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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on December 23, 2023, 04:51:18 AM
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Time to move on.
A great opportunity to put ourselves right back in it and show we can bounce back ala Partridge 🎾
Win by two goals.
FTF 8)
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They'll definitely cheat, and win.
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This is a post.
I think we will win 1-3.
Also, how come we may vote for Win, Draw and Lose at the same time? Which I have done in order to have a hazy feeling of well-being about getting it right.
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Those fuckers will win this.
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This is a post.
I think we will win 1-3.
Also, how come we may vote for Win, Draw and Lose at the same time? Which I have done in order to have a hazy feeling of well-being about getting it right.
Villa finished runners-up to United in the inaugural season of the new division
Source: Google
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Yanited fans can google 2023-2024 next year. See what comes up. :-D
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I'd take the draw to keep us ticking over and the distance between us.
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Those fuckers will win this.
We hardly ever win on Boxing Day, and these fuckers seem to be fluking results vs the better teams, so this points to another win almost by accident for them. Especially so given that this is the team i most want us to beat, we still have three decades' worth of scores to settle.
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3-0 Villa. These did a Sheffield United on Liverpool the other day. They'll have to come out to play at home and this shall betray them.
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Really hope Pau is back for this. It’s not that Lenglet did particularly badly, although I think he’s primarily culpable for losing Archer for the goal, but you can just see the difference Pau makes. He’s just a different class.
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After the sheff Utd game we need to grab a win. Think we can do it.
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A win here and we'll forget about last night
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Poll amended.
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2-0.
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Just don't lose.
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Is ugly rat face available for them?
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Huge game for us.
Win and we are right in there both positionally and mentally, draw ok , lose and a big blow to our ambition.
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They play West Ham away today, hopefully some injuries suspensions etc especially rat face and Greggs Shaw
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Big game for us now after yesterday'
Tough one to predict as you don't know what villa or utd will turn up
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Time to move on.
A great opportunity to put ourselves right back in it and show we can bounce back ala Partridge 🎾
Win by two goals.
FTF 8)
Thanks for that but do ask the right question in the poll! Draw is NOT going to win ;D
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Big game for us now after yesterday'
Tough one to predict as you don't know what villa or utd will turn up
Do you think we've been inconsistent? The table would suggest otherwise!
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Time to move on.
A great opportunity to put ourselves right back in it and show we can bounce back ala Partridge 🎾
Win by two goals.
FTF 8)
Thanks for that but do ask the right question in the poll! Draw is NOT going to win ;D
Sorry, very careless of me. I am feeling a bit unwell at the moment as it happens but that's no excuse ;D
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Anyone who's going, beware of the food. I now feel bad for slagging off the Villa Chippy.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67808736
Manchester United have been told "major improvements" are needed to ensure food sold at Old Trafford is safe to eat.
The Premier League side have been given a one star out of five food hygiene rating after a Food Standards Agency inspection last month.
The Red Devils admitted "a small amount of undercooked meat was inadvertently served during a non matchday event".
"This was an isolated issue and the immediate failures were quickly addressed," the club said.
United said they are also conducting an independent food audit to identify any further areas of improvement.
"MUFC has taken this incident very seriously and wants to reassure our valued fans and customers that we maintain the highest culinary standards," the club added.
"The club is proud of the high standards and the five-star food hygiene record which had been awarded to us for the past eight years.
"Everyone at the club is determined to regain our five-star food hygiene status as quickly as possible."
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This lot will have to come at us and this will do us just nicely. Keep it tight at the back and we’ll do ok.
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We'll need to do what we did against Man City. They probably won't want to come at us like their neighbours did, but they still will have a go. We'll need our midblock working at peak function again, we'll need to dominate the one-on-one duels, we'll need to outnumber their options in midfield and time our runs better - and, for god's sake, get our throughballs right!
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Anyone who's going, beware of the food. I now feel bad for slagging off the Villa Chippy.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67808736
Manchester United have been told "major improvements" are needed to ensure food sold at Old Trafford is safe to eat.
The Premier League side have been given a one star out of five food hygiene rating after a Food Standards Agency inspection last month.
The Red Devils admitted "a small amount of undercooked meat was inadvertently served during a non matchday event".
"This was an isolated issue and the immediate failures were quickly addressed," the club said.
United said they are also conducting an independent food audit to identify any further areas of improvement.
"MUFC has taken this incident very seriously and wants to reassure our valued fans and customers that we maintain the highest culinary standards," the club added.
"The club is proud of the high standards and the five-star food hygiene record which had been awarded to us for the past eight years.
"Everyone at the club is determined to regain our five-star food hygiene status as quickly as possible."
'Everyone at the club', yeah Jaydon and Anthony are gutted and it's affecting their form.
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Sounds like they were poor today - guaranteed they get a lucky win against us.
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Guaranteed we'll fuck these into next week.
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Not won in 5 & not scored in last 4
3-1 Utd then .
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Not won in 5 & not scored in last 4
3-1 Utd then .
Antony hasn’t scored this season and Rashford has two to his name. Two each then, 4-1.
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Yep those fuckers always manage to do it against us.
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No chance of us winning this one. Manure are in a run of really poor form so, you just know that they’ll get a really dodgy VAR decision. It was always written thus.
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Which we could be a bit more positive! Believe!
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Was always more confident about this one than last night against the original United. 3-0 to us (maybe 3-1 if they get a dodgy penalty).
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Yep those fuckers always manage to do it against us.
We’ve won 2 out of the last 4 league meetings. We can do this.
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I really fancy us to win this one. Two nil Villa.
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No doubt that Hojiland will get his first prem goal .
happened to Andrew Cole and who was that fair haired foreign striker he didnt score for ages until he did it vs us (Diego Forlan)
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They'll definitely cheat, and win.
This unfortunately. As sure as night follows day.
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Well they got turned over again today - please Villa just FTF
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I dont see how anybody watched them today and thinks they'll do anything against us but get shovelled. They're absolute shite.
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(https://i.ibb.co/Vq17vFq/IMG-1413.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vq17vFq)
We all know what’s about to happen next.
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(https://i.ibb.co/Vq17vFq/IMG-1413.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vq17vFq)
We all know what’s about to happen next.
Yes - that record is extended to 15 league games.
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I wouldn't change it around too much. We desperately needed Dougie further forward last night, so I'd bring Big Donk in to shore up the defensive duties.
Martinez
Konsa DiegoCarlos Lenglet Digne
The Donk
Bailey Dougie McGinn
Diaby
Watkins
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I wouldn't change it around too much. We desperately needed Dougie further forward last night, so I'd bring Big Donk in to shore up the defensive duties.
Martinez
Konsa DiegoCarlos Lenglet Digne
The Donk
Bailey Dougie McGinn
Diaby
Watkins
Luiz will need to sit next to the Donk. His efforts to play on the half turn would be a disaster. Agreed on starting the Donk, McGinn was lost there last night and we lost his goal threat from midfield as a result. Only one of Diaby or Bailey for me and likely the latter on current form. Time to start Moreno too. Id go with Ramsey again on left.
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--------- Martinez -----------
Konsa Lenglet Carlos Digne
---- Luiz -- McGinn ---------
Zaniolo--------------- Ramsey
--- Bailey ----- Watkins ------
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Please win!
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Play the team and not the name and it's a 4-0 away smashing as far as I'm concerned.
I know I said won by two goals in the OP but I was feeling somewhat negative after last night. I now change it to four goals.
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If we can go in ahead or all square at HT I'd fancy us for a strong finish to the game
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They'll get the help they need to win.
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Them 1 - 3 Us
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Comfortable Villa win. 0-6 Watkins, Bailey x2, McGinn, Ramsey x 2. Fernandes sent off, and then breaks his foot kicking a water bottle at Ten Haag.
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--------- Martinez -----------
Konsa Lenglet Carlos Digne
---- Luiz -- McGinn ---------
Zaniolo--------------- Ramsey
--- Bailey ----- Watkins ------
Is Torres definitely out of this, i thought there was a good chance he would be back?
If he is I’d swap him for Lenglet, otherwise i’d be tempted to go with this team. Despite reservations about McGinn playing too deep, Im not sure Donk is the answer away from home.
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I hope Torres is back.
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I dont see how anybody watched them today and thinks they'll do anything against us but get shovelled. They're absolute shite.
Sheffield United say “hello”.
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I dont see how anybody watched them today and thinks they'll do anything against us but get shovelled. They're absolute shite.
Sheffield United say “hello”.
Hello.
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I dont see how anybody watched them today and thinks they'll do anything against us but get shovelled. They're absolute shite.
Sheffield United say “hello”.
I'll look forward to seeing them put 10 men behind the ball at Old Trafford.
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I dont see how anybody watched them today and thinks they'll do anything against us but get shovelled. They're absolute shite.
Sheffield United say “hello”.
I'll look forward to seeing them put 10 men behind the ball at Old Trafford.
Yep.
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--------- Martinez -----------
Konsa Lenglet Carlos Digne
---- Luiz -- McGinn ---------
Zaniolo--------------- Ramsey
--- Bailey ----- Watkins ------
Is Torres definitely out of this, i thought there was a good chance he would be back?
If he is I’d swap him for Lenglet, otherwise i’d be tempted to go with this team. Despite reservations about McGinn playing too deep, Im not sure Donk is the answer away from home.
i thought i heard he won't be ready but hopefully ok for Burnley
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Rasmus Højlund is a dead cert to score against us!
I still haven't got over Forlan scoring against us after his drought of however many matches it was.
Maybe I need to change my mindset, we are a different animal these days and it's about time we gave these bastards a jolly good spanking.
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Rasmus Højlund is a dead cert to score against us!
I still haven't got over Forlan scoring against us after his drought of however many matches it was.
Maybe I need to change my mindset, we are a different animal these days and it's about time we gave these bastards a jolly good spanking.
Or Macheda, the next big thing after scoring against us but never heard of against us.
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Given an expected return to winning ways at home, v Burnley next Saturday, I'd settle for us avoiding defeat on Boxing Day, all things considered. So another 1-1 draw, I reckon.
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Rasmus Højlund is a dead cert to score against us!
I still haven't got over Forlan scoring against us after his drought of however many matches it was.
Maybe I need to change my mindset, we are a different animal these days and it's about time we gave these bastards a jolly good spanking.
Or Macheda, the next big thing after scoring against us but never heard of against us.
Yeah I had that from all the Man utd fans how great he was going to be.
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Anyone who's going, beware of the food. I now feel bad for slagging off the Villa Chippy.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67808736
Manchester United have been told "major improvements" are needed to ensure food sold at Old Trafford is safe to eat.
The Premier League side have been given a one star out of five food hygiene rating after a Food Standards Agency inspection last month.
The Red Devils admitted "a small amount of undercooked meat was inadvertently served during a non matchday event".
"This was an isolated issue and the immediate failures were quickly addressed," the club said.
United said they are also conducting an independent food audit to identify any further areas of improvement.
"MUFC has taken this incident very seriously and wants to reassure our valued fans and customers that we maintain the highest culinary standards," the club added.
"The club is proud of the high standards and the five-star food hygiene record which had been awarded to us for the past eight years.
"Everyone at the club is determined to regain our five-star food hygiene status as quickly as possible."
The Villa Chippy
(The Villa Chippy)
Is better than this
(Is better than this)
Oh the Villa Chippy's better than this
It's got 2 rats and e.coli
The Villa Chippy's better than this
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I'd sing that!
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Rasmus Højlund is a dead cert to score against us!
I still haven't got over Forlan scoring against us after his drought of however many matches it was.
Maybe I need to change my mindset, we are a different animal these days and it's about time we gave these bastards a jolly good spanking.
Or Macheda, the next big thing after scoring against us but never heard of against us.
or Andrew Cole who opened his account against us there
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Given an expected return to winning ways at home, v Burnley next Saturday, I'd settle for us avoiding defeat on Boxing Day, all things considered. So another 1-1 draw, I reckon.
Typical that Burnley have suddenly hit some form with a shock away win at Fulham!
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
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Arguably we had 3 calls that went against us on Friday that should have gone the other way - a goal and two penalties- so you’d hope on the law of averages that’d balance out. Sadly we’re playing at Old Trafford, so we can guarantee a number of calls will go against us.
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3 penalties. Watkins, Konsa, handball, the goal.
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Yeah I’m not convinced on the Konsa one, but either way on the law of averages it’s pretty unfortunate to have all of them going against you.
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Yeah I’m not convinced on the Konsa one, but either way on the law of averages it’s pretty unfortunate to have all of them going against you.
or it’s deliberate
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Yeah it’s not deliberate, I’m not going to descend into Arsenal fan style conspiracy nonsense. I think for the disallowed goal it’s a philosophical issue with the application of VAR, I think sometimes they’re looking for a reason to disallow, rather than checking that there aren’t any material mistakes/misses from the on field decision.
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Yeah it’s not deliberate, I’m not going to descend into Arsenal fan style conspiracy nonsense. I think for the disallowed goal it’s a philosophical issue with the application of VAR, I think sometimes they’re looking for a reason to disallow, rather than checking that there aren’t any material mistakes/misses from the on field decision.
Agree with this. I stand correct but when we beat Brighton 6-1, I'm sure three of our goals were checked by VAR.
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Yeah it’s not deliberate, I’m not going to descend into Arsenal fan style conspiracy nonsense. I think for the disallowed goal it’s a philosophical issue with the application of VAR, I think sometimes they’re looking for a reason to disallow, rather than checking that there aren’t any material mistakes/misses from the on field decision.
I get that but it is difficult to understand how or why they seem to get so many things wrong, the lack of consistency regarding decisions and the use of VAR leads a lot of people to believe they are bringing the game in to disrepute.
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Don't think it's a conspiracy against us in particular, but I do think certain clubs get those decisions and the others usually don't. Was a miracle that the Arsenal goal against us was ruled out.
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I was convinced that we would batter Sheff Utd but get stitched up by VAR at Newton Heath. Perhaps it will be the other way 'round then?
Last game on Boxing Day for us always works out to be a load of old shite so let's hope Emery can stop this particular run, and the home side are likely to be more open which should allow us a bit more space in which to work.
I have a feeling it will be a bit tight, but a bit good in terms of the result.
0-1
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I'd definitely bring Carlos back in (for Cash and move Konsa to the right) to provide progressive passes from the back (assuming Pau is out). Otherwise unchanged. They'll be way more open than Sheff Utd, so no issues with Luiz and McGinn a bit deeper.
1-2 with an early Villa goal from Diaby.
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
Andrew Cole went a number of games without scoring when he joined them then got his first goal v us in a 1-0 home win , scored down the Stretford End , i was in the away end fuming
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It was his 3rd game for Man Utd.
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
Andrew Cole went a number of games without scoring when he joined them then got his first goal v us in a 1-0 home win , scored down the Stretford End , i was in the away end fuming
See also Diego Forlan, fucker couldn't buy a goal until we obliged.
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It was his 3rd game for Man Utd.
Three's a number.
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Forget Manure as they will be doing anything with VAR to give them a win and, hopefully, we can turn Burnley over. You just know that if any of the penalties we had turned down on Friday will be given to Manure without any hesitation.
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Wouldn't it be great to nick it in the last 10 minutes with us getting the dodgy penalty or offside call for a change.
It might just cause a rip in the space-time continuum.
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
Andrew Cole went a number of games without scoring when he joined them then got his first goal v us in a 1-0 home win , scored down the Stretford End , i was in the away end fuming
See also Diego Forlan, fucker couldn't buy a goal until we obliged.
Yep i was there for that one too. Fortunately i missed the Macarada goal
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
Andrew Cole went a number of games without scoring when he joined them then got his first goal v us in a 1-0 home win , scored down the Stretford End , i was in the away end fuming
See also Diego Forlan, fucker couldn't buy a goal until we obliged.
Yep i was there for that one too. Fortunately i missed the Macarada goal
I was there for the Macheda winner, well into Fergie time, as I recall. It was a great goal. admittedly, this was one of the games we should never have lost (like Arsenal away in 2019)
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
Andrew Cole went a number of games without scoring when he joined them then got his first goal v us in a 1-0 home win , scored down the Stretford End , i was in the away end fuming
See also Diego Forlan, fucker couldn't buy a goal until we obliged.
Yep i was there for that one too. Fortunately i missed the Macarada goal
I was there for the Macheda winner, well into Fergie time, as I recall. It was a great goal. admittedly, this was one of the games we should never have lost (like Arsenal away in 2019)
I turned a table over in a fit of rage surrounded by Taiwanese man Utd supporters in Tainan.
And was escorted off the premises.
A bad evening
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They’re going to complete their “takeover” today, wait for the bloody euphoric bounce.
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They’re going to complete their “takeover” today, wait for the bloody euphoric bounce.
until we score
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They’re going to complete their “takeover” today, wait for the bloody euphoric bounce.
until we score
Hopefully, but I’m sure we’ve all seen the unbelievable luck they’ve had over the years. If they’re going to play well in one game this year, this’ll be it. Hope I’m wrong and we twat them.
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Utd we're very cautious when we played there last season & continually played the ball behind our back line to break the offside trap.
I expect them to do exactly the same tomorrow. If we get the first goal they'll buckle.
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They can be take over by a consortium of the combined sovereign wealth funds of every member state of the United Nations - we will still bury them so deep they will be consumed by magma.
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Utd we're very cautious when we played there last season & continually played the ball behind our back line to break the offside trap.
I expect them to do exactly the same tomorrow. If we get the first goal they'll buckle.
just that one scrawny chance wasn't it off our goal kick, Rashford shot Martinez goes down in installments and rat features picks up the droppings
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
Andrew Cole went a number of games without scoring when he joined them then got his first goal v us in a 1-0 home win , scored down the Stretford End , i was in the away end fuming
See also Diego Forlan, fucker couldn't buy a goal until we obliged.
Yep i was there for that one too. Fortunately i missed the Macarada goal
I was there for the Macheda winner, well into Fergie time, as I recall. It was a great goal. admittedly, this was one of the games we should never have lost (like Arsenal away in 2019)
I turned a table over in a fit of rage surrounded by Taiwanese man Utd supporters in Tainan.
And was escorted off the premises.
A bad evening
the FA Cup game at Villa Park did me when we went from 2-0 up after 80 mins to losing 2-3 in Fergie time was it Solskaaer or Van Horse Face . I had to go and cool off in the back garden that evening
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A lot of understandable PTSD on this thread, Henrik Larsson. Even Phil Jones scored his first goal for them against us.
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A lot of understandable PTSD on this thread, Henrik Larsson. Even Phil Jones scored his first goal for them against us.
was that the FA Cup game ? I was at that one too, we had that scruffy keeper in goal in his joggers
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Utd we're very cautious when we played there last season & continually played the ball behind our back line to break the offside trap.
I expect them to do exactly the same tomorrow. If we get the first goal they'll buckle.
just that one scrawny chance wasn't it off our goal kick, Rashford shot Martinez goes down in installments and rat features picks up the droppings
It's that time of year when we forget what day it is. Glad to see I'm not the only one.
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I get the impression with Man U fans that they like this team because they have to like them versus wanting to like them. They will turn on them quickly if we get into them quickly and score.
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A lot of understandable PTSD on this thread, Henrik Larsson. Even Phil Jones scored his first goal for them against us.
was that the FA Cup game ? I was at that one too, we had that scruffy keeper in goal in his joggers
Yeah, I only had it on TV. Although that’s sometimes worse given I had the sound on and the sycophantic commentary.
Gabor Kiraly
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A lot of understandable PTSD on this thread, Henrik Larsson. Even Phil Jones scored his first goal for them against us.
was that the FA Cup game ? I was at that one too, we had that scruffy keeper in goal in his joggers
Yeah, I only had it on TV. Although that’s sometimes worse given I had the sound on and the sycophantic commentary.
Gabor Kiraly
Only been to Old Trafford twice.
The last minute Kiraly goal through his legs after Milan Baros equalised?
Also the 1996 FA Cup Semi Final against Liverpool which didn't go well either!
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Ffs. There's always something isn't there.
We'll still give them a good scudding
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Is Rashford really going to be suitably roused because Ineos have bought a 25% share?
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A few years ago I'd have assumed the worst. However, these days I go in to games at Old Trafford - not exactly optimistic, but with at least an element of hope.
I'm watching it on telly with my 'Welsh red' in laws, so hopefully I'll manage to make myself thoroughly unwelcome to stay by Boxing Day tea :)
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Is Rashford really going to be suitably roused because Ineos have bought a 25% share?
He's probably more concerned that the starlight ceiling, games consoles and TV are all working properly in his chauffeur-driven Mercedes van.
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over on Red Cafe this is one of their suggested line ups
------------------------------------------------------ Onana -------------------------------------------------------------
-------- Antony - W.Bisakka - Amrabat -- Evans - Varane - Shaw - Reguilon - ------------
----------------------------------------------- Bruno ---- Mainoo --------------------------------------------------
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------------------------------------------------------- Hojlund ----------------------------------------------------------
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Is Rashford really going to be suitably roused because Ineos have bought a 25% share?
Yes. Obviously. They're playing the Villa.
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Is Rashford really going to be suitably roused because Ineos have bought a 25% share?
No. 26% would probably have swung it, though.
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Andy Cole had an almost 1 goal every 2 game record at Man United and throughout his career.
Andrew Cole went a number of games without scoring when he joined them then got his first goal v us in a 1-0 home win , scored down the Stretford End , i was in the away end fuming
See also Diego Forlan, fucker couldn't buy a goal until we obliged.
Yep i was there for that one too. Fortunately i missed the Macarada goal
I was there for that goal and I still hate his guts to this day
I haven’t moved on and probably need counselling
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Was that the one where there was an obvious foul and penalty against Barry and they went up the other end and scored?
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Is Rashford really going to be suitably roused because Ineos have bought a 25% share?
No. 26% would probably have swung it, though.
Maybe invested in his social media profile. Not his football career - he couldn't look less interested if he tried. Like quite a few of them. We can have these for sure.
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We are slight favourites with the bookies to win at OT.
When was the last time this happened?
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Why buy only 25%?
Lots of money but not much influence.
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I was contemplating buying a Grenadier next year when the finance on my Hilux is up. Forget it now, not giving a penny to those fur coat no knicker twats.
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A Man Utd fan that tried to buy Chelsea?
******
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A Man Utd fan that tried to buy Chelsea?
******
An egotistical ****** in search of a massage.
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A Man Utd fan that tried to buy Chelsea?
******
An egotistical ****** in search of a massage.
Fuck him
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So the Glazers get £600 million and a fund of £300 million will be used to improve TTOW.
It will take 6 weeks + for Why buy only 25%?
Lots of money but not much influence.
I doubt he could raise the full asking price £6 billion+
He will get control of Football operations although the Glazers will still be getting dividends and fees.
They pocket £600 million and £ 300 million will be invested in TTOW.
He may try to raise the funding to take them out at a later date.
It will take 6 weeks to ratify the deal.
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Forget Manure as they will be doing anything with VAR to give them a win and, hopefully, we can turn Burnley over. You just know that if any of the penalties we had turned down on Friday will be given to Manure without any hesitation.
That was my feeling. Two hands laid on Rashford will be a penalty and public flogging for the Villa players.
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No Tielemans out for another fortnight. Pau is touch and go which means go in our case. Dendonkey in to allow McGinn forward please. Cash is suspended. Even if his hurty shoulder is okay. So konsa at right back again and Carlos back?
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No Tielemans out for another fortnight. Pau is touch and go which means go in our case. Dendonkey in to allow McGinn forward please. Cash is suspended. Even if his hurty shoulder is okay. So konsa at right back again and Carlos back?
Is there any need for that?
Merry Xmas
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No Tielemans out for another fortnight. Pau is touch and go which means go in our case. Dendonkey in to allow McGinn forward please. Cash is suspended. Even if his hurty shoulder is okay. So konsa at right back again and Carlos back?
Full of Christmas cheer I see?
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No Tielemans out for another fortnight. Pau is touch and go which means go in our case. Dendonkey in to allow McGinn forward please. Cash is suspended. Even if his hurty shoulder is okay. So konsa at right back again and Carlos back?
Bah humbug and no coals for the fire
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We'll have to be ahead by at least two goals before our penalty area becomes a RADA audition venue in the last 5 minutes.
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Not going to get the chance to watch this until after the game has finished. We’ve done well when I’ve avoided the games, my head says 1-1 but my heart says 3-1 Utd. As with Archer scoring against us you can bet that Hojlund will inevitably break his duck.
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No.
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I wish we wasn’t playing these tomorrow. I hate Boxing Day fixtures as it is.
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my head says 1-1 but my heart says 3-1 Utd.
Haven't you got this arse to face?
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I did think this afterwards 😂….. does it change it though. Looking at it we should get a draw but being a Villa fan and hugely pessimistic I think we’ll lose. That’s all I meant.
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I have to say that I would much rather play them if they were not on a dismal run.
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I have to say that I would much rather play them if they were not on a dismal run.
I think we're playing them one game late in their run. This is the turn-it-around, dig-it-out phase of the streak. Game before is rock bottom; game after would be up for grabs. This is the worst possible timing.
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I have to say that I would much rather play them if they were not on a dismal run.
I think we're playing them one game late in their run. This is the turn-it-around, dig-it-out phase of the streak. Game before is rock bottom; game after would be up for grabs. This is the worst possible timing.
Yeah. I think you are right.
Still though, Unai is the man to buck a trend.
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They're shit. And they'll carry on being shit for a while. They've won 1 of the last 7 games in all comps and not scored in the last 4. Us last season are the only good side they've beaten for about 10 months. Next best are Chelsea/Brentford/Wolves. We turn up with the right attitude and performance and we win. We're better than them, it's up to us to show it.
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We turn up with the right attitude and performance and we win. We're better than them, it's up to us to show it.
This with bells on. Don't expect anything if we don't turn up. It's in our hands.
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How on earth is this not on sky?
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Scratch that just seen on Amazon D'oh
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This is the biggest game in football for me and one that I want to win the most. I’m thinking 2-0 to us and a fabulous performance.
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1-0
Rat boy with a cheat and a penalty
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Them 1 Us 2
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1-0
Rat boy with a cheat and a penalty
Unfortunately, this will probably be the case.
I'd like him to get injured in the warm up.
Decapitation should suffice
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I don't buy into thoughts of fatalism or anything like that. If we lose, it'll probably be because we just don't play that well away on the whole. They're mostly terrible though, so we should be putting in a good, strong performance and coming away 2-0 winners.
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No goals in the last 4 for them. Do wonder whether their players are playing to get the manager the boot.
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To try and salvage a shit season, Aston Villa have to be Man United's main target. We have put the 'cat among the pigeons' by challenging for a top four spot.
They probably reckon Man City, Arse and Liverpool are nailed on for a top four spot but we are the weak link and they desperately need to beat us.
All the pressure is on them. They will come out the blocks fast. We need to match them and then over the 90 minutes our extra quality should tell.
But allowing for their dodgy goal, I am going 1-1. Watkins.
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Not looking forward to this, it’s set up to be a fucking Manure win.
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Why?
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I know they haven't scored a lot but we've been a bit stingy with our goals lately too. I'd like a good old early season 3-0 lead at half time. Couple more in the 2nd half for good measure.
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McGuire is out for them it seems.
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I don't buy into thoughts of fatalism or anything like that. If we lose, it'll probably be because we just don't play that well away on the whole. They're mostly terrible though, so we should be putting in a good, strong performance and coming away 2-0 winners.
This 100%
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This is the problem with relative expectations. No they're not very good by Man Utd standards, but they're still 8th or what have you. Change the name above the door we'd all by saying 'ooh tricky one this' and shaking our heads and smoking moodily.
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All I ask is a win, a red card for rat face and Man U fans blubbing all the way back to the Home Counties.
Surely not too much to ask?
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I think I'd put the Donk in for this, play Moreno and play Ramsey on the left of the midfield with maybe Bailey with Watkins. It wouldn't shock me to see Zaniolney somehwere in the line up though.
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McGuire is out for them it seems.
Fuck our luck.
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Why?
Purely because I’m being illogical and superstitious. I hope to be entirely wrong and we smash them.
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I've always hated playing them. But now we have Unai Emery.
We are a good side, albeit missing a couple of our better players in Kamara, Tielemans and Torres.
The thing is, we have options now, and we will have some of Ramsey, Diaby, Zaniolo, Bailey, Duran on the bench who can come in and change things and cause the opposition problems. We will have a likely choice and change of Digne and Moreno to cause them more issues too.
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McGuire is out for them it seems.
Fuck our luck.
Didn't you just know it.
Dreadful news. It just adds to years of dodgy decisions and unjustified pens we have had to suffer up here. Why is it always us?
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Think Id go with this team today.
Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres or Lenglet (if Torres out)
Moreno
Luiz
Mcginn
Zaniolo
Watkins
Bailey
Ramsey
2-1 us (McGinn, Watkins)
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
Out of form? In our last 10 games in all competitions we've won 7 and drawn 3.
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
Out of form? In our last 10 games in all competitions we've won 7 and drawn 3.
😂 That's almost incredible form
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
Out of form? In our last 10 games in all competitions we've won 7 and drawn 3.
i meant immediate form , Brentford A and Sheff Utd H , not really been at it in either game
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We've been not quite at our best for a week, they've won once in a month and scored none in their last four. How fucking shit do you want them to be before we play them??
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
Out of form? In our last 10 games in all competitions we've won 7 and drawn 3.
i meant immediate form , Brentford A and Sheff Utd H , not really been at it in either game
We’ve lost one in fourteen, do you want to be specific in terms of immediate loss of form?? You mean one drawn game and a 2-1 win against a team that rarely loses at home?
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To be fair, the players have said things along the lines of if you win 3-0 and you scored two, Emery is all why didn't you get a hat-trick and it should have been four you slackers who did not listen to the instructions you need to be more demanding....
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Can't wait for this.
Come on!
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Has there been any injury availability update on Torres and Tielemans?
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Ah sorry reading back Tielemans out for 2 week? ::)
Well, Merry Christmas all!! Let's hope it's a good one (tonight)
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
You normally are.
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
Out of form? In our last 10 games in all competitions we've won 7 and drawn 3.
i meant immediate form , Brentford A and Sheff Utd H , not really been at it in either game
Our immediate form includes beating Arsenal, Man City, Brentford and drawing at home.
Trolls gotta troll I suppose.
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Ah sorry reading back Tielemans out for 2 week? ::)
Well, Merry Christmas all!! Let's hope it's a good one (tonight)
Torres was touch and go, so hopefully he’s go.
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
Out of form? In our last 10 games in all competitions we've won 7 and drawn 3.
i meant immediate form , Brentford A and Sheff Utd H , not really been at it in either game
And yet we won & drew despite the officials & VAR, along with your assumption that we have "not really been at it in either game".
And before that we dicked ManC & beat Arsenal without getting out of second gear...
In the last six games, we are 2nd in the form table. (Bizarrely behind Bournemouth).
In the last ten games, we are 1st in the form table.
A few dodgy moments in the past couple of games when we have struggled to break down a clamped bus, but inevitably ended up scoring three goals in those two games, does not mean we are "out of form".
It means that the smaller teams are actually respecting our form.
Having said that, I make no connection between our excellent long term AND immediate form & playing ManU at the Theatre of Prawns.
Considering whenever we play there, we have to play not only against the ManU first team, but a whole host of officials inside & outside the ground at the same time.
But to say we are out of form, short or long term, is utterly ludicrous...
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we appear to be out of form and key players missing so i am not confident about this one plus they are due a goal and a win . Hope i'm wrong
Out of form? In our last 10 games in all competitions we've won 7 and drawn 3.
i meant immediate form , Brentford A and Sheff Utd H , not really been at it in either game
We’ve lost one in fourteen, do you want to be specific in terms of immediate loss of form?? You mean one drawn game and a 2-1 win against a team that rarely loses at home?
We didn't play well in either game, until Mee gets the red I don't see us coming back in that game. Sheffield Utd was slow ponderous football we don't look the same without Torres or Kamara . I see a difficult game tonight.
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How many of the last two games have we lost Tim?
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How many of the last two games have we lost Tim?
Look at the performances. Play like that again tonight we will lose.
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Think Id go with this team today.
Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres or Lenglet (if Torres out)
Moreno
Luiz
Mcginn
Zaniolo
Watkins
Bailey
Ramsey
2-1 us (McGinn, Watkins)
We can't play McGinn in that position again. He had a shocker v Sheff United and it takes from our forward play when he isn't further up. Stick in the Donk, he will surely be able to handle the likes of McTominay. I think the Donk will start tonight and McGinn will be used to target Dalot/AWB instead on our left. A tactical switch I'd like to see a bit more often tonight is Bailey switching to the left at times. Should be more space tonight than in the last two games so I think Diaby will be given another go.
I think Emery will go with
--------Martinez
Konsa, Carlos, Torres, Moreno
-------Donk, Luiz
Bailey-----------McGinn
------Diaby, Watkins
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How many of the last two games have we lost Tim?
Look at the performances. Play like that again tonight we will lose.
You said form, not how we played.
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'Shocker' is a massive exaggeration, he made a mistake for their goal and was more limited going forwards. I'd also get him wide and more advanced again, but I do think the criticism has been over the top. He'd probably play better in there alongside Bouba rather than Doug.
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Friday showed you really can't play Bailey and Diaby in the same team.
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How many of the last two games have we lost Tim?
We lost to Sheff United for 10 mins and to Brentford for almost an hour, so quite a disastrous run I say. He is totally justified to be nit picking, sorry I meant concerned
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I dont have the best of feelings for this game. With the situation at Man U for the moment it s kind of set for them as an underdog to have the media and home support to show them self and give it all to beat us; the better team. If we can come out and show our best we beat them though. I hope for another game as we had with Arsenal; superb attack early on an 1-0 up and nervewrecking defensively rest 80 minutes (not good for my health).
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Friday showed you really can't play Bailey and Diaby in the same team.
Not really, it shows it makes it difficult if one of them is out of form.
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Friday showed you really can't play Bailey and Diaby in the same team.
Not really, it shows it makes it difficult if one of them is out of form.
Diaby is out of form . I wouldn't play them together anyway, doesn't work.
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He's either out of form or they both can't play together. Make your mind up which one?
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I wouldn’t bother asking, always on the wind up.
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I did think Diaby and Bailey were making similar runs and with them both starting, it meant we had less options from the bench. I'd probably start one or the other but not both. We might have been better off starting with both Watkins and Duran Friday.
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If we're in bad form/not playing well, have you watched Yanited recently?!
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Moreno
McGinn
Donk
Dougie
Ramsey
Diaby
Watkins
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I think Tim has a point. They're too similar to play on the same side - they too often cut back into the same space and neither goes for the byline.
One of them could play on the left, though.
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They have been shite for quite a while & still managed to finish top 4 last season. If we had everyone available I'd be very confident.
Like every game, if we give nothing away & the ref doesn't give them a gift we'll be OK. Score the first goal & the crowd will go into meltdown.
I'm going for 1-1 as we can't keep a clean sheet.
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Not won in 5 & not scored in last 4
3-1 Utd then .
Antony hasn’t scored this season and Rashford has two to his name. Two each then, 4-1.
Poundland Haarland hasn't scored one Prem goal yet either has he? Make it 5-1.
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Poundland Haarland hasn't scored one Prem goal yet either has he? Make it 5-1.
To be fair to the lad, if he was at Man City he'd probably be scoring as many as Haaland. He gets absolutely no service from the midfield, they're all selfish players who can't score themselves but keep trying to.
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Relax lads and lasses, we're going to batter them. I'm so confident, Smirker has asked me to rein it in a bit. 8)
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Moreno
McGinn
Donk
Dougie
Ramsey
Diaby
Watkins
Yes, I'd go with that, and have Bailey ready to come on for 30 or so minutes. Tim should get some gametime as well but probably won't unless we're well clear of them with 30 to go.
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Moreno
McGinn
Donk
Dougie
Ramsey
Diaby
Watkins
Yes, I'd go with that, and have Bailey ready to come on for 30 or so minutes. Tim should get some gametime as well but probably won't unless we're well clear of them with 30 to go.
Same here. Diaby to have a stormer tonight!
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If we're in bad form/not playing well, have you watched Yanited recently?!
they actually played quite well at Anfield last week in the 0-0
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If we're in bad form/not playing well, have you watched Yanited recently?!
they actually played quite well at Anfield last week in the 0-0
So they played well, but we’re off form. Genius!
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They defended decently overall and Liverpool couldn't finish their dinner that day. 34 shots to 6, 68/32 possession, 12/0 corners, tells you what you need to know.
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If we're in bad form/not playing well, have you watched Yanited recently?!
they actually played quite well at Anfield last week in the 0-0
So they played well, but we’re off form. Genius!
Suspect cooking Sherry has been taken.
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They defended decently overall and Liverpool couldn't finish their dinner that day. 34 shots to 6, 68/32 possession, 12/0 corners, tells you what you need to know.
yeah they were organised and determined. It was a park the bus job though.
They won't play that way tonight though.
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If we're in bad form/not playing well, have you watched Yanited recently?!
they actually played quite well at Anfield last week in the 0-0
So they played well, but we’re off form. Genius!
They've taken 4 points from the last 5 games, scoring 2 goals, we've taken 17 points from the last 7. We're definitely the side that's out of form!
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Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Moreno
McGinn
Donk
Dougie
Ramsey
Diaby
Watkins
Yes, I'd go with that, and have Bailey ready to come on for 30 or so minutes. Tim should get some gametime as well but probably won't unless we're well clear of them with 30 to go.
Same here. Diaby to have a stormer tonight!
I'll go with Ads team too. Everybody in their best positions, a show of strength, all knowing their job. A 14 point gap between us and the Plastics, 13 with the Saudis if we win tonight. Another vote for Tim to get some minutes, I can't wait to see what Unai can do for him, he was ripping it up at QPR until Beale left and then anarchy set in at Loftus Road. He's a massive talent and he should be pushing to get time every week so that Kamara and Dougie can have a bit of a rest.
Man U are there for the taking. Let's do it!
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McGinn must play further forward, so either Donk or Timmy comes in. I'd also play Digne over Moreno.
Bailey and Diaby do frequently play well together, I think it could work today because there will be more space in behind the Utd defence. That said, I'd start with Ramsey and bring Bailey on in the 2nd half.
If we score early we'll funeral the twats.
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I know it's unlikely but if Liverpool don't win this evening, we could be top of the table tonight?
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Just do them 10-0 and we'll probably go top. FTF.
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Ah sorry reading back Tielemans out for 2 week? ::)
Well, Merry Christmas all!! Let's hope it's a good one (tonight)
Torres was touch and go, so hopefully he’s go.
Thanks Paul. I fear Torres is key to us getting a win there - crossing all protruding bits and bobs :-)
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Just do them 10-0 and we'll probably go top. FTF.
Oh yeah, we're level with them, I forgot that. I know it's not "top of the league at Christmas" but "top of the league on "Boxing" day" has a nice ring to it.
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And the ref is Craig Pawson the bloke who got sent to the Championship after denying them a penalty.
So bound to be impartial then.
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Just do them 10-0 and we'll probably go top. FTF.
Oh yeah, we're level with them, I forgot that. I know it's not "top of the league at Christmas" but "top of the league on "Boxing" day" has a nice ring to it.
Would like to see it at some point this season. Game week 38 ideally, but after years in the gutter would be a sight for sore eyes no matter when it happened.
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Can't believe what a chance this is, again, this time to put daylight not just between us and them but between us and Newcastle. Obviously, as the last game showed, never get your hopes up with the Villa! A point would probably be good.
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Just do them 10-0 and we'll probably go top. FTF.
Oh yeah, we're level with them, I forgot that. I know it's not "top of the league at Christmas" but "top of the league on "Boxing" day" has a nice ring to it.
Would like to see it at some point this season. Game week 38 ideally, but after years in the gutter would be a sight for sore eyes no matter when it happened.
Friday night felt like a mild disappointment, or missed opportunity, to the point that it never even occurred to me that we'd possibly have the same opportunity a few days later! Takes some getting used to, this top end of the table malarkey.
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I thought Torres was out ?
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They’re pretty dreadful, we’re fucking ace.
I fully expect us to bollock their eyes out.
COYL!!
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He's either out of form or they both can't play together. Make your mind up which one?
Arguably both are true. 433 might be an option with them either side of Watkins
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I just can’t see us getting anything here. Sure - we’re better than them but I just don’t think it will happen. There desperate for a result and have everyone out of form - I just think that they come good tonight or have a fluky win
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Never been there feeling confident, apart from the second Everton replay
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Form seems to go out of the window when we play these at mold trafford. Throw our truly dreadful record on past boxing days and a team desperately out of form and anything we get will be a welcome bonus. I really hope I'm wrong.
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starting with Rashford and eriksen
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their goalscorer aint starting
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we smashed crystal palace on boxing day couple of years back. Match was shown live on terrestrial TV a first for a premier league game.
It's important Emery gets the set up right from the start so we're not hanging on till half time. Bailey OR Diarby for me, not both... unless we're chasing the game later on.
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I used to rate evra.
What an arrogant Man U ******.