hill Way in a show of supporter solidarity. Chinny Hill was of course most associated with Coventry and Fulham.
And being a raving cheating bastard to relegate Sunderland.
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Eh?
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Eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_City_2–2_Bristol_City_(1977)
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Eh?
Fixed link. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_City_2%E2%80%932_Bristol_City_(1977))
Seems the site didn't like it being directly pasted, only if URL Tagged.
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I voted "no" also. It's a general sort of "no" based upon it being saturday and the wife being away so I really don't feel inspired to do much.
We will have to work hard to break down a classic Italian defence. A win will cement our place in the top 8 (that sounds amazing, doesn't it?) and give some of the European "elite" a real headache. UTV
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Eh?
Fixed link. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_City_2%E2%80%932_Bristol_City_(1977))
Seems the site didn't like it being directly pasted, only if URL Tagged.
Wiki URLs which end with a ")" are always a problem
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It originally died at the hyphen.
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I've had a message from AVFCSupport on Twitter to say that tickets for Bologna won't be emailed until 18 Oct ???
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4 points from these two games would be fantastic. Fulham away is almost never a fixture we do well in, and they are on form.
That said, we are unbeaten away from Villa Park and I fancy us to get a 1-1 draw, before a routine 2-0 win over Bologna.
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I've seen Bologna at home to Fiorentina.
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I voted "no" also. It's a general sort of "no" based upon it being saturday and the wife being away so I really don't feel inspired to do much.
We will have to work hard to break down a classic Italian defence. A win will cement our place in the top 8 (that sounds amazing, doesn't it?) and give some of the European "elite" a real headache. UTV
I think the OPTA figures were 10pts to be sure of the knockout games, 15pts to be in the top 8 teams. Still a bit of work to do, but a win against Bologna would put us in a fantastic position. I can see a scenario where we need to beat Celtic to be top 8. ...and what a night that could be.
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I voted "no" also. It's a general sort of "no" based upon it being saturday and the wife being away so I really don't feel inspired to do much.
We will have to work hard to break down a classic Italian defence. A win will cement our place in the top 8 (that sounds amazing, doesn't it?) and give some of the European "elite" a real headache. UTV
I think the OPTA figures were 10pts to be sure of the knockout games, 15pts to be in the top 8 teams. Still a bit of work to do, but a win against Bologna would put us in a fantastic position. I can see a scenario where we need to beat Celtic to be top 8. ...and what a night that could be.
I believe 16 points was over 70% likely to finish in top 8 whereas it was under 30% likely with 15 points.
Top 24 was similar stats but with 10 points and 9 points respectively.
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Disappointed - though not surprised at the results so far on the survey.
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Fulham away is almost never a fixture we do well in, and they are on form.
Didn't we win there last season and a couple of seasons ago 3-0
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Fulham away is almost never a fixture we do well in, and they are on form.
Didn't we win there last season and a couple of seasons ago 3-0
I don't recall winning 3-0 there but yes we have had the odd win at their ground. That's why I used the word "almost".
Our record their is poor.
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I've had a message from AVFCSupport on Twitter to say that tickets for Bologna won't be emailed until 18 Oct ???
That's what it said on the confirmation email.
This is NOT your ticket.
TICKETS FOR THIS MATCH WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO FANS FROM FRIDAY 18th OCTOBER
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No mention of that in my Euro Cup Scheme notification email.
Just told me they were taking the money and how to opt out before they did so......a whole 35 minutes notice
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I've had a message from AVFCSupport on Twitter to say that tickets for Bologna won't be emailed until 18 Oct ???
That's correct...and Crystal Palace, Carabao Cup, 26th October...which'll be interesting because it's a Saturday.
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Fulham away is almost never a fixture we do well in, and they are on form.
Didn't we win there last season and a couple of seasons ago 3-0
I don't recall winning 3-0 there but yes we have had the odd win at their ground. That's why I used the word "almost".
Our record their is poor.
20-21, covid season, part of us winning the first four games, from memory Hourihane, McGinn, Mings scored? The same period we best Liverpool 7-2
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This thread set up is a disgrace. When we lose both games it’ll be entirely due to this abomination.
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I've seen Bologna at home to Fiorentina.
I've seen Fiorentina at home to Bayern Munich. That's a 2024 CL campaign link up right there.
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Fulham away is almost never a fixture we do well in, and they are on form.
Didn't we win there last season and a couple of seasons ago 3-0
I don't recall winning 3-0 there but yes we have had the odd win at their ground. That's why I used the word "almost".
Our record their is poor.
20-21, covid season, part of us winning the first four games, from memory Hourihane, McGinn, Mings scored? The same period we best Liverpool 7-2
Yep, i think Hourihane might have scored aswell
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Fulham away is almost never a fixture we do well in, and they are on form.
Didn't we win there last season and a couple of seasons ago 3-0
I don't recall winning 3-0 there but yes we have had the odd win at their ground. That's why I used the word "almost".
Our record their is poor.
Apart from the Emery era we've been mostly shit for over a decade. We probably have a poor record at most away grounds.
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Fulham is usually the real classic of a good away day spoiled only by Villa being crap.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
No shade to actual Italians or Italy, but these English ponces can fuck off.
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Come on SE. Time to get off the fence.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
No shade to actual Italians or Italy, but these English ponces can fuck off.
Vaffanculo.
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Woodhall, if I didn't know you better I might even think we were being a teeny bit pretentious dear swearing in Italian.(Venomous response awaited and NO I will not accept the reverse charge phone call).
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Fulham will probably have a good go at taking us on which should suit us down to the ground.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
No shade to actual Italians or Italy, but these English ponces can fuck off.
I can get behind this - bored of hearing that you have tried proper ice cream til you have had it in Italy. Maybe I just like Fabs.
Hope we beat them in the Dolmio Derby
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I went to Bologna about 25 years ago, just for two days working. It's a lovely place but the overriding memory is that every woman was bloody gorgeous.
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Gelato and ice cream are different to be fair, so people saying you haven't had 'proper ice cream' till you had it in Italy are literally wrong.
However, Bolognese sauce isn't tomatoey and carbonara is an egg sauce, it's just getting the name wrong, it's like making pepper steak without pepper or something, it's just the wrong name. Have cream if you like it and it's not carbonara and who cares about that? It's not pesto either, whatever.
(Should be noted Italians obviously do this too. They can't pronounce the word 'curry', which they think is the name of a spice powder, and call croissants 'brioches' when they obviously aren't. Scemi.)
The cappuccino thing though, there's some evidence that Italians and other southern types don't actually digest milk very well, so they don't feel well if they have a lot of it too close to a meal (they definitely have it in the afternoon - it's just not with or after a meal, makes them poorly). You're a hardy, heart-of-oak Germano-Celt though, so have as much milk as you want.
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Isn't Italian food history a load of made up stuff, so according to cultural Italian history supremo, John Dickie.
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Croissant in Italian is cornetto.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
No shade to actual Italians or Italy, but these English ponces can fuck off.
And if i want chips with that , it is my decision 👀😃
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No chips at all, and Monty is spot on, except maybe for the brioche (which I take in the more general Marie-Antoinette sense of sweetish bread than the object of the same name).
Cappucci are deffo mornings or mid afternoon - the logic being, why would you throw milk into your gut while digesting that delicious ragù...
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Isn't Italian food history a load of made up stuff, so according to cultural Italian history supremo, John Dickie.
First, that's not really what Dickie says, he's more talking about the general weaponising and mythologising that goes on.
But he also does fall into a trap that historians of his generation fall into which is now considered a bit passé, namely a tendency to over-debunk, a bit debunk-happy if you like. Like, everyone knows that carbonara is a recent invention and that Venetian food is weird and full of sour raisins. And to take a point - he says the history of posh Italian food was very elaborate and froufrou and so on, and then throws shade on the idea that it's a 'peasant' cuisine, and like, sure that's mythologised to death, but it's also obviously true that with industrialisation there was a huge movement of people from rural poverty to the urban middle class, and they brought their food with them and changed Italian cookbooks in the process. Basically he's backlashing against something and he goes a bit too hard, and the serious historians are now moderately backlashing against that.
Croissant in Italian is cornetto.
I know. People in the north say brioche though, erroneously (I disagree with ED, I think they're just wrong about what it is. And they really can't say curry).
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Gelato and ice cream are different to be fair, so people saying you haven't had 'proper ice cream' till you had it in Italy are literally wrong.
However, Bolognese sauce isn't tomatoey and carbonara is an egg sauce, it's just getting the name wrong, it's like making pepper steak without pepper or something, it's just the wrong name. Have cream if you like it and it's not carbonara and who cares about that? It's not pesto either, whatever.
(Should be noted Italians obviously do this too. They can't pronounce the word 'curry', which they think is the name of a spice powder, and call croissants 'brioches' when they obviously aren't. Scemi.)
The cappuccino thing though, there's some evidence that Italians and other southern types don't actually digest milk very well, so they don't feel well if they have a lot of it too close to a meal (they definitely have it in the afternoon - it's just not with or after a meal, makes them poorly). You're a hardy, heart-of-oak Germano-Celt though, so have as much milk as you want.
It's just language though. In Italy carbonara means an egg and pancetta concoction, in the UK it means cream and fucking mushrooms or whatever (I hate mushrooms). Surely we can all live with that?!
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It's a fair point, but I don't know. Recipes have international names, have done for 150 years. A Caesar salad is a certain thing, tonkotsu ramen is a certain thing, Beef Wellington is a certain thing.
Italians get pissed off with it because they feel like the French get all the respect but that people can do whatever they like with their stuff. Northern vaguely-racist contempt for the south of Europe and so on. You can see the grievance.
Edit: I mean, there is such a thing as the Italian food-bore, usually some bloke with big opinions on onion in amatriciana and a deeply sexually frustrated wife. But there's not nothing in there in general.
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A Caesar salad is a certain thing, tonkotsu ramen is a certain thing, Beef Wellington is a certain thing.
"I think we just ran out of Waldorfs"
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We don't have a cuisine in this country, which is a shame, but one of the upsides is being able to spot the pomposity of our (admittedly, better) neighbours when it comes to shit like this. NONE OF THIS MATTERS LADS!
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Meh, I think it's quite pompous the other way too tbh.
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If you want a fight, Monty, just say so and I'll hurt you in the soul (I've just been to a gypsy wedding so I feel hard but I've never had a fight so please don't say yes. It was a gay gypsy wedding, not that there's anything wrong with that).
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I dunno what it is like now, I am sure it must be better, but I lived just outside Milan for 4 years in the late 90s and in terms of food options, Italy was incredibly uninteresting.
Even somewhere like Milan, the choices if you wanted not-Italian were hundreds of really shit quality chinese places, or one or two TGI Friday style hell holes in the city centre and that was about it.
I remember thinking back then, and this was before Birmingham's regeneration was anything like in full swing, that Brum had way, way more impressive food options than Milan did. I am sure it has changed massively since then, but back then, it was all very stereotypically Italian. Even the restaurants were all the same. Yellow / white table cloths, austere interiors* and the usual thing of entire families being there with children running around screaming uninhibited.
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"And that was Austere Interiors with their new 45, 'Screaming Children'"
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Ha!
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If you want a fight, Monty, just say so and I'll hurt you in the soul (I've just been to a gypsy wedding so I feel hard but I've never had a fight so please don't say yes. It was a gay gypsy wedding, not that there's anything wrong with that).
Ha let's not fight, no. Obviously there are food wankers who insist that if you even like something else you're 'wrong', and they all vote for Meloni. And on Paulie's point, there are people who object to how it has changed and that there are too many 'ethnic' restaurants, and they all vote for Lega. But it should be pointed out that the kind of person in Italy who thinks like this (food culture is all made up, variety = globalised food etc) is almost exclusively like someone I know who loves Berlusconi and keeps saying that 'Italy needs a Thatcher'.
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True that the culinary “options” are limited. And you can probably make the same case for wine. In Britain, it’s relatively easy to find wine from all over the world. Far harder in Italy (and neighbouring countries), where the influential position of the local offering and its codification tends to stymie diversity.
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True that the culinary “options” are limited. And you can probably make the same case for wine. In Britain, it’s relatively easy to find wine from all over the world. Far harder in Italy (and neighbouring countries), where the influential position of the local offering and its codification tends to stymie diversity.
It's also Italy having a massively lesser colonial history.
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Sure yes, that explains some of it. Although the same relative lack of diversity can be observed in France, for example (more diverse than Italy food wise, but far less than Britain; very homogenous on the wine front), despite having been among the most extensive colonisers.
I’d add Britain forming an island and the relative speed of the Industrial Revolution as other factors. Lots of choice, but not much that is nostrano (or even grasp of what that might be).
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I love italian food, and wine. I dont know why not having non-italian options would be an issue. Did you know in italy, a Caborona use cream.
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Sure yes, that explains some of it. Although the same relative lack of diversity can be observed in France, for example (more diverse than Italy food wise, but far less than Britain; very homogenous on the wine front), despite having been among the most extensive colonisers.
I’d add Britain forming an island and the relative speed of the Industrial Revolution as other factors. Lots of choice, but not much that is nostrano (or even grasp of what that might be).
Sure there's a lot of sense in that, though the wine thing is really about incompatible customs laws on alcohol between about 1900 and the 1970s making people in wine countries just used to their own stuff.
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Sure yes, that explains some of it. Although the same relative lack of diversity can be observed in France, for example (more diverse than Italy food wise, but far less than Britain; very homogenous on the wine front), despite having been among the most extensive colonisers.
I’d add Britain forming an island and the relative speed of the Industrial Revolution as other factors. Lots of choice, but not much that is nostrano (or even grasp of what that might be).
But isnt the UK unique in that a lot of the food we produce, we dont really appericate? We dont seem to have much pride over our food. For example - we dont eat a lot of fish - despite being surrounded by it. We produce a lot of cheese but it doesnt feature heavily in our meals (beyond cheddar). We almost have a reverse snobbery about food - in terms of everyone elses is better.
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We produce a lot of cheese but it doesnt feature heavily in our meals (beyond cheddar). We almost have a reverse snobbery about food - in terms of everyone elses is better.
I eat lots of cheese that isn't cheddar.
Maybe you're just old fashioned?
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We produce a lot of cheese but it doesnt feature heavily in our meals (beyond cheddar). We almost have a reverse snobbery about food - in terms of everyone elses is better.
I eat lots of cheese that isn't cheddar.
Maybe you're just old fashioned?
No sorry - thats not what I mean. I eat a lot of different uk produced cheese - but its not celebrated in the same way as it is in other countries. (Or at leasts that my perception). Its not used in reciepes and meals to the same extent
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I love cheddar.
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To me Stilton is the king of cheeses, shortly followed by Brie.
Red Leicester is another favourite - I lived in leicester for a while, and in somerset for a big part my life, and I always thought it funny the way that Cheddar and Red Leicester were interchanged as being the "go-to" cheese.
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Vintage cheddar, fresh mozzarella, chaource and manchego make up my Mount Cheesemore.
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Gorgonzola.
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Ive never really got Mozzorella or Burrata. Dont mind it cooked, but I went to uni with a girl who would eat Mozzeralla like an apple - never understood.
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Stilton with Christmas Cake and port. Worth the heartburn that keeps you up all night
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Fulham won 2 drawn one at home this season
Beat Newcastle 3-1 in last home match.
Former Villa man Adama and nearly villa man Smith Rowe are form players providing goals and assists and Raul seems to be in form scoring 4 already this season
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Vintage cheddar, fresh mozzarella, chaource and manchego make up my Mount Cheesemore.
Swap the Chaource for Comte and I’m with you.
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Stilton with Christmas Cake and port. Worth the heartburn that keeps you up all night
Stilton soaked in port is even better.
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I really enjoyed the food snobbery chat and a bit of history on Italian cuisine. I knew this genius thread would work out.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
Italy's contributions to frothy coffee of latte and cappuccino are shit anyway. Both far too much milk compared to espresso. The Aussie flat white and Spanish cortado are far superior. And you don't get anybody from Oz telling you when you can and can't drink a flat white.
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Fulham won 2 drawn one at home this season
Beat Newcastle 3-1 in last home match.
Former Villa man Adama and nearly villa man Smith Rowe are form players providing goals and assists and Raul seems to be in form scoring 4 already this season
All very interesting, but what's it got to do with cheese 🧀?
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The cappuccino is better than flat white, but I agree that the cortado is the best one.
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Nice of you to mention Fulham’s intertoto cup win, looking to Saturdays game to see how we perform against a decent Villa side, we’ve started reasonably well so far, probably with a bit more luck we could have a few more points on board, I think Emery and Silva are similarly good managers, Emery took you from the fringe of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, Silva got us a promoted everybody expected us to struggle but we got a mid table finish, then had to cope with losing Mitrovic for last season then losing Palhinha for this season, recruitment has been good this season hopefully top half finish and maybe push on for European place it would be nice to get to an FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
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The cappuccino is better than flat white, but I agree that the cortado is the best one.
You've obviously never had a pingado.
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The cappuccino is better than flat white, but I agree that the cortado is the best one.
You've obviously never had a pingado.
I'm a fair man and willing to change my mind if presented with the evidence.
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am I right in thinking the Rags are at home the same night we play Bologna ?
Bloody hell, its bad enough getting to and from Villa park without that lot being on the roads as well.
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Nice of you to mention Fulham’s intertoto cup win, looking to Saturdays game to see how we perform against a decent Villa side, we’ve started reasonably well so far, probably with a bit more luck we could have a few more points on board, I think Emery and Silva are similarly good managers, Emery took you from the fringe of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, Silva got us a promoted everybody expected us to struggle but we got a mid table finish, then had to cope with losing Mitrovic for last season then losing Palhinha for this season, recruitment has been good this season hopefully top half finish and maybe push on for European place it would be nice to get to an FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
I'm sorry LF, what has this got to do with coffee?
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am I right in thinking the Rags are at home the same night we play Bologna ?
Bloody hell, its bad enough getting to and from Villa park without that lot being on the roads as well.
Yeah they're at home to Bolton.
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am I right in thinking the Rags are at home the same night we play Bologna ?
Bloody hell, its bad enough getting to and from Villa park without that lot being on the roads as well.
Yeah they're at home to Bolton.
I hope the Royal Mail has taken on some extra staff to deal with the flood of letters emerging from Lancashire in praise of Blues, their fans and the handsome Gardner family.
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Nice of you to mention Fulham’s intertoto cup win, looking to Saturdays game to see how we perform against a decent Villa side, we’ve started reasonably well so far, probably with a bit more luck we could have a few more points on board, I think Emery and Silva are similarly good managers, Emery took you from the fringe of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, Silva got us a promoted everybody expected us to struggle but we got a mid table finish, then had to cope with losing Mitrovic for last season then losing Palhinha for this season, recruitment has been good this season hopefully top half finish and maybe push on for European place it would be nice to get to an FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
I'm sorry LF, what has this got to do with coffee?
sorry I didn’t realise this was the Aston Villa coffee appreciation society
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Nice of you to mention Fulham’s intertoto cup win, looking to Saturdays game to see how we perform against a decent Villa side, we’ve started reasonably well so far, probably with a bit more luck we could have a few more points on board, I think Emery and Silva are similarly good managers, Emery took you from the fringe of the relegation zone to the champions league with the majority of players that struggled under Stevie G, Silva got us a promoted everybody expected us to struggle but we got a mid table finish, then had to cope with losing Mitrovic for last season then losing Palhinha for this season, recruitment has been good this season hopefully top half finish and maybe push on for European place it would be nice to get to an FA cup final for the first time in 50 years!!
I'm sorry LF, what has this got to do with coffee?
sorry I didn’t realise this was the Aston Villa coffee appreciation society
😀. You're looking good so far this season, franky, long may it continue*.
*unless it affects us in any way.
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Pizza has to be one of the biggest scams ever .
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So less than a week before Fulham will this thread now just soley be a Fulham pre game thread that would be best suited. And then soon start a Bologna thread when the time is right.
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No.
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Fulham won 2 drawn one at home this season
Beat Newcastle 3-1 in last home match.
Former Villa man Adama and nearly villa man Smith Rowe are form players providing goals and assists and Raul seems to be in form scoring 4 already this season
All very interesting, but what's it got to do with cheese 🧀?
Edama Traore. Emmenthal Smith-Rowe.
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So less than a week before Fulham will this thread now just soley be a Fulham pre game thread that would be best suited. And then soon start a Bologna thread when the time is right.
Quite right, and frankly not before tome.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
No shade to actual Italians or Italy, but these English ponces can fuck off.
I prefer a microwaved Chicago Town pizza to Italian pizza and once ate one between two pieces of buttered white bread.
Have that Italy!
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Fulham won 2 drawn one at home this season
Beat Newcastle 3-1 in last home match.
Former Villa man Adama and nearly villa man Smith Rowe are form players providing goals and assists and Raul seems to be in form scoring 4 already this season
All very interesting, but what's it got to do with cheese 🧀?
Edama Traore. Emmenthal Smith-Rowe.
Craven Cottage Cheese*
* yes, yes, I know.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
No shade to actual Italians or Italy, but these English ponces can fuck off.
I prefer a microwaved Chicago Town pizza to Italian pizza and once ate one between two pieces of buttered white bread.
Have that Italy!
I'm putting parmesan on a prawn as I type.
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I wouldn't have a curry in Italy. Try a pasta dish. I enjoy a Caprese salad.
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I'm making Bologna a grudge match because of all the hateful middle-class people I've met over the years, after a fortnight on holiday in Italy, who've told me that what we call spaghetti Bolognese doesn't actually exist in Italy, and that nobody drinks a cappuccino after 11am there. WHO CARES?! We have a tomatoey dish called spaghetti Bolognese, live with it. We put cream in a carbonara, fucking deal with it. And if someone is mental enough to want a coffee in the afternoon, let them fucking deal with it again.
No shade to actual Italians or Italy, but these English ponces can fuck off.
I prefer a microwaved Chicago Town pizza to Italian pizza and once ate one between two pieces of buttered white bread.
Have that Italy!
Wise to protect the roof of your mouth
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Fulham won 2 drawn one at home this season
Beat Newcastle 3-1 in last home match.
Former Villa man Adama and nearly villa man Smith Rowe are form players providing goals and assists and Raul seems to be in form scoring 4 already this season
All very interesting, but what's it got to do with cheese 🧀?
Edama Traore. Emmenthal Smith-Rowe.
Craven Cottage Cheese*
* yes, yes, I know.
Wildy off topic! But that's very good!
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James Brie..?
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Talking of London and Italian clubs where is Antonio Comte these days?
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I've been thinking : Could we have a code words like 'the threads gone' on all threads.
If so, that would be a reminder to return to the topic at hand and focus on it on the main service user board. It could be a good idea for a discussion to get back on track if ten persons on it declare that the 'threads gone'.
A team has ten outfield players, thus it makes sense that if ten individuals request that the issue revert to its original title thread, it will happen.
If it doesn't get to 10 saying 'the threads gone' I guess it's okay for the off-topic conversation to go on and those opposing will have to naturally wait for it to die out.
I mean, why is there so much talk about cheese in this post about the Fulham and Bologna match?
1. 'the threads gone'
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Talking of London and Italian clubs where is Antonio Comte these days?
Thought he was in charge of Sheffield Wensleydale...
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I've been thinking : Could we have a code words like 'the threads gone' on all threads.
There’s a danger in this though because I think this thread’s gone from strength to strength, but I don’t want anyone to think I’ve voted against off-topic cheese chat.
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I've been thinking : Could we have a code words like 'the threads gone' on all threads.
If so, that would be a reminder to return to the topic at hand and focus on it on the main service user board. It could be a good idea for a discussion to get back on track if ten persons on it declare that the 'threads gone'.
A team has ten outfield players, thus it makes sense that if ten individuals request that the issue revert to its original title thread, it will happen.
If it doesn't get to 10 saying 'the threads gone' I guess it's okay for the off-topic conversation to go on and those opposing will have to naturally wait for it to die out.
I mean, why is there so much talk about cheese in this post about the Fulham and Bologna match?
1. 'the threads gone'
More holes in this argument than in Emmental.
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Emmental!
That too is very good.
Begrudgingly!!
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In short, no. VillaTalk would welcome that idea but this place is what is because of deviation from the topic at hand.
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Full ham and cheese.
(https://i.ibb.co/SB9RwB5/cheeses.png) (https://ibb.co/SB9RwB5)
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In short, no. VillaTalk would welcome that idea but this place is what is because of deviation from the topic at hand.
Ok well I not familiar with Villa talk but that's the second person who has recommended it.
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I wouldn't have a curry in Italy. Try a pasta dish. I enjoy a Caprese salad.
Caprese salad famously a pasta dish.
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I wouldn't have a curry in Italy. Try a pasta dish. I enjoy a Caprese salad.
Caprese salad famously a pasta dish.
It's a cheese and tomato sandwich sans bread.
Nice though.
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Bring on Bologna!
I wonder if Maatsen will play this one as rotation name of the game with several matches coming up in quick succession and he wasn't used against Fulham.
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Has anyone received their ticket for the Bologna game yet? I haven't got anything.
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Given that folks from Bologna insist on telling everybody that there's no such thing as Spaghetti Bolognese, just inform them we've got our very own Spaghetti Junction..
That'll get their heads spinning.
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Has anyone received their ticket for the Bologna game yet? I haven't got anything.
Yes. Went into the Villa app and it was there to download to me Google Wallet.
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Given that folks from Bologna insist on telling everybody that there's no such thing as Spaghetti Bolognese, just inform them we've got our very own Spaghetti Junction..
That'll get their heads spinning.
Orzo you think.
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I've been to Bologna's ground. They were playing Fiorentina.
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Given that folks from Bologna insist on telling everybody that there's no such thing as Spaghetti Bolognese, just inform them we've got our very own Spaghetti Junction..
That'll get their heads spinning.
Overlooked by The Armada (or was)
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Has anyone received their ticket for the Bologna game yet? I haven't got anything.
Yes. Went into the Villa app and it was there to download to me Google Wallet.
I don't seem to have the option to download it so have contacted AVFC Support.