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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on October 15, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
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Sunday 22nd October, kick off 4:30pm.
Yes I'm a bit early but who cares.
Bit unsure about this one. I would normally back us for a win but with the international break it's a but more uncertain as to what we will see, imo.
Still going for a win though. By one goal.
Come on Villa!
FTF 8)
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We never beat West Ham. 1-1
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2-0 them, for the reason Risso gave.
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Like Risso, think it will be a draw. Unai doesn't do 0-0s so maybe 2-2.
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3-0 to the Villa. FTF!
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0-2.
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Bad runs can’t go on for ever. They are decent in Moyesish way, we are better. 2-1 ( Watkins, Diaby to break his VP duck), we march on.
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Us 4 Them 1
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Villa 3 West Ham 1
So Nicoló tells me.
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A good gauge of how we are progressing and will go 3-2
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3-1 win. Hopefully the international break will have done us good and Moreno and JJ will be available.
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No chance Ramsey is back, wouldn’t think he’ll be available until January.
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2-0 home win. Watkins and Dougie(pen).
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1-0 Cash.
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About time we beat these but am expecting a tough game
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We are on 10 home league wins in row.
They are on 10 undefeated against us.
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0-0
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Hopefully we will see Moreno back… sometime in 2024 me thinks!!
2-2 for me as well.
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3-0 home win
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Tight game but 1-0 to us I think
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2-0 home win
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I reckon in terms of Premier League matches (i know i know) that we have drew more times against West Ham than any other team.
I've checked and its 21 times. Everton is 19.
So 3-0 Villa.
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2 1
Diaby Watkins
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3-1 to Villa. About time we beat the Hammers. It'll be interesting to see if Zaniolo is in the squad this weekend?
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Us 4 Them 1
The result of my first match... 18th March 1978... Gregory (2), Deehan and Mortimer.
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And the result of my first ever trip to Upton Park in 95. What a day that was. Savo on fire
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Is Martínez the last player back from international duty and is there any chance he may miss this? Playing on Sunday instead of Saturday surely helps.
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And the result of my first ever trip to Upton Park in 95. What a day that was. Savo on fire
One of a fair few good away days back then. I think Tommy Johnson came on as a sub for one of the midfielders (maybe due to injury) so we had Savo Yorke and Johnson on, i remember thinking it looked a bit too attacking but we then proceeded to pummel them. One of Johnson's best games.
Anyway, we owe them one so i'll go with a narrow win, 1-0 or 2-1
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And the result of my first ever trip to Upton Park in 95. What a day that was. Savo on fire
I was at that one too. Savo played well but it was Tommy Johnson coming on as a sub for Townsend that really got the team going that day, he was brilliant.
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West Ham have been a bit of a pain in the arse to us just lately and that blunts my enthusiasm somewhat. Of course we await the outcome of the internationals from an injuries point of view but with a constantly changing defence I can see us conceding. Equally we are likely to score which leads me to....
2-2
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Discovering that 5-2-3 formation led to some good results in the games afterwards too I think.
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Just to let people know a stat . This season West Ham have allowed the most crosses against them in the Premier League
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Just to let people know a stat . This season West Ham have allowed the most crosses against them in the Premier League
Good stat mate. Maybe we can get at them this way.
Welcome back 8)
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How many goals have they conceded from crosses though? Maybe they're doing that Leicester title-winning tactic of letting them come in because they've organised themselves enough in the box. Or maybe they 'concede' lots of crosses that are actually very speculative balls in from deep, because they're among the only old-school sit-back-and-counter teams in the division.
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We also seem to get an awful lot of corners but hardly ever look like scoring from them.
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These lot will be difficult to play against but I think we'll just edge it.
If we can keep JWP from having too many dangrous free kicks and keep Bowen quiet I think we'll be ok.
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just win please Villa....loads of West Ham round here and about time we put them back in their box...
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The Doc
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We also seem to get an awful lot of corners but hardly ever look like scoring from them.
I dunno about that. I'd say we've had a fair few good chances fall to central defenders' heads lately but they've not taken them. Konsa and Diego Carlos certainly have, and didn't Lenglet have one against Zrinjski? It's something we could improve, but more in the finishing than delivery.
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Villa 3 West Ham 1
So Nicoló tells me.
Very Good!
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How many goals have they conceded from crosses though? Maybe they're doing that Leicester title-winning tactic of letting them come in because they've organised themselves enough in the box. Or maybe they 'concede' lots of crosses that are actually very speculative balls in from deep, because they're among the only old-school sit-back-and-counter teams in the division.
West Ham allow the opposition the most touches in their penalty area.
Clearly a ploy.
But is encouraging.
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Just managed to get a couple of tickets in the North Stand, we’ll lose now, sorry
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We also seem to get an awful lot of corners but hardly ever look like scoring from them.
And free kicks. It's definitely an area we can improve on. The last goal scored directly from a free kick I can recall was Lucas Digne ages ago. Now watch JWP slam one in on Sunday just to ram home the point.
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Just managed to get a couple of tickets in the North Stand, we’ll lose now, sorry
Hey brilliant news for you !
Enjoy the occasion! Bring us luck !
Up the Villa!
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We also seem to get an awful lot of corners but hardly ever look like scoring from them.
And free kicks. It's definitely an area we can improve on. The last goal scored directly from a free kick I can recall was Lucas Digne ages ago. Now watch JWP slam one in on Sunday just to ram home the point.
Dougie scored one against spurs 3rd last game of last season, so not as far back as it seems
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We also seem to get an awful lot of corners but hardly ever look like scoring from them.
And free kicks. It's definitely an area we can improve on. The last goal scored directly from a free kick I can recall was Lucas Digne ages ago. Now watch JWP slam one in on Sunday just to ram home the point.
Dougie scored one against spurs 3rd last game of last season, so not as far back as it seems
47 Corners this season
15 taken short.
29 inswinging
3 outswinging
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We also seem to get an awful lot of corners but hardly ever look like scoring from them.
And free kicks. It's definitely an area we can improve on. The last goal scored directly from a free kick I can recall was Lucas Digne ages ago. Now watch JWP slam one in on Sunday just to ram home the point.
Dougie scored one against spurs 3rd last game of last season, so not as far back as it seems
Dougie is the player I hoped would be our expert deadball free kick taker but despite his big improvement as a player under Emery he hasn't really been the threat I was hoping he would be at free kicks. Probably a bit of stereotyping on my part due to him being Brazilian.
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From these corners and free kicks Diego Carlos has missed several chances with his head. He manages to get a chance each game and is a threat but he hasn't scored when he should have.
I think he's due one.
It 'll come soon.
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We also seem to get an awful lot of corners but hardly ever look like scoring from them.
And free kicks. It's definitely an area we can improve on. The last goal scored directly from a free kick I can recall was Lucas Digne ages ago. Now watch JWP slam one in on Sunday just to ram home the point.
Dougie scored one against spurs 3rd last game of last season, so not as far back as it seems
That was ridiculously poor goalkeeping though. Any decent keeper would have saved that
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We have a rubbish record against these - hopefully we can buck that trend here.
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just win please Villa....loads of West Ham round here and about time we put them back in their box...
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The Doc
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I'm with you - live just outside Chelmsford so mostly West Ham. Was bad enough after them being shut all season not only couldn't we beat them but they also won a cup after being the worst side
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1-1.
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I reckon in terms of Premier League matches (i know i know) that we have drew more times against West Ham than any other team.
I've checked and its 21 times. Everton is 19.
So 3-0 Villa.
My first ever game was 0-0 v West Ham in March 1997. Can't remember anything about the game. Had a look at a brief match report and seems Frank Lampard Jr broke his leg, was only 18 at the time.
We've beaten them twice in the last decade and since coming back up it's just 3 draws from 8 games.
It's quite odd how it works with certain teams as we generally had a pretty good record v Moyes when he was Everton manager, think he only won twice at VP in his 11 year spell there, already won more than that in his West Ham spell.
We need to get control of midfield for this. Can't say I'm looking forward to Antonio constantly backing into Pau, would be very surprised if we kept a clean sheet in this.
2-2. Might not be enough for some but we do have Luton at home the weekend after.
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Referee: David Coote. VAR: Chris Kavanagh.
Only officiated 2 of our matches last season
Was the official last season v West Ham in 1-0 loss at home.
And also final game of season v Brighton.
Can't say he's a top ref.
Coote given 2 penalties in 2 games from 4 this season.
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Looks like our old mate Sendo is logged in, haven't heard off him yet the two faced get.
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Looks like our old mate Sendo is logged in, haven't heard off him yet the two faced get.
I think he is busy organising the Hendo appreciation society.
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Looks like our old mate Sendo is logged in, haven't heard off him yet the two faced get.
I will never, ever understand why that two-faced shit gets a hero's welcome every time he slithers back on here.
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After an international break anything could happen. I expect a draw.
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Looks like our old mate Sendo is logged in, haven't heard off him yet the two faced get.
I will never, ever understand why that two-faced shit gets a hero's welcome every time he slithers back on here.
He's very nice to us on here and not many Villans check Knees Up Muvva Brown.
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Looks like our old mate Sendo is logged in, haven't heard off him yet the two faced get.
I will never, ever understand why that two-faced shit gets a hero's welcome every time he slithers back on here.
He's very nice to us on here and not many Villans check Knees Up Muvva Brown.
On here he's all smiles, on three says what he really thinks of us. What's so good about that?
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Looks like our old mate Sendo is logged in, haven't heard off him yet the two faced get.
I will never, ever understand why that two-faced shit gets a hero's welcome every time he slithers back on here.
He's very nice to us on here and not many Villans check Knees Up Muvva Brown.
On here he's all smiles, on three says what he really thinks of us. What's so good about that?
It’s the same mentality as wanting Greasy back, the modern day equivalent of cap doffing.
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Most folk haven't read/go on KUMB to witness any two-facedness.
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Most folk haven't read/go on KUMB to witness any two-facedness.
I had a quick look yesterday, he mentions having a sound mate who's a Villa fan in the face of some strange claims that we hate them (like we'd care enough) but says it's probably because he's not a Brummie.
The fucking prick.
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I can see us winning 2-1.
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For lots of personal reasons I hope we dick them. I'd be happy with 1-2 with a bullish Watkins scoring both having enjoyed his international reasons.
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They're awful uppity for a non-entity that's won 1 trophy in 40 years and barely fuck all in their history. Amazing what a handful of top half finishes does, weighed up against twice as many relegations. The entitlement is strong on KUMB.
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They're awful uppity for a non-entity that's won 1 trophy in 40 years and barely fuck all in their history. Amazing what a handful of top half finishes does, weighed up against twice as many relegations. The entitlement is strong on KUMB.
You're not wrong there mate.
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Had a look on KUMB, and on their version of the pre-match thread there was a derogatory comment about "a club Villa's size". How on earth do West Ham think they're in any way bigger than us? They've had a taxpayer funded bigger stadium for a few years, but that's it.
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West Ham aren't as big as Wolves or Albion, nevermind us. This is a contender for the most successful period in their history, and yet domestically they've done fuck all apart from not be relegated for a while. Which does at least make a change.
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They're awful uppity for a non-entity that's won 1 trophy in 40 years and barely fuck all in their history. Amazing what a handful of top half finishes does, weighed up against twice as many relegations. The entitlement is strong on KUMB.
In fairness they did win the World Cup in 66.
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They're awful uppity for a non-entity that's won 1 trophy in 40 years and barely fuck all in their history. Amazing what a handful of top half finishes does, weighed up against twice as many relegations. The entitlement is strong on KUMB.
In fairness they did win the World Cup in 66.
And only ever killed their own.
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Had a look on KUMB, and on their version of the pre-match thread there was a derogatory comment about "a club Villa's size". How on earth do West Ham think they're in any way bigger than us? They've had a taxpayer funded bigger stadium for a few years, but that's it.
Their owners are famous for selling dildos and strap ons. Move on. Levels.
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Bloody hell, that KUMB forum is hilarious. I'd even say it rivals Molineux mix in terms of delusions of grandeur.
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Just best these f*ckers please. Sick to death of them getting jammy undeserved deflected goals.
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Bloody hell, that KUMB forum is hilarious. I'd even say it rivals Molineux mix in terms of delusions of grandeur.
I really don't think they're as delusional as Wolves but some of them have an odd view of our feelings towards them. I don't like them I don't dislike them. They're just there which is how I'd assume they'd see us. One of them said "I hate villa and villa fans were desperate for us to lose in the conference cup final" Really? I remember being in the pub and the game was on with no sound. Mainly villa in that pub and most people were busy enjoying their evening and the football fans amongst us were watching with mild interest. When they picked up the trophy the only comments I heard were "fair play to em" I don't know of any villa fan who has strong feelings either way about West Ham. Someone on there used the boring old "yeah well birmingham is a shithole" lazy line. Their heartland is Romford, Ilford, Dagenham and Harlow. There's really no room to criticise anywhere else if you live in those desperate places.
Anyway more importantly it will be 3-1 to the mighty Aston Villa.
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They're awful uppity for a non-entity that's won 1 trophy in 40 years and barely fuck all in their history. Amazing what a handful of top half finishes does, weighed up against twice as many relegations. The entitlement is strong on KUMB.
In fairness they did win the World Cup in 66.
And they can fart in the bath.
Villa 2-1.
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Bloody hell, that KUMB forum is hilarious. I'd even say it rivals Molineux mix in terms of delusions of grandeur.
I really don't think they're as delusional as Wolves but some of them have an odd view of our feelings towards them. I don't like them I don't dislike them. They're just there which is how I'd assume they'd see us. One of them said "I hate villa and villa fans were desperate for us to lose in the conference cup final" Really? I remember being in the pub and the game was on with no sound. Mainly villa in that pub and most people were busy enjoying their evening and the football fans amongst us were watching with mild interest. When they picked up the trophy the only comments I heard were "fair play to em" I don't know of any villa fan who has strong feelings either way about West Ham. Someone on there used the boring old "yeah well birmingham is a shithole" lazy line. Their heartland is Romford, Ilford, Dagenham and Harlow. There's really no room to criticise anywhere else if you live in those desperate places.
Anyway more importantly it will be 3-1 to the mighty Aston Villa.
half of them don't even live in those areas anymore they all live in small villages like mine, sit around in the local village pubs raising their voices arguing who is the most East End out of them all and they all knew the Krays and went to Violet's funeral apparently....
like you Edge I neither like or dislike them....a non entity to me.
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The Doc
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Aside from jokey 'kit stealers' references, I too have never met a Villa fan remotely interested in West Ham Utd. Weird.
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
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Bloody hell, that KUMB forum is hilarious. I'd even say it rivals Molineux mix in terms of delusions of grandeur.
I really don't think they're as delusional as Wolves but some of them have an odd view of our feelings towards them. I don't like them I don't dislike them. They're just there which is how I'd assume they'd see us. One of them said "I hate villa and villa fans were desperate for us to lose in the conference cup final" Really? I remember being in the pub and the game was on with no sound. Mainly villa in that pub and most people were busy enjoying their evening and the football fans amongst us were watching with mild interest. When they picked up the trophy the only comments I heard were "fair play to em" I don't know of any villa fan who has strong feelings either way about West Ham. Someone on there used the boring old "yeah well birmingham is a shithole" lazy line. Their heartland is Romford, Ilford, Dagenham and Harlow. There's really no room to criticise anywhere else if you live in those desperate places.
Anyway more importantly it will be 3-1 to the mighty Aston Villa.
half of them don't even live in those areas anymore they all live in small villages like mine, sit around in the local village pubs raising their voices arguing who is the most East End out of them all and they all knew the Krays and went to Violet's funeral apparently....
like you Edge I neither like or dislike them....a non entity to me.
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The Doc
Ma Krays funeral must've been bigger than the Queen's. About 2 million mourners claim to have been there. Bit like Liverpool and the Beatles. According to the amount of Scousers who claim to have been in the same class as John, Paul, George and Ringo the classrooms must've all been the size of the Albert Hall.
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At least they'd know how many holes it takes to fill it.
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
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At least they'd know how many holes it takes to fill it.
4 thousand?
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That's them!
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Going man for man there is only Bowen that i would actually have in our starting X1 - in fact in the Bailey position he would be bloody fantastic
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
Yes, West Ham were always welcome opposition in the 70s and 80s - they only beat us once in a league game. The media seemed to love them, but Bonds, Lampard, Martin, Devonshire, Brooking, Cottee etc often seemed a soft touch.
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Yes, West Ham were always welcome opposition in the 70s and 80s - they only beat us once in a league game. The media seemed to love them, but Bonds, Lampard, Martin, Devonshire, Brooking, Cottee etc often seemed a soft touch.
That FA Cup quarter-final though and Ray effin' Stewart. Aside from that, I don't really mind West Ham.
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No feelings for them either way. Mostly forget they even exist except for when we play them.
Us 3-0 Them.
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Yes, West Ham were always welcome opposition in the 70s and 80s - they only beat us once in a league game. The media seemed to love them, but Bonds, Lampard, Martin, Devonshire, Brooking, Cottee etc often seemed a soft touch.
That FA Cup quarter-final though and Ray effin' Stewart. Aside from that, I don't really mind West Ham.
It's strange the things you remember. We had taken my mother-in-law for a train trip to Blackpool that day and I didn't manage to find out the score until we got back as far as Crewe station. I was very upset. It's quite right that usually that team was a pushover and I don't think players like Bonds, Lampard senior, Martin, Stewart etc. deserved the "academy of football" sobriquet. And Blackpool wasn't much fun either.
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Yes, West Ham were always welcome opposition in the 70s and 80s - they only beat us once in a league game. The media seemed to love them, but Bonds, Lampard, Martin, Devonshire, Brooking, Cottee etc often seemed a soft touch.
That FA Cup quarter-final though and Ray effin' Stewart. Aside from that, I don't really mind West Ham.
It's strange the things you remember. We had taken my mother-in-law for a train trip to Blackpool that day and I didn't manage to find out the score until we got back as far as Crewe station. I was very upset. It's quite right that usually that team was a pushover and I don't think players like Bonds, Lampard senior, Martin, Stewart etc. deserved the "academy of football" sobriquet. And Blackpool wasn't much fun either.
Wasn't the game live on TV, or am I misremembering? If so, it's probably the first time I saw Villa game live on the telly. :(
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
My Dad and his brother (both Blues) and my uncle / their brother in law (Liverpool) took 14 year old me to that and we stood on the Witton in awe of the balloon display and the Villa that day. All of them gone now I'd love a repeat on Sunday for old times sake.
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Bowen would have been a great buy for us - works hard with plenty of technical ability. He'd thrive under Emery and be far more consistent than Bailey.
I presume we were in for him under Deano when Wham got him from Hull but our stock was lower then, so even with his 'aul fella being a Villa man, it probably wouldn't have been enough.
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Bowen would have been a great buy for us - works hard with plenty of technical ability. He'd thrive under Emery and be far more consistent than Bailey.
I presume we were in for him under Deano when Wham got him from Hull but our stock was lower then, so even with his 'aul fella being a Villa man, it probably wouldn't have been enough.
I doubt there's would've been any higher considering we were above them in the table in Jan 20 when he signed, it's more that we were fully constrained by FFP and needing to sign replacements for Wesley and Heaton so simply couldn't afford him in that window. If he'd waited until the summer I suspect we may have gone for him ahead of Buendia.
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
1976 I think, otherwise that's how I remember it. I'm fairly sure we played Derby away the next day, or the day after , and lost 2-0.
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
The Boxing Day game I think you mean was 1975 and it was notable for being Dennis Mortimer's debut - Ron Saunders' "Christmas Present" to the fans. The first game to be played in claret and blue by one of the Rotterdam immortals. A fantastic performance from Dennis and the Villa. WE also beat them 4-0 at home first game of the 76-77 season. Boiling hot August afternoon. All the goals in the second half from Gray (2) and Graydon (2). We were attacking the Witton End (as it was then) in the second half. Isn't it funny what you can remember from 47 years ago as if it was only yesterday and half the time I can't remember yesterday? But yes, that Boxing Day game was a brilliant day. The balloons were amazing.
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Sutton has us to win and he always gets it wrong so we’re fucked.
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Sutton is also a colossal bell end. So anything he says or that twat Savage should be dismissed immediately.
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
The Boxing Day game I think you mean was 1975 and it was notable for being Dennis Mortimer's debut - Ron Saunders' "Christmas Present" to the fans. The first game to be played in claret and blue by one of the Rotterdam immortals. A fantastic performance from Dennis and the Villa. WE also beat them 4-0 at home first game of the 76-77 season. Boiling hot August afternoon. All the goals in the second half from Gray (2) and Graydon (2). We were attacking the Witton End (as it was then) in the second half. Isn't it funny what you can remember from 47 years ago as if it was only yesterday and half the time I can't remember yesterday? But yes, that Boxing Day game was a brilliant day. The balloons were amazing.
I did think I was younger than 14 so 75 sounds about right.
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We used to funeral them at home in the 90's with regular ease.
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Yeah, and Julian Dicks' thundercunt penalties couldn't do anything about it !
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Think it will be them winners from a couple of Ward-Prowse corners.
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trouble in the Holte before the game when we played them in the 70/80’s
I presume it was because we were all wearing the same colours that it was easy for them to sneak in
Didn’t last long before they were rounded up and escorted back to the away fans ( yes that did actually happen in those days they didn’t get thrown out)
one of the worse days for trouble I ever had was against them at Upton Park in 80/81 FA cup quarter final
We lost 1-0 to a last minute penalty, which was gutting but there was violence throughout the whole game,
Absolute carnage inside and outside the ground
Oh they were the days !!
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Sutton is also a colossal bell end. So anything he says or that twat Savage should be dismissed immediately.
This.
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We will impose our idea on the game in the moment and emerge victorious.
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Bring back the baloons
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trouble in the Holte before the game when we played them in the 70/80’s
I presume it was because we were all wearing the same colours that it was easy for them to sneak in
Didn’t last long before they were rounded up and escorted back to the away fans ( yes that did actually happen in those days they didn’t get thrown out)
one of the worse days for trouble I ever had was against them at Upton Park in 80/81 FA cup quarter final
We lost 1-0 to a last minute penalty, which was gutting but there was violence throughout the whole game,
Absolute carnage inside and outside the ground
Oh they were the days !!
Dodgy penalty put away by Stewart if i remember.
I was 16 at the time and went for a piss in our end at HT only to find a guy who looked as evil as Lenny Mclain in our bogs with a sheepskin coat and WH badge on it - i koved away to see there were loads of them
Only ground / time i ever really felt worried
(And that included being battered in the Bristol City end in FA cup earlier)
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Hard to believe that stuff routinely happened back then.
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Zaniolo available for selection, though it is hard to see how he could possibly be in a frame of mind conducive to being able to play
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Any updates on Moreno? Digne's had a nice little break but he's one yellow away from a suspension.
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Moreno only a small injury so will be tested before the match and, as it’s only a Villa type injury, is expected back out on the grass in around the 2026/27 season.
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Moreno potential return 5/11 a/c to epl injury table
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trouble in the Holte before the game when we played them in the 70/80’s
I presume it was because we were all wearing the same colours that it was easy for them to sneak in
Didn’t last long before they were rounded up and escorted back to the away fans ( yes that did actually happen in those days they didn’t get thrown out)
one of the worse days for trouble I ever had was against them at Upton Park in 80/81 FA cup quarter final
We lost 1-0 to a last minute penalty, which was gutting but there was violence throughout the whole game,
Absolute carnage inside and outside the ground
Oh they were the days !!
Dodgy penalty put away by Stewart if i remember.
I was 16 at the time and went for a piss in our end at HT only to find a guy who looked as evil as Lenny Mclain in our bogs with a sheepskin coat and WH badge on it - i koved away to see there were loads of them
Only ground / time i ever really felt worried
(And that included being battered in the Bristol City end in FA cup earlier)
In fairness it wasn’t dodgy Ken McNaught thought he was playing basketball defending a last-minute corner
I managed to forgive him when we won the league
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
boxing day 1975.
I know because it was my first ever game
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Zaniolo available for selection, though it is hard to see how he could possibly be in a frame of mind conducive to being able to play
I bet he will be.
Goal and a booking I reckon.
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A bit like against Wolves, they will soak everything up and use their quick players to strike.
We need to be clever and watch Bowen on the break.
Ideally Diably, Bailey and Watkins can do the same to them and we need McGinn, Dougie and Kamara to control the tempo and our defence to be switched on.
It’s about time we beat these bastards. Recently twice in a season we should have torn them a new one but ended up with fuck all.
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Zaniolo available for selection, though it is hard to see how he could possibly be in a frame of mind conducive to being able to play
I bet he will be.
Goal and a booking I reckon.
both in the 1st half ?
asking for a friend.
UTV
The Doc
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One of the worse days for trouble I ever had was against them at Upton Park in 80/81 FA cup quarter final
We lost 1-0 to a last minute penalty, which was gutting but there was violence throughout the whole game,
Absolute carnage inside and outside the ground
Oh they were the days !!
One of my first away games with lads from school. We had 600 tickets unsold on the Friday & the club sent them back to West Ham, who promptly sold them to every nutcase in the East End. At the end of the game we were locked in the stand with the 600 & more piling in from the sides. Not an experience I want to repeat.
I might be wrong but I also think it was Brian Little's last game for us.
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Nice 3 points please.
And another 3 next Sunday.
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Zaniolo available for selection, though it is hard to see how he could possibly be in a frame of mind conducive to being able to play
I don't see why not if as he says he hasn't done anything wrong in regards to the allegations.
Players often play when they have issues outside of football and often it can be helpful to be distracted for a short period.
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Zaniolo will win the game for us with a shot so hard the keeper and the ball end up a tangled mess in the net at the back of the goal.
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
75.
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trouble in the Holte before the game when we played them in the 70/80’s
I presume it was because we were all wearing the same colours that it was easy for them to sneak in
Didn’t last long before they were rounded up and escorted back to the away fans ( yes that did actually happen in those days they didn’t get thrown out)
one of the worse days for trouble I ever had was against them at Upton Park in 80/81 FA cup quarter final
We lost 1-0 to a last minute penalty, which was gutting but there was violence throughout the whole game,
Absolute carnage inside and outside the ground
Oh they were the days !!
79/80. (Sorry about this).
Was talking to my mate about it recently and we were on about how we survived a game and atmosphere as violent as that with not a scratch but then when we got home we had more of a fight when some skinheads tried to mug us in Digbeth,
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Zaniolo will win the game for us with a shot so hard the keeper and the ball end up a tangled mess in the net at the back of the goal.
Worth a bet
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I remember the year we got relegated in 86/87, a Warren Aspinall hatrick and we ran out 4-0 winners (can’t remember who got the other goal). It was like our last stand before going down a few games later. West Ham were always good for a few results like that back then.
You can’t get away from Moyes having done a good job there, but he’s only come up against Unais Villa once and not at Villa Park. So hopefully we’ll turn a corner against this lot. Think Bailey will start this one.
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Kamara
Luiz
McGinn
Watkins
Diaby
Bailey
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I was going to do a bit of an overview of both clubs and try to make a balanced prediction based on form, styles, tactics and me putting my finger in the air, but it seems I'm no longer welcome to do so. Ostensibly because a couple of people seem intent on either taking comments made on other forums out of context or else being way over sensitive to them.
Especially given that anything I've written is nowhere near what I see on here regularly about West Ham. Such is the modern world of social media I guess, where everyone is always itching to take offence at everything and people get judged and sentenced based on an off the cuff comment that'd probably be laughed off and instantly forgotten in a pub environment.
So I'll just say good luck for the season and good luck in Europe, where I'll always want other British clubs to do well (so long as they're not Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool or Man U).
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I was going to do a bit of an overview of both clubs and try to make a balanced prediction based on form, styles, tactics and me putting my finger in the air, but it seems I'm no longer welcome to do so. Ostensibly because a couple of people seem intent on either taking comments made on other forums out of context or else being way over sensitive to them.
Especially given that anything I've written is nowhere near what I see on here regularly about West Ham. Such is the modern world of social media I guess, where everyone is always itching to take offence at everything and people get judged and sentenced based on an off the cuff comment that'd probably be laughed off and instantly forgotten in a pub environment.
So I'll just say good luck for the season and good luck in Europe, where I'll always want other British clubs to do well (so long as they're not Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool or Man U).
I personally couldn't give a shit what you say on the West Ham forum, and you've always been decent on here from what I've seen. I don't even know what you said on that forum, but you can't have it both ways.
The nasty things you've seen here about West Ham will have been written by people who haven't then gone on to the West Ham forum pretending to be reasonable.
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I was going to do a bit of an overview of both clubs and try to make a balanced prediction based on form, styles, tactics and me putting my finger in the air, but it seems I'm no longer welcome to do so. Ostensibly because a couple of people seem intent on either taking comments made on other forums out of context or else being way over sensitive to them.
Especially given that anything I've written is nowhere near what I see on here regularly about West Ham. Such is the modern world of social media I guess, where everyone is always itching to take offence at everything and people get judged and sentenced based on an off the cuff comment that'd probably be laughed off and instantly forgotten in a pub environment.
So I'll just say good luck for the season and good luck in Europe, where I'll always want other British clubs to do well (so long as they're not Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool or Man U).
Bollocks, you basically called us all deluded wankers and there was another dig at Brummies this week, you can get fucked pal, don't try and gaslight.
Paddy mate, I forgive you as a simple country boy you wouldn't understand. And it's noticable he doesn't mention on that forum he was chumming it up on here with us for years.
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I was going to do a bit of an overview of both clubs and try to make a balanced prediction based on form, styles, tactics and me putting my finger in the air, but it seems I'm no longer welcome to do so. Ostensibly because a couple of people seem intent on either taking comments made on other forums out of context or else being way over sensitive to them.
Especially given that anything I've written is nowhere near what I see on here regularly about West Ham. Such is the modern world of social media I guess, where everyone is always itching to take offence at everything and people get judged and sentenced based on an off the cuff comment that'd probably be laughed off and instantly forgotten in a pub environment.
So I'll just say good luck for the season and good luck in Europe, where I'll always want other British clubs to do well (so long as they're not Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool or Man U).
Don't make out you're the victim. You're a two-faced wanker who came on here for years being reasonable then slagged us to bits on your own site.
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It's your digs at us as fans and Brummies etc that make you two faced. No one cares if you say the team are shit, hell, i've said that plenty of times over the years. But when you come over here all nicey nice and then insult us over there don't act the victim or expect to be welcomed here with open arms.
And we may say stuff about West Ham on here, but we're not posting on a West Ham forum and acting like their mate while slagging off cockneys etc on here at the same time.
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Wow, he was nearly on a thousand posts! Shame. We've lost a Stokie, Barcode and now a WHammer over the years on here. Always thought a Toffee or two would come flocking given Villa and Everton's similarities, but they seem to whine about us more than anyone else.
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Wow, he was nearly on a thousand posts! Shame. We've lost a Stokie, Barcode and now a WHammer over the years on here. Always thought a Toffee or two would come flocking given Villa and Everton's similarities, but they seem to whine about us more than anyone else.
Why is it a shame to lose someone who clearly dislikes us?
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Don't make out you're the victim. You're a two-faced wanker who came on here for years being reasonable then slagged us to bits on your own site.
Mods please can we ban this poster for using bad language?
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Wow, he was nearly on a thousand posts! Shame. We've lost a Stokie, Barcode and now a WHammer over the years on here. Always thought a Toffee or two would come flocking given Villa and Everton's similarities, but they seem to whine about us more than anyone else.
Who cares? Fuck the duplicitous prick
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I was being a tad facetious but also a shame in that for years he came across as a decent sort before he was rumbled on his home turf.
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Is Dinas_Caerdydd now our only regular/occasional 'outsider'?
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There was a Fulham guy?
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Oh yeah, Franky. He's a good sort, in'e ?
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London Franky, summat like that?
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This one seems really big - a club that we really struggle against in recent years.
It feels like some of the sky 6 clubs have there act together a bit more, and whilst the league table looks good - bar a few performances it feels like we havent really got going. We're doing remarkably well considering the injuries we have had, and the fact the new players are adjusting, but tomorrow could be a big a result against a club with similar aims as us.
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I don't think sendo reckoned on being spotted on KUMB.
I've no ill will against the chap per se, but the two faced shithousery is not cricket in my book so, we move on.
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Davey the Sunderland fan was a decent sort. Although I think he fell in with Eastie etc before the mass biscuit exodus, so stopped posting here.
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Does TBAR still live on? Fergal, IrishVillain....not sure who else flounced off with Eastie.
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Does TBAR still live on? Fergal, IrishVillain....not sure who else flounced off with Eastie.
Just had a look, seems the last post on there was in June 2021. And that thread was the first for nearly a year.
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As an iron maiden fan West Ham mean Steve Harris and his love for football. As a villa fan I get to appreciate that my love for music can be sidelined for a spirit of fuck the kit stealers and hope you all blow bubbles in the championship you jellied eel eating ******. Up the fucking true claret and blues
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We need the three points tomorrow to keep with the top group. A win tomorrow will see us a point of Liverpool and two off Man City and Arsenal. Once again, get the midfield right and the rest takes care of itself. It will be tough, they're a decent side but no excuse for not picking up all 3 points.
Oh and I hate 4.30pm Sunday games. Much prefer the 2pm slot if we have to play on a Sunday.
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As an iron maiden fan West Ham mean Steve Harris and his love for football. As a villa fan I get to appreciate that my love for music can be sidelined for a spirit of fuck the kit stealers and hope you all blow bubbles in the championship you jellied eel eating ******. Up the fucking true claret and blues
Decent rant mate
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We need to smash the kit stealing, stadium stealing, pretend cockney, jellied eels eating twats. I hate West Ham.
3-1 to the original and real claret and blue good guys. UTV.
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Was it under O’Leary when we made Marlon Harewood look like a good striker
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Results not great for us yesterday. No slip ups today please.
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Hopefully some returnees from injury?
Think we win this one 2-0, Watkins and Digne.
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Tough game today and I think Emery will go back to a back 4 with Torres and Konsa in the centre. He only changed it at Wolves to match them up and I think we look better with a 4.
With the injuries we have what Emery is doing is unbelievable.
McGinn is so important for us in that midfield 3 which will be physical today. I’m going 2-1
with Watkins getting both but it will be a very tight game.
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I'm going for a Desmond again.
John McGinn to score in a league game: there, I've said it!
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Fortress Villa Park to stand firm - 2-0 Cash and Watkins.
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I'm going for a Desmond again.
John McGinn to score in a league game: there, I've said it!
I just hope McGinn doesn't come back with is usual International break hangover. He is critical to the way we play.
2-1
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Think we will be utterly reliant on Luiz and Kamara dominating midfield to win today. Strange attitude to have given our form at home but having to start one of Bailey or Zaniolo out of position is far from ideal. Huge test for Konsa and Torres to deal with their physicality.
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I'm going for a Desmond again.
John McGinn to score in a league game: there, I've said it!
I just hope McGinn doesn't come back with is usual International break hangover. He is critical to the way we play.
2-1
He didn't play in the friendly, did he? Hopefully he's well rested.
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Will be tricky today, but would like 3 Villa wins in the next 7 days please.
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Interesting stats on the club site, we haven't beaten West Ham since 2015, and we haven't beaten a David Moyes side since 2010.
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Interesting stats on the club site, we haven't beaten West Ham since 2015, and we haven't beaten a David Moyes side since 2010.
That's actually made me more optimistic, today's the day! 8)
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Interesting stats on the club site, we haven't beaten West Ham since 2015, and we haven't beaten a David Moyes side since 2010.
I was going to say not beating a Moyes side is astonishing and then I remembered which managers we had when we’ve played Everton, MU and WH. I suspect Deano might have turned him over though
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Interesting stats on the club site, we haven't beaten West Ham since 2015, and we haven't beaten a David Moyes side since 2010.
I was going to say not beating a Moyes side is astonishing and then I remembered which managers we had when we’ve played Everton, MU and WH. I suspect Deano might have turned him over though
He didn't though, and in one game they had ten men for ages under him.
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Need to score first or we'll struggle I think.
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Results not great for us yesterday. No slip ups today please.
Decent run of fixtures now up to the Spurs game at the end of November. Win them and it should firmly establish us at the top end of the table.
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zaniolo starts
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There was a little spell back in the mid to late 70s where we would put 3 or 4 past them without much bother. I would welcome a return to something like that.
I think we'll still win as Emery will have a cunning plan for their demise. 2-1
Boxing day 1978* there was around 51,000 at Villa Park for the Gray/Deehan show. A fabulous performance from the lads and we ran out 4-1 winners. Brilliant day.
*some stats might be wrong as I was still three sheets to the wind after Christmas day
boxing day 1975.
I know because it was my first ever game
I think it was also Dennis Mortimer's Villa debut. We'd signed him from Coventry only a couple of days earlier.