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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on December 03, 2023, 01:00:17 PM
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Moussa on the bench, hopefully that’ll be motivation when he comes on.
Come on Villa, win please. Solid clean sheet and a couple of goals would be lovely.
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Relief that Ollie is starting.
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Do you remember the days when we used to moan about team selection? Now we just trust the manager….
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Did not expect to see Zaniolo and Bailey in the starting 11.
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Zaniolo nearly joined Bournemouth last January.
Feels a bit like one of those things where he now has a blinder and they're all bemoaning missing out on him.
Maybe.
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Kamara?
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Kamara?
suspended
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Not surprising that Carlos is in as they have 2 big buggers up front.
Zaniolo and Bailey either side of Watkins is interesting and SUE must see a weakness in Bournemouth.
No silly early goal conceded and think we should have enough.
UTV
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I think Ollie should have been rested today to fully recover and be ready for the next two games.
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Yet to see what Zaniolo offers.
Strong otherwise, including the bench.
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Cash on the bench?
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I think Ollie should have been rested today to fully recover and be ready for the next two games.
My Dad said the same yesterday, and it might the reasoning behind Diaby on the bench. Think I'd prefer to get this game won first, and take him off if we're comfortably ahead.
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Diaby finally dropped
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Diaby finally dropped
Yeah useless bastard, scoring 3 days ago.
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Diaby finally dropped
Or just rotated because that’s what we should be doing if we are to be successful long term.
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Blimey bit of surprise line up that
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A birthday weekend win for me and Risso please Villa.
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A birthday weekend win for me and Risso please Villa.
Birthday weekend for me too. The win on Thursday was good. This will make it a great weekend.
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Diaby finally dropped
Yeah useless bastard, scoring 3 days ago.
😂
Konsa is horrid at RB but I guess Cash can't play every game. Big game for Zaniolo I think for his future Villa career. I expect he will play off Watkins with Bailey on right and Tielemans left.
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A birthday weekend win for me and Risso please Villa.
Birthday weekend for me too. The win on Thursday was good. This will make it a great weekend.
Many happy returns VID. Hope we cap off the week nicely with another win.
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Diaby finally dropped
Yeah useless bastard, scoring 3 days ago.
😂
Konsa is horrid at RB but I guess Cash can't play every game. Big game for Zaniolo I think for his future Villa career. I expect he will play off Watkins with Bailey on right and Tielemans left.
442 with Zaniolo on the left.
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I’d say he’s rotating a bit with the volume of games. Should have easily enough to win the game though.
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A birthday weekend win for me and Risso please Villa.
Birthday weekend for me too. The win on Thursday was good. This will make it a great weekend.
Many happy returns VID. Hope we cap off the week nicely with another win.
Thanks. I always look for my Birthday game 1st when the fixtures come out. Had abit of a feeling of unease when I saw Bournemouth in the summer, but quietly confident of at least a point now.
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Diaby finally dropped
Yeah useless bastard, scoring 3 days ago.
😂
Konsa is horrid at RB but I guess Cash can't play every game. Big game for Zaniolo I think for his future Villa career. I expect he will play off Watkins with Bailey on right and Tielemans left.
442 with Zaniolo on the left.
Could be Tielemans off Ollie like in Alkmaar.
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Wild swimming?
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Cash on the bench?
Please stay in touch with me, in this contactless society.
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McGinn middle and Tielemans as 10.
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I like to see different players given a start. A manager that can work with the whole of his squad is a better manager.
Gone are the days of bomb squads and players training on their own just because the manager can’t be arsed. This guy has the ability to get the best out of everybody. True pro.
Hope and think we’ll win. But we’re improving all the time, trying different things and keep learning.
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Diaby finally dropped
Yeah useless bastard, scoring 3 days ago.
We need to stop feeding trolls. I can’t help myself sometimes too.
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Double post.
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Cash on the bench?
In a brown envelope ?
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McGinn middle and Tielemans as 10.
That is how I see it.
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Bit of an odd line up that, and I don't think it's going to be the one to give us that consistently good away performance. I'm still not entirely sure why he buggers about so much in away games. Diaby hasn't been at his best in recent league games, but he's still miles better than Zaniolo. Hope he proves me wrong.
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Bit of an odd line up that, and I don't think it's going to be the one to give us that consistently good away performance. I'm still not entirely sure why he buggers about so much in away games.
Very similar thoughts. Another game of two halves whereby we properly turn up in the second? Unai obviously thinks this line up will work otherwise he wouldn't keep setting us out this way. I'm expecting a very tough game.
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His team selection certainly keeps you on your toes. We were trying to guess who would come in for Kamara and he goes and makes multiple changes.
Maybe that's better than just trying to swap one player for another. We'll see soon enough.
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3 points and a Fulham win and Spurs nicking a point would be nice.
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No proper right back again. At least we know what we need to be prioritising in January.
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Can anyone cry me a river? Thanks
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You know how Zaniolo is going to score a worldy? Well that effort wasn't it.
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Interesting to see how our line up plays out
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Fuck me Zaniolo, what on earth was that?
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Diaby finally dropped
Yeah useless bastard, scoring 3 days ago.
We need to stop feeding trolls. I can’t help myself sometimes too.
Please din’t feed him, he is dreadful
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zaniolo another conversion
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Can anyone cry me a river? Thanks
yes please
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We're winning the ball back high up the pitch a lot.
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No pressure and cross from Bailey goes to other side where no player...
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Can anyone cry me a river? Thanks
yes please
And me please.
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Bournemouth score, defensive fuck up
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Ugh. Lee Hendrie.
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Luiz is a GOD!
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1-0
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Bollocks!
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Bollocks.
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Fucking shite. Mistakes all round, dreadful.
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Bailey and Zani together.
This could be interesting.
Zani needs to have a good game.
Shir they have scored.
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Diego wtf?
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Poor from Carlos
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Are we ever going to keep a clean sheet?
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Fucking hell, that was piss poor.
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How many more mistakes!!
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Damn.
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Carlos, useless. Why the fuck is he playing? All this fucking about with the away team, FFS.
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Oh dear Diego. We were getting on top and now we give them encouragement
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Zaniolo is shit.
Hope that does the trick.
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Conceding early again FFS
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early fucking goal again ffs
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Not sure Bailey and Zaniolo should both be starting away from home.
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Carlos that is abysmal
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Another unforced error. Only way they were scoring.
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Fuck off Carlos, careless idiot.
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We had started quite brightly too.
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Well Zaniolo is looking shite so far.
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Zaniolo...I'm really not sure.
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Our best defence is Cash Konsa Torres Digne. Why move away from that. Zaniolo has been absolutely fucking useless, why is he starting?
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Zaniolo is shit, always takes the wrong option.
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Two games in a row handing out goals, absymal from Carlos. We had started pretty well too.
Zaniolo's confidence very low. Not sure at all about Tielemans in middle and McGinn left.
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Well Zaniolo is looking shite so far.
He's never looked anything else for us, to date. Fuck him off to the bookies.
There - if that doesn't make him score a thundercnut of a goal, nothing will.
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Oh Carlos
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Zaniola not bringing it for me
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Zaniolo - not looking comfortable at all.
Needs too much time currently
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They’ve obviously been told to put themselves about against our centre backs
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Don't forget that Unai always knows how the game will play out. He can has planned for this.
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So casual from Carlos under no pressure. Can’t afford mistakes like that.
Zaniolo seems to be getting worse with every appearance.
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I just think Zaniolo is trying too hard, just needs to give it earlier and let the play do the work.
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becoming increasingly angry..
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Zani is starting to look like a dud.
No goals in his last 22 games.
Even Bailey has his purple periods.
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Konsa losing his man completely there. This defence doesn't work.
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don't fancy us here at all. Something is missing.
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Carlos, get him off. Rubbish.
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Fucking hell, Carlos needs to wake the fuck up and quick.
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I just think Zaniolo is trying too hard, just needs to give it earlier and let the play do the work.
He’s barely broken a sweat.
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Sigh, why do we insist on playing with a handicap in away games? It's hard enough winning from 0-0 away, let alone 0-1.
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then again, I said that after 20 mins against Spurs
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If it’s still this bad at HT then get Cash and JJ on for Carlos & Zaniolo
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Why are we so shit at nomark clubs like these?
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seems like another set up incorrectly and Emery rings the changes at half time.
Although the first 10 mins we were in total control.
now they tails are up. every time we get ball they're fouling to disrupt us. lucky the ref isn't shy in getting his yellows out
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Zani is starting to look like a dud.
No goals in his last 22 games.
Even Bailey has his purple periods.
To be fair he’s not hiding though
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Fucking hell, Carlos needs to wake the fuck up and quick.
I don’t understand why you just wouldn’t play Torres and Konsa.
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I just think Zaniolo is trying too hard, just needs to give it earlier and let the play do the work.
He’s barely broken a sweat.
I meant more the amount of touches he's taking, rather than his work rate. Feels like he's trying to force opportunities? Might be wrong.
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Zani is starting to look like a dud.
No goals in his last 22 games.
Even Bailey has his purple periods.
I firmly believe Zaniolo is Tonov returing to haunt us.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Great stuff Leon
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Bailey
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Brilliant, quick response. Get in, Leon!
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Baillllllllleyyyyyy what a player.
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Get in!!
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Woo! Bailey cuts inside on his left and scores!
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YES.
Leon is a different animal this year.
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Bailey!!!
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Get in Leon!
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Bailey has turned up away from home!!!!
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Bailey goal
https://twitter.com/skillsballs/status/1731317485234696247
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YESSSS!!!! Get in!
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Boom, not stopping that one.
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DIEGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Great goall
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Fucking hell, Carlos needs to wake the fuck up and quick.
I don’t understand why you just wouldn’t play Torres and Konsa.
Because the Press would then label Emery as an ordinary manager and stop praising him.
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wow he got venom in that shot. great finish Leon
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Cheating prick
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Should be a red card that.
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YES.
Leon is a different animal this year.
Absolutely.
I never thought it would happen.
Fair play to him.
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This is terrible Unai, what are you doing with this line up!
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Woooooo
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Carlos....1-2
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Yesssssssssss
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Get Carlos off now!
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Nice one Diego. Redemption
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Or not, VAR check
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2-1, Diego Carlos! But VAR ...
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The utterly brilliant Diego Carlos!!!!!!
(I am a twat)
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VAR :/
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Ref bottled the 2nd yellow there.
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Onside all day
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Carlos you ****** goooooooooooooo! !
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Get diaby on for zaniolo now and we can win this
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Refs a complete joke. Definite red.
YEESSSSSS!!!!!!
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The ref is a ******, bottled that red for their player.
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Why var that? It's so obviously on
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Bloody Carlos scored
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Oh my word, 2 in 2 mins!!
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After nearly an hour the goal is disallowed
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This won't count
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Cnuts
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Boooooo!
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Fuck off
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Digne given offside
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(I am a twat)
I think we are all, really.
There are more twats on here than in the Razzle Bumper Christmas Annual.
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VAR is bollocks sometimes.
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Fuck off!
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fuck these officials.
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Why is this taking so long, it is clearly offside.
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Wankers
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Wtf did I miss
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This is utter Blues for people in the ground.
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Anyone got a decent river?
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They should be down to ten,mind
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Semenyo needs to be kicked up and down the pitch now
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What a joke. Why does it take so fucking long.
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Comes to something when both sets of fans were singing "VAR is fucking shit"
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These days you get up and go make a cup of tea when VAR is called for.
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We're defending really badly today.
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This ref isn't up to the job.
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Our marking at right back is shocking
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The whole lot is just not up to standard. The refs and the VAR is a total shit show.
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Pau booked
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We're basically playing without a right back. Konsa is very narrow and backing off into a CB position, and there's a big gap between him and Bailey.
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Even the BBC are saying how weak we are at the back on the right
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The ref is really shit and a homer
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We're basically playing without a right back. Konsa is very narrow and backing off into a CB position, and there's a big gap between him and Bailey.
All so pointless, just stick Cash at right back.
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Konsa is horrid at RB, keeps tucking in far too much. Cash probably come on at half time.
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It’s the time taken and inconsistency of decision making that is absolutely killing the game.
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Great save Emi
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I really don't get why he's playing Konsa there, he's never really looked comfortable there.
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He clearly doesn’t rate Cash.
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This referee is unacceptably bad. Where do they find these clowns?
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Konsa isn't being helped by the absence of Kamara, mind.
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Kinell, Bournemouth should be 2-1 up
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Miserable defending this, absolute dogshite.
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Has to make change before half time
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I think Konsa is right back because Kamara is out, we want to build as a back 3 and he usually drops in there when we are in possession. Trouble is we aren’t keeping the ball and they are murdering us down that side.
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Can I never see this lineup again, please?
Carlos is a donkey and Konsa not a right back.
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Very very lucky not to be losing there
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That ****** that should've been sent off is looking dangerous
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Getting tonked down our right
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Sort it out Unai!
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I can't believe they haven't scored there.
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Wide open at the back we are
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We are all over the shop at the back. If he wants to rotate Cash and I absolutely get that, then get in a RB pronto in the window. First priority. Because Konsa isn’t it
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Bring Cash on, fucking hell.
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"Zaniolo, not the best."
Even the commentator can see it.
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He HAS to change this at HT
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How we not losing ...twice close by Bournemouth
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Special mention to Zaniolo who is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a Villa shirt.
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Emery needs to change this.
Like right now.
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Special mention to Zaniolo who is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a Villa shirt.
Almost completey useless as far as I can see.
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What are the odds on Zaniolo to be hooked at half time...again!
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How is that not a foul
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Why have we gone to shit since our disallowed goal?
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Carlos, Zaniolo off, Diaby and Cash on please.
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Carlos, Zaniolo off, Diaby and Cash on please.
Completely agree.
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Looks like ref giving them everything
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Carlos, Zaniolo off, Diaby and Cash on please.
Completely agree.
Yep. I reckon he will, too.
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Special mention to Zaniolo who is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a Villa shirt.
doesn't impress me either
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Get Ramsey on FFS
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We are unlucky not to be a man up. We are very lucky not to be a couple of goals down. We will make changes and win this though I reckon.
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Special mention to Zaniolo who is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a Villa shirt.
doesn't impress me either
I've been in the give him time camp, and Unai obviously sees something in him, but I have no idea what that may be, thus far.
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The defence has gone to ratshit.
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It's all coming down the left from Bournmouth. Samiado is causing all sorts of strife, and he should of had two yellows !
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This is dreadful, we've very lucky not to be losing. Defence is all over the bloody shop.
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This referee is an idiot.
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Konsa at right back does not fucking work, there's a reason it is all coming down that side.
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Zani. Fucking gobshite.
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This referee is an idiot.
Incomprehensible. His decisions make no sense. Zaniolo just got plowed thru from behind, no call?!
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Surely Bournemouth will tire second half?
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FFS, get Zaniolo off, utterly fucking abysmal.
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JJ for Zaniolo at some point I would think.
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As much as I would like to see him given a full game that booking means he will get hooked at half time
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8 mins added time
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No hesitation in booking for that but not the shirt pull on Bailiey earlier. Ref. is having a shocker.
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Major half time changes incoming. Zaniolo has had a mare.
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The midfield hasn’t be involved enough too.
This set up is wrong.
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FFS, get Zaniolo off, utterly fucking abysmal.
He will be gone at half time as will Carlos I think. Tielemans can have no complaints if he's hooked too.
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Seven fouls I've counted that they've got away with.
Also Zaniolo's been poor, and I know he's certain people's Effigy of the Month, but Watkins, McGinn and Tielemans have been just as bad.
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Zaniolo off at HT please, contributes absolutely nothing.
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FFS, get Zaniolo off, utterly fucking abysmal.
He will be gone at half time as will Carlos I think. Tielemans can have no complaints if he's hooked too.
Tielemans has done pretty well, I thought.
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Seven fouls I've counted that they've got away with.
Also Zaniolo's been poor, and I know he's certain people's Effigy of the Month, but Watkins, McGinn and Tielemans have been just as bad.
They have at least got the defence that they've contributed this season. Zaniolo has done absolutely knack all, and doesn't ever look like he's going to. Utter waste of a shirt.
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Sweet baby Jesus, this is absolute dog shit.
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I’ve been at a Christmas Market with my family, sounds like I’ve missed a terrible first half reading through this.
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Great tackle Konsa
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ZanioLOL
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King Konsa
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Fuck me Zaniolo, on yer bike son.
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Zani again. Useless.
Konsa tackle!!
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Good save Neto
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Ezri, genius.
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Save
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Ezri Konsa with a McGrathesque tackle
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Zaniolo playing with his shoelaces tied together it seems.
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Pen?
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Konsa shows why he should play central
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Oh Dougie..
That follow up foul has to be a yellow..?!
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This thread is in the past,present and future
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What the fuck happened to the Zaniolo of Roma and Galatasary?
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What a fucking tackle from Konza.
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Konsa channelling Paul McGrath.
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What the fuck happened to the Zaniolo of Roma and Galatasary?
Confidence is a crazy thing.
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That was a sitter from Doug.
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Take the ref off at HT Absolute joke this bloke.
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What's going on pen?
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Should have scored before
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Straight in the kisser
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What's going on pen?
For who? Some of us aren't illegally streaming!
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HT will be a welcome relief at this point. Reset and come back out and win this. Other results so far going our way so need to get back at this properly in the second half.
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I wonder if they'll leave Semenyo on for the second half. I'd be very worried about him if I were a Bournemouth fan.
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What's going on pen?
For who? Some of us aren't illegally streaming!
Commentator suggested the foul was inside the box. It wasn’t
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We have been too slow.
Getting bullied and bossed.
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They're a dirty lot
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Shit free kick
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HT. Well you can't say it was a boring first half.
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That’s some defending from Konsa. Outstanding, what a player he is.
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This ref is bottling a second yellow for any Bournemouth player.
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That was mostly extremely poor, and I'm afraid to say, largely due to the wrong set up yet again.
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This ref is bottling a second yellow for any Bournemouth player.
Deffo
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Zaniolo a passenger. The lad in blue their best player by a mile. 24 should have walked. They're so fucking snide off the ball.
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We've seen the Villa, now let's fuck off home.
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FFS, get Zaniolo off, utterly fucking abysmal.
He will be gone at half time as will Carlos I think. Tielemans can have no complaints if he's hooked too.
Tielemans has done pretty well, I thought.
Keeps getting caught in possession and not tracking runners in midfield.
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Zaniolo a passenger. The lad in blue their best player by a mile. 24 should have walked. They're so fucking snide off the ball.
That’s a good word for it. They are fouling consistently and just putting us off our game. It’s the type of shit Pep gets Man City to do just with better players. We need to rise above it and use our quality to win this. Zaniolo and Diego off for me to get back a more settled back four with Diaby or JJ on for Zaniolo.
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This referee is utter horseshit.
It’s about time we got referees in from abroad. Go and get the best ones. Fuck it. Fuck these shit bags
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A shambles in defence purely down to playing your finest CB out of position in favour of a poorer player and leaving a recognised RB on the bench. That has to change.
I'm losing patience with Olney like everyone else.
As for the ref, utterly incompetent and once again the officiating is drenched in embarrassment and inability to take decisive action.
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They’re up to 13 fouls, mostly cynical nonsense fouls in our defensive third.. all that while the ref has missed 8+ and choked away a sending off. It’s every match, every week - this crop of referees is crap full stop and I’m sick of talking about it.
That said, we’re going to fucking mash them second half. That was their absolute best and it’s 1-1.
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Take off Zaniolo, he is on a card and contributed zero
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Get JJ on.
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Zaniolo a passenger.
He can have no complaints if subbed, he's been given plenty of opportunities and until now hasn't hit the levels required. JJ on would be my choice.
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Cash & Ramsey on for Carlos & Zaniolo please.
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Need to get Zaniolo off as we’re playing with 10 just now. Also, how is Semeydo still on the pitch??
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That defending from Carlos for their goal was so bad it was surreal. Ignore the pass...he just ran after it like Lassie leaving all the space for their forward. If he had stayed where he was we would have been ok
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Can we cut short Zaniolos loan? He isn't good enough. He must be subbed
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We haven’t been able to use the space that’s there - Carlos has been too casual.
Zanilio looks absolutely bereft of confidence and ability.
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We haven't caught them off once. Says it all.
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JJ on for Zaniolo and we win this.
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That was a sitter from Doug.
Stunned he missed it. Bailey has been excellent
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Diaby coming on.
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Have to replace Zaniolo at half time. He’s worse than a waste of a shirt.
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JJ on for Zaniolo and we win this.
I thought you weren't watching it?!
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I’ve been at a Christmas Market with my family, sounds like I’ve missed a terrible first half reading through this.
We have played some nice stuff at times going forward. Without the ball we are a mess
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Shite. Said at the start that the lineup showed we need to strengthen at right back, and that half just underlined it in fluorescent marker pen.
And Zaniolo has been a waste of a shirt so far.
Thirty years ago I'd have been over the moon to have a full Italian international in claret and blue. Now I can't wait to see him replaced by a young English player who's still not been capped at senior level.
Funny how things change.
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Might be worth swapping McGinn and Tielemans over.
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Looks like it anyway. They're doing the group warm up, but Diaby has whipped the tracksuit off and has been spoken to a fair bit.
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well Guardiola wanted Diego Carlos once but wouldnt paid the 80 million , on that goal he looked like a £8 player , defence has been poor
dougie has to be scoring that ,Baileys was a great goal
zaniolo must have his boots on the wrong feet .
Ref has gave us nothing , proper useless and lucky to be in it just .
Now make them changes and lets go finish them off
waiting around for VAR on cold days like this when no need , is just going to get players more injuries
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We didn't play well but we scored a beauty, had one chalked off and Doug should have scored. Tighten up at the back and we can win this by a couple.
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Cannoli and canneloni would be more effective than Zaniolo.
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Zaniolo a passenger. The lad in blue their best player by a mile. 24 should have walked. They're so fucking snide off the ball.
Semenyo should have gone and Kluivert too is a red waiting to happen
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Might be worth swapping McGinn and Tielemans over.
Definitely, Tielemans is far too loose in the middle.
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Emery got the set up wrong again and the 2nd week running just like spurs away we limp to half time before any changes.
Does any one apart from Mourhinio make changes in the first half? I would have shipped Zaniolo for CAsh and moved BAiley up with Watkins.
If its not right against man city from the kick off it will be game over at half time.
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I’ve been at a Christmas Market with my family, sounds like I’ve missed a terrible first half reading through this.
It's been painful viewing in all honesty but probably less painful than a christmas market
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What the fuck happened to the Zaniolo of Roma and Galatasary?
Betting the low spread against his own team for fun maybe?
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Playing Konsa at right back just seems to create more problems for us than it solves. Difficult half with Zaniolo an absolute liability turning the ball over again and again. Ref bottled the sending off. Just wish we could really turn up against this lot..
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I’ve been at a Christmas Market with my family, sounds like I’ve missed a terrible first half reading through this.
We have played some nice stuff at times going forward. Without the ball we are a mess
Thanks for the update.
I saw that tackle from Konsa. That was absolutely outstanding. He’s really grown into a really top class defender this season. Wow!
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well Im sure the master genius will sort it out
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Cash & Ramsey on for Carlos & Zaniolo please.
Not if that Bournemouth goalscorer stays on. He’d eat Cash for breakfast! Konsa is having a torrid time against him as it is.
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JJ on for Zaniolo and we win this.
I thought you weren't watching it?!
I'm not...well, I am vicariously. And I think JJ is a world-beater.
By the way, did you see JC cracked a couple of ribs falling down a stairs in Hong Kong but carried on to do a gig yesterday?!
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Too sloppy, we just kept giving them the ball back in the last fifteen minutes. We were getting on top before Carlos's brain fart, agree that the response to the pass was almost as bad as the pass itself. He chased it like a puppy, not what you want from an experienced defender.
The VAR decision seemed to knock the stuffing out of us too. I would expect Zaniolo to be taken off at half time. I feel for him, he is struggling and I am sure the betting controversy has had an impact on him. His performances before that story broke were better than they have been since.
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Streams have been as Blues as the ref and Zaniolo
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Cash & Ramsey on for Carlos & Zaniolo please.
Not if that Bournemouth goalscorer stays on. He’d eat Cash for breakfast! Konsa is having a torrid time against him as it is.
Carlos is worrying me. I don’t know what’s worse
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It's like Carlos Cuellar never left.
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Ramsey coming on
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JJ coming on.
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JJ ON
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Ramsey for Zaniolo, rite call.
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JJ coming on
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Zanigolo
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Nice. Who’s off?
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JJ for Zaniolo makes me feel better. But it’s at the back we’ve looked poor. Still not balanced with three CBs
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If we keep the same back four we'll lose.
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The problems have not been addressed at the back. Another painful half on the way.
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Safe to say we won't be signing Zaniolo. I really thought he could be a cool as fuck maverick for us, shame.
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Safe to say we won't be signing Zaniolo. I really thought he could be a cool as fuck maverick for us, shame.
Yeh shame but JJ is like a rolls Royce in comparison
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2-1 Bournemouth
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FFS
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If we score next, we win. If they do, draw at best.
Oh..
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That is so fucking soft. Pathetic
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Fuck right off.
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If we score next, we win. If they do, draw at best.
Cool
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Yet again, it comes down our right. Fuck off.
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I see the substitution solved all our problems.
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I really hate these.
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Fucking hell this is absolute dog shit.
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Fucking hell, it's fucking Bournemouth. Come on Villa, win this now please
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Fuck sake Villa.
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Though Paus legs bollocks
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What a mess
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I see the substitution solved all our problems.
Maybe ZanIolney at the back is the answer!
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Torres again too slow.
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Far too easy.
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We are always shit at Bournemouth. Not the first time Torres has been done on the turn in the box and shite playing out from the back again before that.
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Torres again too slow.
Too slow.. the ball went thru his legs.
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Looks like Carlos turned easy
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Every time we go to these lower league clubs we are our own worst enemies
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Shite. Down our right side again.
Think another RB is a priority next month.
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I fucking despair.
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Pau I think
But crap kick out
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That’s shit
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Bring Cash on, FFS.
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Every time we go to these lower league clubs we are our own worst enemies
And every time we get nothing from the ref, end up getting bullied by bruiser types and retreat into our shells.
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I've sat down. Inevitable, as night follows day.
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Emery needs to earn his money in the next 35 mins.
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Feels like Bournemouth are very comfortable with what we're trying to do.
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Time for a scotch.
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Take Carlos off, Cash on. Digne off, Moreno on. Bailey off, Diaby on. Please.
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Every time we go to these lower league clubs we are our own worst enemies
You sound like an Arsenal fan
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We just look poor to be honest , another forest performance , if doug had scored be so much different. Let's hope it approves quick
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No zip about us whatsoever
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Every time we go to these lower league clubs we are our own worst enemies
You sound like an Arsenal fan
And very strangely ironic, given the sentiment.
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We haven't put together one consistently decent away performance this season. We've had some good results, but we've played badly in large parts of all of them.
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What is the point of a brilliant home record when we go away to d#g s#it sides like this and constantly underperform.
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Off the line ?
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I fucking hate these banana skin games...
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Fuck me, this is woeful.
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What is the point of a brilliant home record when we go away to Blues sides like this and constantly underperform.
Look at the table and come back to me with the answer.
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World class Emi
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Shambles from Digne and Tielemans
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I’m turning it off and going the pub.
I hope I miss our magical comeback.
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He always changes the way we play in away games, and the players never look comfortable with it.
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FFS Unai, make a fucking change.
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At least we now know why Emery is reluctant to acknowledge that we are genuine top 6 contenders.
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Duran
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Interesting what is he up to?
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Odd substitution.
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Constantly sloppy in posession
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Emi saves us
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Take Carlos off, Cash on. Digne off, Moreno on. Bailey off, Diaby on. Please.
Yep. This would be the right thing to do.
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Thursday/Sundays catching up with us when we play away on the Sunday?
That's not the sub I would've made.
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Worst defensive display under Emery I can recall. The thing is it appears simple to remedy.
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Didn't expect that sub.
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The last thing we need is to lose today with who we are playing in the next two games coming up.
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Getting absolutely bossed and pushed off the park.
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Who's gone off?
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What is the point of a brilliant home record when we go away to Blues sides like this and constantly underperform.
Look at the table and come back to me with the answer.
I have done. Brilliant to be fourth but where would we be without games like this and Forest away.
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McGinn
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We’ve been too open in games of late. We aren’t getting anything out of this.
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Who's gone off?
McGinn
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Need a replacement for Kamara.
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Bournemouth are doing a good job on us just like they did against Newcastle a couple of games ago.
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We have been awful all over the pitch.
20 mins left and we have created fuck all in the second half
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Don’t mind losing when you play your best 11.
But this has been self inflicted.
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Off the post!
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It will be such poor form to lose to Forest and Bournemouth if we are serious about a top 4 challenge. One thing losing to the likes of Man City or Arsenal but we need to pick up points where we should be. This isn’t good enough today.
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That was close
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Duran is a handful.
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Moreno, Cash and Diaby coming on
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Moreno, Cash and Diaby coming on
About damn time.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
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Hit the post.
How he started Zani over Duran is a mystery.
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Digne, Konsa and Bailey off
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Don’t mind losing when you play your best 11.
But this has been self inflicted.
We have too many games to play the best/same 11 every game
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One of those days. Carlos offside goal, Doug sitter, Duran hitting the post, stupidly soft goals given aaay.
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The only time this game where we've managed to pass it around, we hit the post.
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Fuck me! Post!
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One of those days. Carlos offside goal, Doug sitter, Duran hitting the post, stupidly soft goals given aaay.
Bournemouth have been good value I think
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Ref is a ******
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Three subs. Clever or desperate.
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20 or so minutes to get something out of this. Still plenty of time
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Days like today are frustrating but the fact we even talk about top 4 after where we were a little over a year ago is a minor miracle. Reality is we are far from the finished article but bloody hell we're getting closer to it.
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Three subs. Clever or desperate.
Needed but probably should have happened sooner
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It will be such poor form to lose to Forest and Bournemouth if we are serious about a top 4 challenge. One thing losing to the likes of Man City or Arsenal but we need to pick up points where we should be. This isn’t good enough today.
Absolutely, Birthday Boy!
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It will be such poor form to lose to Forest and Bournemouth if we are serious about a top 4 challenge. One thing losing to the likes of Man City or Arsenal but we need to pick up points where we should be. This isn’t good enough today.
Absolutely, Birthday Boy!
Haha cheers Mark. Just need this lot to get a goal or two to start the day off right.
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Feels so disjointed, like the players don't really know where they should be. We're a good side when we're playing our first eleven, but as soon as he starts tinkering we look much less convincing.
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Don’t mind losing when you play your best 11.
But this has been self inflicted.
We have too many games to play the best/same 11 every game
We should've signed a RB, or kept Young as a competent back up. It fucks up the whole shape putting arguably our best CB at RB in a 4.
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I don't think I've seen Watkins mentioned at all in this thread since before kickoff. Is he still on?
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
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The right hand side has been a problem two weeks' running. Absolutely wide open today, Bournemouth should really be out of sight so grateful we are still in with a puncher's chance.
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Fucking he’ll. so sloppy again
Should have been 3
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One of those days. Carlos offside goal, Doug sitter, Duran hitting the post, stupidly soft goals given aaay.
Bournemouth have been good value I think
What game are you watching then? Without this coward of a referee, they would be down to 10 or even 9.
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6 on target to our 2.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
Yep that Emery chap knows nothing
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I don't think I've seen Watkins mentioned at all in this thread since before kickoff. Is he still on?
We've not created a single thing for him that I can recall. But yeah, probably had about 6 touches all game.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
But we can’t keep playing the same players. These boys are not made of the same stuff as the 14 from 81.
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I'm not a fan of Diego Carlos. He does everything too slow and constantly takes too many touches, makes it hard for our midfielders to lose their marker.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
Yes to a point. But part of the journey is that the manager has to use the squad and try things that might work or learn from things that don’t. The season isn’t defined by today. Certainly doesn’t help to not win these games. But it’s a work in progress and given where we were 12 months ago, we are way ahead of schedule. We clearly need some better options for away games and that will come in time through the next couple of windows as we get stronger and deeper as a club.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
Yep that Emery chap knows nothing
Obviously, he does, but he has gotten it Al wrong today and was lucky last week.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
Yep that Emery chap knows nothing
He's not infallible.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
Bloody hell!! Yeah Emery what an idiot, how dare we get beat!!! Get a grip
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Unai is actually a victim of his own success on days like this. As TV says we're ahead of schedule and way ahead of where any of us realistically expected us to be when he was appointed, so it means some now expect to win nearly every game.
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We are not top 4 material yet. 5th-7th possible, but we need to be showing up at grounds like these.
It’s all self inflicted though. Daft team selections and formations.
Yep that Emery chap knows nothing
He's not infallible.
No of course he’s not, but he is the best manager we have had in decades.
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Liverpool losing 3-2 home to Fulham. It will be shit if we lose given the opportunity to gain points on them but also show this league isn’t going to go as expected for anyone outside of Man City and Arsenal until later in the season when they bottle it.
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Especially frustrating though as Fulham lead 3-2 at Anfield. Same time it shows no one is a gimme in the league. Well apart from maybe Sheff Utd.
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Really really really really poor today .
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Duran just picking up their player like he's made of fluff lol
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I don't expect to win every game but expect better performances than this against bottom 6 teams like Forest and Bournemouth.
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Got my hopes up when I saw last post by PWS
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Fucking hell Duran get a grip
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I'd bloody love a scorchio about now.
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12 months ago we were worried about being in the bottom 4, now we are upset at not being in the top 4! Perhaps I’m a happy clapper. It happens
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Truly woeful.
2nd best all over the park.
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Really rubbish service to the strikers
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Unai is actually a victim of his own success on days like this. As TV says we're ahead of schedule and way ahead of where any of us realistically expected us to be when he was appointed, so it means some now expect to win nearly every game.
Completely agree but we should still be able to take maximum points off the likes of this lot and Forest. It's no good just turning up for the big games. Plus, we've tried this formation at the back in away games previously with the same poor outcome.
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Seen nothing from Moreno, Cash, or Ramsay so far, very little from Diaby, Watkins. Just a shite day all round so far.
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12 months ago we were worried about being in the bottom 4, now we are upset at not being in the top 4! Perhaps I’m a happy clapper. It happens
It’s absolutely fine to be upset about today but also realistic about how far we’ve come when we take a deep breath and reflect on the past year. And we are playing a confident in form side at their ground. Not excusing the defeat if it happens but it’s not like they’ve been shit of late.
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Truly woeful.
2nd best all over the park.
We were the better side when they got their second, and then we just seemed to deflate.
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I'd bloody love a scorchio about now.
I would prefer a goal.
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Thu/Sun/Thu/Sun catching up with us?
Lack of real depth in the squad (injuries notwithstanding)?
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SCOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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GET IN
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OLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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SCOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I fucking hope so
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SCOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fucking hell wow!
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This ref is just as poor as us
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They've won all the second balls, we've lost the battles
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YESSSSSSSSSSSS
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the conceding early away is becoming an un welcome habit
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No trust in the SCORCHIOOOOOOOOOOO anymore
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Var?
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Seen nothing from Moreno, Cash, or Ramsay so far, very little from Diaby, Watkins. Just a shite day all round so far.
That's it. Too many not doing anything.
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What a goal, assuming it stands
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Fuckin scorchio baby!
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Brilliant brilliant header
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Too many off it and our use of squad rotation isn't there yet. Ramsey has lacked sharpness as you would expect and we have had to take the overworked Konsa and McGinn off when chasing the game. Our fixture schedule is tough, we have played twice since they last played. It is horribly frustrating but it does happen.
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OLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Im in brum airport waiting for a flight to Belgium for work and just keep opening this when you post in case….
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Thank fook for that.
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What a fucking header
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Unai is actually a victim of his own success on days like this. As TV says we're ahead of schedule and way ahead of where any of us realistically expected us to be when he was appointed, so it means some now expect to win nearly every game.
I don't expect us to win every game but I do expect us to compete. Unai's team selections away from home and in Europe are where we look most uncomfortable. He normally has to fix it at half time. Sadly, today it looks like we've left it too late.
EDIT: This aged well. ;)
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Liverpool level again. Really need a result here.
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Ollie only needs 1 chance, what a striker.
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That's a world class header
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Brilliant header from Watkins!
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Ollie is a gold asset and I believe he's getting better
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Don’t you just love Ollie.
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wow watkins had to use the old neck muscles there!
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Great balls from Torres and Diaby too.
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Liverpool 4-3 up, useless Fulham gimps
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Fucking Liverpool come back to lead vs Fulham
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Liverpool winning.
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Brilliant header from Watkins, superb goal.
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Fucking Liverpool come back to lead vs Fulham
That’s what winners do, I hate to say it.
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We don't deserve it but still time to win this.
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GO AND FUCKING WIN IT!
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I don't think I've seen Watkins mentioned at all in this thread since before kickoff. Is he still on?
We've not created a single thing for him that I can recall. But yeah, probably had about 6 touches all game.
We did it, Joe!
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I don't think I've seen Watkins mentioned at all in this thread since before kickoff. Is he still on?
We've not created a single thing for him that I can recall. But yeah, probably had about 6 touches all game.
We did it, Joe!
Haha, lets try it again: "That bloody Diaby..."
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Full time
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Fucking Liverpool come back to lead vs Fulham
That’s what winners do, I hate to say it.
Liverpool’s team were losing late at home vs Fulham. Their squad has been built over many years. A side that won the title a couple of seasons ago. Are you seriously even comparing us to them?
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Utter turd and still didn’t lose
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Referees this season don't seem to want to let us compete physically. Every time an opponent goes down they get a free kick. Yet they're allowed to rough us up.
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Referees this season don't seem to want to let us compete physically. Every time an opponent goes down they get a free kick. Yet they're allowed to rough us up.
This, time and time again.