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Title: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on December 01, 2023, 09:34:49 AM
Vitality Stadium, Premier League. 3rd December 2023 2:00 PM

Probably time that we had one of these.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on December 01, 2023, 09:44:21 AM
A ticket, a ticket, my kingdom for a ticket...

0-2

Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on December 01, 2023, 09:49:28 AM

                   martinez
  cash     konsa   pau    moreno
 
              dougie   youri
    SJM                          JJ
             Diaby   Watkins

Lets absolutely smash them
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: bilsim on December 01, 2023, 09:55:03 AM
The biggest banana skin in the history of banana skins. Just win Villa.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on December 01, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
Come on you bastards.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 09:58:28 AM
Tinpot club, tinpot stadium. Lets send them back where they belong
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on December 01, 2023, 10:02:10 AM
Tinpot club, tinpot stadium. Lets send them back where they belong

Thoughtful as ever.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 10:23:03 AM
Tinpot club, tinpot stadium. Lets send them back where they belong

Thoughtful as ever.
they are though  :D .
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Baldy on December 01, 2023, 11:00:16 AM
Is it just me, but this game has a feel of the Notts Forest about it!!

Bournemouth on a bit of a roll at the moment, confident and will be no walkover. We need to come out the blocks fast, impose ourselves and piss on their parade.

1-2 to the Villa.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV82EC on December 01, 2023, 11:03:30 AM
Yep think the Manager appointment is starting to take effect as they battered Sheff U apparently.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on December 01, 2023, 11:10:15 AM
1-3 win for us, they have played better recently and are a very physical side but I think we have the quality to see us through this one.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Aldridge Villa on December 01, 2023, 11:18:52 AM
Unaccustomed as we are to such an approach away from home, playing with purpose and on the front foot in the first 20 minutes wouldn’t go amiss. Do this and we win.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 01, 2023, 11:40:18 AM
Tinpot club, tinpot stadium. Lets send them back where they belong

Thoughtful as ever.
they are though  :D .

They are where they belong based on sporting merit. Just like Luton.

The day clubs we don't want these clubs playing in the Premier League because the grounds are small is the day we can all fuck off to Abu Dhabi FC or Jaudi Arabia and just let wallet size decide matters.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Nev on December 01, 2023, 11:50:40 AM
With the loss of Kamara tempered by the return of JJ, we are pretty much at full strength. The managers know each other and it reminds me of the games against the old Wolfs Manager in that it's far from straightforward and could even be a struggle. As ever, I keep underestimating Emery and I'm going to do it again here with confidence that he'll make me look the plum that I am.

1-1
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on December 01, 2023, 11:55:12 AM
He an interesting chap their manager, could be a junior Emery in the making. They didn't have the best start but I can absolutely see why they chopped an inexperienced, meat and potatoes manager like O'Neill for him.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 01, 2023, 12:01:02 PM

                   martinez
  cash     konsa   pau    moreno
 
              dougie   youri
    SJM                          JJ
             Diaby   Watkins

Lets absolutely smash them

I think Emery will hold Ramsey and Moreno in reserve. Maybe McGinn dropping centrally next to Luiz, Bailey on right and Tielemans on left. Don't think he trusts Tielemans as one of the 2 x 6s, definitely not Mcginns best position either but he did ok there a few times last season like away at West Ham.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 12:06:04 PM
Tinpot club, tinpot stadium. Lets send them back where they belong

Thoughtful as ever.
they are though  :D .

They are where they belong based on sporting merit. Just like Luton.

The day clubs we don't want these clubs playing in the Premier League because the grounds are small is the day we can all fuck off to Abu Dhabi FC or Jaudi Arabia and just let wallet size decide matters.
tinpot owners who don't invest in the tinpot ground and deliver an away end of min 2500. Not for me Jeff they can fuck off back down the hole they came from and the owners who trouser the money (see Blackpool) can do one too
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on December 01, 2023, 12:14:11 PM
Think this will be a draw.

1-1
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 01, 2023, 12:30:36 PM
This’ll be tricky - their form has improved, it’s a piddley little ground. It’d be nice to keep a clean sheet and go from there.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 01, 2023, 12:42:57 PM
I can see us winning 3-1.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on December 01, 2023, 12:48:53 PM
Rare draw

1.1
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on December 01, 2023, 12:52:24 PM
Sunday away day, small ground, team struggling in the nether regions of the table but form on the up.

We will FTF into the French Channel while imposing our style and game plan, connecting with the fans and doing, seriously, in what we do.

1-3
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 12:54:46 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on December 01, 2023, 12:57:24 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 01, 2023, 12:59:23 PM
I bet we bloody lose this.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 01, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
Easy win.

0-4.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 01:20:25 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
yeah but tight little ground , not the same at all in reality
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
--------- Martinez ----------
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
----Luiz -- Tielemans-----
Mcginn - - - - - - - - Ramsey
--- Watkins -- Diaby -------
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on December 01, 2023, 01:22:24 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
yeah but tight little ground , not the same at all in reality

Yeah, but you said the pitch is tight and it won't suit our game, which is patently not the case.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: OCD on December 01, 2023, 01:42:33 PM
Let's twat the fuckers and then gear up for the Man City and Arsenal games.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on December 01, 2023, 01:45:14 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
yeah but tight little ground , not the same at all in reality

It's not going to stop the players running around on exactly the same sized patch of turf though, is it?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 01:56:58 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
yeah but tight little ground , not the same at all in reality

It's not going to stop the players running around on exactly the same sized patch of turf though, is it?
i've heard players in the past comment on tight little grounds having an effect on their game
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 01, 2023, 01:58:24 PM
Back in the days when pitches weren't all the same size?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 02:02:01 PM
Back in the days when pitches weren't all the same size?
Luton this season , they actually see KR as one of their strengths in the sense teams won't like it up them at the tinpot arena
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on December 01, 2023, 02:03:50 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
yeah but tight little ground , not the same at all in reality

It's not going to stop the players running around on exactly the same sized patch of turf though, is it?
i've heard players in the past comment on tight little grounds having an effect on their game

but that's still nothing to do with the pitch, as 3 people have now pointed out.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Smithy on December 01, 2023, 02:05:06 PM
It's the first game of December, and a win could send us top of the league.  Unlikely, but possible.  I'm going for a 1-2 win.  Another slow first half before dominating in the second.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 01, 2023, 02:05:07 PM
No it’s the ground, not the pitch.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 02:07:36 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
yeah but tight little ground , not the same at all in reality

It's not going to stop the players running around on exactly the same sized patch of turf though, is it?
i've heard players in the past comment on tight little grounds having an effect on their game

but that's still nothing to do with the pitch, as 3 people have now pointed out.
It's the whole package . Stands close to the pitch, limited run off areas etc .
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on December 01, 2023, 02:15:47 PM
Is English your first language?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on December 01, 2023, 02:17:29 PM
My God in heaven.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on December 01, 2023, 02:21:11 PM
It's the whole package . Stands close to the pitch, limited run off areas etc .

The space around the pitch isn't significantly different to most premier league teams and the stands aren't any steeper or closer or anything else. It's just small. Have you ever actually been to the ground or is it too 'tinpot' for your sensibilities?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bully2345 on December 01, 2023, 02:23:10 PM
"Don't back down, double down" in action here
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 01, 2023, 02:43:59 PM
While I know it's a pain for away fans because of small allocations I love there being 'tinpot' clubs in the PL. If you only had the 20 'biggest' clubs in the division it would be pretty tedious. The fact that despite all the money there's still an element of meritocracy meaning clubs like Luton and Bournemouth are rightly in the PL and clubs like Leeds/Sheff Weds aren't is what the game needs.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 01, 2023, 02:53:43 PM
               martinez

  cash     konsa   pau    moreno
 
              dougie   youri
    SJM                          JJ
             Diaby   Watkins

If all match fit that is one hell of a line up

As they have some muscle and height up front i would actually put Carlos back in with Konsa out wide for set pieces etc

This is tricky but this is also unchartered territory for this squad and they continue to improve

I think if results do go our way and we actually end the weekend top of the prem, with Cite£ and Arsenal to come  - there may be lots of drink taken  :o

UTV
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 02:54:48 PM
No way is Digne getting dropped
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 03:16:55 PM
Watkins doubtful for the game .

I'd play Zaniolo in the false 9
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on December 01, 2023, 03:20:04 PM
I would go:

Martinez

Cash Konsa Torres Digne

SJM Luiz Tielemans Ramsey

Diaby Watkins


Please, please, please for the love of god Emery, do not fuck about with Cash wide right.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on December 01, 2023, 03:24:38 PM
Watkins doubtful for the game .

Ah bugger, just noticed that on Twitter.

If he's in anyway not 100%, rest him and get him right for Man City. If he is out, I'd probably go 4-5-1 with Diaby up front, and Bailey/McGinn assisting him as appropriate.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 01, 2023, 04:00:41 PM
What’s up with Watkins then (not on twitter)?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 01, 2023, 04:07:02 PM
He's 50 / 50 according to Emery.

If he's out, then its a coin flip between Duran & Zaniolo...

Might be an idea to start with Zaniolo & if he's not doing the job by half time, bring on Duran...
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 04:07:13 PM
What’s up with Watkins then (not on twitter)?

From BBC website on the manager pressers.

Quote
The big news coming out of Unai Emery's news conference - for Aston Villa fans and fantasy league players alike - is that Ollie Watkins is a doubt but "not completely unavailable" and will be assessed before Sunday's match at Bournemouth.

Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 01, 2023, 04:11:01 PM
Only thing I saw about Ollie was that he was suffering some pain. I don't remember it mentioning where the pain was.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 04:11:04 PM
He's 50 / 50 according to Emery.

If he's out, then its a coin flip between Duran & Zaniolo...

Might be an idea to start with Zaniolo & if he's not doing the job by half time, bring on Duran...

I would reverse that and have Duran start. He showed some good movement and runs last night in the match. The other option is no direct number "9" and have JJ, Diaby and Bailey as a front three. They might not be able to hold the ball but can definitely run with it. This is mostly based on Zani maybe carrying a knock as well.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:13:40 PM
That's probably Watkins out til Jan knowing our luck with injuries
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on December 01, 2023, 04:18:42 PM
He's 50 / 50 according to Emery.

If he's out, then its a coin flip between Duran & Zaniolo...

Might be an idea to start with Zaniolo & if he's not doing the job by half time, bring on Duran...

I would reverse that and have Duran start. He showed some good movement and runs last night in the match. The other option is no direct number "9" and have JJ, Diaby and Bailey as a front three. They might not be able to hold the ball but can definitely run with it. This is mostly based on Zani maybe carrying a knock as well.

Good point about Zaniolos fitness.

Not 100% sure if he is 100%...
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 01, 2023, 04:26:47 PM
Tinpot club, tinpot stadium. Lets send them back where they belong

Thoughtful as ever.
they are though  :D .

Quite right.  The bloody cheek of these clubs with small grounds thinking they can be allowed to be part of our Premier extravaganza, it really does take the shine off. There are plenty of much bigger stadia in the championship which would improve our customer experience...Elland Road, The New Den, The Hawthorns, St Andrews .
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:39:06 PM
He's 50 / 50 according to Emery.

If he's out, then its a coin flip between Duran & Zaniolo...

Might be an idea to start with Zaniolo & if he's not doing the job by half time, bring on Duran...

I would reverse that and have Duran start. He showed some good movement and runs last night in the match.
honestly don't think Duran is ready for the big league (other than brief cameos)
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 01, 2023, 04:42:07 PM
I'd rather play Duran than risk a half fit Ollie as he won't give us what he usually does if he's not fit, and we risk him doing more damage and being out for longer. If you're going to rest a player rather than risk them a week where we play Bournemouth and Mostar seems about as good a chance as you'll have.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:44:22 PM
I'd rather play Duran than risk a half fit Ollie as he won't give us what he usually does if he's not fit, and we risk him doing more damage and being out for longer. If you're going to rest a player rather than risk them a week where we play Bournemouth and Mostar seems about as good a chance as you'll have.
I'd either play Zaniolo as a false 9
or Diaby and push an extra midfielder in there - eg. Bailey
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 04:54:02 PM
I'd rather play Duran than risk a half fit Ollie as he won't give us what he usually does if he's not fit, and we risk him doing more damage and being out for longer. If you're going to rest a player rather than risk them a week where we play Bournemouth and Mostar seems about as good a chance as you'll have.
I'd either play Zaniolo as a false 9
or Diaby and push an extra midfielder in there - eg. Bailey

Duran has started less games and played a lot less minutes then Zani, yet he has 4 goals for us with two against prem opposition. I would state he is as ready for the big league as Zaniolo. Especially against Bournemouth where physicality might be needed.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: OCD on December 01, 2023, 05:01:01 PM
I'm still waiting for Zaniolo to do something of merit. If Watkins isn't right, I'd start Duran.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Baldy on December 01, 2023, 05:01:49 PM
If need be, Duran  for me. He's looking lean, mean and goal hungry.

He knows he may not get many chances to play and will be desperate for a goal.

Cometh the moment, cometh the ...........
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 01, 2023, 05:10:51 PM
Watkins being out is a big problem.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: glinch on December 01, 2023, 05:15:10 PM
Are there any pubs in Brum that will have the game on?
(Apologies if this has been asked a million times before)
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: not3bad on December 01, 2023, 05:19:14 PM
Duran is the deputy so he's the one who would step in for me if Watkins is unavailable, and he's already had some minutes this week so I reckon he's oven ready.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 05:21:05 PM
Are there any pubs in Brum that will have the game on?
(Apologies if this has been asked a million times before)

None that would admit it if is not an actual televised game by Sky.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on December 01, 2023, 06:02:59 PM
Says "muscle injury" for Watkins on the FPL site.

Will we ever have a full strength side this season? Although better to have it for the games after this one, I suppose.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 06:06:41 PM
Will we ever have a full strength side this season? Although better to have it for the games after this one, I suppose.

Holy Trinity geezer said Buendia was dated for February/March on his Legia video, not sure where he got that info from.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on December 01, 2023, 06:13:06 PM
Will we ever have a full strength side this season? Although better to have it for the games after this one, I suppose.

Holy Trinity geezer said Buendia was dated for February/March on his Legia video, not sure where he got that info from.

I wasn't really thinking of Buendia and Mings, to be honest. Just that we've got Ramsey and Moreno back but Ollie is now out. I didn't expect to see Buendia or Mings again until next season, so it would be a bonus to get one of them back, even just for the last couple of months.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: glinch on December 01, 2023, 06:23:10 PM
Are there any pubs in Brum that will have the game on?
(Apologies if this has been asked a million times before)

None that would admit it if is not an actual televised game by Sky.
👍

Ah right... will have to make do with watching it on my phone then!

If any one feels generous enough to drop a clue to one, please do.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on December 01, 2023, 06:43:19 PM
It's a tight pitch which won't suit our expansive game

It's exactly the same size as our pitch
yeah but tight little ground , not the same at all in reality

Is this a riddle?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 06:44:31 PM
Are there any pubs in Brum that will have the game on?
(Apologies if this has been asked a million times before)
Sacred Heart might be worth trying
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Skerra on December 01, 2023, 07:00:36 PM
Tim, you’re being very optimistic thinking Watkins will be back in January. A Villa slight knock usually means it’s career ending!!
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TonyD on December 01, 2023, 07:01:31 PM
Duran over Zani.   
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 07:05:47 PM
I reckon he'll move things around a bit and play Diaby in the Watkins role.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 07:07:36 PM
I reckon he'll move things around a bit and play Diaby in the Watkins role.
yep quite possible
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on December 01, 2023, 07:15:13 PM
When Diaby signed it was said he could play anywhere across the front, so it would be good to give that a trial and see if he can.

The same was said for Zaniolo.

If we have to be without Watkins, trying out all other "striker" options before January is probably a good thing.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 07:16:08 PM
It's with a heavy heart , but i have just benched Watkins in my fantasy team.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 01, 2023, 07:29:04 PM
If Watkins is out Emery may start with a front three of Duran with Bailey and Diaby either side.
Tough game this, would be a wounder not to go into the Man City game on the back of a win.

A close 2-0 us (Bailey, McGinn)

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Luiz
Mcginn
Tilemans
Bailey
Duran
Diaby
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Villafirst on December 01, 2023, 07:46:05 PM
There was always a chance Ollie would pick up an injury. He's carried the attack since August. I said back then that we were too light in numbers upfront. J Philogene-Bidace should've stayed after his promising USA tour, and he was reportedly let go for only £5m! We definitely need striker cover in January, along with RB cover.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 07:56:38 PM
Selling off the kids - Jaden, Archer, A Ramsey, is the one thing I don't like about the Emery era
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 01, 2023, 08:02:42 PM
Selling off the kids - Jaden, Archer, A Ramsey, is the one thing I don't like about the Emery era
Not one of them would be in the first team or perhaps even on the bench at the moment. I like them all, but none of them are currently at the level of what we have.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 08:04:48 PM
Selling off the kids - Jaden, Archer, A Ramsey, is the one thing I don't like about the Emery era
Not one of them would be in the first team or perhaps even on the bench at the moment. I like them all, but none of them are currently at the level of what we have.
Yet we have Duran starting games lol. I'd take Archer all day long over him. Ramsey would struggle but Bidace looks good, did in pre season too.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 01, 2023, 08:07:27 PM
Selling off the kids - Jaden, Archer, A Ramsey, is the one thing I don't like about the Emery era
Not one of them would be in the first team or perhaps even on the bench at the moment. I like them all, but none of them are currently at the level of what we have.
Yet we have Duran starting games lol. I'd take Archer all day long over him. Ramsey would struggle but Bidace looks good, did in pre season too.

You’ve mentioned Duran several times on several threads, you don’t think much of him. I’m not sure Archer has done anything  to prove he is a better bet.
I like Bidace too, but competing with Diaby and Bailey on his current form, naw.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 01, 2023, 08:08:51 PM
Selling off the kids - Jaden, Archer, A Ramsey, is the one thing I don't like about the Emery era
Not one of them would be in the first team or perhaps even on the bench at the moment. I like them all, but none of them are currently at the level of what we have.
Yet we have Duran starting games lol. I'd take Archer all day long over him. Ramsey would struggle but Bidace looks good, did in pre season too.
Agree
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 01, 2023, 08:13:26 PM
We have options should Ollie not be fit. I quite like the idea of Diaby playing through the middle.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 01, 2023, 08:19:52 PM
Selling off the kids - Jaden, Archer, A Ramsey, is the one thing I don't like about the Emery era
Not one of them would be in the first team or perhaps even on the bench at the moment. I like them all, but none of them are currently at the level of what we have.
Yet we have Duran starting games lol. I'd take Archer all day long over him. Ramsey would struggle but Bidace looks good, did in pre season too.

You’ve mentioned Duran several times on several threads, you don’t think much of him. I’m not sure Archer has done anything  to prove he is a better bet.
I like Bidace too, but competing with Diaby and Bailey on his current form, naw.

Agree.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 08:21:47 PM
We have options should Ollie not be fit. I quite like the idea of Diaby playing through the middle.
We were told it's one of his USP's when he signed.
Let's try it then
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 01, 2023, 08:32:45 PM
If Watkins is out Emery may start with a front three of Duran with Bailey and Diaby either side.
Tough game this, would be a wounder not to go into the Man City game on the back of a win.

A close 2-0 us (Bailey, McGinn)

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Luiz
Mcginn
Tilemans
Bailey
Duran
Diaby
We really can not afford to concede the midfield.
So 2 out of the 3 of Diaby, Duran and Bailey.
I think it will be Bailey that misses out.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 09:05:14 PM
Selling off the kids - Jaden, Archer, A Ramsey, is the one thing I don't like about the Emery era

Jaden: I've seen mentioned it might have been one Emery did want to keep but the player wanted guaranteed playing time. But he is playing in the Championship against Championship level teams so that is something to be aware of.

Archer: Has had a lot more time on the pitch, yet has only scored the same amount of league goals as Duran, albeit with Championship level players around him.

A Ramsey: Even worse then Archer. Has suffered some injuries but struggling to even get starts in a poor midfield.

So whilst I would have preferred to keep them at the time, it is not like we have suffered with not having them here. And if selling them meant we freed up some FFP space to get other players in the summer AND in January, ultimately losing them has improved the team.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 09:06:51 PM
If Watkins is out Emery may start with a front three of Duran with Bailey and Diaby either side.
Tough game this, would be a wounder not to go into the Man City game on the back of a win.

A close 2-0 us (Bailey, McGinn)

Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Luiz
Mcginn
Tilemans
Bailey
Duran
Diaby
We really can not afford to concede the midfield.
So 2 out of the 3 of Diaby, Duran and Bailey.
I think it will be Bailey that misses out.

Replace Bailey with JJ in a more advanced position is my guess, then bring Bailey on in his super sub role.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 09:09:55 PM
These are a southern version of Burnley , physical battle ahead, solanke and Billing who is one dirty bastard will need watching . There may even be a case for Dendonker at some point in this one.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: not3bad on December 01, 2023, 10:18:52 PM
Dendocker is possibly a start in the pivot for me as Tielemans has struggled in that role when he's been played there.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 10:38:14 PM
Dendocker is possibly a start in the pivot for me as Tielemans has struggled in that role when he's been played there.
agree, a needs must type performance to grind out 3 points
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: mrfuse on December 02, 2023, 09:19:37 AM
Dendocker is possibly a start in the pivot for me as Tielemans has struggled in that role when he's been played there.
agree, a needs must type performance to grind out 3 points
Not for me I would rather McGinn drop into the Pivot and use one of or a combination of Zaniolo, Bailey, Ramsey. Under Uni, McGinn played that role well.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 09:33:39 AM
what we can't do is concede an early goal. We need to come out of the traps faster in these away games
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on December 02, 2023, 09:34:39 AM
Hopefully Watkins will be fit to start. Would be nice to start an away game on the front foot and get the first goal.

They’ve picked up after a crap start but I think we’ll have too much for them.

The first of 3 victories in the next 7 days…and if that comes to fruition, we’re in the title race!

1-2 AVFC
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: DrGonzo on December 02, 2023, 10:19:23 AM
With Kamara missing I can easily see a back 3 of Torres, Carlos and Konsa with Luiz in front of them, JJ, SJM,Cash and Digne, and Tielemans, Duran and Diaby up top.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 02, 2023, 10:37:07 AM
If Watkins is a doubt I’d start Zaniolo up top. Leaving us Bailey & Duran as impact subs as not sure Zaniolo has played a full 90 for us has he?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on December 02, 2023, 10:41:45 AM
If Watkins is a doubt I’d start Zaniolo up top. Leaving us Bailey & Duran as impact subs as not sure Zaniolo has played a full 90 for us has he?

Not in the league he hasn't. 75 is the most he's played, and that was only twice. Not sure about the other competitions.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 02, 2023, 11:21:13 AM
Dendocker is possibly a start in the pivot for me as Tielemans has struggled in that role when he's been played there.
agree, a needs must type performance to grind out 3 points
Not for me I would rather McGinn drop into the Pivot and use one of or a combination of Zaniolo, Bailey, Ramsey. Under Uni, McGinn played that role well.

I think Emery will go with McGinn in the middle. It takes him from his best position though on the right. The Donk is a long way down the pecking order currently.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:21:47 AM
If Watkins is a doubt I’d start Zaniolo up top. Leaving us Bailey & Duran as impact subs as not sure Zaniolo has played a full 90 for us has he?
i'd play zaniolo as a false 9
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on December 02, 2023, 12:12:43 PM
Important to get three points here to set us up for the big home double header coming up
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 02, 2023, 12:52:09 PM
Important to get three points here to set us up for the big home double header coming up

That's my thought too, just need to get the three points. A win would ease some of the pressure ahead of the two home games, meaning 2 defeats or a draw or two wouldn't be a disaster in terms of top 4/5.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 12:59:56 PM
Important to get three points here to set us up for the big home double header coming up

That's my thought too, just need to get the three points. A win would ease some of the pressure ahead of the two home games, meaning 2 defeats or a draw or two wouldn't be a disaster in terms of top 4/5.
psychologically it would . 2 draws would be just acceptable but ideally 4 points (or more)
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 02, 2023, 01:02:51 PM
This is why we need another striker. There is no like for like back up for Watkins.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Matt C on December 02, 2023, 01:39:39 PM
Not convinced Emery fully trusts Duran yet so expecting either Bailey with Diaby through the middle or Zaniolo in for this one.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on December 02, 2023, 02:04:11 PM
Important to get three points here to set us up for the big home double header coming up

That's my thought too, just need to get the three points. A win would ease some of the pressure ahead of the two home games, meaning 2 defeats or a draw or two wouldn't be a disaster in terms of top 4/5.
psychologically it would . 2 draws would be just acceptable but ideally 4 points (or more)

I'd be pretty happy with a win and a loss. We don't do draws, remember.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on December 02, 2023, 02:09:32 PM
I fancy us against City more than Arsenal but one game at time. Let's get tomorrow out the way first.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 02:36:19 PM
There's no way the record signing doesn't start , just a case what position he plays
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on December 02, 2023, 04:33:39 PM
Important to get three points here to set us up for the big home double header coming up

That's my thought too, just need to get the three points. A win would ease some of the pressure ahead of the two home games, meaning 2 defeats or a draw or two wouldn't be a disaster in terms of top 4/5.
Three points at Bournemouth then 6 points at home for me. FTF!
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: mrfuse on December 02, 2023, 05:23:16 PM
This is why we need another striker. There is no like for like back up for Watkins.

I don't think anyone has a like for like backup striker.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 02, 2023, 05:30:19 PM
This is why we need another striker. There is no like for like back up for Watkins.

I don't think anyone has a like for like backup striker.
Yeh,Big Jhon looks about as back up to Watkins as anyone.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on December 02, 2023, 06:12:39 PM
This is why we need another striker. There is no like for like back up for Watkins.

I don't think anyone has a like for like backup striker.

Even England don't.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 02, 2023, 07:23:13 PM
I don't think anyone has a like for like backup striker.

Even England don't.

It's tough to find another international striker with such a gormless face.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 07:41:33 PM
I don't think anyone has a like for like backup striker.

Even England don't.

It's tough to find another international striker with such a gormless face.

Frankie Boyle dropped a 'funny but a bit off maybe, in case there's a medical reason he speaks like that' joke about Kane before the Qatar world cup

"Harry Kane is already doing his best to promote gay rights ahead of Qatar by speaking like he's got three cocks in his mouth". Or something like that.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 02, 2023, 09:47:27 PM
Going to be tough, especially if we don’t have Ollie. It’d be nice if we could get a couple of early goals and get control of it.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 02, 2023, 10:39:16 PM
This Bournemouth fan video is entirely about (and largely complimentary to) Villa for the first 20 minutes, for any 'getting credit' fans.


I engage on these psychic journeys so you don't have to.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TonyD on December 02, 2023, 10:56:52 PM
Massive game tomorrow.

Really need 3 points by hook or by crook.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 02, 2023, 11:12:22 PM
Massive game tomorrow.

Really need 3 points by hook or by crook.

Agreed, could set the tone for December. 2-1 to us will do.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:44:00 PM
This Bournemouth fan video is entirely about (and largely complimentary to) Villa for the first 20 minutes, for any 'getting credit' fans.


I engage on these psychic journeys so you don't have to.

Some of the huge amounts of fan created content around these days is of such good quality.

Incredible the way technology has democratised this stuff
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on December 02, 2023, 11:56:10 PM
2-1 to us.

Tielemens with the winner.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 03, 2023, 08:11:49 AM
It's absolutely freezing in the UK. Not ideal conditions for playing or watching today.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Mister E on December 03, 2023, 09:46:33 AM
Villa are starting a match day in the top four for the first time since December 2009, when they lost 3-0 at Arsenal. What are the odds of a 3-0 home win today?!
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on December 03, 2023, 09:52:12 AM
Villa are starting a match day in the top four for the first time since December 2009, when they lost 3-0 at Arsenal. What are the odds of a 3-0 home win today?!

Oh dear. I remember that game. I was in Seoul surrounded by Arsenal fans.

A rubbish evening.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on December 03, 2023, 09:59:30 AM
It's absolutely freezing in the UK. Not ideal conditions for playing or watching today.
I'm only a few miles from there and it's 7.7c so should be fine.... though a bit on the damp side.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: rougegorge on December 03, 2023, 10:01:10 AM
Just seen Cash and Watkins in the Marriott hotel. Someone wanted Watkins to autograph a hat, but he said he had to rush as he was going to a meeting.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 03, 2023, 10:04:49 AM
It's absolutely freezing in the UK. Not ideal conditions for playing or watching today.
I'm only a few miles from there and it's 7.7c so should be fine.... though a bit on the damp side.
Just checked 9c in Bournemouth, only 2c up here. It's like tropical down there
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 03, 2023, 10:10:55 AM
Just seen Cash and Watkins in the Marriott hotel. Someone wanted Watkins to autograph a hat, but he said he had to rush as he was going to a meeting.

That's tomorrow's Meaning Evil headline sorted, "Ollie Watkins in fan snub shocker!!"
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: rougegorge on December 03, 2023, 10:15:02 AM
😄
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on December 03, 2023, 10:19:39 AM
Just seen Cash and Watkins in the Marriott hotel. Someone wanted Watkins to autograph a hat, but he said he had to rush as he was going to a meeting.

That's tomorrow's Meaning Evil headline sorted, "Ollie Watkins in fan snub shocker!!"

Clear indication then that he wants out, along with half the first team squad, and we will struggle to hold on to them if bids come in from big clubs.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 03, 2023, 10:33:07 AM
This is why we need another striker. There is no like for like back up for Watkins.

Watkins is our top league scorer with 7 in 13 which is a fine return. However bear in mind that we have scored 31 this season so we really spread the fire power around.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on December 03, 2023, 10:38:26 AM
Just seen Cash and Watkins in the Marriott hotel. Someone wanted Watkins to autograph a hat, but he said he had to rush as he was going to a meeting.

That's tomorrow's Meaning Evil headline sorted, "Ollie Watkins in fan snub shocker!!"
(https://i.ibb.co/sgGdRrv/Geoff-Beanes-report-on-the-violence-at-the-Aston-Villa-v-Rangers-match.png) (https://ibb.co/K5kphHj)
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 03, 2023, 10:45:18 AM
looks like it will remain at 9c in Bournemouth at KO time but a strong possibility of rain , might suit our slick passing game
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on December 03, 2023, 10:57:07 AM
I kind of miss Saturday games.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on December 03, 2023, 11:01:13 AM
Just seen Cash and Watkins in the Marriott hotel. Someone wanted Watkins to autograph a hat, but he said he had to rush as he was going to a meeting.

Our modus operandi under Emery, certainly after European games on the Thursday, is that the analysis of the opposition for the next league game seems to happen on the morning of the match. I guess it keeps it fresh in the players heads.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on December 03, 2023, 11:40:10 AM
5 live just now did a round up of today's matches and jizzed over Spurs chance to go back into the top four.
Interestingly we weren't mentioned.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 03, 2023, 11:42:24 AM
5 live just now did a round up of today's matches and jizzed over Spurs chance to go back into the top four.
Interestingly we weren't mentioned.
Q'uel surprise
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: sonyhill on December 03, 2023, 11:43:08 AM
Anyone know the away pub today?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV84 on December 03, 2023, 12:20:03 PM
Tielemans starting?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 03, 2023, 12:25:52 PM
5 live just now did a round up of today's matches and jizzed over Spurs chance to go back into the top four.
Interestingly we weren't mentioned.

Q'uel surprise

Think it's 'Quelle surprise'.

As you were.

Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 03, 2023, 12:28:20 PM
5 live just now did a round up of today's matches and jizzed over Spurs chance to go back into the top four.
Interestingly we weren't mentioned.


good I prefer it that way
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VillaTim on December 03, 2023, 12:28:36 PM
5 live just now did a round up of today's matches and jizzed over Spurs chance to go back into the top four.
Interestingly we weren't mentioned.

Q'uel surprise

Think it's 'Quelle surprise'.

As you were.
Qui s'en fout
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on December 03, 2023, 12:31:15 PM
 all these linguists we have  :)
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on December 03, 2023, 12:37:11 PM
Baissez moi
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Tuscans on December 03, 2023, 12:52:52 PM
Ollie plays
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 03, 2023, 12:54:30 PM
Q'uel surprise

Think it's 'Quelle surprise'.

As you were.

Qui s'en fout

All right, Tom.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 03, 2023, 12:55:29 PM
Ollie plays

Good news, thought he might be when he was going to a meeting this morning.

Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on December 03, 2023, 01:55:32 PM
Baissez moi
BaiSez-moi !
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