Play nicelyThis is going to age well. ;-)
Two legs - I have faith.Ones been amputated……
2-0 down. All to play for.
And on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Never a 2-4 performance (by either side) everything that could go against us did.
2nd leg could be 4-0 either way or anything in between.
And on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Not really necessary, no?
And on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Not really necessary, no?
Yeah, I'm really not getting this.
Such a weird catastrophe. I don't know how we're going to manage it but Doug cannot play Sunday. Poor bastard looks like his head's nowhere.
2-0 down. All to play for.
Especially as CL looks nailed onAnd on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Not really necessary, no?
Yeah, I'm really not getting this.
And on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Not really necessary, no?
Such a weird catastrophe. I don't know how we're going to manage it but Doug cannot play Sunday. Poor bastard looks like his head's nowhere.
That game was a carrier bag full of monkey spunk .
Luiz and McGinn played like hungover Sunday League players and I may murder someone if Lenglet puts on a Villa shirt again.
Can't see a turnaround in what will be a cauldron of an atmosphere
And on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Not really necessary, no?
Why? The more important thing is more likely now than it was two hours ago. We're a bit closer to the thing that matters.
They don't play again until the 2nd leg.
As bizarre as it is, and as bad as we were at times, it was down to the pens. We don't concede one so soon after making it 2-2 I think we go on to win. And then if Luiz scores our pen I think we score again.
That game was a carrier bag full of monkey spunk .
A big dog's cock spunking salty dog spunk right in our stupid faces.
Never a 2-4 performance (by either side) everything that could go against us did.
2nd leg could be 4-0 either way or anything in between.
Agreed.
I still fancy this game going to ET.
I still fancy this game going to ET.
Ouch
And on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Not really necessary, no?
Why? The more important thing is more likely now than it was two hours ago. We're a bit closer to the thing that matters.
Well, I’m gutted that we’re likely out of another cup, and the semi-final is always the worst time to lose (maybe apart from the 2015 final, which was horrible), but the Spurs result is some consolation.
We weee unlucky to lose I thought.
Why did Emery leave Pau Torres on the bench??brain fart. The league is out to lose and the cup we needed to go for as they all kept telling us.
Unprofessional, sloppy, lazy, badly organised. Worst performance of the season.pretty good summary, but I would add Spurs, Newcastle and Chelsea twice to that.
We haven't really played that well in this tournament at all, apart from pockets here and there, just my opinion but tonight was really poor. Olsen is crap, I'd rather have the kid in goal as he's an unknown quantity and we all know what Olsen is like. Konsa needs a proper partner, even he was poor tonight. Cash, Lenglet need to go. Digne's crossing was shit and his defending not a great deal better. Luiz is slow to move the ball and the penalty at both ends, summed up his last few weeks. Diaby offered little either. It was poor all round. What a time to have a collective shitfest performance. We can score goals, but we cannot defend.
We haven't really played that well in this tournament at all, apart from pockets here and there, just my opinion but tonight was really poor. Olsen is crap, I'd rather have the kid in goal as he's an unknown quantity and we all know what Olsen is like. Konsa needs a proper partner, even he was poor tonight. Cash, Lenglet need to go. Digne's crossing was shit and his defending not a great deal better. Luiz is slow to move the ball and the penalty at both ends, summed up his last few weeks. Diaby offered little either. It was poor all round. What a time to have a collective shitfest performance. We can score goals, but we cannot defend.
Why did Emery leave Pau Torres on the bench??
Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Not making excuses because there were faults all around but did the jerseys look as similar on the pitch as they did on TV? There were quite a few time we got in good positions and then looked like we were literally passing it to them.
We haven't really played that well in this tournament at all, apart from pockets here and there, just my opinion but tonight was really poor. Olsen is crap, I'd rather have the kid in goal as he's an unknown quantity and we all know what Olsen is like. Konsa needs a proper partner, even he was poor tonight. Cash, Lenglet need to go. Digne's crossing was shit and his defending not a great deal better. Luiz is slow to move the ball and the penalty at both ends, summed up his last few weeks. Diaby offered little either. It was poor all round. What a time to have a collective shitfest performance. We can score goals, but we cannot defend.
I'd agree with that, but I think we've put in more shit performances than decent ones for about two months now, but seem to be just about getting away with it, both in the league and this competition.
Why did Emery leave Pau Torres on the bench??
Heck said we are paying Lenglet a lot of money, and Barca have slipped us some more as they want to sell him and need him to play to show other teams.
We haven't really played that well in this tournament at all, apart from pockets here and there, just my opinion but tonight was really poor. Olsen is crap, I'd rather have the kid in goal as he's an unknown quantity and we all know what Olsen is like. Konsa needs a proper partner, even he was poor tonight. Cash, Lenglet need to go. Digne's crossing was shit and his defending not a great deal better. Luiz is slow to move the ball and the penalty at both ends, summed up his last few weeks. Diaby offered little either. It was poor all round. What a time to have a collective shitfest performance. We can score goals, but we cannot defend.
It’s a miracle we are having our best season for 42 years
Villa and Spurs doing what they do best on the same night.
If there is one positive that I might be able to draw, it’s overconfidence.
They’ll be going home thinking that it’s game over and they have a 2 goal lead. In the next game, if we have Emi back, swap Lenglet for Pau we ditch Dougie and replace him with Tielemans, and go all chaos on the attack, they will not know what has hit them.
A full strength Villa is a very different Villa to what we have seen in the last few weeks.
We are tired, our paper thin squad has been stretched by fatigue, injuries and suspensions. Dougie is gassed. He does care, his reaction to his missed penalty says it all.
It’s going to be a massive ask though in a very hostile environment. And I don’t think we’ll do it this time. If that penalty went in, we would have. But based on the performance tonight, the ineptitude of the CL referees and past history, it doesn’t look likely.
I just hope we learn from this. We’re good at times, but equally a chronic attack of the turds at other times. We need to wise up to this, we’ve been unlucky with injuries… but maybe we were lucky to have lasted this long without a meltdown somewhere?
They don't strike me as a side that will shut up shop, either side could score 5 next week with our attack, and defence.I would have agreed before Christmas.
The only good thing about getting CL is the money the club get. Very much doubt we’ll go beyond the 8 group league matches. Only being realistic.
We haven't really played that well in this tournament at all, apart from pockets here and there, just my opinion but tonight was really poor. Olsen is crap, I'd rather have the kid in goal as he's an unknown quantity and we all know what Olsen is like. Konsa needs a proper partner, even he was poor tonight. Cash, Lenglet need to go. Digne's crossing was shit and his defending not a great deal better. Luiz is slow to move the ball and the penalty at both ends, summed up his last few weeks. Diaby offered little either. It was poor all round. What a time to have a collective shitfest performance. We can score goals, but we cannot defend.
Positive: If we can go and win 2-0 at the Emirates, we can win 3-0 at Olympiacos.
Negative: We hardly ever put a decent performance in these days, and have been largely rank in Europe but getting results. I think we are getting found out at the last moment here.
What a let down. Since the turn of the year, we've let in too many goals. Whatever the outcome of the remaining matches of the season, it has to be addressed as clubs with the aspirations we now profess to have don't ship 2, 3 or 4 goals as frequently as we have done.
evenWe haven't really played that well in this tournament at all, apart from pockets here and there, just my opinion but tonight was really poor. Olsen is crap, I'd rather have the kid in goal as he's an unknown quantity and we all know what Olsen is like. Konsa needs a proper partner, even he was poor tonight. Cash, Lenglet need to go. Digne's crossing was shit and his defending not a great deal better. Luiz is slow to move the ball and the penalty at both ends, summed up his last few weeks. Diaby offered little either. It was poor all round. What a time to have a collective shitfest performance. We can score goals, but we cannot defend.
You are absolutely right steve. We haven't played well on this competition. Only in the ajax and AZ games. We were not good against mostar or legia. We git lucky against lille and pur luck run out tonight.
You cant put jn shit performances like that and expect to get through. You get to 2-2 then a fww minutes later concede a pen. Then yiu get a pen and you fucking miss. Thats proper piss poor and you can't defend that
evenWe haven't really played that well in this tournament at all, apart from pockets here and there, just my opinion but tonight was really poor. Olsen is crap, I'd rather have the kid in goal as he's an unknown quantity and we all know what Olsen is like. Konsa needs a proper partner, even he was poor tonight. Cash, Lenglet need to go. Digne's crossing was shit and his defending not a great deal better. Luiz is slow to move the ball and the penalty at both ends, summed up his last few weeks. Diaby offered little either. It was poor all round. What a time to have a collective shitfest performance. We can score goals, but we cannot defend.
You are absolutely right steve. We haven't played well on this competition. Only in the ajax and AZ games. We were not good against mostar or legia. We git lucky against lille and pur luck run out tonight.
You cant put jn shit performances like that and expect to get through. You get to 2-2 then a fww minutes later concede a pen. Then yiu get a pen and you fucking miss. Thats proper piss poor and you can't defend that
Yawn!
What a let down. Since the turn of the year, we've let in too many goals. Whatever the outcome of the remaining matches of the season, it has to be addressed as clubs with the aspirations we now profess to have don't ship 2, 3 or 4 goals as frequently as we have done.If it wasn't for Martinez it'd have been 4, 5, 6...
How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.Agree
Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
Olsen has to go now . If he plays again it's gross negligence.
How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
I hope the players are pissed off with the game and their performance tonight and want to put it right, but no way should they feel shame, be called bottlers etc. It's them that have turned us from a relegation threatened piss poor side to a side that's clear in 4th and in a European semi final. A few dodgy games at the end of an injury plagued and still successful season doesn't change that.I want a trophy. That's what matters, not getting battered against shit teams from other countries every fortnight.
I hope the players are pissed off with the game and their performance tonight and want to put it right, but no way should they feel shame, be called bottlers etc. It's them that have turned us from a relegation threatened piss poor side to a side that's clear in 4th and in a European semi final. A few dodgy games at the end of an injury plagued and still successful season doesn't change that.
Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos do
No help from our own fa
Olsen has to go now . If he plays again it's gross negligence.
He has 78 caps for Sweden. Any 'keeper we try to sign knows they will never unseat Emi- won't be that easy to get a better no.2
I hope the players are pissed off with the game and their performance tonight and want to put it right, but no way should they feel shame, be called bottlers etc. It's them that have turned us from a relegation threatened piss poor side to a side that's clear in 4th and in a European semi final. A few dodgy games at the end of an injury plagued and still successful season doesn't change that.
Olsen has to go now . If he plays again it's gross negligence.
He has 78 caps for Sweden. Any 'keeper we try to sign knows they will never unseat Emi- won't be that easy to get a better no.2
I hope the players are pissed off with the game and their performance tonight and want to put it right, but no way should they feel shame, be called bottlers etc. It's them that have turned us from a relegation threatened piss poor side to a side that's clear in 4th and in a European semi final. A few dodgy games at the end of an injury plagued and still successful season doesn't change that.
Yes, I have said same, they are managing him.Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
I suspect Pau has not been fully fit since Christmas and his minutes are being managed.
Their keeper barely had to work to save those 14 other shots. Most straight at him. We put them through on goal repeatedly pissing about at the back.Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
We scored twice, missed a penalty and had 14 other shots. You really think we barely tried to score?
How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
Olsen has to go now . If he plays again it's gross negligence.
He has 78 caps for Sweden. Any 'keeper we try to sign knows they will never unseat Emi- won't be that easy to get a better no.2
It’d be very easy.
Their keeper barely had to work to save those 14 other shots. Most straight at him. We put them through on goal repeatedly pissing about at the back.Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
We scored twice, missed a penalty and had 14 other shots. You really think we barely tried to score?
Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
I suspect Pau has not been fully fit since Christmas and his minutes are being managed.
But the injuries mean you are putting the burden on fewer players, it wasn’t injuries tonight but it was fatigue. I do not understand why people can not see that.How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos doYou think it would of made a difference? Sometimes you have to admit we fucked it up.. we gifted them their goals and barely tried to score. We left one of our best players on the bench although we knew the Chelsea score during the game..
No help from our own fa
Wish we fuckin had a week off like olympiakos do
No help from our own fa
You want us to play all of Brighton, Liverpool and Palace in eight days at the end of the season?
Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
One things for sure that’s the last match thread I’m logging in for 😂
One things for sure that’s the last match thread I’m logging in for 😂
Agree mate, that speed of reaction, incisive running, anticipation and spontaneity is not there.How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Isn’t it just the season taking its toll? Injuries, suspensions and generally running out of steam. Luck not quite on our side too? It’s happening at Liverpool who have far more resources than us.
At times tonight going forward we looked excellent but whenever they attacked we looked vulnerable and very disjointed and lacking in confidence, which sums up what I said above.
One things for sure that’s the last match thread I’m logging in for 😂
Olsen has to go now . If he plays again it's gross negligence.
He has 78 caps for Sweden. Any 'keeper we try to sign knows they will never unseat Emi- won't be that easy to get a better no.2
It’d be very easy.
Who? Suggest one that would be prepared to sit on the bench and used on an occasional basis.
Agree. Bonkers.Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
Spot on. I can’t believe, after the way we’ve battled against the odds to achieve what we have so far this season, people are a) surprised we’ve run out of steam, and b) not full of admiration for the players and manager. Disgrace my foot bottom.
How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Isn’t it just the season taking its toll? Injuries, suspensions and generally running out of steam. Luck not quite on our side too? It’s happening at Liverpool who have far more resources than us.
At times tonight going forward we looked excellent but whenever they attacked we looked vulnerable and very disjointed and lacking in confidence, which sums up what I said above.
One things for sure that’s the last match thread I’m logging in for 😂
Yet you will be there like every game 😁
Maybe with Torres, or Mings for that matter and Emi in goal, it wouldn’t have been four against us?How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Isn’t it just the season taking its toll? Injuries, suspensions and generally running out of steam. Luck not quite on our side too? It’s happening at Liverpool who have far more resources than us.
At times tonight going forward we looked excellent but whenever they attacked we looked vulnerable and very disjointed and lacking in confidence, which sums up what I said above.
If that is the case we may as well not turn up next week, because it won’t get easier. I just think it’s a bit of an easy out to say it’s down to injuries, resources etc. I don’t doubt it’s an influencing factor, and I’ve no idea how many games Olympiacos have played but I imagine it’s plenty. The team we had out tonight should have been much better, but they underperformed. They have a chance to fix it, but it was dreadful tonight and that team should have coped better.
Agree. Bonkers.Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
Spot on. I can’t believe, after the way we’ve battled against the odds to achieve what we have so far this season, people are a) surprised we’ve run out of steam, and b) not full of admiration for the players and manager. Disgrace my foot bottom.
I'd fancy it's a lot less physically and mentally demanding playing a season in Greece than it is in the PL.
One things for sure that’s the last match thread I’m logging in for 😂REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE! REJOICE!
I'd fancy it's a lot less physically and mentally demanding playing a season in Greece than it is in the PL.
Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
Agree mate, that speed of reaction, incisive running, anticipation and spontaneity is not there.How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Isn’t it just the season taking its toll? Injuries, suspensions and generally running out of steam. Luck not quite on our side too? It’s happening at Liverpool who have far more resources than us.
At times tonight going forward we looked excellent but whenever they attacked we looked vulnerable and very disjointed and lacking in confidence, which sums up what I said above.
Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
Ok you accept mediocre results like this if thats what you prefer and not to win anything but if you think that peffor.ance ronight was acceptable your expectations are low.
Lose a game but bloody die for the shirt. So none of that. We collapsed just like we did saturday. So dont see how i am talking shit wh i just want to see a bit of passion from the players and we have seen veey little of that.
As i said before if fatigue is a issue why isnt unai using playees like kesler and kellyman.more ?
I'd fancy it's a lot less physically and mentally demanding playing a season in Greece than it is in the PL.
No doubt, but on the flipside PL teams have the resources to have better players.
How the f you can blame Olsen for the defeat,one was a penalty and the other a deflection,
Yes they under performed because they are tired, probably a few carrying injuries because unless you haven’t noticed we have lots of injured players and not much squad depth. So we are having to keep putting the same players out based on who is available.How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Isn’t it just the season taking its toll? Injuries, suspensions and generally running out of steam. Luck not quite on our side too? It’s happening at Liverpool who have far more resources than us.
At times tonight going forward we looked excellent but whenever they attacked we looked vulnerable and very disjointed and lacking in confidence, which sums up what I said above.
If that is the case we may as well not turn up next week, because it won’t get easier. I just think it’s a bit of an easy out to say it’s down to injuries, resources etc. I don’t doubt it’s an influencing factor, and I’ve no idea how many games Olympiacos have played but I imagine it’s plenty. The team we had out tonight should have been much better, but they underperformed. They have a chance to fix it, but it was dreadful tonight and that team should have coped better.
I'd fancy it's a lot less physically and mentally demanding playing a season in Greece than it is in the PL.
Sanity at last.Agree mate, that speed of reaction, incisive running, anticipation and spontaneity is not there.How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Isn’t it just the season taking its toll? Injuries, suspensions and generally running out of steam. Luck not quite on our side too? It’s happening at Liverpool who have far more resources than us.
At times tonight going forward we looked excellent but whenever they attacked we looked vulnerable and very disjointed and lacking in confidence, which sums up what I said above.
Reaction times and concentration levels are normally the first 2 things to go when fatigue kicks in, the sharpness drops out everything you do, passes get sloppy, following runs takes half a second longer and you start snatching at chances, we're showing every one of the signs you'd expect. The only criticism I can see that has an element of fairness to it is that maybe we should have used some of the kids a little more freely over the last few months and managed the load on a few keys players better but that's hindsight and there's no guarantee it wouldn't have cost us games/points.
But the injuries mean you are putting the burden on fewer players, it wasn’t injuries tonight but it was fatigue. I do not understand why people can not see that.How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Couldn't see the actual deflection and probably won't for another few years, thanks anywayHow the f you can blame Olsen for the defeat,one was a penalty and the other a deflection,
The defeat wasn't his fault, although he played a part in it. He should have saved the deflected goal as the deflection actually took it straight at him. He should have saved the second one too.
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
I’ll bow to the greater wisdom here, but if that is the case then there’s little sense in turning up for the rest of the games isn’t there? The players who might come back have plenty of games too so they’ll be tired. Like I said, I’m sure it’s a factor, but it doesn’t excuse how bad we were tonight.Actually it does.
You're getting my dander up with comments like that !Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
One things for sure that’s the last match thread I’m logging in for 😂I stay away. They can be very toxic.
You're getting my dander up with comments like that !Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
I guess I'm of course upset about the game but I am asking about a health or situation here and you're choosing to make comments!
Not very supportive !
Of course medics are important.
I really not impressed with this comment!
It's actually pretty disgusting.
I have good intentions I'm not forcing you to pray but I will keep this person in my thoughts !
Stop picking on me!!!
You're getting my dander up with comments like that !Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
I guess I'm of course upset about the game but I am asking about a health or situation here and you're choosing to make comments!
Not very supportive !
Of course medics are important.
I really not impressed with this comment!
It's actually pretty disgusting.
I have good intentions I'm not forcing you to pray but I will keep this person in my thoughts !
Stop picking on me!!!
So what’s your assessment of the season so far?
An interesting comment from the commentator, which every one except for me probably knew was that the Olympiacus owner is also the Forest owner.
Strange game. I didnt think we played that badly really and I think an early goal for us would have made it a different outcome. Their pen so soon after we got back into it killed us. Tbe place was rocking and I think they might have wobbled.
Disappointed but we're still in it
Strange game. I didnt think we played that badly really and I think an early goal for us would have made it a different outcome. Their pen so soon after we got back into it killed us. Tbe place was rocking and I think they might have wobbled.
Disappointed but we're still in it
It was so shit from Lenglet in the context of the game, trying to see the ball out when he'd touched it last, dickhead.
Strange game. I didnt think we played that badly really and I think an early goal for us would have made it a different outcome. Their pen so soon after we got back into it killed us. Tbe place was rocking and I think they might have wobbled.
Disappointed but we're still in it
Diasppointed too, but agree with this.
I’ll bow to the greater wisdom here, but if that is the case then there’s little sense in turning up for the rest of the games isn’t there? The players who might come back have plenty of games too so they’ll be tired. Like I said, I’m sure it’s a factor, but it doesn’t excuse how bad we were tonight.Actually it does.
Olympiacos were good, particularly Podence.Podence is the new Nathan Dyer. No matter what kit he's wearing the little ****** seems to turn up and damage us no matter how his season is going.
We had our moments, but looked tired.
Just like we managed to get enough energy against Bournemouth, we can hopefully do that again. But our options are limited because of squad depth and injuries.I’ll bow to the greater wisdom here, but if that is the case then there’s little sense in turning up for the rest of the games isn’t there? The players who might come back have plenty of games too so they’ll be tired. Like I said, I’m sure it’s a factor, but it doesn’t excuse how bad we were tonight.Actually it does.
Not sure it does, but if we continue to deteriorate then I guess you’re right.
Agree. Bonkers.Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
Spot on. I can’t believe, after the way we’ve battled against the odds to achieve what we have so far this season, people are a) surprised we’ve run out of steam, and b) not full of admiration for the players and manager. Disgrace my foot bottom.
Everything that could go wrong did for us tonight. Everything that could go right for Olympiacos did tonight. This will not be repeated.
Let’s see what happens next week. We are going there to win no ifs no buts.
Garbage again. Olympiakos are nothing special, I am at a loss to understand how we screwed that up quite so royally.
As has been said, I think if we'd just been one down after tonight, we would have had a reasonable chance. They have shipped plenty of goals in Europe this season.Because he can’t referee the other semi I guess.
Luiz has been poor for a while, and tonight summed up his recent form, which was very costly.
When we played at pace, they struggled, but they were happy with our slower deliberate moves.
The referee wasn't great. Easy to say after losing, but why do we get an Italian referee when the other semi features an Italian team?
Agree. Bonkers.Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
Spot on. I can’t believe, after the way we’ve battled against the odds to achieve what we have so far this season, people are a) surprised we’ve run out of steam, and b) not full of admiration for the players and manager. Disgrace my foot bottom.
As I said before taken Footy’s crown. Long live the king
Agree. Bonkers.Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Nobody disgraced themselves, please stop talking utter shite.
Spot on. I can’t believe, after the way we’ve battled against the odds to achieve what we have so far this season, people are a) surprised we’ve run out of steam, and b) not full of admiration for the players and manager. Disgrace my foot bottom.
As I said before taken Footy’s crown. Long live the king
He wears it like a badge of honor, which is the funniest part!
Garbage again. Olympiakos are nothing special, I am at a loss to understand how we screwed that up quite so royally.
Any update on the fan that required medical attention?
We did that twice. Stupid fucksStrange game. I didnt think we played that badly really and I think an early goal for us would have made it a different outcome. Their pen so soon after we got back into it killed us. Tbe place was rocking and I think they might have wobbled.
Disappointed but we're still in it
It was so shit from Lenglet in the context of the game, trying to see the ball out when he'd touched it last, dickhead.
Any update on the fan that required medical attention?
Was told it was a 24yr old. Hope all is well.
Next time we complain about Premier refs just remember some of the clowns we have had in this comp, tonights was the worst.
We have simply ran out of players and gas. We look shattered and its making us make poor mistakes that it seems everyone is being punished.
We have had a fantastic season (and I agree thist tie still has some twists to it) so let's not complain too much.
4 years ago we was going nowhere in the championship other than possibly out of business. We will learn and become stronger
I hope the players are pissed off with the game and their performance tonight and want to put it right, but no way should they feel shame, be called bottlers etc. It's them that have turned us from a relegation threatened piss poor side to a side that's clear in 4th and in a European semi final. A few dodgy games at the end of an injury plagued and still successful season doesn't change that.
This.
Its not just tonight though. We fell apart 2nd half against chelsea and almost lost the game.
Injuries are nit helping we know that but somwtimes you have to give some youngsters a chance to breed some energy. He is rarely used kesler or kellyman for example.
Honestly thwy should be embarrassed by that performance. They masisveky disgraced themselves tonight ans the fans expected better
Any update on the fan that required medical attention?
Another Emi pen masterclass coming up 😎.
So is this Gaucci coming in ?
It must be Saturday as have a strong feeling he's going to be involved in match and wasn't today
So is this Gaucci coming in ?
It must be Saturday as have a strong feeling he's going to be involved in match and wasn't today
How on Earth though do you legislate for the amount of injuries we’ve had? Look at our bench tonight…..We don’t have the luxury of a big squad. To be where we are is incredible even though things have been incredibly disappointing of late. During the match threads feelings are magnified and that’s why things seem so bad.
Spot on.
The season overall has been fantastic, but whilst injuries are a factor they are not an excuse for tonight’s performance. Or to put it another way, would any of the Olympiacos players get in front of the Villa starting 11 tonight? Maybe I’m ill informed but I don’t think so. The season has been brilliant, but injuries or not tonight was dreadful.
Isn’t it just the season taking its toll? Injuries, suspensions and generally running out of steam. Luck not quite on our side too? It’s happening at Liverpool who have far more resources than us.
At times tonight going forward we looked excellent but whenever they attacked we looked vulnerable and very disjointed and lacking in confidence, which sums up what I said above.
If that is the case we may as well not turn up next week, because it won’t get easier. I just think it’s a bit of an easy out to say it’s down to injuries, resources etc. I don’t doubt it’s an influencing factor, and I’ve no idea how many games Olympiacos have played but I imagine it’s plenty. The team we had out tonight should have been much better, but they underperformed. They have a chance to fix it, but it was dreadful tonight and that team should have coped better.
Gutted
Biggest issue was in the middle of the park but considering both kamara and youri are out we had no options there at all and both doug and sjm looked fucked tonight for whatever reason. We were bullied there, they won all the second balls they punted up and so often both those two were the wrong side of the ball.
We had no luck at all, denied a clear penalty which was a critical point in the match and the 4th crushed us in all honesty.
The step down from pau to lenglet is dramatic, digne needs a rest and cash does affect things positively but defensively isn't the smartest.
The refs in this competition have been a joke, trying to stamp their mark on the game with big gestures and having little to no control on the game.
Olympiacos have an excellent coach it has to be said, and he did a number on us tonight.
I don't think we played that badly but we looked nervous or hesitant from the start. A 2-4 scoreline flatters them. Everything that could go their way did & where it didn't the ref ignored it.Gifting shit goals seams to be our default recently.
The penalty miss is crucial, a 1 goal deficit & we have a good chance, but 2 goals seems too much given our inability to keep clean sheets.
And on the plus side, all the "Champions League qualification is more important" crowd will be thrilled with how this evening has gone.
Not really necessary, no?
Why? The more important thing is more likely now than it was two hours ago. We're a bit closer to the thing that matters.
I think so. Do you want to bet against us?
Brilliant save to deny Rogers, and then a stupid shirt pull by Langlet stopped us from going in front. That could have changed the whole nature of the game.
I thought their celebrations at full time were well over the top as well.
Brilliant save to deny Rogers, and then a stupid shirt pull by Langlet stopped us from going in front. That could have changed the whole nature of the game.
We were on top.when we got it back to.2-2 and I thought we were going to run away with it at the point. Only for that corrupt tw@t in yellow to hand the momentum straight back to them.
Brilliant save to deny Rogers, and then a stupid shirt pull by Langlet stopped us from going in front. That could have changed the whole nature of the game.
We were on top.when we got it back to.2-2 and I thought we were going to run away with it at the point. Only for that corrupt tw@t in yellow to hand the momentum straight back to them.
He was undeniably shit, but their pen at 2-2 was the correct decision IMO.
Car crash of a performance. Everything we could do wrong we did. No composure. Spewing goals at home again. The better team won. Worst performance of the season.
Car crash of a performance. Everything we could do wrong we did. No composure. Spewing goals at home again. The better team won. Worst performance of the season.
Just as well you're not one to overreact.
Car crash of a performance. Everything we could do wrong we did. No composure. Spewing goals at home again. The better team won. Worst performance of the season.
Just as well you're not one to overreact.
We were shit.
That performance was like watching a train crash in slow motion. Truly hideous.
I hope the players are pissed off with the game and their performance tonight and want to put it right, but no way should they feel shame, be called bottlers etc. It's them that have turned us from a relegation threatened piss poor side to a side that's clear in 4th and in a European semi final. A few dodgy games at the end of an injury plagued and still successful season doesn't change that.I want a trophy. That's what matters, not getting battered against shit teams from other countries every fortnight.
Well that was a huge pile of donkey 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'. The ridiculous thing is we didn’t play that badly all told but we were exceptionally sloppy with the ball at times both offensively and defensively. We seemed to get utterly terrified of their press and certain players seemed to have no confidence in playing the ball around. Scores on the doors
Olsen - 6 did ok but his lack of a longer pass to Cash or Digne didn’t help in us beating the press, I didn’t think he could have done better with any of the goals.
Cash - 7 played well tonight both up and down the pitch.
Konsa -3 I thought he was terrible tonight, unsure in posesssion bullied by their front men and seemed to shit his pants every time he got pressed.
Lenglet - 6 I thought he did ok tonight was progressive with the ball.
Digne - 6 played ok gotmforward but delivery wasn’t great
McGinn - 5 not the best of nights with several
Wayward passes and losses of possession.
Luiz - 3 had a stinker, missed a penalty, got an on pitch bollocking from Unai. In poor form.
Rogers - 5 a real in and out game for Morgan, disappeared for bits then some lovely surging runs
Diaby - 7.5 gets my MOTM, sharp incisive and his goal was superb. Linked well with Bailey.
Bailey - 6 not one of Leon’s vintage games as he ran down a few too many blind alleys but was generally ok.
Watkins - 6.5 no service so was feeding on scraps but another great goal.
Unai - 6 thought he needed to change the approach on their press as it caused us problems all night.
We’re still in this imv. I didn’t think much of them tbh, neat tidy and well organised but they just capitalised on our lack of precise play. I’ll be intrigued to see how they approach the second leg and if we play Martinez, Pau and Tielemans how they cope with a stronger Villa team.
I thought their celebrations at full time were well over the top as well.
Anyway with no away goals rule anymore, we have to believe we can go and get a result.
Onwards…../
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Villa and Spurs doing what they do best on the same night.I was joking with my dad before the game that if us & Spurs run true to form, we would both lose every game remaining this season.
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
I hope it’s good enough.
Any update on the fan that required medical attention?
Any update on the fan that required medical attention?
Doing OK apparently, sat up in bed at hospital awaiting test results, life saved by a female fan by all accounts.
Good news on the fan.
Without Emi, Pau and Kamara we looks like Gerrard’s Villa rather than Unai’s. Very frustrating evening, as we won’t get an ‘easier’ chance to win a european trophy.
Last night showed that we need far better players next season if we want to continue battling for a top 4 position in the league and be competitive in either the Champions League or Europa league.
Hopefully Unai, will have a plan in the summer to get at least 4 players in the summer that can improve our 1st 11.
Good news on the fan.
Without Emi, Pau and Kamara we looks like Gerrard’s Villa rather than Unai’s. Very frustrating evening, as we won’t get an ‘easier’ chance to win a european trophy.
We don’t and didn’t.
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
I hope it’s good enough.
You support posts about violence ? Ive never even spoken once to you in this forum so not sure why you are coming at me and supporting ignorabt posts like that
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
I hope it’s good enough.
You support posts about violence ? Ive never even spoken once to you in this forum so not sure why you are coming at me and supporting ignorabt posts like that
I meant I hope he’s done enough to get banned.
Last night showed that we need far better players next season if we want to continue battling for a top 4 position in the league and be competitive in either the Champions League or Europa league.
Hopefully Unai, will have a plan in the summer to get at least 4 players in the summer that can improve our 1st 11.
Labelling last night a Gerrard type performance is just nonsense.It was a knackered type performance.
No we didn't. We really didn't.
Without Emi, Pau and Kamara we looks like Gerrard’s Villa rather than Unai’s.
I thought there were pretty fine margins. We were nowhere near our best or our worst. Everything fell their way, the ref didn’t seem to like us and they looked like the best side we’ve faced in the competition.
Probably left ourselves too much to do but you never know, depends if we score first.
I still find it strange that Diego Carlos, after a man-of-the match performance in that epic win at Arsenal, has been largely ignored by UE. Him and Pau Torres playing last night and the defence looks stronger. The both have a lot of experience in Europe.
Good news on the fan.
Without Emi, Pau and Kamara we looks like Gerrard’s Villa rather than Unai’s. Very frustrating evening, as we won’t get an ‘easier’ chance to win a european trophy.
We don’t and didn’t.
We did and we won’t.
Without those three we have no control over possession or calmnes on the ball. Add to this the tried and tested midfield of SJM and Doug that doesnt work.
And if you think the CL or even the Europa League, are easier to win than the conference then I’m not sure how much european football you’ve watched.
On another night we could have scored 8 and they barely went in our half in the second half, but got the pen (not sure what Dougie was thinking) and big deflection.
Would be lovely if we could somehow beat Brighton and Liverpool win, so we can go all out in the second leg to claw it back.
Seems very unlikely that we'll get through now though.
Shout out to Cash, who was far and away our best defender tonight. Hope Diaby gets some confidence from his goal and assist.
Of course it is and we are going to need to improve the squad depth and quality and be a lot luckier with injuries.On another night we could have scored 8 and they barely went in our half in the second half, but got the pen (not sure what Dougie was thinking) and big deflection.
Would be lovely if we could somehow beat Brighton and Liverpool win, so we can go all out in the second leg to claw it back.
Seems very unlikely that we'll get through now though.
Shout out to Cash, who was far and away our best defender tonight. Hope Diaby gets some confidence from his goal and assist.
I dont know if i agree with that mate to be honest. On that performance i dont think we would ahve ever scored 8. We had a good 5 mins when we scored towards end of half then as soon as we equalised we literally shot ourselves in both feet and handed olympiakos the victory. The performance was really poor collectively
Its going to have to be 10x better than that if we have aspirations to go through
When you look at our squad and value in comparison to theirs its embarrassing how much better and easier they made it look to us. We can all say we are tired but if you think this is bad whats it gonna be like in CL?? Its gonna be significantly more difficult than the conference league
And by the way I know you can’t foresee these things but Dougie would ordinarily have waited his turn from suspension had Tielemans not got injured.
It’s been a long time since I was so disappointed by a result, everything went against us but when we are bad we seem to concede far more than our performances deserve.Agree with all of that.
We were well on top but found ourselves two down, the second looked offside to me but there you go, the offside trap is high risk and that’s the breaks.
I think they surprised us with how many men they committed forward and how much energy they had all over the field, it sounds like sour grapes but I didn’t think they were any good but they did work very hard with and without the ball.
After getting back to 2-2 the penalty killed us, it seemed to suck the little energy left out of the players and crowd alike. There were many instances of mental tiredness, stupid unforced errors we just weren’t making earlier in the season, Ollie running the ball out a few times, SJM and Dug giving the ball to them on the edge of our area.
Something not mentioned which really annoyed me, Diaby getting sucked into that argument before our penalty, all it achieved was making us wait to take it. Brainless.
I think they only 4 shots all game. Their CF scored a hat trick and I don’t know if he’s any good as he didn’t touch the ball other than whacking it into our net three times.
Seems a brilliant opportunity wasted. The season has caught us up and we haven’t got the bodies to change things up.
It’s been a long time since I was so disappointed by a result, everything went against us but when we are bad we seem to concede far more than our performances deserve.
We were well on top but found ourselves two down, the second looked offside to me but there you go, the offside trap is high risk and that’s the breaks.
I think they surprised us with how many men they committed forward and how much energy they had all over the field, it sounds like sour grapes but I didn’t think they were any good but they did work very hard with and without the ball.
After getting back to 2-2 the penalty killed us, it seemed to suck the little energy left out of the players and crowd alike. There were many instances of mental tiredness, stupid unforced errors we just weren’t making earlier in the season, Ollie running the ball out a few times, SJM and Dug giving the ball to them on the edge of our area.
Something not mentioned which really annoyed me, Diaby getting sucked into that argument before our penalty, all it achieved was making us wait to take it. Brainless.
I think they only 4 shots all game. Their CF scored a hat trick and I don’t know if he’s any good as he didn’t touch the ball other than whacking it into our net three times.
Seems a brilliant opportunity wasted. The season has caught us up and we haven’t got the bodies to change things up.
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
If there was an award for fans turning on each other we'd win it hands down. That altercation in the UH was something else, they all shook hands on the concourse at HT mind. As my mate said, we were better behaved when we went down!He looked petrified taking that pen.
I'm seriously worried about Doug now, he was off it from KO last night. I'm hoping the missed pen is a watershed and he returns to form on Sunday but I am fearful that he's done for the season. The standard he's set over the last 12 months or so is very hard to live up to week in week out.
Of course it is and we are going to need to improve the squad depth and quality and be a lot luckier with injuries.On another night we could have scored 8 and they barely went in our half in the second half, but got the pen (not sure what Dougie was thinking) and big deflection.
Would be lovely if we could somehow beat Brighton and Liverpool win, so we can go all out in the second leg to claw it back.
Seems very unlikely that we'll get through now though.
Shout out to Cash, who was far and away our best defender tonight. Hope Diaby gets some confidence from his goal and assist.
I dont know if i agree with that mate to be honest. On that performance i dont think we would ahve ever scored 8. We had a good 5 mins when we scored towards end of half then as soon as we equalised we literally shot ourselves in both feet and handed olympiakos the victory. The performance was really poor collectively
Its going to have to be 10x better than that if we have aspirations to go through
When you look at our squad and value in comparison to theirs its embarrassing how much better and easier they made it look to us. We can all say we are tired but if you think this is bad whats it gonna be like in CL?? Its gonna be significantly more difficult than the conference league
Adding Mings Kamara Ramsey Buendia will be a pretty good start.
I think we played a better side in the previous round.It’s been a long time since I was so disappointed by a result, everything went against us but when we are bad we seem to concede far more than our performances deserve.
We were well on top but found ourselves two down, the second looked offside to me but there you go, the offside trap is high risk and that’s the breaks.
I think they surprised us with how many men they committed forward and how much energy they had all over the field, it sounds like sour grapes but I didn’t think they were any good but they did work very hard with and without the ball.
After getting back to 2-2 the penalty killed us, it seemed to suck the little energy left out of the players and crowd alike. There were many instances of mental tiredness, stupid unforced errors we just weren’t making earlier in the season, Ollie running the ball out a few times, SJM and Dug giving the ball to them on the edge of our area.
Something not mentioned which really annoyed me, Diaby getting sucked into that argument before our penalty, all it achieved was making us wait to take it. Brainless.
I think they only 4 shots all game. Their CF scored a hat trick and I don’t know if he’s any good as he didn’t touch the ball other than whacking it into our net three times.
Seems a brilliant opportunity wasted. The season has caught us up and we haven’t got the bodies to change things up.
That’s a very good post.
Not helped by Diaby getting brainlessly involved in pushing and shoving which was obviously a ploy to put off the penalty taker. Fucking hell Diaby just walk away from him! These kind of dirty tricks are par for the course in Europe. He/they had better learn. Fast.If there was an award for fans turning on each other we'd win it hands down. That altercation in the UH was something else, they all shook hands on the concourse at HT mind. As my mate said, we were better behaved when we went down!He looked petrified taking that pen.
I'm seriously worried about Doug now, he was off it from KO last night. I'm hoping the missed pen is a watershed and he returns to form on Sunday but I am fearful that he's done for the season. The standard he's set over the last 12 months or so is very hard to live up to week in week out.
Or one could just show a bit of respect for other people's beliefs. All he wrote was thoughts and prayers, hardly opening a theological debate. On the game, it was a comedy of errors at the back as it has been for a few weeks now. We'll do them in the second leg though. Top four and a trophy is still very much on.Yes, you are right when you take a post in isolation. I have every for respect for other people's beliefs as long as they keep them to themselves and air them in appropriate places, like their own homes, places or worship or theology seminars and the like. I'm not sure a public forum is the right place to be praising deities and trying to foist religious moral standards upon us.
After a nightmare journey back last night, just able to post now.
Awful, Doug played worst I have seen him since the SG days. Olsen playing put fear of God into our defence, they looked so nervy - so many mis-placed passes. They did surprise us the way they went for it esp 1st half.
Bad day at the office all round, hopefully Martínez, Pau Torres and Tielemans will be back this weekend.
If there was an award for fans turning on each other we'd win it hands down. That altercation in the UH was something else, they all shook hands on the concourse at HT mind. As my mate said, we were better behaved when we went down!He looked petrified taking that pen.
I'm seriously worried about Doug now, he was off it from KO last night. I'm hoping the missed pen is a watershed and he returns to form on Sunday but I am fearful that he's done for the season. The standard he's set over the last 12 months or so is very hard to live up to week in week out.
After a nightmare journey back last night, just able to post now.
Awful, Doug played worst I have seen him since the SG days. Olsen playing put fear of God into our defence, they looked so nervy - so many mis-placed passes. They did surprise us the way they went for it esp 1st half.
Bad day at the office all round, hopefully Martínez, Pau Torres and Tielemans will be back this weekend.
Honestly id rather save all three for Thursday night.
Give gauci a start vs brighton. Id do lenglet and carlos at cb with konsa on bench.
Get timmy in there give him a start and lets just see how it goes
The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
Leon’s goal was chalked off for Lenglet pulling their player’s shirt. When it’s so blatant it’s always going to get ruled out.
Or one could just show a bit of respect for other people's beliefs. All he wrote was thoughts and prayers, hardly opening a theological debate. On the game, it was a comedy of errors at the back as it has been for a few weeks now. We'll do them in the second leg though. Top four and a trophy is still very much on.Yes, you are right when you take a post in isolation. I have every for respect for other people's beliefs as long as they keep them to themselves and air them in appropriate places, like their own homes, places or worship or theology seminars and the like. I'm not sure a public forum is the right place to be praising deities and trying to foist religious moral standards upon us.
Allons enfant de la patriiiiiii-e....I have 1901 tattooed on my knob
I have him blocked so I may not have seen any others of a similar theme, if there are any.Me too but I'm often on the mobile skin. :-(
The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
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Wow, 100% No. Prem and securing 4th is the absolute priority, a win Sunday would all but secure Champions League Football .After a nightmare journey back last night, just able to post now.
Awful, Doug played worst I have seen him since the SG days. Olsen playing put fear of God into our defence, they looked so nervy - so many mis-placed passes. They did surprise us the way they went for it esp 1st half.
Bad day at the office all round, hopefully Martínez, Pau Torres and Tielemans will be back this weekend.
Honestly id rather save all three for Thursday night.
Give gauci a start vs brighton. Id do lenglet and carlos at cb with konsa on bench.
Get timmy in there give him a start and lets just see how it goes
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
HERE HERE
Oh dear
Why?The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
It was a stonewall pen but irrelevant as it turned out.
Why?The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
It was a stonewall pen but irrelevant as it turned out.
Why?The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
It was a stonewall pen but irrelevant as it turned out.
Saka planted his leg where he knew there would be contact. Bailey did no such thing. Their player just deliberately entagled his legs with Bailey and he consequently brought him down. Blatant pen for me.The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
I saw it as exactly the same as the Saka one against Bayern. Checking the run slightly to make sure that contact happens.
The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
I saw it as exactly the same as the Saka one against Bayern. Checking the run slightly to make sure that contact happens.
The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
I saw it as exactly the same as the Saka one against Bayern. Checking the run slightly to make sure that contact happens.
Thought the same watching the replay. Not as blatant as the Saka one but Bailey made sure he got the contact all the same. What was his goal disallowed for?
Conceding straight after equalising, conceding a flukey deflection and missing a penalty are three of the worst gut punches you can face and we had all three in one half. I really thought we were set for a grand stand finish when Diaby scored.
At the time I thought Doug should have given the penalty to Watkins, he'd had a poor game and I don't think he was in the right place psychologically to take it. Ollie had one chance earlier and buried it, sometimes there needs to be some common sense in these situations.
At last we know what we have to do in the second leg. If we get the first goal we have a chance.
At the time I thought Doug should have given the penalty to Watkins, he'd had a poor game and I don't think he was in the right place psychologically to take it. Ollie had one chance earlier and buried it, sometimes there needs to be some common sense in these situations.
Positives for sure where the 2 goals scored.
Watkins and Diaby finishing was superb!
Seemed a bit over run in midfield areas in transition however another day Villa score several more.
Prayers and thoughts to the supporter who was taken to hospital I hope that they will be ok.
Does anyone have any info or knowledge on this.
God bless them.
That's the most important thing tonight the welfare of supporter
Medical attention will almost certainly be more useful than prayers.
Mods….. what the rules for getting me banned again. I can’t read the absolute bollocks that comes out of the mouths of Risso,Demitri C and Paulie. What a bunch of pricks. At least DC is only annoying the other two are just Cs. If they spoke to people the way they do on here the other side of a keyboard they’d be seeking medical assistance pretty urgently.
Is that good enough?
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Oh dear
Made the absolutely fundamental error of being on a match thread for a match which is going badly and not realising what those conditions are like.
A bit like going to judging the state of British democracy by watching PMQs in the Johnson - Corbyn era.
Wow, 100% No. Prem and securing 4th is the absolute priority, a win Sunday would all but secure Champions League Football .After a nightmare journey back last night, just able to post now.
Awful, Doug played worst I have seen him since the SG days. Olsen playing put fear of God into our defence, they looked so nervy - so many mis-placed passes. They did surprise us the way they went for it esp 1st half.
Bad day at the office all round, hopefully Martínez, Pau Torres and Tielemans will be back this weekend.
Honestly id rather save all three for Thursday night.
Give gauci a start vs brighton. Id do lenglet and carlos at cb with konsa on bench.
Get timmy in there give him a start and lets just see how it goes
Conceding straight after equalising, conceding a flukey deflection and missing a penalty are three of the worst gut punches you can face and we had all three in one half. I really thought we were set for a grand stand finish when Diaby scored.
At the time I thought Doug should have given the penalty to Watkins, he'd had a poor game and I don't think he was in the right place psychologically to take it. Ollie had one chance earlier and buried it, sometimes there needs to be some common sense in these situations.
At last we know what we have to do in the second leg. If we get the first goal we have a chance.
Agree with all that, had a feeling he'd miss the penalty after the delay.
I said last night coming out of the ground that if you play that game 100 times, we’d end up losing by two goals in one or two of them. I guess that doesn’t really matter - we have to accept the score and deal with it, but I think it does give some cause for optimism.
McGinn said that everything that could go wrong did go wrong, and I think that’s a pretty accurate way of describing it. It wasn’t just the fact that so many of our players looked off it, or the fact that everything they hit flew into the net, or the refereeing decisions, or the missed penalty - even the little details went against us. Our players kept losing their footing, every ricochet bounced kindly into their path - just every little detail went in their favour.
In the build up to the second goal, one of their players attempted a flick back to the guy that had passed it to him. It was awful - nowhere near the intended target, but rolled right into the path of a different teammate. Stuff like that was happening all game.
You do make your own luck, though, and the fact that they were more committed and energetic than us does explain some of this. I’m not making excuses for the result - they deserve to be ahead because they scored more goals than us - but I think there is plenty to be hopeful for the next leg. Last night was a perfect storm of things going to shit (a perfect shit storm?). That won’t happen next week.
Lille outplayed us over two legs and we managed to get through. Olympiakos have outscored us in one leg, but they don’t appear to have the same quality. We may be able to use their crowd against them next week, if we get off to a good start.
We look (understandably) knackered. But the players need to find something for the next 7 days. Two convincing wins will change everything, and I know that they are capable of producing that. With players coming back from injury/suspension/rest(?) the team will be stronger next week. And things won’t go as badly as they did last night. That sort of stuff just doesn’t happen twice in a week.
We’re up against it, for sure, and it’s not going to be easy, but if we can win on Sunday, that would be a massive, and potentially decisive, step into fulfilling our league objectives. The psychological boost that will give us is massive - being able to turn our full attention to the cup could lift a huge burden off their shoulders. It's another huge week. (Remember all the times our season was basically over by March?!)
It’s far from over.
After going to bed last night feeling pretty disconsolate, I’m strangely optimistic about the return leg now. Score in the first 20 minutes and I think they’ll be there for the taking.
It was never a pen. Bailey did a Richard Burton and deserves the Oscar .The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
I saw it as exactly the same as the Saka one against Bayern. Checking the run slightly to make sure that contact happens.
Thought the same watching the replay. Not as blatant as the Saka one but Bailey made sure he got the contact all the same. What was his goal disallowed for?
I think one or two of our players looked a little. overawed by it, Rogers as an example, and that's no suprise given his age and lack of experience etc. But grew into it too.
We just didn't pass well, they anticipated a lot of our passing play and made us look really bad at times. I can't see it being so bad again next week.
We were at the game ... my dad commented about the kits looking very similar too.I think one or two of our players looked a little. overawed by it, Rogers as an example, and that's no suprise given his age and lack of experience etc. But grew into it too.
We just didn't pass well, they anticipated a lot of our passing play and made us look really bad at times. I can't see it being so bad again next week.
My mate text me who was watching it on the box , and mentioned the Olympiacos kit clashing with ours. Didn't see it myself , might be clutching at straws , but would explain McGinn passing directly to their players 5 or 6 times last night ! I just think we played poor , they made their own luck. Feel a little more positive today than leaving the ground last night. A massive task , but not unacheivable.
Brilliant save to deny Rogers, and then a stupid shirt pull by Langlet stopped us from going in front. That could have changed the whole nature of the game.Absolutely mate. I just couldn't believe that Lenglet let the ball roll out for a corner. He'd obviously played the ball last.
The stonewall pen on Bailey was irrelevant as it was 1-2 straight away anyway. If we’d have got the pen, the game changes and we don’t get the Watkins goal. I’m watching the highlights show and it’s just silly of the pundits to moan about this as if it affected the game.
Langlet letting the ball run out when he knew it was rightfully a corner was the most stupid and costly mistake of the game I think. Threw away a brilliant comeback.
Olsen should have saved the fourth, and our players shouldn’t have helped them delay Dougie on our pen.
Just watched the highlights again, to be on the wrong side of ALL of the marginal refereeing calls is very unfortunate, even with our penalty, I didn't see at the game but their player has to bring down Duran after handing the ball twice before we get the call.
Also didn't notice that it hit the post rather than being well wide.
Of the officiating, the instance that caused me to really lose my shit was first half when they had a free kick, took it, and four of their players in a line with me were offside, lino keeps flag down and they get a corner. Incompetence or corruption?
After a nightmare journey back last night, just able to post now.
Awful, Doug played worst I have seen him since the SG days. Olsen playing put fear of God into our defence, they looked so nervy - so many mis-placed passes. They did surprise us the way they went for it esp 1st half.
Bad day at the office all round, hopefully Martínez, Pau Torres and Tielemans will be back this weekend.
Honestly id rather save all three for Thursday night.
Give gauci a start vs brighton. Id do lenglet and carlos at cb with konsa on bench.
Get timmy in there give him a start and lets just see how it goes
I don’t think we can afford to take any chances we don’t need to with CL qualification. It’s what the owners and many of us fans see as success these days.
After a nightmare journey back last night, just able to post now.
Awful, Doug played worst I have seen him since the SG days. Olsen playing put fear of God into our defence, they looked so nervy - so many mis-placed passes. They did surprise us the way they went for it esp 1st half.
Bad day at the office all round, hopefully Martínez, Pau Torres and Tielemans will be back this weekend.
Honestly id rather save all three for Thursday night.
Give gauci a start vs brighton. Id do lenglet and carlos at cb with konsa on bench.
Get timmy in there give him a start and lets just see how it goes
I don’t think we can afford to take any chances we don’t need to with CL qualification. It’s what the owners and many of us fans see as success these days.
Yeah, they are thinking longer term and financial impact.
We were at the game ... my dad commented about the kits looking very similar too.I think one or two of our players looked a little. overawed by it, Rogers as an example, and that's no suprise given his age and lack of experience etc. But grew into it too.
We just didn't pass well, they anticipated a lot of our passing play and made us look really bad at times. I can't see it being so bad again next week.
My mate text me who was watching it on the box , and mentioned the Olympiacos kit clashing with ours. Didn't see it myself , might be clutching at straws , but would explain McGinn passing directly to their players 5 or 6 times last night ! I just think we played poor , they made their own luck. Feel a little more positive today than leaving the ground last night. A massive task , but not unacheivable.
Good to hear.Any update on the fan that required medical attention?
When we came back up the steward said he was ok. He wasn’t in a good way but the fan who gave him CPR said she was a paramedic. Hats off to her as she was fantastic.
The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
I saw it as exactly the same as the Saka one against Bayern. Checking the run slightly to make sure that contact happens.
Thought the same watching the replay. Not as blatant as the Saka one but Bailey made sure he got the contact all the same. What was his goal disallowed for?
We were at the game ... my dad commented about the kits looking very similar too.I think one or two of our players looked a little. overawed by it, Rogers as an example, and that's no suprise given his age and lack of experience etc. But grew into it too.
We just didn't pass well, they anticipated a lot of our passing play and made us look really bad at times. I can't see it being so bad again next week.
My mate text me who was watching it on the box , and mentioned the Olympiacos kit clashing with ours. Didn't see it myself , might be clutching at straws , but would explain McGinn passing directly to their players 5 or 6 times last night ! I just think we played poor , they made their own luck. Feel a little more positive today than leaving the ground last night. A massive task , but not unacheivable.
Leon’s goal was chalked off for Lenglet pulling their player’s shirt. When it’s so blatant it’s always going to get ruled out.
Time to get those prayer mats out.
Leon’s goal was chalked off for Lenglet pulling their player’s shirt. When it’s so blatant it’s always going to get ruled out.
It is a weird one being as the players whose shirt was being tugged fell forward and away from Lenglet. It was an on-field call wasn't it? I don't think VAR would have over-ruled it if the goal was given.
Leon’s goal was chalked off for Lenglet pulling their player’s shirt. When it’s so blatant it’s always going to get ruled out.
It is a weird one being as the players whose shirt was being tugged fell forward and away from Lenglet. It was an on-field call wasn't it? I don't think VAR would have over-ruled it if the goal was given.
That's exactly how I saw it. The difference of opinions on here just goes to show how subjective these things are.The non penalty for the challenge on Bailey has to be seen to be believed. That was as blatant as it gets. They disallow our goal for a slight tug on a shirt and they fail to give that pen. Is it anti PL bias or is it just plain old incompetence?
I saw it as exactly the same as the Saka one against Bayern. Checking the run slightly to make sure that contact happens.
Thought the same watching the replay. Not as blatant as the Saka one but Bailey made sure he got the contact all the same. What was his goal disallowed for?
The most unnatural thing about it from either player was the way the defender clipped the ball and then lifted his heel much higher than normal between Baileys legs before stepping quite wide as jis foot came down to give Bailey nowhere to go. Whether Bailey was trying to go down or not I don't think he actually had much choice. It was a clear foul and absolutely intentional from the defender because he knew Bailey was getting a shot off otherwise.
I personally dont thinkwe will get any decisions in aaay leg so we just need to score the goals and outplay them so the ref factor isnt a option.Apparently it's the same ref over there. We're going to have to batter them if that's true because we won't be getting any favours.
But i must say the referring performance last night was abysmal. Seriously awful
I personally dont thinkwe will get any decisions in aaay leg so we just need to score the goals and outplay them so the ref factor isnt a option.Apparently it's the same ref over there. We're going to have to batter them if that's true because we won't be getting any favours.
But i must say the referring performance last night was abysmal. Seriously awful
Leon’s goal was chalked off for Lenglet pulling their player’s shirt. When it’s so blatant it’s always going to get ruled out.
It is a weird one being as the players whose shirt was being tugged fell forward and away from Lenglet. It was an on-field call wasn't it? I don't think VAR would have over-ruled it if the goal was given.
I think even the most incompetent VAR team are always going to give that as a foul. They have to justify their existence, and the pulling of a shirt is a very noticeable action, and less easy to brush off than just a nudge in the back or whatever.
Apparently it's the same ref over there. We're going to have to batter them if that's true because we won't be getting any favours.
Apparently it's the same ref over there. We're going to have to batter them if that's true because we won't be getting any favours.
Strange that they had an English ref squad for one semi-final and an Italian one for the other. I would have thought it would have been ones from any other country then the any of the four who were competing just to squash any potential claims of trying to rig the opponents for the final.
No mentions of HIM please.
It was like they were wearing camouflage. Next week in their normal red and white shirts they won’t find it quite so easy to hide in plain sight. Straws being tightly clutched.We were at the game ... my dad commented about the kits looking very similar too.I think one or two of our players looked a little. overawed by it, Rogers as an example, and that's no suprise given his age and lack of experience etc. But grew into it too.
We just didn't pass well, they anticipated a lot of our passing play and made us look really bad at times. I can't see it being so bad again next week.
My mate text me who was watching it on the box , and mentioned the Olympiacos kit clashing with ours. Didn't see it myself , might be clutching at straws , but would explain McGinn passing directly to their players 5 or 6 times last night ! I just think we played poor , they made their own luck. Feel a little more positive today than leaving the ground last night. A massive task , but not unacheivable.
Yep wasn't a great combination. I presume we'll play in our 3rd kit for the away leg.
I personally dont thinkwe will get any decisions in aaay leg so we just need to score the goals and outplay them so the ref factor isnt a option.Apparently it's the same ref over there. We're going to have to batter them if that's true because we won't be getting any favours.
But i must say the referring performance last night was abysmal. Seriously awful
If we're reliant on the referee doing us favours, then we're in difficulty. We don't need him to turn this around.
It’s been a long time since I was so disappointed by a result, everything went against us but when we are bad we seem to concede far more than our performances deserve.Agreed. However, I felt that our starting line-up was too open: we effectively had a 2-man midfield, which is asking too much of McGinn and Luiz at this point in the season and also meant that the front four were a little disconnected from the rest of the team. Add to that the fact that the Greeks came with great attacking intent and it was no surprise that we were 2 down so early on. Having said all that, some of our attacking Was pretty good and should have garnered more than we got.
We were well on top but found ourselves two down, the second looked offside to me but there you go, the offside trap is high risk and that’s the breaks.
I think they surprised us with how many men they committed forward and how much energy they had all over the field, it sounds like sour grapes but I didn’t think they were any good but they did work very hard with and without the ball.
After getting back to 2-2 the penalty killed us, it seemed to suck the little energy left out of the players and crowd alike. There were many instances of mental tiredness, stupid unforced errors we just weren’t making earlier in the season, Ollie running the ball out a few times, SJM and Dug giving the ball to them on the edge of our area.
Something not mentioned which really annoyed me, Diaby getting sucked into that argument before our penalty, all it achieved was making us wait to take it. Brainless.
I think they only 4 shots all game. Their CF scored a hat trick and I don’t know if he’s any good as he didn’t touch the ball other than whacking it into our net three times.
Seems a brilliant opportunity wasted. The season has caught us up and we haven’t got the bodies to change things up.
Anyone else see that small gang of female pickpockets by Witton Island at the end of the game?
If we're reliant on the referee doing us favours, then we're in difficulty. We don't need him to turn this around.
A bit of route one might help too.
Olympiacos conceded 14 goals in their Europa League games and then another 10 in their 5 knock-out games.
Admittedly, they have obviously scored a few, but it's clear where their weakness lies and it was clear last night as well. When we exerted some pace and more impetus into the game they struggled and the keeper isn't good on crosses either. I can't fathom why we played without that energy, unless the players are all really burnt out and that penalty took the wind out of our sails.
"Fairly" - there was nothing fair about the c**t. People are saying its the same one for the second leg. If he does that again i honestly think the club should put in a full formal complaint to EUFA about him.If we're reliant on the referee doing us favours, then we're in difficulty. We don't need him to turn this around.
I mean he was fairly pro olympiakos i think we can all see that. You want a strong ref thats going to ref properly and this guy was pretty poor and baised towards them
Anyway, it's going to be that much sweeter when we turn it around next week.
I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
A special mention for the arsehole that lives here on the left with the driveway, who mounted the kerb whilst the pavement was several deep with fans screaming and hurling abuse because he wanted to get on his drive:
(https://i.ibb.co/98YtsQ4/villaknob.png) (https://ibb.co/98YtsQ4)
I gave him a tap on the window and reminded him it was a pavement and not a fucking road. No drop kerb there either, might have a word with the council about that.
I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
Ok fair enough, thanks for confirming. I was bloody screaming penalty at the screen, I thought he waved play on and my stream kept buffering and finally froze when the problems on the edge of the box was going off. I was gutted when the stream resumed. It felt nothing went our way all night.
To be honest it was a bit like the Leicester game under Unai last year. Overall the better side, but four mistakes led directly to four goals being given away. We don't do things by halves, when we stuff up, we do it in style.
The ref did the cross arms action to signal no penalty for the hand balls then he blew up for penalty when Duran went over. We’ll never know if he or VAR would have awarded a penalty for the hand balls.I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
Ok fair enough, thanks for confirming. I was bloody screaming penalty at the screen, I thought he waved play on and my stream kept buffering and finally froze when the problems on the edge of the box was going off. I was gutted when the stream resumed. It felt nothing went our way all night.
When we got to 2-2, I thought we’d win 4 or 5 but we have really lost any kind of solidity defending for a long time. Weird really as it was a real strength in Unai’s first 12 months.
I thought they were very average, no better than Legia, and we’d have beaten them easily earlier in the season.
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
The ref did the cross arms action to signal no penalty for the hand balls then he blew up for penalty when Duran went over. We’ll never know if he or VAR would have awarded a penalty for the hand balls.I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
We've conceded a colossal amount of goals at home since the turn of the year. We really could do with tinkering a little at home because we've been poor at the back 25 goals in 12 home games conceded is a poor showing defensively.We're missing Mings, Moreno (although Digne is responding well to him pushing for a place), Carlos, Torres and Martinez so it didnt surprise me that we shipped some last night.
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
Yeah, I lost my shit at that one...
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
Yeah, I lost my shit at that one...
Yeah that was ridiculous, with Cash (I think) in loads of space on the right.
There was another one in the first half where Bailey? was cynically fouled on the edge of their area. Irish commentator said it was a definite booking, and the ref took his card out but didn't book the player as he was too busy with his spray can.
When we got to 2-2, I thought we’d win 4 or 5 but we have really lost any kind of solidity defending for a long time. Weird really as it was a real strength in Unai’s first 12 months.
I thought they were very average, no better than Legia, and we’d have beaten them easily earlier in the season.
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
Yeah, I lost my shit at that one...
The ref did the cross arms action to signal no penalty for the hand balls then he blew up for penalty when Duran went over. We’ll never know if he or VAR would have awarded a penalty for the hand balls.I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
Ha! I thought so, I can go back to shouting fucking twat at him again!
Put konsa back at right back, drop cash who cannot defend and put pau and Carlos in the middle. It’s gone to shit since Arsenal away defensive wise at least.
Me too. Abysmal refereeing.When we got to 2-2, I thought we’d win 4 or 5 but we have really lost any kind of solidity defending for a long time. Weird really as it was a real strength in Unai’s first 12 months.
I thought they were very average, no better than Legia, and we’d have beaten them easily earlier in the season.
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
Yeah, I lost my shit at that one...
Put konsa back at right back, drop cash who cannot defend and put pau and Carlos in the middle. It’s gone to shit since Arsenal away defensive wise at least.
Yes it's a little strange that Carlos who was magnificent at Arsenal has not started since I believe?
This is why I said a month or so back that we don't want to be playing Olympiacos. The desire for a Greek team to be playing in a final in Athens is huge. We just have to hope they get nervous and blow it. The crowd will be manic inside and outside the stadium.
What last night proved was the quality we’ll need to bring in to compete in whatever competition we are in next season.Starting with 2/3 top notch full backs and a back up keeper that can step into Emi's boot's seamlessly.
We haven’t really played well in Europe at all this season and the ease in how Olympiacos and Lille the round before carved us open is worrying.
I’m sure the club are working on this but it’ll need some real upgrades to allow us to compete.
One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
Only real positive is away goals is no longer a thing. If that were the case I think we’d be finished, as it is we have a small chance if we turn up and perform.
I think the pressure got to us a bit, and hopefully Olympiacos experience something similar at home.
Only real positive is away goals is no longer a thing. If that were the case I think we’d be finished, as it is we have a small chance if we turn up and perform.
I think the pressure got to us a bit, and hopefully Olympiacos experience something similar at home.
I still believe being completely outnumbered in midfield was the key factor. That and spending the first 20 odd minutes playing about at the back. The two combined wasn't Unai's finest hour.
One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.It was mentioned quite a bit on TNT .
What last night proved was the quality we’ll need to bring in to compete in whatever competition we are in next season.Starting with 2/3 top notch full backs and a back up keeper that can step into Emi's boot's seamlessly.
We haven’t really played well in Europe at all this season and the ease in how Olympiacos and Lille the round before carved us open is worrying.
I’m sure the club are working on this but it’ll need some real upgrades to allow us to compete.
The ref did the cross arms action to signal no penalty for the hand balls then he blew up for penalty when Duran went over. We’ll never know if he or VAR would have awarded a penalty for the hand balls.I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
Ha! I thought so, I can go back to shouting fucking twat at him again!
This is the link on a refs blog covering the appointments and how they did. The ones who posted it thought it was soft for the foul from the angles but he definitely indicated no for the handballs.
https://streamin.me/v/73ce809f#google_vignette
One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.It was mentioned quite a bit on TNT .
And the one when Cash was bombing down the right wing and he brought the game back to give us a run of the mill foul just outside our own area. That's just shocking. I'll probably get pelters for this but I do feel like the whole of Europe hates the PL because of our financial clout compared to them. And how popular would it be to have a team from Athens in the final in Athens? I said way back in this thread that we have got to batter these good and proper because we will not be getting any favours.The ref did the cross arms action to signal no penalty for the hand balls then he blew up for penalty when Duran went over. We’ll never know if he or VAR would have awarded a penalty for the hand balls.I know we won the penalty in the end last night because of the foul, but didn't the ref wave play on after the defender practictly caught it with both hands and his thighs right before the foul? I was screaming for hand ball.
My stream started buffering around this point, so I didn't see any replays. I even missed the penalty. It resumed and the ball was in play and the core was still 2-4.
There were two handballs and a foul, it was take your pick which one to award it for.
Did I see the ref wave play on though?
No, I think he pretty well awarded it straight away.
Ha! I thought so, I can go back to shouting fucking twat at him again!
This is the link on a refs blog covering the appointments and how they did. The ones who posted it thought it was soft for the foul from the angles but he definitely indicated no for the handballs.
https://streamin.me/v/73ce809f#google_vignette
He was completely useless. I thought at the time, how can that not be handball afte calling out the one against Dougie.
Even the goal ruled out against us could easily have been given as it’s didn’t really interfere. Another night that’s a goal. The same with their first goal. I don’t think their striker would have had too many complaints if ruled out for offside. Then the decision to pull back play as mentioned earlier by Nick Harper when Bailey was through you just felt the ref was completely one sided.
What a crazy game it was.
I still believe being completely outnumbered in midfield was the key factor. That and spending the first 20 odd minutes playing about at the back. The two combined wasn't Unai's finest hour.Totally. The starting line-up - with 2 midfielders - seemed a bit crazy to me. Playing Tim would have allowed McGinn and Luiz to be 2-3 metres further up the pitch and braking their play down a bit and also picking the 2nd ball (which we were poor at last night).
I still believe being completely outnumbered in midfield was the key factor. That and spending the first 20 odd minutes playing about at the back. The two combined wasn't Unai's finest hour.Totally. The starting line-up - with 2 midfielders - seemed a bit crazy to me. Playing Tim would have allowed McGinn and Luiz to be 2-3 metres further up the pitch and braking their play down a bit and also picking the 2nd ball (which we were poor at last night).
And the lack of intensity from the off meant we were chasing the game.
Makes it even stranger that dendonkar was let go.I think Emery wants that player to be really comfortable on the ball and be pivotal in playing from the back, neither big Tim or Dendonkar seem up to it. Only having two available midfielders is killing us though.
I still believe being completely outnumbered in midfield was the key factor. That and spending the first 20 odd minutes playing about at the back. The two combined wasn't Unai's finest hour.Totally. The starting line-up - with 2 midfielders - seemed a bit crazy to me. Playing Tim would have allowed McGinn and Luiz to be 2-3 metres further up the pitch and braking their play down a bit and also picking the 2nd ball (which we were poor at last night).
And the lack of intensity from the off meant we were chasing the game.
Tim’s not that player though. I’m sure his strengths are more where Dougie would be playing in Kamara is fit.
Perhaps the best indication of the remarkable progress we have made is that so many of the posters on here (and I am one of them ) believe that we can still win this tie.
Perhaps the best indication of the remarkable progress we have made is that so many of the posters on here (and I am one of them ) believe that we can still win this tie.
To an extent but people will always talk themselves into the unlikely being possible. It is possible that we can to turn it round, but to win it outright we need to score a minimum of 3 and then not concede (if that’s all we score). That is a big ask, seeing as we’re not great on keeping clean sheets. It’s doable, but it’s going to take a big improvement in performance.
I firmly believe we'll make the final and haven't had to talk myself into anything.
I firmly believe we'll make the final and haven't had to talk myself into anything.
It wasn’t a pointed comment, it’s just what people sometimes do. I think it was you who said you hadn’t been nervous in a game all season, prior to the second half at Chelsea, so I’ve no doubt you’re always confident about results.
Perhaps the best indication of the remarkable progress we have made is that so many of the posters on here (and I am one of them ) believe that we can still win this tie.
To an extent but people will always talk themselves into the unlikely being possible. It is possible that we can to turn it round, but to win it outright we need to score a minimum of 3 and then not concede (if that’s all we score). That is a big ask, seeing as we’re not great on keeping clean sheets. It’s doable, but it’s going to take a big improvement in performance.
Apologies I will aim to post nothing that doesn’t fit within your parameters of acceptability in future.
He seems far more at home while playing for England a little further forward. I’m not sure Emery trusts him in Kamara’s position. Mind you we’ve spent years looking for that role to be filled and Kamara is so good at it. He’s such a huge loss.I still believe being completely outnumbered in midfield was the key factor. That and spending the first 20 odd minutes playing about at the back. The two combined wasn't Unai's finest hour.Totally. The starting line-up - with 2 midfielders - seemed a bit crazy to me. Playing Tim would have allowed McGinn and Luiz to be 2-3 metres further up the pitch and braking their play down a bit and also picking the 2nd ball (which we were poor at last night).
And the lack of intensity from the off meant we were chasing the game.
Tim’s not that player though. I’m sure his strengths are more where Dougie would be playing in Kamara is fit.
From what we've seen on his season long loan at QPR, he can play both though the DCM position looked to be his preferred. We just need him to keep it simple, break up play, maybe take a few strides forward and pass it to the feet of a more talented attacking player.
Well not really, you can disagree without the condescending tone, “very silly thing to post”. But just for clarity, I wasn’t meaning to upset or insult people - it was an observation that some people will make themselves believe things will turn out ok even if it’s unlikely. I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m not saying it’s what everyone thinks, and I’m not saying it’s a bad thing even if it does happen.
And I think we have a chance but my view is it’s 60/40 in their favour.
I actually didn't think Olsen did too badly tonight, but it does stretch coincidence somewhat that we always concede a billion goals when he's playing.Made me laugh 😂. Slight exaggeration but absolutely get your point.
:) I think he was pretty bad for the second and could have done better for the 4th. He just doesn't inspire confidence, and whenever he concedes a goal he seems to have a look on his face of "oh no it's happening again".I actually didn't think Olsen did too badly tonight, but it does stretch coincidence somewhat that we always concede a billion goals when he's playing.Made me laugh 😂. Slight exaggeration but absolutely get your point.
Did I say that? And again, and just to be explicitly clear, I am not saying it applies to everyone. Some people will think we can win, some people will make themselves believe we can win as we get closer to the game, and some people will think we’re unlikely to win. It’s just how different people view things.
Did I say that? And again, and just to be explicitly clear, I am not saying it applies to everyone. Some people will think we can win, some people will make themselves believe we can win as we get closer to the game, and some people will think we’re unlikely to win. It’s just how different people view things.
As long as they don't talk themselves into it, eh?
I'll leave it there I think.
Isn't a 2 goal lead dangerous (in a bad way).If you're villa...
Did I say that? And again, and just to be explicitly clear, I am not saying it applies to everyone. Some people will think we can win, some people will make themselves believe we can win as we get closer to the game, and some people will think we’re unlikely to win. It’s just how different people view things.
As long as they don't talk themselves into it, eh?
I'll leave it there I think.
I'm no angel myself, but fuck me.
Did I say that? And again, and just to be explicitly clear, I am not saying it applies to everyone. Some people will think we can win, some people will make themselves believe we can win as we get closer to the game, and some people will think we’re unlikely to win. It’s just how different people view things.
As long as they don't talk themselves into it, eh?
I'll leave it there I think.
Did I say that? And again, and just to be explicitly clear, I am not saying it applies to everyone. Some people will think we can win, some people will make themselves believe we can win as we get closer to the game, and some people will think we’re unlikely to win. It’s just how different people view things.
As long as they don't talk themselves into it, eh?
I'll leave it there I think.
Would it be possible for once, just once, for you to have a day off from being a massive wanker to other posters?
I don't think I've ever seen you engage in a friendly discussion with anyone on this site. All I see are snide comments, rude remarks, and attempts to start fights in an empty room. Just lots and lots of smug bullshit.
It's like you trawl through threads itching to make other people feel uncomfortable. I've never understood it. It's a very unpleasant trait.
I'm no angel myself, but fuck me.
One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
I might be biased but one of the best away fans too.
I actually didn't think Olsen did too badly tonight, but it does stretch coincidence somewhat that we always concede a billion goals when he's playing.Made me laugh 😂. Slight exaggeration but absolutely get your point.
When we got to 2-2, I thought we’d win 4 or 5 but we have really lost any kind of solidity defending for a long time. Weird really as it was a real strength in Unai’s first 12 months.
I thought they were very average, no better than Legia, and we’d have beaten them easily earlier in the season.
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
I'm not feeling down at all, I'm with PWS, we're going to do 'em.
Are water companies releasing steroids into drinking water or something? There have been so many niggly little arguments between posters lately.
Are water companies releasing steroids into drinking water or something? There have been so many niggly little arguments between posters lately.
No there fucking hasn't!!!!!
I don't really think heat of the moment is that much of an excuse either. You bunch of ******.
Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
Are water companies releasing steroids into drinking water or something? There have been so many niggly little arguments between posters lately.
Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
Nice to see, but if he cares that much he could always have not left. I was a goalkeeper as a kid and him leaving hit me harder than Yorke, without a doubt.
Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
Nice to see, but if he cares that much he could always have not left. I was a goalkeeper as a kid and him leaving hit me harder than Yorke, without a doubt.
Man U at the peak of their powers came calling as they did with Yorke. We as we have for numerous other players couldn’t provide an environment for sustained success. He can still care deeply even if he addressed his career by leaving us.
He was 27 when he fucked off and he barely played again, fuck him.
He was 27 when he fucked off and he barely played again, fuck him.
Yep, fuck everyone who has ever chosen to leave us when we still want them. Players come and go; I support Aston Villa.
But Bosnich fucking off was tough for me, as a kid.
He was 27 when he fucked off and he barely played again, fuck him.
Yep, fuck everyone who has ever chosen to leave us when we still want them. Players come and go; I support Aston Villa.
But Bosnich fucking off was tough for me, as a kid.
Were you any good as a keeper as a kid? My older brother was a keeper, just Saturday/Sunday stuff, but you need to be a bit tapped. I was a rapid right back, think Kyle Walker but paler and less likely to get his cock out in pubs.
He was 27 when he fucked off and he barely played again, fuck him.
Yep, fuck everyone who has ever chosen to leave us when we still want them. Players come and go; I support Aston Villa.
But Bosnich fucking off was tough for me, as a kid.
Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
Next season David Platt will be seen at VP with a half and half scarf.Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
I thought it was Eamonn Holmes.
Next season David Platt will be seen at VP with a half and half scarf.Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
I thought it was Eamonn Holmes.
Normally I am the same, but I looked who was the referee during the match and guessed it was Italian looking at the name, there were other incidents during the game, I am not into the Eurovision song contest thing but it had vibes of it, you could stick Adele in it and we still wouldn't win, although that was no excuse for the performanceWhen we got to 2-2, I thought we’d win 4 or 5 but we have really lost any kind of solidity defending for a long time. Weird really as it was a real strength in Unai’s first 12 months.
I thought they were very average, no better than Legia, and we’d have beaten them easily earlier in the season.
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
I know it's almost treading into conspiracy theory territory and that is never good, but something still doesn't sit right with me about that officiating the other night. I could understand if he'd been incompetent and as equally bad for both sides, but he clearly wasn't. He just seemed to almost manage them through the game, giving them favourable decisions when they most needed them.
That decision to not play advantage that you mention only to then not book the player was awful and it just kept happening at times when they needed something during the game. Was it really wise to have Italian officials in a game when there is still an Italian team in the competition and Italian football benefits in general from that team doing well in that competition? I doubt very much we would see an English referee appointed to a game in those circumstances to be totally honest.
Unfortunately, I fear that officiating in the 2nd leg is going to be even worse.
One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
I might be biased but one of the best away fans too.
They were very good, might have been swayed by my position in the upper north but I was thinking, fuck me if a couple of thousand are like this, it’s going to be mayhem with 30/40k in the away leg.
I spoke to a mate who’s been to all the Euro games and he said the atmosphere in Warsaw was the best he can remember, so it’ll be interesting to hear his thoughts on Athens.
Joe? ..... Joe Grealish? ...... Is that you?Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
Nice to see, but if he cares that much he could always have not left. I was a goalkeeper as a kid and him leaving hit me harder than Yorke, without a doubt.
Man U at the peak of their powers came calling as they did with Yorke. We as we have for numerous other players couldn’t provide an environment for sustained success. He can still care deeply even if he addressed his career by leaving us.
Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
I thought it was Eamonn Holmes.
I'm only fucking angels at the moment, sorry chief.
I’m still flat after last night too, but we had a good chat on the drive back to London last night.Agree with a lot of that Pat.
Haven’t seen any highlights yet - haven’t seen a link - but a few points that come to mind:
Disappointed Torres didn’t start - presumably he can’t do two games in a few days so needs to be managed
Our passing was woeful and inconsistent, starting with that horror pass across his own box by Dougie after 2 minutes
Our high line didn’t feel fine tuned last night. Similar to Lille at home, who could have had 3 goals in first half
We were slow and indecisive in our passing, and struggled to move the ball through the middle
Errors, errors - Ollie losing the ball for their second, Lenglet for some reason shepherding the ball out for the corner that lead to their third, Dougie’s handball, giving the ball away cheaply for their fourth, falling for niggly stuff to delay our penalty…..
If we finish 5th and go out in Athens we would still have had a brilliant season, so I’m not whinging, but I think the autumn Villa would have done much better against Olympiacos last night. Given our away performances in Europe I’m not expecting a turnaround, but that 10-20% hope is still there. I was in Warsaw and reckon the game next week will be a madder atmosphere. It would be one of the greatest nights in our history if we turned this around.
One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
I might be biased but one of the best away fans too.
They were very good, might have been swayed by my position in the upper north but I was thinking, fuck me if a couple of thousand are like this, it’s going to be mayhem with 30/40k in the away leg.
I spoke to a mate who’s been to all the Euro games and he said the atmosphere in Warsaw was the best he can remember, so it’ll be interesting to hear his thoughts on Athens.
They are very loud and passionate but they can turn on their team very quickly too. Their fans were going mental when they also almost blew a 3 goal lead. against fenebache. They ca get very nervy. There is a lot of pressure on the side as they are now expected to finish the job and withe final in greece there is that extra expectation
Honestly they do have a the capability of crumbling which gives me a slight glimmer of hope. But we would have to score early.
If our players ignore the noise and really want it they can make up for that shit show. Also our fans going to be loud noisy ans make themselves heard. We hardly heard them in lille. The players will need your support
He was 27 when he fucked off and he barely played again, fuck him.
Yep, fuck everyone who has ever chosen to leave us when we still want them. Players come and go; I support Aston Villa.
But Bosnich fucking off was tough for me, as a kid.
Were you any good as a keeper as a kid? My older brother was a keeper, just Saturday/Sunday stuff, but you need to be a bit tapped. I was a rapid right back, think Kyle Walker but paler and less likely to get his cock out in pubs.
At first I was just the fat kid stuck in goal, but I was okay. I had decent reflexes and was good at closing down space and defending one-on-ones. But I couldn't catch a ball to save my life.
One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
I might be biased but one of the best away fans too.
They were very good, might have been swayed by my position in the upper north but I was thinking, fuck me if a couple of thousand are like this, it’s going to be mayhem with 30/40k in the away leg.
I spoke to a mate who’s been to all the Euro games and he said the atmosphere in Warsaw was the best he can remember, so it’ll be interesting to hear his thoughts on Athens.
They are very loud and passionate but they can turn on their team very quickly too. Their fans were going mental when they also almost blew a 3 goal lead. against fenebache. They ca get very nervy. There is a lot of pressure on the side as they are now expected to finish the job and withe final in greece there is that extra expectation
Honestly they do have a the capability of crumbling which gives me a slight glimmer of hope. But we would have to score early.
If our players ignore the noise and really want it they can make up for that shit show. Also our fans going to be loud noisy ans make themselves heard. We hardly heard them in lille. The players will need your support
Luckily the officials are Italian and we all know how honest and trustworthy they are and they have never been involved in any scandals involving brown envelopes. My cousin Tony who lives in Naples has sent them his "best wishes" We've got this chaps.Normally I am the same, but I looked who was the referee during the match and guessed it was Italian looking at the name, there were other incidents during the game, I am not into the Eurovision song contest thing but it had vibes of it, you could stick Adele in it and we still wouldn't win, although that was no excuse for the performanceWhen we got to 2-2, I thought we’d win 4 or 5 but we have really lost any kind of solidity defending for a long time. Weird really as it was a real strength in Unai’s first 12 months.
I thought they were very average, no better than Legia, and we’d have beaten them easily earlier in the season.
Lots of comments on the ref I agree with, but the one that really got me was in the first half when we were breaking down the right and he called it back to give free kick for us in our half and wagged his finger at their player without booking him.
I know it's almost treading into conspiracy theory territory and that is never good, but something still doesn't sit right with me about that officiating the other night. I could understand if he'd been incompetent and as equally bad for both sides, but he clearly wasn't. He just seemed to almost manage them through the game, giving them favourable decisions when they most needed them.
That decision to not play advantage that you mention only to then not book the player was awful and it just kept happening at times when they needed something during the game. Was it really wise to have Italian officials in a game when there is still an Italian team in the competition and Italian football benefits in general from that team doing well in that competition? I doubt very much we would see an English referee appointed to a game in those circumstances to be totally honest.
Unfortunately, I fear that officiating in the 2nd leg is going to be even worse.
i've travelled all over Greece and theyre a lovely race of people and i have a lot of affection for them.One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
I might be biased but one of the best away fans too.
They were very good, might have been swayed by my position in the upper north but I was thinking, fuck me if a couple of thousand are like this, it’s going to be mayhem with 30/40k in the away leg.
I spoke to a mate who’s been to all the Euro games and he said the atmosphere in Warsaw was the best he can remember, so it’ll be interesting to hear his thoughts on Athens.
They are very loud and passionate but they can turn on their team very quickly too. Their fans were going mental when they also almost blew a 3 goal lead. against fenebache. They ca get very nervy. There is a lot of pressure on the side as they are now expected to finish the job and withe final in greece there is that extra expectation
Honestly they do have a the capability of crumbling which gives me a slight glimmer of hope. But we would have to score early.
If our players ignore the noise and really want it they can make up for that shit show. Also our fans going to be loud noisy ans make themselves heard. We hardly heard them in lille. The players will need your support
We were sat near the Villa fans in Lille and they weren’t too loud after the first goal but were better in the second half. They were really good in extra time.
I don’t know who your Greek team is but the Olympiacos fans we met were really decent, though only about half spoke English. I was expecting more “look at us we’re mad choreographed ultras “ behaviour but they were just noisy without aggression.
Same, spoke with 2 separate bunches of Olympiacos supporters and they were lovely.One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
I might be biased but one of the best away fans too.
They were very good, might have been swayed by my position in the upper north but I was thinking, fuck me if a couple of thousand are like this, it’s going to be mayhem with 30/40k in the away leg.
I spoke to a mate who’s been to all the Euro games and he said the atmosphere in Warsaw was the best he can remember, so it’ll be interesting to hear his thoughts on Athens.
They are very loud and passionate but they can turn on their team very quickly too. Their fans were going mental when they also almost blew a 3 goal lead. against fenebache. They ca get very nervy. There is a lot of pressure on the side as they are now expected to finish the job and withe final in greece there is that extra expectation
Honestly they do have a the capability of crumbling which gives me a slight glimmer of hope. But we would have to score early.
If our players ignore the noise and really want it they can make up for that shit show. Also our fans going to be loud noisy ans make themselves heard. We hardly heard them in lille. The players will need your support
We were sat near the Villa fans in Lille and they weren’t too loud after the first goal but were better in the second half. They were really good in extra time.
I don’t know who your Greek team is but the Olympiacos fans we met were really decent, though only about half spoke English. I was expecting more “look at us we’re mad choreographed ultras “ behaviour but they were just noisy without aggression.
Same, spoke with 2 separate bunches of Olympiacos supporters and they were lovely.One thing I haven't seen being mentioned, but Villa Park was loud last night - particularly pre-kick off.
I might be biased but one of the best away fans too.
They were very good, might have been swayed by my position in the upper north but I was thinking, fuck me if a couple of thousand are like this, it’s going to be mayhem with 30/40k in the away leg.
I spoke to a mate who’s been to all the Euro games and he said the atmosphere in Warsaw was the best he can remember, so it’ll be interesting to hear his thoughts on Athens.
They are very loud and passionate but they can turn on their team very quickly too. Their fans were going mental when they also almost blew a 3 goal lead. against fenebache. They ca get very nervy. There is a lot of pressure on the side as they are now expected to finish the job and withe final in greece there is that extra expectation
Honestly they do have a the capability of crumbling which gives me a slight glimmer of hope. But we would have to score early.
If our players ignore the noise and really want it they can make up for that shit show. Also our fans going to be loud noisy ans make themselves heard. We hardly heard them in lille. The players will need your support
We were sat near the Villa fans in Lille and they weren’t too loud after the first goal but were better in the second half. They were really good in extra time.
I don’t know who your Greek team is but the Olympiacos fans we met were really decent, though only about half spoke English. I was expecting more “look at us we’re mad choreographed ultras “ behaviour but they were just noisy without aggression.
Fuck me - I was thinking about that the other week. I fell for it hook and line (I have never been the sharpest). To this day it still makes my blood boil.Next season David Platt will be seen at VP with a half and half scarf.Bozzie watching the game last night
https://x.com/iantaylor7/status/1786476531021230158?s=46
We felt the same joy and mostly anguish
I thought it was Eamonn Holmes.
He still needs to apologise for that April fools stunt in Shoot in 1995.