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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 15, 2024, 11:51:19 AM
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There is enough reportable sources to kick this one off. Seems like about £6.5m plus add one for a highly rated prospect who we hope will challenge Matty Cash next season when joins up officially. Seems big, strong and fast from the videos of him.
https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1746837147422777443?s=46
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First signs of Monchi's work over the past 6 months. Seems to have the potential to be a great value for money signing.
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At least he won't Kosta lot.
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We have a right back who once played… for Red Star Belgrade.
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We have a right back who once played… for Red Star Belgrade.
Uncle Kosta
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Hopefully he’ll be a more successful full back find than Najwan Ghrayib was.
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Ghrayib...Stas...they still circle the windmills of our minds from time to time.
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shame he is not coming now though
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Put this in the transfer thread yesterday. Highlights from a CL vs Man City. Looks pretty good
https://x.com/footballreprt/status/1746727739787231242?s=46
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Only 18, so is he:
Another youth player for the future, probably to be sold on, or
Like Jhon Duran, young and inexperienced but physically mature and ready for Emery to be every day demanding, or
Ready to go now, (well, next season) and able to challenge Cash from the off?
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Only 18, so is he:
Another youth player for the future, probably to be sold on, or
Like Jhon Duran, young and inexperienced but physically mature and ready for Emery to be every day demanding, or
Ready to go now, (well, next season) and able to challenge Cash from the off?
If he's been playing in the CL for Red Star he must be approaching being ready.
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Put this in the transfer thread yesterday. Highlights from a CL vs Man City. Looks pretty good
https://x.com/footballreprt/status/1746727739787231242?s=46
Watched that. Bonus points for actually trying to beat a man and pass it forward. Minus points for not snapping Grealish in half like a twig when he had the opportunity. ;)
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Only 18, so is he:
Another youth player for the future, probably to be sold on, or
Like Jhon Duran, young and inexperienced but physically mature and ready for Emery to be every day demanding, or
Ready to go now, (well, next season) and able to challenge Cash from the off?
If he's been playing in the CL for Red Star he must be approaching being ready.
Red Star are only slightly worse then Celtic but I will try to stay positive.
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Only 18, so is he:
Another youth player for the future, probably to be sold on, or
Like Jhon Duran, young and inexperienced but physically mature and ready for Emery to be every day demanding, or
Ready to go now, (well, next season) and able to challenge Cash from the off?
If he's been playing in the CL for Red Star he must be approaching being ready.
Red Star are only slightly worse then Celtic but I will try to stay positive.
Frimpong at Bayer Leverkusen is one of the most sort after right backs. He still played for Celtic.
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Was he at Arsenal before that?
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Was he at Arsenal before that?
No, different Frimpong. Quite a common surname in that part of the world. Similar to there being quite a few players with the surname Traore.
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Was he at Arsenal before that?
That was a midfielder of the same name about a decade ago wasn’t it?
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Didn’t he used to play bass for Nirvana?
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Not the only reason to buy a player but Serbians are quite intense about their sporting stars. If he's any kind of successful we could sell a shed load of shirts over there.
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It's not a very big market though.
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He sounds like a tennis player.
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He sounds like a tennis player.
I’m sure he’ll be ace.
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Im sure he will provide a great service
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Was he at Arsenal before that?
That was a midfielder of the same name about a decade ago wasn’t it?
Yes, he's not so much of a 'one for the future' given that he seems to have retired five years ago.
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He's certain to be a smash.
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Didn't he end up at Barnsley or something? Was at Wulvz as well.
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If we do try and get Frimpong in the summer, which would be an incredible signing, him + this lad could spell the end for Cash long-term.
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If we do try and get Frimpong in the summer, which would be an incredible signing, him + this lad could spell the end for Cash long-term.
Emery already seems to prefer Konsa in away games and against better opposition in home games. I think the writing may already be on the wall for Cash.
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Put this in the transfer thread yesterday. Highlights from a CL vs Man City. Looks pretty good
https://x.com/footballreprt/status/1746727739787231242?s=46
Although looking at the full highlights, the twitter bits obviously didn't show the time he left Grealish totally unmarked as he had ventured up the pitch and was no where near the defense which should be his main position.
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Put this in the transfer thread yesterday. Highlights from a CL vs Man City. Looks pretty good
https://x.com/footballreprt/status/1746727739787231242?s=46
Although looking at the full highlights, the twitter bits obviously didn't show the time he left Grealish totally unmarked as he had ventured up the pitch and was no where near the defense which should be his main position.
The impression I got from the Man City highlights was that he was playing wingback so not completely at fault if he was pushing forward.
He looks a big lad so you’d think he could also do that RB/CB thing that Emery is keen on.
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Not the only reason to buy a player but Serbians are quite intense about their sporting stars. If he's any kind of successful we could sell a shed load of shirts over there.
Our last Serb was pretty serious...Sasa Curcic...
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Romano now saying the fee is some way below the reported £6.6m.
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Romano now saying the fee is some way below the reported £6.6m.
I'll wait till we get the 'Here we go' before I start working on his song.
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Don't know much about him but I trust Unai's and Monchi's judgement.
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we can't be sailing too close to FFP if we are signing future talent like this . Bit of a luxury
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we can't be sailing too close to FFP if we are signing future talent like this . Bit of a luxury
Not really.
It's all part of being a big club.
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Not a huge fee, which obviously gets amortised over the length of his contract. KKH back now, presumably for Emery to have a good look at him for the deputy role. Suggests Cash gets sold in the summer for decent FFP money.
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Not a huge fee, which obviously gets amortised over the length of his contract. KKH back now, presumably for Emery to have a good look at him for the deputy role. Suggests Cash gets sold in the summer for decent FFP money.
Not sure Cash brings much in the way of FFP. We paid a fairly high fee for him, and some will be still on the books. We would also have to spend most of it replacing him.
If we want a slug of cash that counts for FFP, Ramsey, Luiz or McGinn are the most likely to help balance the books. Not that I want any of those sold.
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That's the point though, we'll replace him with a Bosnian lad who is on the books at barely more than £1m per season, plus KKH as deputy.
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Not sure Cash brings much in the way of FFP. We paid a fairly high fee for him, and some will be still on the books. We would also have to spend most of it replacing him.
We paid £14m for him on a 5 year contract (about £3m a year). He's currently on his 4th season at the club. If we sell him in the summer, anything over £3m is profit.
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This izxwhat Fabrizio Romano has reported on a deal;
It's understood that Villa are working on a deal to sign 18-year-old Red Star Belgrade defender Nedeljkovic, with reports suggesting that he could cost in the region of £6.6m. The plan appears to be for the youngster to remain with his current club until the end of the season if a deal is finalised and he will link up with Emery's charges in the summer. Reports have also suggested that Red Star could retain a 12% sell-on clause in the deal.
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Was he at Arsenal before that?
No, different Frimpong. Quite a common surname in that part of the world. Similar to there being quite a few players with the surname Traore.
So common that there's five footballers called Adama Traore
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Not the only reason to buy a player but Serbians are quite intense about their sporting stars. If he's any kind of successful we could sell a shed load of shirts over there.
So long as it's not a repeat of when we signed Samatta and all the Villa social media was taken over by deranged Tanzanians - they were pretty weird :)
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https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1747582573662851220?t=gGZ7B7DWcpzSv_NX7_9c7A&s=19
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https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1747582573662851220?t=gGZ7B7DWcpzSv_NX7_9c7A&s=19
Good news.
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As an aside, what an absolute shitshow Twitter is these days. All of the top comments on any article are from "Blue Tick" accounts, most of which seem to be bots posting any old random shite.
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As an aside, what an absolute shitshow Twitter is these days. All of the top comments on any article are from "Blue Tick" accounts, most of which seem to be bots posting any old random shite.
It's awful. A lot of replies to accounts are bots, posting sh*t or repeating the main story. I am close to leaving.
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As an aside, what an absolute shitshow Twitter is these days. All of the top comments on any article are from "Blue Tick" accounts, most of which seem to be bots posting any old random shite.
That it is, it's really bad now and every other post is of some one in a skimpy outfit who lives 1km away from me and wants me. I can assure Twitter that they don't!
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Twitter has become an awful place. I wish I could eliminate the noise and ads, but I suppose that’s where they want your money. And even then I have no confidence I wouldn’t get a million bots clogging up my feed with inane, bollocks content.
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As an aside, what an absolute shitshow Twitter is these days. All of the top comments on any article are from "Blue Tick" accounts, most of which seem to be bots posting any old random shite.
Since Elon provided the profit incentive to blue ticks to create 'engagement', it's just become a haven for click-bait and controversial opinions. It now pays to be an arsehole with terrible opinions, because you're literally getting paid when people argue with you. I don't see how it survives beyond another 12 months unless something on there drastically changes. The alternatives are slowly catching up, and one of them will break out in the next year, guaranteed.
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Twitter has become an awful place. I wish I could eliminate the noise and ads, but I suppose that’s where they want your money. And even then I have no confidence I wouldn’t get a million bots clogging up my feed with inane, bollocks content.
Scrapped my account as soon as that bell end took over, it was only down hill from there.
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Yep been off it for over 6 months don’t miss it a bit.
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The alternatives are slowly catching up, and one of them will break out in the next year, guaranteed.
Wish they'd catch up a bit quicker.
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The alternatives are slowly catching up, and one of them will break out in the next year, guaranteed.
Wish they'd catch up a bit quicker.
It takes time to scale to the required size without a lot of money behind you. It'll happen though. A friend of mine once said that a successful social network needs to make women feel safe on it. Because then men will want to be there, too, where the women are. It's a bit like boozers, there are some you would just never set foot in. Twitter is fast turning into one of "those" boozers. It will remain rampantly popular with an ever-decreasing number of people, and it all depends on whether that ever-decreasing number of people can generate enough revenue to service the billions in debt Elon leveraged against it.
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Twitter has become an awful place. I wish I could eliminate the noise and ads, but I suppose that’s where they want your money. And even then I have no confidence I wouldn’t get a million bots clogging up my feed with inane, bollocks content.
Scrapped my account as soon as that bell end took over, it was only down hill from there.
Me too, within probably a month of space Karen taking over, it was pretty obvious how things were going so I bailed. No regrets.
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As an aside, what an absolute shitshow Twitter is these days. All of the top comments on any article are from "Blue Tick" accounts, most of which seem to be bots posting any old random shite.
It's awful. A lot of replies to accounts are bots, posting sh*t or repeating the main story. I am close to leaving.
what are the alternatives , that threads popped up bit seemed to die a sudden death
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Yep been off it for over 6 months don’t miss it a bit.
I wouldn’t be averse to sacking it but I’m at work 48 hours a week and it’s mostly a no-work job. Plus it’s at night when nobody is posting on here.
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Evening everyone, hope you're doing well. Here's a short 2 minute video detailing everything you need to know about Kosta Nedeljkovic for those of you interested. He's far and away the biggest talent in Serbian football, and I have no doubt he'll take over from Matty Cash at right back in due course. Do let me know what you make of this down, and feel free to ask me any questions you may have, cheers!
https://youtu.be/CrOdxI-_MYQ?si=xdutxxg8cYGlBQK7
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As an aside, what an absolute shitshow Twitter is these days. All of the top comments on any article are from "Blue Tick" accounts, most of which seem to be bots posting any old random shite.
It's awful. A lot of replies to accounts are bots, posting sh*t or repeating the main story. I am close to leaving.
what are the alternatives , that threads popped up bit seemed to die a sudden death
Looking to get out of it all together, spend too much time reading crap.
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As an aside, what an absolute shitshow Twitter is these days. All of the top comments on any article are from "Blue Tick" accounts, most of which seem to be bots posting any old random shite.
It's awful. A lot of replies to accounts are bots, posting sh*t or repeating the main story. I am close to leaving.
what are the alternatives , that threads popped up bit seemed to die a sudden death
Looking to get out of it all together, spend too much time reading crap.
I canned them all, if I want to waste time reading shit this is the only place for me!
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I gave up twitter about a year ago and it's done wonders for my mood. I didn't realise it while I was using it but I was constantly annoyed about something, even with a carefully curated feed and hundreds of muted words and/or accounts. Even before it went to hell with Musk, it was a very reactionary place. The amount of times I'd get caught up in something that seemed very important and then you'd go out into the real world and realise nobody cared, it was just some stupid twitter drama.
I got an invite to the BlueSky thing and I signed up and had a quick look. It looks exactly like twitter, interface wise, but it doesn't seem to be very active. And even if it was I question if I really need to get sucked back into that kind of thing again.
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Yeah, BlueSky doesn't have all the nutters but it simply isn't active enough. I don't check it often.
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Has Ned actually signed yet?
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Supposed to be tomorrow based off the latest posted by that twitter bod.
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Evening everyone, hope you're doing well. Here's a short 2 minute video detailing everything you need to know about Kosta Nedeljkovic for those of you interested. He's far and away the biggest talent in Serbian football, and I have no doubt he'll take over from Matty Cash at right back in due course. Do let me know what you make of this down, and feel free to ask me any questions you may have, cheers!
https://youtu.be/CrOdxI-_MYQ?si=xdutxxg8cYGlBQK7
Cheers Uti. Sounds like a decent prospect. Shame there's no thunder-bastards in this video though.
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I gave up twitter about a year ago and it's done wonders for my mood. I didn't realise it while I was using it but I was constantly annoyed about something, even with a carefully curated feed and hundreds of muted words and/or accounts. Even before it went to hell with Musk, it was a very reactionary place. The amount of times I'd get caught up in something that seemed very important and then you'd go out into the real world and realise nobody cared, it was just some stupid twitter drama.
I think this is true of most social media and was the reason I binned off Facebook about 5 years ago. I just used to get annoyed at “friends” posting complete shite and just had enough, never looked back. Only thing that was vaguely useful was the local village group telling you of traffic incidents etc but that’s full of nosy busybodies, might be quite good to go back on there just on the wind up.
Work keep pestering me to get on fb to try and generate customers but have resisted so far.
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I gave up twitter about a year ago and it's done wonders for my mood. I didn't realise it while I was using it but I was constantly annoyed about something, even with a carefully curated feed and hundreds of muted words and/or accounts. Even before it went to hell with Musk, it was a very reactionary place. The amount of times I'd get caught up in something that seemed very important and then you'd go out into the real world and realise nobody cared, it was just some stupid twitter drama.
I think this is true of most social media and was the reason I binned off Facebook about 5 years ago. I just used to get annoyed at “friends” posting complete shite and just had enough, never looked back. Only thing that was vaguely useful was the local village group telling you of traffic incidents etc but that’s full of nosy busybodies, might be quite good to go back on there just on the wind up.
Work keep pestering me to get on fb to try and generate customers but have resisted so far.
I've never used facebook or anything, I've never seen the point. My partner does and people talk to me about things because he's posted something I ate or somewhere we went. Are people's lives so boring they have to look at what I've had for tea?
I stick to the essentials - LinkedIn for finding business and Grindr for naked rolling about. Until Twitter can offer me money or animal relief, it knows what it can do with itself.
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The ads it now allows on does the latter, however mostly women based on the very graphic pictures that appear in some ads.
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I gave up twitter about a year ago and it's done wonders for my mood. I didn't realise it while I was using it but I was constantly annoyed about something, even with a carefully curated feed and hundreds of muted words and/or accounts. Even before it went to hell with Musk, it was a very reactionary place. The amount of times I'd get caught up in something that seemed very important and then you'd go out into the real world and realise nobody cared, it was just some stupid twitter drama.
I think this is true of most social media and was the reason I binned off Facebook about 5 years ago. I just used to get annoyed at “friends” posting complete shite and just had enough, never looked back. Only thing that was vaguely useful was the local village group telling you of traffic incidents etc but that’s full of nosy busybodies, might be quite good to go back on there just on the wind up.
Work keep pestering me to get on fb to try and generate customers but have resisted so far.
I've never used facebook or anything, I've never seen the point. My partner does and people talk to me about things because he's posted something I ate or somewhere we went. Are people's lives so boring they have to look at what I've had for tea?
I stick to the essentials - LinkedIn for finding business and Grindr for naked rolling about. Until Twitter can offer me money or animal relief, it knows what it can do with itself.
That must be difficult to fulfill, you know what with the opposable thumbs issue.
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You click on something that you think might be interesting and the top six replies are usually something like:
(1) tired meme that is nothing to do with the subject
(2) ad for crypto-scam
(3) tired meme that is nothing to do with the subject
(4) picture of lady with no clothes who apparently lives 300m from me
(5) Blue-tick troll account
(6) ad for anti-baldness scam
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I only scan Twitter sparingly but the most annoying thing, apart from the in-thread adverts, recently, is if you click into replies within a reply, when you click back after reading, you are taken back to the original tweet at the top instead of resuming from where you were reading. So you have to scroll down again and find the point you were at previously. I presume that was an Elon prank, I don't remember it being an issue before.
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That must be difficult to fulfill, you know what with the opposable thumbs issue.
Needs must as the devil drives!
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I got an invite to the BlueSky thing and I signed up and had a quick look. It looks exactly like twitter, interface wise, but it doesn't seem to be very active. And even if it was I question if I really need to get sucked back into that kind of thing again.
I'm on BlueSky, but basically just to read Robin Ince's posts
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Signed.....
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We just need to think of a song for him now. That won’t be easy!
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Give me an N….
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Hey hey Kosta
Oh ah
I wanna knooow
How to spell your name
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I bet he got excited when he saw the training facilities etc.
Welcome young man. I'm sure you will do well.
Considering he has champions league experience I hope he comes into 1st team squad contention
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Welcome Ned. Top prospect.
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Has it been confirmed that he's staying where he is until the summer?
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He’s staying with them until the summer. Welcome Ned, be good!
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Has it been confirmed that he's staying where he is until the summer?
Aston Villa is delighted to announce the signing of Kosta Nedeljković for an undisclosed fee.
The defender joins from Red Star Belgrade and will spend the remainder of the 2023/24 season on loan with the Serbian club.
A product of the youth Academy at Red Star, Nedeljković made his breakthrough into the first team at the start of this campaign and has also represented Serbia at youth international level.
Welcome, Kosta! 🇷🇸
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Welcome Ned. Top prospect.
We did Uncle Ned him earlier in the thread for Billy Bragg purposes didn’t we?
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Hey hey Kosta
Oh ah
I wanna knooow
How to spell your name
That is super! 😂
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Third Serb after Savo and Curcic?
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I bet he got excited when he saw the training facilities etc.
Welcome young man. I'm sure you will do well.
Considering he has champions league experience I hope he comes into 1st team squad contention
i hope he is playing in the Champions League next season too, but I wouldn't put Cash on it
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(https://i.ibb.co/RQDVQmS/IMG-1739.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RQDVQmS)
A tepid stretch. Not impressed.
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He's read about our shit shirts, doesn't want to rip it in two.
I'm sure you could do something to the tune of Zombie by The Cranberries. "We've got Ned, we've got Neeeeeed-eljkovic-ic-ic" Might require some creative pronunciation.
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Aston Villa sign Nedeljkovic from Belgrade - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68064786
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Kosta Nedeljkovic, Nedeljkovic on the right/in the air*
Tony Cascarino song...
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We just need to think of a song for him now. That won’t be easy!
Nedeljkovic, Nedeljkovic
Ev'ry game we greet you
Six foot two
'n claret and blue
No one out there can match you
From Smederevo, you bloom and grow
Bloom and grow forever
Nedeljkovic, Nedeljkovic
He's our Villan forever.
*To the tune of Edelweiss.
**Might need some work.
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Welcome Ned. Top prospect.
We did Uncle Ned him earlier in the thread for Billy Bragg purposes didn’t we?
"Nuh-del-ko-vich" Btw I understand.
Anyway, I think we all have one god awful entirely unnecessary pastiche (and possibly pasty the way my tummy feels) inside us, and here is mine…
We had relations with managers from many nations
Players making passes and falling on their arses
So often overpaid, we didn’t turn them away
Now Heck hoping if we stick around surely we’ll pay into the Lower Grounds
Unai Emery, strong and warm and wild and free
Unai Emery, VAR laws do not apply to me
A fraud Scouse manager sinks in the League of Saudi (Saudi)
His results gave us headaches when we had him
We have a right back who still plays for Red Star Belgrade
His surname might be best left unspoken
But I prefer it all to be out in the open
Unai Emery, a world away from Stevie G
Unai Emery, he demands consistency
We’re sure that everybody knows how much Blue Noses hate us
Let themselves down most every time, are jealous of cash and status
But we can only smirk about Unai’s remarkable body of work
Players getting weighed down with all this information
High press doesn't always impress but often brings extra penetration
Keep playing between yourselves even when the restless yells
Big Emi looks like Robert De Niro, stopped Messi ending up with Zero
Unai Emery, come eat and drink and sleep with me
Unai Emery, we can be what we want to be
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Kosta Nedeljkovic, Nedeljkovic on the right/in the air*
Tony Cascarino song...
Originally Andy Lockhead, I believe.
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Welcome to Aston Villa Kosta.
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Hey hey Kosta
Oh ah
I wanna knooow
How to spell your name
excellent!
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We've bought a right back, now we've got a few
He's got a mono-brow, no I think it's two
Spelling his surname will catch us on the hop
And his first is almost a coffee shop
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He's read about our shit shirts, doesn't want to rip it in two.
He probably knows that if more than 5% of the surface makes contact with his body, he'll spunk out half his body weight in sweat by the time the photos are done.
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Welcome Ned. Top prospect.
We did Uncle Ned him earlier in the thread for Billy Bragg purposes didn’t we?
"Nuh-del-ko-vich" Btw I understand.
Anyway, I think we all have one god awful entirely unnecessary pastiche (and possibly pasty the way my tummy feels) inside us, and here is mine…
We had relations with managers from many nations
Players making passes and falling on their arses
So often overpaid, we didn’t turn them away
Now Heck hoping if we stick around surely we’ll pay into the Lower Grounds
Unai Emery, strong and warm and wild and free
Unai Emery, VAR laws do not apply to me
A fraud Scouse manager sinks in the League of Saudi (Saudi)
His results gave us headaches when we had him
We have a right back who still plays for Red Star Belgrade
His surname might be best left unspoken
But I prefer it all to be out in the open
Unai Emery, a world away from Stevie G
Unai Emery, he demands consistency
We’re sure that everybody knows how much Blue Noses hate us
Let themselves down most every time, are jealous of cash and status
But we can only smirk about Unai’s remarkable body of work
Players getting weighed down with all this information
High press doesn't always impress but often brings extra penetration
Keep playing between yourselves even when the restless yells
Big Emi looks like Robert De Niro, stopped Messi ending up with Zero
Unai Emery, come eat and drink and sleep with me
Unai Emery, we can be what we want to be
Top work. A classic from the Bard of Barking. UTV
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We can defend with our Ned,
the player that all wingers dread
To the tune of that L7 song that she got her growler out to on The Word.
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We can defend with our Ned,
the player that all wingers dread
To the tune of that L7 song that she got her growler out to on The Word.
Was it his eyebrows that reminded you of that?
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We can defend with our Ned,
the player that all wingers dread
To the tune of that L7 song that she got her growler out to on The Word.
Was it his eyebrows that reminded you of that?
Going by memory, wasn't her growler grey?
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Jesus Christ.
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We can defend with our Ned,
the player that all wingers dread
To the tune of that L7 song that she got her growler out to on The Word.
Pretend We're Dead. Also known as Aston Villa: the Paul Lambert Years.
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We can defend with our Ned,
the player that all wingers dread
To the tune of that L7 song that she got her growler out to on The Word.
Was it his eyebrows that reminded you of that?
Going by memory, wasn't her growler grey?
Yes, I believe so, and it was a little disconcerting to a 14-15 year old me.
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We can defend with our Ned,
the player that all wingers dread
To the tune of that L7 song that she got her growler out to on The Word.
Was it his eyebrows that reminded you of that?
Going by memory, wasn't her growler grey?
Yes, I believe so, and it was a little disconcerting to a 14-15 year old me.
I remember it as ginger.
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We can defend with our Ned,
the player that all wingers dread
To the tune of that L7 song that she got her growler out to on The Word.
Was it his eyebrows that reminded you of that?
Going by memory, wasn't her growler grey?
Yes, I believe so, and it was a little disconcerting to a 14-15 year old me.
I remember it as ginger.
Probably the sepia tint of the village television set, or wishful thinking.
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Well I've never seen that before.
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Well I've never seen that before.
Ha, did the same as me then and googled to find out what you were missing out on? :)
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My word. I'll buy that for a dollar.
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Not Safe for Wanking.
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Not Safe for Wanking.
No Semen From Wank.
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Crikey! Is that a Flying V with fuzz?
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Hey hey Kosta
Oh ah
I wanna knooow
How to spell your name
excellent!
Yes, that’s the one. Posted on X, hope you don’t mind Kev.
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Put this in the transfer thread yesterday. Highlights from a CL vs Man City. Looks pretty good
https://x.com/footballreprt/status/1746727739787231242?s=46
Watched that. Bonus points for actually trying to beat a man and pass it forward. Minus points for not snapping Grealish in half like a twig when he had the opportunity. ;)
I'm just happy he never scored with that shot as his price would be three or four times what we're paying. I expect him to create and bury them every week now he's a Villa player.
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I always think of the bass player in Nirvana when I see his name. He looked more like a goalkeeper.
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Well I've never seen that before.
Watched for a bit then decided I could live without seeing it.
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Well I've never seen that before.
I saw them support Faith No More at the old NEC.
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I saw them support Faith No More at the old NEC.
Apparently so did I (at the Point Depot in Dublin). I have no recollection of ever seeing L7, but Faith No More were outstanding that night.
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Welcome, one for the future.
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Well I've never seen that before.
I saw them support Faith No More at the old NEC.
I saw them at either the Wolverhampton Wulfrun or Civic Hall (can’t remember which) back in the day.
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To go from signing a promising right back from Serbia to a singer getting her fanny out on the word within 7 pages is what makes H&V the greatest website in the world!
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To go from signing a promising right back from Serbia to a singer getting her fanny monobrow out on the word within 7 pages is what makes H&V the greatest website in the world!
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Fucking hell. Injured by association to us.
Aston Villa defender Kosta Nedeljkovic is set for a few weeks on the sidelines after picking up an injury while still with Red Star Belgrade
https://x.com/avfc_news/status/1757089625452024175?s=46
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obviously had an outer body experience
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Ffs, it’s obviously preparation for next season.
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Tore a ligament reaching down on the carousel for his bag on the way back from the medical.
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Wait till dEmitri* hears this news - he'll be claiming he was definitely right about our training regime ...
* the poster who makes the Grauniad look like the most well-proofread paper in the world.
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Interesting going on with our young champions league right back and has been' injured and unavailable' since the start of February.
The minute he was signed by Villa he hasn't been playing -is that a decision by the clubs or something ?
It's too much of a coincidence to be 'injured'
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Interesting going on with our young champions league right back and has been' injured and unavailable' since the start of February.
The minute he was signed by Villa he hasn't been playing -is that a decision by the clubs or something ?
It's too much of a coincidence to be 'injured'
He’s probably ‘injured’ - not everything needs a conspiracy theory
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Interesting going on with our young champions league right back and has been' injured and unavailable' since the start of February.
The minute he was signed by Villa he hasn't been playing -is that a decision by the clubs or something ?
It's too much of a coincidence to be 'injured'
He’s probably ‘injured’ - not everything needs a conspiracy theory
And 'unavailable', the plot thickens.
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I could've sworn it was a knee injury.
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Well conspiracy wise hopefully no Balkan organisers have put pressure or made a deal and interfered as there's big money involved. There are quite a few groups that operate now on Spanish coasts.
He's injured. Scroll up half a page.
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Wait till dEmitri* hears this news - he'll be claiming he was definitely right about our training regime ...
* the poster who makes the Grauniad look like the most well-proofread paper in the world.
Ive only just seen this. What a wierd little post this is
Not sure why you felt the need to post this ?
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Interesting going on with our young champions league right back and has been' injured and unavailable' since the start of February.
The minute he was signed by Villa he hasn't been playing -is that a decision by the clubs or something ?
It's too much of a coincidence to be 'injured'
If we didn't want him to play for them, wouldn't we just have brought him over here in the first place?
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I don't know why and feel I start thinking something amiss, as I have already stated, but for the for the sake of wondering all thing by myself and respecting the board, I believe in patience and hope the transfer goes through.
I'll have to stop wondering what happened to him.
Has he even set foot in England?
He won't be playing in Serbia vs. England in the Euros, but it would be nice to actually see more of him.
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Well conspiracy wise hopefully no Balkan organisers have put pressure or made a deal and interfered as there's big money involved. There are quite a few groups that operate now on Spanish coasts.
Think you're confusing Kosta with the Costa del Sol.
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I don't know why and feel I start thinking something amiss, as I have already stated, but for the for the sake of myself and respecting the board, I believe in patience and hope the transfer goes through.
Has he even set foot in England?
(https://i.ibb.co/RQDVQmS/IMG-1739.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RQDVQmS)
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I don't know why and feel I start thinking something amiss, as I have already stated, but for the for the sake of myself and respecting the board, I believe in patience and hope the transfer goes through.
Has he even set foot in England?
(https://i.ibb.co/RQDVQmS/IMG-1739.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RQDVQmS)
Ah thank you. I take it that's in Birmingham, England. Because it looks like the Villa signs. Anyway it's good to see he came to the club.
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I’d completely forgotten about him, when I saw the thread in the recent posts section I thought he was a new signing!
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Ah thank you. I take it that's in Birmingham, England. Because it looks like the Villa signs. Anyway it's good to see he came to the club.
It's definitely not Birmingham, Alabama.
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Yes I'm excited by him and he's already familiar with the Champions League
Rogers has been wonderful and expecting the same whenever Kosta Nedeljkovic turns up!
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Was wondering how he was doing this season then read this on wiki. Looks like he will fit in well
On 22 January 2024, Nedeljković signed for Premier League club Aston Villa, remaining at Red Star on loan until the end of the season.[7] The transfer fee was undisclosed, but it was reported to be around £8 million plus add-ons.[8][9]
After returning to Red Star on loan, Nedeljković suffered a knee injury during a warm weather training camp in Cyprus during the league's winter break and spent time on the sidelines.
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Wait till dEmitri* hears this news - he'll be claiming he was definitely right about our training regime ...
* the poster who makes the Grauniad look like the most well-proofread paper in the world.
Ive only just seen this. What a wierd little post this is
Not sure why you felt the need to post this ?
I wonder why Mister E posted you will be claiming it is our training regime around the time this news comes out?
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
As for the Grauniad comparison, a more recent example.
Thats the obvious reason but just as muxh thw need to gwt 5th a CL spot
But actually I just think his posting reasons were a mystery.....
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Wait till dEmitri* hears this news - he'll be claiming he was definitely right about our training regime ...
* the poster who makes the Grauniad look like the most well-proofread paper in the world.
Ive only just seen this. What a wierd little post this is
Not sure why you felt the need to post this ?
I wonder why Mister E posted you will be claiming it is our training regime around the time this news comes out?
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
As for the Grauniad comparison, a more recent example.
Thats the obvious reason but just as muxh thw need to gwt 5th a CL spot
But actually I just think his posting reasons were a mystery.....
Yeah makes so much sense that a player that doesnt even play for us yet im gonna blame villa for his injury. Even the post all i did was as the question thats all. I didnt go in all guns blazing Thats actually ridiculous 😂😂😂
You giys got too much time on your hands 😂
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Yes. very ridiculous. Never seen anything like that in your posts ever.
On a separate note, here's this weeks coupon.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c5/90/2c/c5902cdcd0b7abc8112e203ad164bee4.jpg)
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Wait till dEmitri* hears this news - he'll be claiming he was definitely right about our training regime ...
* the poster who makes the Grauniad look like the most well-proofread paper in the world.
Ive only just seen this. What a wierd little post this is
Not sure why you felt the need to post this ?
.... Mainly because you were expounding a theory 2-3 months' ago that Villa's training regime was a cause for our injury situation. For a player who we signed and immediately loaned back to his Serbian roots to then get injured seemed like an amusing coincidence.
And then there's your idiosyncratic posting style ...
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Yes. very ridiculous. Never seen anything like that in your posts ever.
On a separate note, here's this weeks coupon.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c5/90/2c/c5902cdcd0b7abc8112e203ad164bee4.jpg)
Your posts are so childish at times honestly do you not have anything better to do with your time than spamming the thread with rubbish that has nothing to do with our promising rb ? Its been a good week on here so why you carrying on this nonsense?
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I’m positing that someone called Demetri is not a native English speaker and if so, we should only take the piss out of his English if we can speak his language fluently and/or we are comfortable with appearing somewhat Faragist.
If he is English then I will apologetically step down from my soapbox.
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I think need to agree on what he will be called. Personally if Nedeljkovic isn't an issue then people should respect his surname and use that.
There's been some discussions on nicknames you see for players and what people prefer to use and also I would anticipate people not choosing to use his full name but would call him Ned.
Ned Nederlander, was one of the three protagonists in the 1986 western comedy Three Amigos!
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I think need to agree on what he will be called. Personally if Nedeljkovic isn't an issue then people should respect his surname and use that.
There's been some discussions on nicknames you see for players and what people prefer to use and also I would anticipate people not choosing to use his full name but would call him Ned.
Ned Nederlander, was one of the three protagonists in the 1986 western comedy Three Amigos!
Bit of a left field suggestion this, but perhaps we could call him Kosta Nedeljkovic?
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Unfortunately for me it will be Kostas Kezakebabhouse which is what some wag at our school tagged the son of the local chippy owner who was called Kostas. It has stuck in my mind now for anyone called Kostas.
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I think need to agree on what he will be called. Personally if Nedeljkovic isn't an issue then people should respect his surname and use that.
There's been some discussions on nicknames you see for players and what people prefer to use and also I would anticipate people not choosing to use his full name but would call him Ned.
Ned Nederlander, was one of the three protagonists in the 1986 western comedy Three Amigos!
Bit of a left field suggestion this, but perhaps we could call him Kosta Nedeljkovic?
That's not just leftfield but outrageous!
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I actually had already started calling him 'Ned'.
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Ned works. It's affectionate and based on his name. Not a shoehorned-in joke.
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I hear only full names are allowed on the forum, so it's Kosta Nedeljkovic Esquire.
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I think need to agree on what he will be called. Personally if Nedeljkovic isn't an issue then people should respect his surname and use that.
There's been some discussions on nicknames you see for players and what people prefer to use and also I would anticipate people not choosing to use his full name but would call him Ned.
Ned Nederlander, was one of the three protagonists in the 1986 western comedy Three Amigos!
Bit of a left field suggestion this, but perhaps we could call him Kosta Nedeljkovic?
That's not just leftfield but outrageous!
No one will ever refer to him on here by his correct surname. Look how shit they are/were with "Clarke" and "Rodgers".
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I'd expect more of a cluster on the lines of 'Zaniolia' etc.
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I'd expect more of a cluster on the lines of 'Zaniolia' etc.
That one does my head in.
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As long as the lad's good what does it matter what we call him?
Wait! Brava = Good.
Kosta Brava!
I'll get my coat 😆.
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All of this presupposes he actually ever plays for us!
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All of this presupposes he actually ever plays for us!
King Nedders? Of course he will.
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I would name him after my fave Simpson character!
Nedward "Ned" Flanders Jr. a fictional character in the animated television series The Simpson.
Despite being fictional he's a decent clean living church loving guy!
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I think need to agree on what he will be called. Personally if Nedeljkovic isn't an issue then people should respect his surname and use that.
There's been some discussions on nicknames you see for players and what people prefer to use and also I would anticipate people not choosing to use his full name but would call him Ned.
Ned Nederlander, was one of the three protagonists in the 1986 western comedy Three Amigos!
Bit of a left field suggestion this, but perhaps we could call him Kosta Nedeljkovic?
That's not just leftfield but outrageous!
No one will ever refer to him on here by his correct surname. Look how shit they are/were with "Clarke" and "Rodgers".
And irieb, irob, err Tim.
Yes I mean Iroegbunam.
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Despite being fictional he's a decent clean living church loving guy!
Being fictional is very apt if you ask me.
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Has Ned actually signed yet?
Ned?
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I think need to agree on what he will be called. Personally if Nedeljkovic isn't an issue then people should respect his surname and use that.
There's been some discussions on nicknames you see for players and what people prefer to use and also I would anticipate people not choosing to use his full name but would call him Ned.
Ned Nederlander, was one of the three protagonists in the 1986 western comedy Three Amigos!
Bit of a left field suggestion this, but perhaps we could call him Kosta Nedeljkovic?
That's not just leftfield but outrageous!
No one will ever refer to him on here by his correct surname. Look how shit they are/were with "Clarke" and "Rodgers".
I will...
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Has Ned actually signed yet?
Ned?
Ned Ryerson?
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I’m going to call him the Atomic Dustbin
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All of this presupposes he actually ever plays for us!
Supposin', supposin', three men were frozen
Two died, how many were left?
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Has Ned actually signed yet?
Ned?
Ned Ryerson?
One Ned Ryerson on here is more than enough.
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Has Ned actually signed yet?
Ned?
Ned Ryerson?
One Ned Ryerson on here is more than enough.
Oh he's from the classic movie Groundhog Day.
Annoying character but played his part well!
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Has Ned actually signed yet?
Ned?
Ned Ryerson?
One Ned Ryerson on here is more than enough.
Oh he's from the classic movie Groundhog Day.
Annoying character but played his part well!
Well, while some may find the character annoying, others might argue that his portrayal was essential to the movie's comedic tone and overall message. Plus, the actor's performance effectively conveyed the repetitive nature of the protagonist's predicament, adding depth to the storyline.
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Yes that's a great assessment and perspective.
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Well, while some may find the character annoying, others might argue that his portrayal was essential to the movie's comedic tone and overall message. Plus, the actor's performance effectively conveyed the repetitive nature of the protagonist's predicament, adding depth to the storyline.
If you listen to the actor Tobolowski's life story.....
He stayed on a ranch where a young Charles Manson used to live, and has had several psychic events which led to Talking Heads writing the song Radio Head about him, which the later band took used to inspire their name.
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All of this presupposes he actually ever plays for us!
KNVillan will be disappointed if he doesn't.
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I'm sure if he's rubbish someone will wheel out KostaLotta.
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I'm sure if he's rubbish someone will wheel out KostaLotta.
Haha that's a good one very witty.
I have one! So if he does well or not so well we can say Kosta Brava Bravo
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I'm sure if he's rubbish someone will wheel out KostaLotta.
Albion fans will anyway, the comic geniuses that they are.
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Well, Albion fans and Footy-Vill !
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These are exactly the headline puns that a British media Backpage would use.
They are fun to create and they are fun to see!
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I think Kosta Nedeljkovic can't be referred to as Ned by McGinn or in Scotland because Ned is a non-educated delinquent in the Scottish language.
I think have to be aware of type of nicknames because they can be offensive or misunderstood.
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We don't need to make up a load of nicknames. Just use a player's actual name?
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Has Ned actually signed yet?
Ned?
Ned Ryerson?
Ned, Ned Ryerson. That’s what happened to Kostas he was punched by an opponent called Connor’s.
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FVs nickname could be Fiona Harvey.
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I think Kosta Nedeljkovic can't be referred to as Ned by McGinn or in Scotland because Ned is a non-educated delinquent in the Scottish language.
I think have to be aware of type of nicknames because they can be offensive or misunderstood.
Or he could be called Ned because that's part of his surname? Not everything needs to have such sinister connotations.
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We don't need to make up a load of nicknames. Just use a player's actual name?
It's way too long!
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We don't need to make up a load of nicknames. Just use a player's actual name?
It's way too long!
Kosta is shorter than Eamonn! lol
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How dare you.
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I think need to agree on what he will be called. Personally if Nedeljkovic isn't an issue then people should respect his surname and use that.
There's been some discussions on nicknames you see for players and what people prefer to use and also I would anticipate people not choosing to use his full name but would call him Ned.
Ned Nederlander, was one of the three protagonists in the 1986 western comedy Three Amigos!
Bit of a left field suggestion this, but perhaps we could call him Kosta Nedeljkovic?
Exactly…. Kosta Nedeljkovic the Serbian Cafu
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Is it effectively a completely silent 'j' for a thick as pig shit English speaker?
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Doesn't it form a y sound? (not why)
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Doesn't it form a y sound? (not why)
Yes, as in Bosko Jankovic (all hail, RIP)
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Doesn't it form a y sound? (not why)
My uneducated tongue can't fit it in. Is it like Nuh-del-yu-kov-itch? I get the J being a Y at the start of a name, but I don't know how to fit it in between the ending of the L sound and the start of the K.
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Doesn't it form a y sound? (not why)
My uneducated tongue can't fit it in. Is it like Nuh-del-yu-kov-itch? I get the J being a Y at the start of a name, but I don't know how to fit it in between the ending of the L sound and the start of the K.
Listening to the 2 pronunciations on YouTube (if they're reliable), you pretty much don't hear the J/Y, so I can get away with forgetting it exists.
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Doesn't it form a y sound? (not why)
My uneducated tongue can't fit it in. Is it like Nuh-del-yu-kov-itch? I get the J being a Y at the start of a name, but I don't know how to fit it in between the ending of the L sound and the start of the K.
I think it's Ned-lyer-kovich, although when googled it's shown as Nuh-del-kovich.
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Serbia are in the Eurovision final.
So listening to the Serbia pronunciation from Teya Dora in song called Ramonda may be helpful.
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Serbia are in the Eurovision final.
So listening to the Serbia pronunciation from Teya Dora in song called Ramonda may be helpful.
That made me chuckle. :)
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Finally back playing.
Came on in the 59th minute on Saturday in Serbian SuperLiga play-off game.
I think that's the Serbian league finished.
Wonder if he'll make the Serbian Euros squad given his lengthy injury absence?
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I wonder if he's in for another year with them, seeing as he was injured straight away?
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Finally back playing.
Came on in the 59th minute on Saturday in Serbian SuperLiga play-off game.
I think that's the Serbian league finished.
Wonder if he'll make the Serbian Euros squad given his lengthy injury absence?
They named their extended squad at the weekend, he's not in it.
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He should be joining us for pre-season before any decision is made, you would think.
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Finally back playing.
Came on in the 59th minute on Saturday in Serbian SuperLiga play-off game.
I think that's the Serbian league finished.
Wonder if he'll make the Serbian Euros squad given his lengthy injury absence?
They named their extended squad at the weekend, he's not in it.
Cheers AV84.
I only checked the UEFA site - Serbia (along with most nations) have yet to name their official tournament squad. Didn't think to see if he was in the interim squad for the upcoming friendlies.
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Finally back playing.
Came on in the 59th minute on Saturday in Serbian SuperLiga play-off game.
I think that's the Serbian league finished.
Wonder if he'll make the Serbian Euros squad given his lengthy injury absence?
They named their extended squad at the weekend, he's not in it.
Cheers AV84.
I only checked the UEFA site - Serbia (along with most nations) have yet to name their official tournament squad. Didn't think to see if he was in the interim squad for the upcoming friendlies.
According to the squad list on wikipedia, Serbia have announced an interim squad of 35, and he's not in it.
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I would hope whatever happens that he is here until January before any loans etc…full pre season and few months to acclimatise to English football. Would be lovely if he hits the ground running and is in squad as a regular from the off.
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Just reading up on him, didn’t realise he was so fast. Pace comparable to Alphonso Davies apparently, that’s a big plus.
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📲 Kosta Nedeljković on Instagram:
“I like this”
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSt_U0cWoAAUOhS?format=jpg&name=small)
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📲 Kosta Nedeljković on Instagram:
“I like this”
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSt_U0cWoAAUOhS?format=jpg&name=small)
Cheerful bloke, eh?
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📲 Kosta Nedeljković on Instagram:
“I like this”
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSt_U0cWoAAUOhS?format=jpg&name=small)
Tell your face .
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Kosta Nedeljkovic interview with Serbian outlet Nogomania.
https://m.nogomania.rs/Mobilna-vest/Kosta-Nedeljkovic-za-Nogomania-rs-Izboricu-se-za-prvih-11-u-Aston-Vili-Dragan-Stojkovic-Piksi-me-s-pravom-nije-zvao-na-EURO-2024 (https://m.nogomania.rs/Mobilna-vest/Kosta-Nedeljkovic-za-Nogomania-rs-Izboricu-se-za-prvih-11-u-Aston-Vili-Dragan-Stojkovic-Piksi-me-s-pravom-nije-zvao-na-EURO-2024)
Apologies, I don't know how to shorten the link. The quoted text below is just a computer translated version, so not 100% accurate.
What are your first expectations from Aston Villa?
" I believe that I will be able to fight in Aston Villa, just like I did in Zvezda. I always give my best and I think it will pay off. I have always done excellent preparations, now there is a tour to America, so we will see how it will look like ".
About the Premier League?
" For me, the Premier League is the ideal league. In England, it's important to be energetic, speed, especially since it's my greatest quality, as well as duel play. Dribbling, shots and actions. Strong intensity describes me and that's my style of play. In Spain and other countries are more important, the players are lower in my position and it is different. The Premier League has always been the most demanding of all. I think I will do well ."
Are you expecting a loan move from Aston Villa, knowing you have signed a multi-year contract?
" I expect myself to be in the starting 11 from August. If I am in the combination at all, it will really be a success and if I enter the Premier League. In Belgrade, I have two or three training sessions a day, I train to be never better. I want to be at a higher level level, to the maximum, so that I could show myself at the preparations and "cement" the place. Wherever the loan is, I have no problem with that. Ideally, I would be there ."
Would you be happy to be part of a club from the Championship?
" If it happens, I don't have a problem with that. Whatever happens, I need to play. If it's Aston Villa, it will be a great success. I'm ready and I believe I'll play right away. I'm not thinking about not being there. If it doesn't happen, it's up to me to play and progress, so wherever ".
What do you think of Aston Villa coach Unaji Emery?
" What I have seen in the past month is that he is a great professional. I have never seen such dedication anywhere. He draws for the players in the gym what they should do while they are working, on the field he also draws everything himself and shows, he wonders. He does all the analysis. When I was injured, gym at 9:00 a.m., then therapy in the afternoon. When I used to come to the stadium at 6:00 p.m., he's still there from 8:00 a.m. I return to the hotel later, and he further in the stadium. That was fascinating to me, that 12 hours is so dedicated ."
What does the Aston Villa sports center look like?
"I was speechless. They built it almost, renovated it three, four years ago. Twenty courts, a spa center, dentists...Many offices, a basketball court in the hall. The highest level ."
As PaulWinch mentioned above, sounds like we should expect explosive pace...
Which I am here for all day, every day...
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“In Belgrade, I have two or three training sessions a day, I train to be never better.”
How very Ross McCormack of him.
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He’ll be fine when his self-confidence improves…
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There were promising signs last night, especially considering how young he is.
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There were promising signs last night, especially considering how young he is.
what did you like about him ? I have not seen any of the highlights
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There were promising signs last night, especially considering how young he is.
what did you like about him ? I have not seen any of the highlights
Quick, mobile, good touch. Didn't get to see too much of his actual defending as he wasn't really tested but going forward he was hampered a bit by Young and Bailey who were pretty lack-lustre in comparison. His fitness seemed better than theirs.
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I thought Kaden Young was excellent.
Not that pre season friendlies tell us much.
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There were promising signs last night, especially considering how young he is.
Yes bizarre to think he’s 2 years younger than KKH, who for some reason I still think as one of the academy kids
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We have our own dentist? Maybe the new Ireland manager should apply for the Villa once Unai quits.
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We have our own dentist? Maybe the new Ireland manager should apply for the Villa once Unai quits.
He'll be a shoo-in after winning the World Cup.
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Could be seen as filling a gap.
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It could crown his career.
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I'd have to question thé wisdom of such an appointment.
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Could be seen as filling a gap.
Probably a false dawn
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He'll bridge the gap between now and the next tournament.
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They might put up a plaque in his honour.
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i see no wisdom in this
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Get the Villa job, and he wouldn't have a caries in the world.
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Fangs but no fangs
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I'd have to question the wisdom of such an appointment.
i see no wisdom in this
Ahem!
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Having watched the highlights from yesterday is it "Ned-el-kyovich" (which I'd assumed) or "Ned-ellly-kovich" as the commentator was saying?
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I think you were right first time Paul.
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I don't know why, because I didn't watch him yesterday & I don't know too much about him ability wise, other than he has pace, but I have a gut feeling that this kid is going to be superb...
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We need to see him up against a tricky / pacy wide man and see if he can do the key job of defending.
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I don't know why, because I didn't watch him yesterday & I don't know too much about him ability wise, other than he has pace, but I have a gut feeling that this kid is going to be superb...
He certainly didn't look lacking in confidence last night. I thought he looked really promising.
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I think you were right first time Paul.
Thanks, I was pretty sure it would be that but the commentator last night had me wondering if he knew something I didn't.
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He did well last night.
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He did well last night.
Agreed. Him, Enzo and Young were the standouts for me. Swinkels looked very assured too. Not quite sure if it was unconscious bias, but Gauci seemed very assured on the ball too.
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Having watched the highlights from yesterday is it "Ned-el-kyovich" (which I'd assumed) or "Ned-ellly-kovich" as the commentator was saying?
Doesn’t the ‘j’ add the ‘ye’ sound? And since it is after the ‘l’, that would make it ‘ellye-kovich’?
I have no idea, mind.
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Having watched the highlights from yesterday is it "Ned-el-kyovich" (which I'd assumed) or "Ned-ellly-kovich" as the commentator was saying?
Doesn’t the ‘j’ add the ‘ye’ sound? And since it is after the ‘l’, that would make it ‘ellye-kovich’?
I have no idea, mind.
I'm basing this on Albanian, so it could be totally wrong (come on, they're both Balkan and have a rich history of mutual fraternity), but I think the J is either a Y-sound or silent.
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So from that little lesson I know it is going to be pronounced Neddy.
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(https://i.ibb.co/mTHshvJ/Avfc-scooter-riders.png) (https://ibb.co/mTHshvJ)
Above is an image of a group of Villa players on Electric Scooters.
Taken on USA Tour seemingly by the White House.
Kosta Nedeljkovic is involved.
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He’s like a young John Gidman :-)
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I think you were right first time Paul.
Pink Glove?
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Cue headlines like 'Aston Villa player involved in scooter accident'.
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All the Spanish speakers. Soon they'll outnumber the others, just as Emery always planned.
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(https://i.ibb.co/mTHshvJ/Avfc-scooter-riders.png) (https://ibb.co/mTHshvJ)
Above is an image of a group of Villa players on Electric Scooters.
Taken on USA Tour seemingly by the White House.
Kosta Nedeljkovic is involved.
Can we please have confirmation this is outside The White House and not just outside a white house?
Is it worth replicating this post in the threads of all culpable players?
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(https://i.ibb.co/mTHshvJ/Avfc-scooter-riders.png) (https://ibb.co/mTHshvJ)
Above is an image of a group of Villa players on Electric Scooters.
Taken on USA Tour seemingly by the White House.
Kosta Nedeljkovic is involved.
"No Villa shirts were involved in this shoot".
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All the Spanish speakers. Soon they'll outnumber the others, just as Emery always planned.
It's an invasion. We need our country....city....town....village....streets back.
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(https://i.ibb.co/mTHshvJ/Avfc-scooter-riders.png) (https://ibb.co/mTHshvJ)
Above is an image of a group of Villa players on Electric Scooters.
Taken on USA Tour seemingly by the White House.
Kosta Nedeljkovic is involved.
Can we please have confirmation this is outside The White House and not just outside a white house?
Is it worth replicating this post in the threads of all culpable players?
Well it was a tricky decision on where to post.
Had considered a caption contest with such an image !
I think Kosta being 18 would be an avid e scooter rider and thought he deserved the credit!
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Are they insured to dick about on them scooters? What happens if they flop themselves?
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I assume its some kind of guided tour and there's probably a million forms to sign beforehand so nobody gets sued.
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I've not seen any of the pre-season games, how's he done?
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I've not seen any of the pre-season games, how's he done?
A fairly big lad who's pacy and likes to get forward. Overall, the first indications are pretty positive.
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He looked excellent when he came on last night, and I was shocked by just how quick he is - could be a real threat this season.
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I've not seen any of the pre-season games, how's he done?
Only seen that snippet of him last night. I like him. He's tall, pacey and direct. He's only 18 too. Could be great I think. I hadn't taken much notice of him before and hadn't even looked at his career so far on the basis he's one for the future. That he is, it might be the near future if that's what he's capable of.
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Thanks all, seems encouraging, albeit pre-season.
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I liked the bit where he was under pressure with the ball, but seeing space ahead of him he just knocked it up a few yards and then backed himself in the footrace to beat his man. He's going to cause a few teams problems as he progresses.
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He's got stacks of potential that's for sure. I'd expect him to have some involvement this season no doubt.
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He looks decent, pretty quick and with a good engine. Mind you, I thought that about Guilbert, and look how that turned out.
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He looks decent, pretty quick and with a good engine. Mind you, I thought that about Guilbert, and look how that turned out.
Guilbert was a good player for us I liked him to, wierd how things work out sometimes
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He was, although i think this lad looks a bit more 'robust' which will be better suited to our league. He's also a bit younger so more time to develop his game.
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So we don't think he'll be another of the young lads shipped out on loan to the Baggies, Lesta or one of those other smaller clubs?
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So we don't think he'll be another of the young lads shipped out on loan to the Baggies, Lesta or one of those other smaller clubs?
I think it’ll depend on if we bring another right back in.
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So we don't think he'll be another of the young lads shipped out on loan to the Baggies, Lesta or one of those other smaller clubs?
I think it’ll depend on if we bring another right back in.
..and sell Cash.
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I like the business we've done so far, but we really, really need to be looking at adding attacking players before we sign any more defenders or midfielders, surely?
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So we don't think he'll be another of the young lads shipped out on loan to the Baggies, Lesta or one of those other smaller clubs?
I think he'd be capable of playing in the senior squad, much like Duran is/was despite his youth. Like others have said though, presuming we keep Cash and if we sign someone else more senior who can play there as well, it's possible he could initially be loaned out so that he gets plenty of game time.
As for priorities for incoming signings i'd say another attacker would be the main priority but then maybe a right sided CB, or preferably someone that can play RCB and RB, like the guy from Feyenoord who can also play in midfield as well. He sounds ideal.
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Kosta will be excellent in years to come. What he might need is a bit of the old "slow trigger" wisdom Sir Graham shared with Tony Daley. Otherwise PL defenders will force him into mistakes as he flies down the wing .(bad crosses, pushed wide) and leave us exposed behind. Bags of potential though.
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I like the business we've done so far, but we really, really need to be looking at adding attacking players before we sign any more defenders or midfielders, surely?
The order doesn't matter does it?
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I like the business we've done so far, but we really, really need to be looking at adding attacking players before we sign any more defenders or midfielders, surely?
The order doesn't matter does it?
I suppose it does in a situation where we have finite amounts of money to spend - each player bought instead, reduces the size of the pot to fund purchases where we really need to get stronger
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I like the business we've done so far, but we really, really need to be looking at adding attacking players before we sign any more defenders or midfielders, surely?
The order doesn't matter does it?
Well the post I was replying to was talking abour the number one priority. We don't know how many more players we can or will bring in, so I'd argue if it's only one, then an attacker is more important. If we're still confident of selling Carlos and getting a replacement, then no, it doesn't really. But I'd still rather we had another attacker sooner rather than later with the season opener coming up.
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Reminds me of when we had a young Kyle Walker on loan, bags of pace going forward but very naive defensively.
Think we have a potentially great full back if he gets some game time and Unai does his usual in coaching him as he will.
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I like the business we've done so far, but we really, really need to be looking at adding attacking players before we sign any more defenders or midfielders, surely?
I’m more concerned about a proper decent centre back. That was our biggest weakness last season. Obviously he needs to be comfortable on the ball, but someone who is commanding from set pieces. We shipped a lot of goals last season.
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Reminds me of when we had a young Kyle Walker on loan, bags of pace going forward but very naive defensively.
Think we have a potentially great full back if he gets some game time and Unai does his usual in coaching him as he will.
We were fluid last season of Kamara dropping over to cover for the full back when one joined the attack. Unai will have them drilled with each knowing their responsibility.
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I like the business we've done so far, but we really, really need to be looking at adding attacking players before we sign any more defenders or midfielders, surely?
I’m more concerned about a proper decent centre back. That was our biggest weakness last season. Obviously he needs to be comfortable on the ball, but someone who is commanding from set pieces. We shipped a lot of goals last season.
Our biggest weakness last season was Cash at RB and seems to be so also start of this season so our number one priority now should be to get a new RB so we have two capable ones there in that new one and a maturing Ned OR a new RCB so that Konsa can be at RB with a maturing Ned.
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He looks a big lad for 18 and seems to be rapid too.
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When you read his social media stuff he doesn’t see himself as playing a bit part
he’s confident enough to believe he can be a regular starter
I suppose it all boils down to how it goes when he gets his chance
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What language does he socially mediate in ?
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What language does he socially mediate in ?
Nadsat.
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What language does he socially mediate in ?
X
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Do we fancy him to start v West Ham today ?
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Other than Onana, I feel like he's the most likely of the new lads to feature. I'm not sure he'll start but I could see him coming on around the same time Digne and Moreno usually get switched.
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Other than Onana, I feel like he's the most likely of the new lads to feature. I'm not sure he'll start but I could see him coming on around the same time Digne and Moreno usually get switched.
He played the majority of the last friendly, didn’t he? That made me think he might he starting.
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Do we fancy him to start v West Ham today ?
Be a tough debut if he's up against Bowen . Sometimes being thrown in at the deep end is best though .
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Wrong thread.
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Other than Onana, I feel like he's the most likely of the new lads to feature. I'm not sure he'll start but I could see him coming on around the same time Digne and Moreno usually get switched.
He played the majority of the last friendly, didn’t he? That made me think he might he starting.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if he did start. And I think he probably showed enough in preseason that he should definitely be in the conversation. I just also wouldn't be surprised if we stick with as many old faces as we can to start with.
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Yeah, I think tried and tested is the way we will go defensively for the opening games.
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Nice to have that option now though, on the right as well as on the left. Bring on some pace and a bit more of an attacking mindset.
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Yeah, everyone knows we like an attacking left, so to be able to bring on a pacey attacking right back will cause a few teams problems.
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He’s an exciting looking player going forward judging him by his game v Bilbao. Can he defend too?
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There's no way he's starting ahead of Cash or Konsa, surely.
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Do we fancy him to start v West Ham today ?
Be a tough debut if he's up against Bowen . Sometimes being thrown in at the deep end is best though .
He'll be up against Kudus, if he plays; Bowen tends to play on Wham's right side.
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There's no way he's starting ahead of Cash or Konsa, surely.
Suppose it depends on what way we line up. If it's 4 at the back then I'd assume Konsa is CB at the moment, given we haven't seen Carlos for weeks now. Which would mean it's between Cash and Nedeljkovic for RB.
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Clearly very talented as he’s a first teamer squad player at 18.
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Do we fancy him to start v West Ham today ?
Be a tough debut if he's up against Bowen . Sometimes being thrown in at the deep end is best though .
He'll be up against Kudus, if he plays; Bowen tends to play on Wham's right side.
Probably although I am expecting West Ham under Lopetegui to be a very different challenge to how they played under Moyes.
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Do we fancy him to start v West Ham today ?
Be a tough debut if he's up against Bowen . Sometimes being thrown in at the deep end is best though .
He'll be up against Kudus, if he plays; Bowen tends to play on Wham's right side.
His pace against Kudus could be very useful...
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Do we fancy him to start v West Ham today ?
Be a tough debut if he's up against Bowen . Sometimes being thrown in at the deep end is best though .
He'll be up against Kudus, if he plays; Bowen tends to play on Wham's right side.
His pace against Kudus could be very useful...
Agreed. He's a player that I would hope the manager will be brave about and give him gametime, because - building on his already-first team experience - he will definitely improve quickly.
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Yes, I agree.
Im looking forward to watching him grow at Villa over the next few seasons.
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Dan Bardell believes Diego Carlos will start ahead of Kosta Nedeljkovic against Arsenal.
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Is this another person who doesn't exist?
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I think he looks very impressive. For a 18 year old he did very well against a very good arsenal team
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Didn't know he was only 18, he can feel very proud of his performance.
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I had no problems with his display yesterday
A lot of players struggled to keep possession, especially in the first half
Bailey, Watkins in particular were wasteful with the ball , but if your narrative is you don’t think an 18-year-old is up to the task then you’re going to pick fault with his couple of mistakes and not anybody else’s
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Dan Bardell believes Diego Carlos will start ahead of Kosta Nedeljkovic against Arsenal.
Didn't get that right did he? I thought Kosta did well when he came on, he will only improve under Unai.
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I think it's quite clear that Diego's in the departure lounge.
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He sure is
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I think it's quite clear that Diego's in the departure lounge.
Maybe BE will spot him and post a photo.
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I had no problems with his display yesterday
A lot of players struggled to keep possession, especially in the first half
Bailey, Watkins in particular were wasteful with the ball , but if your narrative is you don’t think an 18-year-old is up to the task then you’re going to pick fault with his couple of mistakes and not anybody else’s
Trossard roasted him for the second goal. Fine defending one on one but has a lot to learn tactically. Didn't combine hardly at all with Bailey in possession either. Cash might be out for a while and right now we look a bit short in that position.
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Ned came on unexpectedly early and coped well, he shows much promise for the future.
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Think both full backs did well to bottle up Arsenal attacks in that half space. Apart from Saka getting that shot off, they didn't do a tap until what I'd describe as a fortunate ricochet, others might suggest being roasted, lead to their goal.
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Think both full backs did well to bottle up Arsenal attacks in that half space. Apart from Saka getting that shot off, they didn't do a tap until what I'd describe as a fortunate ricochet, others might suggest being roasted, lead to their goal.
Agreed, I thought Saka was made to look extremely ordinary yesterday.
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Think both full backs did well to bottle up Arsenal attacks in that half space. Apart from Saka getting that shot off, they didn't do a tap until what I'd describe as a fortunate ricochet, others might suggest being roasted, lead to their goal.
I agree with you, really harsh to blame Ned for their first.
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That backheel reminded me of God.
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I was eager to see this lad, he looks a real athlete.
That was a difficult match to be thrown into but overall he did fine and you can’t buy that level of experience at such a young age.
I would still like to see us strengthen on the right side of defence if the right option is available.
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For an 18 year old with no experience higher than the Serbian league he's looking a decent prospect and not out of place in the PL.
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Think both full backs did well to bottle up Arsenal attacks in that half space. Apart from Saka getting that shot off, they didn't do a tap until what I'd describe as a fortunate ricochet, others might suggest being roasted, lead to their goal.
He mentioned the second, not the first. Although Cash would have been caught out with the same move, the defence were trying to keep the line but a more experience player like Trossard saw the ball was on and did a lovely spin around. A half second later and he would have been offside. Of course that didn't lead to the goal as we had plenty of other opportunities to stop it including Martinez (although I think he was unsighted around Torres).
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Think both full backs did well to bottle up Arsenal attacks in that half space. Apart from Saka getting that shot off, they didn't do a tap until what I'd describe as a fortunate ricochet, others might suggest being roasted, lead to their goal.
Agreed, I thought Saka was made to look extremely ordinary yesterday.
I honestly believe he's the most overrated player in the PL.
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Saka is good player. But he has the media drooling over him after really one exceptional season. He’s been pretty average for a while. At least average relative to the hype. What rarely gets brought up by the media is that he is such a cheating, diving ******. Something Johnny Foreigner would have been criticized for by now.
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Saka is an excellent player, he's a whiny tart at times but that doesn't take away from how good he is.
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Saka is an excellent player, he's a whiny tart at times but that doesn't take away from how good he is.
Yeah, he is quality, I think people get blinded by the antics.
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Saka is a diving cheating little ****** . He is everything that's wrong with the modern game . Squealing with every tackle whilst looking at the ref. Grow some bolovks ******.
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Saka is a diving cheating little ****** . He is everything that's wrong with the modern game . Squealing with every tackle whilst looking at the ref. Grow some bolovks ******.
Also feigns injury when he's had a stinker. Great player, nice bloke apparently, but an absolute twat on the pitch at times.
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Saka has a really nice neck. Which is bizarre, because I've never thought that about anyone else, ever.
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Saka has a really nice neck. Which is bizarre, because I've never thought that about anyone else, ever.
What about some of those Cluedo characters? Some of those had tremendous necks.
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Saka has a really nice neck. Which is bizarre, because I've never thought that about anyone else, ever.
What about some of those Cluedo characters? Some of those had tremendous necks.
They do, but if he were a Cluedo character, he'd defo be in a crumpled heap at the bottom of the stairs, and the game would go on forever cos no fucker went near him.
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(https://i.ibb.co/GP2RRT7/IMG-1207.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GP2RRT7)
Now that’s a neck
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From. Family Fortunes (I think)
Name a bird with a long neck ...
Naomi Campbell
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Saka has a really nice neck. Which is bizarre, because I've never thought that about anyone else, ever.
What about some of those Cluedo characters? Some of those had tremendous necks.
And Gladstone Small had no neck at all
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Chris Neck.
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From. Family Fortunes (I think)
Name a bird with a long neck ...
Naomi Campbell
Also from Family Fortunes (70s US version)
Name something you can plug in...
A vibrator.
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Shard End gangster The Neck.
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well done young Kosta. Called up by Serbia.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWev2XWXUAAeljq?format=jpg&name=large)
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Shard End gangster The Neck.
I served him a few times in the Bradford, he was always polite.
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Bodymoor will be a ghost town at this rate!
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Ned's got some serious eyebrows. Reminds me of a cartoon character, is it yer man from Gorillaz?
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I think he and Enzo look like they could be half brothers.
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Looks like the lad did well on his international debut:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckg2l8r1xl2o
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"The 18-year-old, who is on loan at Red Star Belgrade." Good bit of research from the journalist.
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Why have we loaned him to Red Star Belgrade?
Edit: We haven't. Just typical sports journos knowing fuck all a out players outside the big 6. As you were.
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Clean sheet vrs Spain, too, where I think he’d have been marking Nico Williams
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Clean sheet vrs Spain, too, where I think he’d have been marking Nico Williams
Yep he was.
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It did make me smile when I saw he was supposedly on loan!
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Their coach confirms there that he would have been part of their Euro squad if he hadn't gotten injured. Funny he implies they didn't know where he was for a while. I assume he means they didn't know if he was at Villa or in Belgrade.
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Well done Ned.
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I would certainly start him against Everton
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I would certainly start him against Everton
The only other option is Konsa but then who plays CB? Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo so it has to be Ned.
If he can keep a clean sheet against the best team in the world then Everton shouldn't pose a problem.
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Their coach confirms there that he would have been part of their Euro squad if he hadn't gotten injured. Funny he implies they didn't know where he was for a while. I assume he means they didn't know if he was at Villa or in Belgrade.
Obviously related to the journalist ;)
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Shard End gangster The Neck.
I served him a few times in the Bradford, he was always polite.
Has a very pretty daughter. Lots of willpower/common sense required to keep away from her.
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I would certainly start him against Everton
The only other option is Konsa but then who plays CB? Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo so it has to be Ned.
If he can keep a clean sheet against the best team in the world then Everton shouldn't pose a problem.
When did he play against us? But in all seriousness, Argentina are the "best team in the world". It was the best team in Europe who he kept the clean sheet against.
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I would certainly start him against Everton
The only other option is Konsa but then who plays CB? Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo so it has to be Ned.
If he can keep a clean sheet against the best team in the world then Everton shouldn't pose a problem.
When did he play against us? But in all seriousness, Argentina are the "best team in the world". It was the best team in Europe who he kept the clean sheet against.
I think Spain would beat Argentina today. It was 2 years ago that Argentina won the WC.
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Well we will know next year maybe as the champs of UEFA and CONMEBOL will be playing each other.
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There's also very little doubt that Nico Williams is one of the best left sided forwards/wingers in the world right now so Ned did a great job there.
I'll be so annoyed when he goes to Arsenal/Chelsea in the summer.
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I would certainly start him against Everton
... Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo ...
... except that he already has played for the first team and did okay; not the finished article but not disastrous.
I think Nedeljkovic is going to be a star, in the not-too-distant future.
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I would certainly start him against Everton
... Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo ...
... except that he already has played for the first team and did okay; not the finished article but not disastrous.
I think Nedeljkovic is going to be a star, in the not-too-distant future.
It's not "except" he has played for the first team it's precisely "because" he has that I don't think he is ready. And he certainly isn't a PL right back.
I think Cash will find himself behind Ned in the RB pecking order very soon, if he isn't already.
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If its Kosta or Bogarde Saturday i'd go Kosta, though there are arguments to keep faith in Bogarde and let him recover a bit from the Leicester episode
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there are arguments to keep faith in Bogarde and let him recover a bit from the Leicester episode
There is no sound argument for that at all. We need to play our best 11 and in this case, it would be Ned at RB.
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Yes Ned at right back for me
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Edited. Can't be bothered.
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I’d give Ned the nod
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I would certainly start him against Everton
... Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo ...
... except that he already has played for the first team and did okay; not the finished article but not disastrous.
I think Nedeljkovic is going to be a star, in the not-too-distant future.
It's not "except" he has played for the first team it's precisely "because" he has that I don't think he is ready. And he certainly isn't a PL right back.
I think Cash will find himself behind Ned in the RB pecking order very soon, if he isn't already.
Not sure what Bogarde did so badly in the Leicester match that you are throwing him under the bus for? Was it the goal conceded?
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I would certainly start him against Everton
... Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo ...
... except that he already has played for the first team and did okay; not the finished article but not disastrous.
I think Nedeljkovic is going to be a star, in the not-too-distant future.
It's not "except" he has played for the first team it's precisely "because" he has that I don't think he is ready. And he certainly isn't a PL right back.
I think Cash will find himself behind Ned in the RB pecking order very soon, if he isn't already.
Not sure what Bogarde did so badly in the Leicester match that you are throwing him under the bus for? Was it the goal conceded?
He wasn't very good.
Could be nerves, first game and I'm sure he will improve. I would prefer to see him getting minutes here and there rather than starting important games.
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I would certainly start him against Everton
... Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo ...
... except that he already has played for the first team and did okay; not the finished article but not disastrous.
I think Nedeljkovic is going to be a star, in the not-too-distant future.
It's not "except" he has played for the first team it's precisely "because" he has that I don't think he is ready. And he certainly isn't a PL right back.
I think Cash will find himself behind Ned in the RB pecking order very soon, if he isn't already.
Not sure what Bogarde did so badly in the Leicester match that you are throwing him under the bus for? Was it the goal conceded?
He wasn't very good.
Could be nerves, first game and I'm sure he will improve. I would prefer to see him getting minutes here and there rather than starting important games.
Exactly this.
Suggesting someone isn't ready to start for us is absolutely not.throwing someone under the bus. He just isn't good enough at this time in my opinion.
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He was fine for 60-70 minutes but got sloppy when he was tired, which is something he can work on.
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I seem to remember similar mentions for Ned when he played against Arsenal. And similar "blame" for the goal against from some parties as well. Personally i would prefer a fullback there so would go for Ned, but think to judge a young player in a tough physical game as "not ready" when he was not in their usual position is a bit over the top.
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I think both of them look like very talented players who have everything they need to make it in the premier league but who aren't currently able to do a full 90 at the level needed.
Once Cash is back fit it changes but in the meantime I'd be happy to alternate between them with one playing for about an hour and then the other seeing the game out.
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I would certainly start him against Everton
... Bogarde is not ready to play for the first team imo ...
... except that he already has played for the first team and did okay; not the finished article but not disastrous.
I think Nedeljkovic is going to be a star, in the not-too-distant future.
It's not "except" he has played for the first team it's precisely "because" he has that I don't think he is ready. And he certainly isn't a PL right back.
I think Cash will find himself behind Ned in the RB pecking order very soon, if he isn't already.
Not sure what Bogarde did so badly in the Leicester match that you are throwing him under the bus for? Was it the goal conceded?
He wasn't very good.
Could be nerves, first game and I'm sure he will improve. I would prefer to see him getting minutes here and there rather than starting important games.
Exactly this.
Suggesting someone isn't ready to start for us is absolutely not.throwing someone under the bus. He just isn't good enough at this time in my opinion.
“Throwing someone under the bus” does not mean slagging someone off or criticising their performance (in this case).
It means making someone else take the blame for something bad by saying or communicating something which causes that to happen.
For example:
Sawiris: “These toilets are a fucking disgrace. Who allows this to happen?
Heck: “Oh, it was Ben Hatton’s idea, he didn’t think it would be a problem”
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For example:
Sawiris: “These toilets are a fucking disgrace. Who allows this to happen?
Heck: “Oh, it was Ben Hatton’s idea, he didn’t think it would be a problem”
"Bad English was over from France. A curry and a few pints and he'd blocked the whole of Minworth."
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I’d give Ned the nod
Sooner this Ned than Ned Ryerson.
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Phil?!
Phil Connors?!
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Aston Villa will pay a further €1.5m to Crvena Zvezda after Kosta Nedeljković made his international debut.
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Aston Villa will pay a further €1.5m to Crvena Zvezda after Kosta Nedeljković made his international debut.
The increase in ticket prices for the first two CL games should cover that.
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Seems to have fallen down pecking order for a starting spot.
I wonder if he ever heard of Wycombe Wanderers?
I think he'll be next starting in that game a week away.
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A Spanish right back is to come in.
So by all accounts the talk is for Kosta Nedeljković to be going in this window out on loan.
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I belive Emery said that was the idea with him? Have him in and around the squad and first team for the first half of the season and then loan him out to get regular playing time.
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I understand Ned was offered to Stoke (loan) but right-back is not one of their urgent needs at the moment.
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I belive Emery said that was the idea with him? Have him in and around the squad and first team for the first half of the season and then loan him out to get regular playing time.
Seems like a good plan. Maintaining a roster of say eight teenagers that alternate between being loan and being coached at the club each season. When 21 have a full season on loan. At 22 either get sold or graduate into the squad.
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You can tell his has loads of attributes you can’t teach, it’s just a case of refining him and building his experience.
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Dont want to sell i think he had huge potential. A loan would be great if we can get a club in europe to take him on loan. Even another pl club
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Shouldn’t we be using the Portuguese club for loans like Ned’s, or is the preference that he stays in England?
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All the talk is Ned going out on loan with two defenders Bade and Garcia coming in.
I would think he'll play more of a role next season.
Interesting to see which club he ends up at for loan.
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Shouldn’t we be using the Portuguese club for loans like Ned’s, or is the preference that he stays in England?
If it was me he certainly needs to build up strength and muscle to deal with the rigours of the Premiership so i would want him home based and Championship preferably
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Shouldn’t we be using the Portuguese club for loans like Ned’s, or is the preference that he stays in England?
If it was me he certainly needs to build up strength and muscle to deal with the rigours of the Premiership so i would want him home based and Championship preferably
Yep, think a loan needs to be in this country.
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Shouldn’t we be using the Portuguese club for loans like Ned’s, or is the preference that he stays in England?
If it was me he certainly needs to build up strength and muscle to deal with the rigours of the Premiership so i would want him home based and Championship preferably
Agree hookey
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Per Emery
"It’s not easy to change some players in this window. We did with Jaden [Philogene] and [Donyell] Malen and with Kosta [Nedeljkovic] - he is close to leaving"
On loan or being sold ?
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The plan was always to loan him so you would expect that's what he means.
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Hope it's just a loan as he's looked promising when called upon. Maybe Unai has a plan to offload Cash in the summer? There are many times he could have played over the last couple of years but Unai has preferred the Konsa route.
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It must be a loan, I thought he’d already said this was pretty much the plan.
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I like Kosta. If he goes on loan, I hope it's to an English club, as that would likely be better for his development.
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He has all the natural attributes you can’t teach, he just needs to shaped with some experience.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/february/03/nedeljkovic-heads-out-on-loan/
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Strange signing all round but clearly Emery doesn’t rate him assuming it includes the option to buy?
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/february/03/nedeljkovic-heads-out-on-loan/
There's absolutely no information on that page, are they just sending him out? Like Dick Whittington with a bag on a stick.
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⚪️🔴🔐 Kosta Nedeljiković leaves Aston Villa and joins RB Leipzig on loan deal with €15m buy option clause, add-ons included.
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What did we pay for him?
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What did we pay for him?
6 or 7 million I thought , surprised we are willing to sell
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Sounds like we would make a tidy PSR profit if he goes. I think he'll be really good, but not sure Unai rates him. Choosing not to bring him on when Cash went off the other day suggests not.
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It’s a shame I think he’s got lots of talent.
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Hopefully at Leipzig he will do really well - best of luck to him
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Strange one this.
Not surprised he has been loaned out as Emery indicated that was the plan, but very surprised we have given a buy option. I think he has shown enough talent to be a long term first choice right back for us. Emery also said in a recent interview that he was a decent pro with a level head, so doubt he is pushing for a transfer. PSR related methinks.
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I don't know what this lad has done but wouldn't it help PSR even more if he'd have played a bit more and proved himself so, if UE isn't convinced, we'd get a better sale price?
With the lack of defensive bodies, another outgoing that appears ill judged.
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Emery clearly doesn't trust him to do what's needed. We've signed Garcia, have Cash and therefore are covered at RB.
Good for the financials, not good for the team/squad.
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Emery clearly doesn't trust him to do what's needed.
Bit odd to make that conclusive a decision on someone who's just turned 19 though. And he's not playing many other 19 year olds. So he clearly trusts Ned more than anyone else of the same age.
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The last comments I saw from Unai were about him getting games and experience on loan, which sounded very much like he was still in our long-term plans.
That said, I guess if we can double our money on him, and Monchi thinks he can use that profit to get a better player in in the summer, then so be it!
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Emery clearly doesn't trust him to do what's needed.
Bit odd to make that conclusive a decision on someone who's just turned 19 though. And he's not playing many other 19 year olds. So he clearly trusts Ned more than anyone else of the same age.
Big step up from his previous league as well. This loan was always planned but maybe it only happens with a future fee in place. If it goes well and we want to keep him it just means that our 'job' is to convince him that next season he'll want to be with us and to reject the chance to make this permanent. It's a bit riskier than I'd like if we want to keep him but getting a chance to play more games is important.
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He'll probably get some games there, they looked Blues against us and we made heavier weather of the win than we should have.
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If he’s behind Garcia in the pecking order, he’ll get limited first team opportunities. Makes sense to loan and sell with a reasonable offer.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/february/03/nedeljkovic-heads-out-on-loan/
There's absolutely no information on that page, are they just sending him out? Like Dick Whittington with a bag on a stick.
A placeholder, a metaphor for the lad's time with us.
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Emery clearly doesn't trust him to do what's needed.
Bit odd to make that conclusive a decision on someone who's just turned 19 though. And he's not playing many other 19 year olds. So he clearly trusts Ned more than anyone else of the same age.
Perhaps, but he's hardly used him. Using 'trust' was perhaps the wrong word, I meant more that he didn't want to use him, that he's not ready etc. if we're agreeing and option to buy in the deal it suggests that Emery doesn't really want him.
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He featured regularly in pre season and was a sub in our first two games. Indeed he played over an hour against Arsenal.
Hardly anything since then which indicates Unai saw things in that game which he deemed not good enough for the prem and then Bogarde leapfrogged him in the pecking order.
Even though they were poor in the CL Leipzig are a regular top 4 team in Bundesliga so this is a great move for him and he's clearly highly rated in Europe.
I get the feeling this is a ploy by us to get first dibs on Geertruida as we wanted him in the summer and by all accounts he's struggled for them. He is more of the profile we're looking at for RCB/RB so sure he'll still be of interest if he's available.
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The fact he's going to Leipzig and not a Championship side suggests he's a little higher thought of than our homegrown players of the same age.
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The fact he's going to Leipzig and not a Championship side suggests he's a little higher thought of than our homegrown players of the same age.
Not sure what's the shock. He was starting for Serbia away to Spain as recently as October so a starter for top 15 European nation dosen't tend to end up in second tier leagues
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The fact he's going to Leipzig and not a Championship side suggests he's a little higher thought of than our homegrown players of the same age.
Not sure what's the shock. He was starting for Serbia away to Spain as recently as October so a starter for top 15 European nation dosen't tend to end up in second tier leagues
There is no shock. Some think him going on loan means Emery doesn't rate him. I'm pointing out the fact he's gone there suggests he's rated.
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The purchase clause is a little odd though.
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Am I the only one struggling to understand the logic of the Nedeljkovic signing. We knew he was 17-18 when we signed him and he's clearly good based on getting into the Red Star and Serbia national teams. At the same time Cash has missed a lot of games, so we have been desperate for a stand-in RB. Despite this his game time has been very limited, while Konsa, Bogarde, Garcia and Uncle Tom Cobley have all started games and underwhelmed at RB.
If I was him I'd be very frustrated and after 2 years I'd be really happy to leave the Villa.
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The purchase clause is a little odd though.
I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.
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I'd agree with you, I thought he'd get a shot at playing more.
I suppose we all just now have to accept that some players are bought for the manager, and some are bought for the accountants.
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The purchase clause is a little odd though.
I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.
If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him for the price we've agreed to sell him at?
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The purchase clause is a little odd though.
I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.
If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him?
I don't think the buy clause means we have to accept their offer, does it? If another team bids more we can sell to them. It just sets a price in advance that means if they want to buy him, that's the asking price for them. If he does really well but we're still open to selling, then other clubs showing interest will have to offer more than Liepzig.
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The purchase clause is a little odd though.
I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.
If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him?
I don't think the buy clause means we have to accept their offer, does it? If another team bids more we can sell to them. It just sets a price in advance that means if they want to buy him, that's the asking price for them. If he does really well but we're still open to selling, then other clubs showing interest will have to offer more than Liepzig.
If we've included in the deal an option to buy him for €15m then they can buy him for €15m. It's there for them to choose to buy him, not to "guarantee a certain amount" of money to us. If they come back and say "we like him, but not for €15m, how about €11m?", then we can say yes or no as we see fit.
But we can't agree €15m as part of this deal and then say in the summer "no, sorry he's actually done pretty well for you so let's make it €20m instead".
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The purchase clause is a little odd though.
I dunno, I guess it just guarantees we get a certain amount for him. If he does really well we don't have to sell him, or if other clubs offer more, we can make more.
If he does really well, why wouldn't Leipzig just buy him?
I don't think the buy clause means we have to accept their offer, does it? If another team bids more we can sell to them. It just sets a price in advance that means if they want to buy him, that's the asking price for them. If he does really well but we're still open to selling, then other clubs showing interest will have to offer more than Liepzig.
If we've included in the deal an option to buy him for €15m then they can buy him for €15m. It's there for them to choose to buy him, not to "guarantee a certain amount" of money to us. If they come back and say "we like him, but not for €15m, how about €11m?", then we can say yes or no as we see fit.
But we can't agree €15m as part of this deal and then say in the summer "no, sorry he's actually done pretty well for you so let's make it €20m instead".
OK, but that's not what I said. If another club comes in and says we want him and we'll pay 20m, for example, are we legally bound to sell him for less to Leipzig?
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On the balance of probability, I'd say yes we are obligated to sell him to Leipzig for £15m, as thats part of the inducement to Leipzig to take his wages on.
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On the balance of probability, I'd say yes we are obligated to sell him to Leipzig for £15m, as thats part of the inducement to Leipzig to take his wages on.
We're obligated to accept their offer, but Ned isn't obligated to sign for them if there are other offers. Let's say he has an impact similar to the one Maatsen had at Dortmund this time last year, he might have other suitors, and better offers. We'll still only get £15m from Leipzig, but he may decide his future lies elsewhere (or even back here).
If he plays, and does okay, I expect him to go there in the summer.
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OK, but that's not what I said. If another club comes in and says we want him and we'll pay 20m, for example, are we legally bound to sell him for less to Leipzig?
Obviously without seeing the contracts we're all guessing, but my best understanding would be pretty much along the lines of the two posts above.
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Yes, but our friends question was specifically about Leipzig.
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Would have to say this seems the way buying up good potential young players and selling them on so to help profit and squad cost rules and regs.
Just another calf sold off in the cattle market.
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Various reports appearing on social media platforms that RB Leipzig are looking to sign him permanently. Fee of €10.5m base fee, plus €4.5m add-ons being quoted.
If we receive the full €15m, that will give us around €5.5m/£4.6m profit on the deal we agreed when he joined us.
Wonder if the deal with Red Star Belgrade included a sell-on clause?
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If it did and we're breaking even, feels like it's all been a bit of a waste of time.
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Am I the only one struggling to understand the logic of the Nedeljkovic signing. We knew he was 17-18 when we signed him and he's clearly good based on getting into the Red Star and Serbia national teams. At the same time Cash has missed a lot of games, so we have been desperate for a stand-in RB. Despite this his game time has been very limited, while Konsa, Bogarde, Garcia and Uncle Tom Cobley have all started games and underwhelmed at RB.
If I was him I'd be very frustrated and after 2 years I'd be really happy to leave the Villa.
Not two years. He was in Brum for 6 months.
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If it did and we're breaking even, feels like it's all been a bit of a waste of time.
He'll go down in folklore as our 1000th player though.
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Oh yeah! Forgot that!
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Definitely has raw talent. Pace and strength.
However, Garcia has played better for Villa.
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To be fair to lad Garcia is a couple of years older, and thanks to FFP we have to make a choice so there it is.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
Loan extension being reported.
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1944703455060185424?t=ep7sQjHacZxYChzhKC-zjA&s=08
The loan terms might be interesting. Wonder who had the upper hand in negotiations?
Have we upped the future purchase price?
And negotiated a slightly higher loan fee?
Have we got them to agree to pay all of Ned's wages - important for PSR.
Another year in the Bundesliga could well up his resale value should we want to cash in next summer, or give him the chance to show that he's worth bring into the squad.
Getting RB Leipzig to pay his wages for 12 months, will reduce his book value still further which will increase any book profit should we sell him
Hopefully a win-win for Villa.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
Loan extension being reported.
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1944703455060185424?t=ep7sQjHacZxYChzhKC-zjA&s=08
The loan terms might be interesting. Wonder who had the upper hand in negotiations?
Have we upped the future purchase price?
And negotiated a slightly higher loan fee?
Have we got them to agree to psy all of Ned's wages - important for PSR.
Another year in the Bundesliga could well up his resale value should we want to cash in next summer, or give him the chance to shoemaker that he's worth bring into the squad.
Hopefully a win-win for Villa.
I'm sorry, but that's cobblers.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
Loan extension being reported.
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1944703455060185424?t=ep7sQjHacZxYChzhKC-zjA&s=08
The loan terms might be interesting. Wonder who had the upper hand in negotiations?
Have we upped the future purchase price?
And negotiated a slightly higher loan fee?
Have we got them to agree to psy all of Ned's wages - important for PSR.
Another year in the Bundesliga could well up his resale value should we want to cash in next summer, or give him the chance to shoemaker that he's worth bring into the squad.
Hopefully a win-win for Villa.
I'm sorry, but that's cobblers.
Pardon?
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Getting the best deal should be our sole concern.
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Regarding his wages, who's going to foot the bill?
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Aston Villa can confirm that Kosta Nedeljković has joined RB Leipzig on a season-long loan.
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Regarding his wages, who's going to foot the bill?
His wages aren't massive so heel probably be paid by Leipzig.
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Bizarre one isn't it?
This time last year he was playing regularly in pre season, doing well and then featured v West Ham and Arsenal (he played over an hour at home to Arsenal).
However Unai clearly saw something in that period he didn't like one bit as then Bogarde suddenly leapfrogged him for RB and he was bang average in that period.
Then we loan him out to a club and eventually he gets in ahead of a player we seemingly wanted to sign last summer (Geertruida).
Everyone expects him to join them permanently but Leipzig don't want to pay 10m and so we just give them him on season loan anyway? Perhaps the permanent option has been moved to January as they have changed managers.
I think our right hand side is a bit of a mess currently.
Bogarde was no good at RB so I can't believe for one second he's seriously being considered for that area of the pitch again. Cash been a loyal servant and he knows the system but things like the last day hardly help him with the fanbase and Garcia is a bit like Ned, played two games and we've barely seen him for months after.
We can't play Konsa there because we don't have any back up for him at RCB. Disasi's poor efforts at RB also show we can't just sign any CB and stick them at RB.
It's not really an area of the pitch where we can just attempt to flip a young one with promise without actually giving him a serious chance imo.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
Loan extension being reported.
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1944703455060185424?t=ep7sQjHacZxYChzhKC-zjA&s=08
The loan terms might be interesting. Wonder who had the upper hand in negotiations?
Have we upped the future purchase price?
And negotiated a slightly higher loan fee?
Have we got them to agree to psy all of Ned's wages - important for PSR.
Another year in the Bundesliga could well up his resale value should we want to cash in next summer, or give him the chance to shoemaker that he's worth bring into the squad.
Hopefully a win-win for Villa.
I'm sorry, but that's cobblers.
Pardon?
SE looking for a shoeing.,.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
Loan extension being reported.
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1944703455060185424?t=ep7sQjHacZxYChzhKC-zjA&s=08
The loan terms might be interesting. Wonder who had the upper hand in negotiations?
Have we upped the future purchase price?
And negotiated a slightly higher loan fee?
Have we got them to agree to psy all of Ned's wages - important for PSR.
Another year in the Bundesliga could well up his resale value should we want to cash in next summer, or give him the chance to shoemaker that he's worth bring into the squad.
Hopefully a win-win for Villa.
I'm sorry, but that's cobblers.
Pardon?
SE looking for a shoeing.,.
Heel get the joke in a minute.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
Loan extension being reported.
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1944703455060185424?t=ep7sQjHacZxYChzhKC-zjA&s=08
The loan terms might be interesting. Wonder who had the upper hand in negotiations?
Have we upped the future purchase price?
And negotiated a slightly higher loan fee?
Have we got them to agree to psy all of Ned's wages - important for PSR.
Another year in the Bundesliga could well up his resale value should we want to cash in next summer, or give him the chance to shoemaker that he's worth bring into the squad.
Hopefully a win-win for Villa.
I'm sorry, but that's cobblers.
Pardon?
SE looking for a shoeing.,.
Heel get the joke in a minute.
Contract is laced with performance incentives.
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Bizarre one isn't it?
This time last year he was playing regularly in pre season, doing well and then featured v West Ham and Arsenal (he played over an hour at home to Arsenal).
However Unai clearly saw something in that period he didn't like one bit as then Bogarde suddenly leapfrogged him for RB and he was bang average in that period.
Then we loan him out to a club and eventually he gets in ahead of a player we seemingly wanted to sign last summer (Geertruida).
Everyone expects him to join them permanently but Leipzig don't want to pay 10m and so we just give them him on season loan anyway? Perhaps the permanent option has been moved to January as they have changed managers.
I think our right hand side is a bit of a mess currently.
Bogarde was no good at RB so I can't believe for one second he's seriously being considered for that area of the pitch again. Cash been a loyal servant and he knows the system but things like the last day hardly help him with the fanbase and Garcia is a bit like Ned, played two games and we've barely seen him for months after.
We can't play Konsa there because we don't have any back up for him at RCB. Disasi's poor efforts at RB also show we can't just sign any CB and stick them at RB.
It's not really an area of the pitch where we can just attempt to flip a young one with promise without actually giving him a serious chance imo.
KN never really impressed either, granted he didn't get all that many chances. He had a shocker of a cameo in the CL one night, was it ironically enough at RBL? Seems a bit odd as we scouted him for some time but Emery made up his mind very quickly. I'm not sure who benefits from another loan spell but definitely not us.
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It was Brugge away. However a few months later Disasi was even worse there in the knock outs and that is experienced defender. We also had him omitted from prem squads but Bogarde really struggled at RB in the games he played.
If we'd had a Digne type putting in 7 or 8/10 most weeks I could understand it but we don't.
The only thing I can say is perhaps club thought he was going to Leipzig permanently but they missed out on CL and changed manager so want more time to assess and there is probably option for him to sign on a permanent in January.
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I suspect he went because he wouldn't toe the line and Emery didn't him want to stirrup more trouble.
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It was Brugge away. However a few months later Disasi was even worse there in the knock outs and that is experienced defender. We also had him omitted from prem squads but Bogarde really struggled at RB in the games he played.
If we'd had a Digne type putting in 7 or 8/10 most weeks I could understand it but we don't.
The only thing I can say is perhaps club thought he was going to Leipzig permanently but they missed out on CL and changed manager so want more time to assess and there is probably option for him to sign on a permanent in January.
Cash was a 6 or 7/10 most games last season too. Takes a lot of undeserved flack. Big error at Old Trafford aside, he was one of our best players in that late season charge. That was with Rogers often not offering all that much ahead of him too.
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He hasn't really played for them that much, so I'm surprised to see this being reported. Maybe they see him as one for the future too.
Loan extension being reported.
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1944703455060185424?t=ep7sQjHacZxYChzhKC-zjA&s=08
The loan terms might be interesting. Wonder who had the upper hand in negotiations?
Have we upped the future purchase price?
And negotiated a slightly higher loan fee?
Have we got them to agree to psy all of Ned's wages - important for PSR.
Another year in the Bundesliga could well up his resale value should we want to cash in next summer, or give him the chance to shoemaker that he's worth bring into the squad.
Hopefully a win-win for Villa.
I'm sorry, but that's cobblers.
Pardon?
Think it was tongue in cheek