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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2023, 04:34:58 PM
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Villa Park, Thursday 5th Oct. KO 8pm.
Needs to be a win otherwise we're putting ourselves in a crap position to qualify nevermind top the group.
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I think a couple of changes for this one, max, as we need to win as PWS says. Carlos in for Konsa, Ramsey in for Zaniolo, then fuck about a bit more with subs once we're a couple of goals up.
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Think it would just be the Ramsey change for me. Hopefully Diaby and Kamara are fit.
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Any word on Diaby having an injury or not? He could probably do with a rest anyway.
If Bailey is fit I'd start him, give Ramsey a start too. Carlos could probably do with a run out too.
I've mentioned this before but Cash and Digne currently being our only options at RB and LB is a bit of a worry. Can we push Torres out to LB? Konsa to RB? (Not both at the same time)
I haven't seen Moreno in any of the training pics lately, so if he's not due back any time soon, finding a way to rotate the defense without f**king everything up is going to be important.
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Diaby was struggling after he collided with the Brighton keeper.
SJM also hurt his toe.....kicking the ball.
Dangerous things them footballs :)
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Martinez
Digne Torres Konsa Cash
Zanziolo Luiz Kamara McGinn
Diaby Watkins
Run the bench if we're winning bringing Carlos, Moreno, Ramsey, Bailey and Duran on if fit.
We can go max strength and need to make sure of the 3 points. We play Wolves next Sunday then it's an almost 2 week international break so rotation won't be as pressing.
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Diaby was struggling after he collided with the Brighton keeper.
SJM also hurt his toe.....kicking the ball.
Dangerous things them footballs :)
Harvey Barnes is out for months after hurting his toe. Serious business, toes.
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I agree with those who say start full strength, get into a decent position then make changes. I would certainly keep the same back four who are improving match by match in the league. No need to take chances.
2-0
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Zrinjski shocked AZ by coming back from 3-0 down so we have to be careful. It is actually a must win game, so Mr Emery, it requires your full attention.
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I didn't realise there was an international break again so soon. In that case I agree with starting as strong as possible, get the game killed off and then sub a few off as soon as we can.*
I'm sure Emery will have an idea of who will or won't be on international duty, and who will or won't actually play while away, so he can juggle some players accordingly.
* this was apparently the plan against Everton and look how that went, but we seem to have found our groove again so hopefully it works this time
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I want us to win against Wolves more than beating this lot.
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I want us to win against Wolves more than beating this lot.
I expect to win both.
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Both of the games we lost going in as favourites to win this season have been knockout comp games.
I hope that we have learned our lesson from 2 weeks ago that these games will not be pushovers.
Villa to win a hard fought game against a smaller team who will come to VP and raise their game
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Diaby was struggling after he collided with the Brighton keeper.
SJM also hurt his toe.....kicking the ball.
Dangerous things them footballs :)
Harvey Barnes is out for months after hurting his toe. Serious business, toes.
I dislocated mine 12 years ago and it’s never been right since the bastard thing.
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We’re finally going to click on the cup. A comfortable home win.
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I want us to win against Wolves more than beating this lot.
Me too, on the basis that I don’t have an office full of HSK Zrinjski Mostar fans ready and waiting to give me stick if we lose to them.
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Due a win.
4-0 Villa.
FTF.
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Zrinski have got 1190 tickets for the game. DE Upper by those numbers. Don’t know how many they’ve sold, so far. About 8k left in home areas.
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No idea what they're like, gone for a Villa win as VP is currently a fortress.
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Question - when the group stages are done and knockouts start, are Conference and Europa games still on the same days/times as each other?
Irish TV are showing the Brighton and Liverpool games on their proper channels, Villa relegated to their stupid "bonus" channel you only get if they're your broadband provider. Just wondering if it'll be that way for the whole competition. I only remember seeing the Conference final on TV last year.
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0-2.
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4 nil win
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6-1.....another win.
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4-0. See ya!
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Zrinkski are currently 4th in the Bosnian League having won three in a row of their last five games. One of those defeats was away at Sarajevo who are 2nd. They have 16 goals for and 9 against. Their playing style is usually to sit back and counter. A classic European away side.
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Aston Villa are currently ace. A classic FTF side.
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Aston Villa are currently ace. A classic FTF side.
I was thinking we should change the wording on the away changing rooms to 'Funeralees'
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Question - when the group stages are done and knockouts start, are Conference and Europa games still on the same days/times as each other?
Irish TV are showing the Brighton and Liverpool games on their proper channels, Villa relegated to their stupid "bonus" channel you only get if they're your broadband provider. Just wondering if it'll be that way for the whole competition. I only remember seeing the Conference final on TV last year.
They'll remain on Thursday nights. During the group stage they are showing two English teams in each of the kick off slots available and I imagine they will try and maintain that for later rounds, assuming multiple English teams progress of course.
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Better hope Brighton get knocked-out so. Advertisers must realise that there are at least 67 times more Villa fans in Ireland than B&H Albiyun.
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Think I’d rest Diaby (after his knock) and one of Luiz/Kamara. Full strength other than that.
We’ll give them a 27-0 tonking
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Better hope Brighton get knocked-out so. Advertisers must realise that there are at least 67 times more Villa fans in Ireland than B&H Albiyun.
That was my thinking too. I know there's the Ferguson factor with Brighton, but I think Villa would still trump that. And neutrals will watch anyone.
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We just can't keep playing the same X1 twice a week so we do need to make some changes. Carlos, Ramsey and probably Tielemans to be given another go. I'd like to see Zaniolo in a different role, give Diaby a break.
------------Martinez
Cash, Carlos, Torres, Digne
--------Kamara, Tielemans
McGinn--------------------Ramsey
------Zaniolo, Watkins
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We do need to rotate, we play far too many games not to.
However, I'd like us to go quite strong for this one, just so we can get some points on the board. Then maybe do the same next match and we can rotate more once the table looks a bit more reassuring.
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I guess on paper this is our easiest game in the group so in theory it's the game we should be most comfortable resting players for, but annoyingly we can't afford not to win after the Legia Warsaw game, so we have to go pretty strong. Plus they obviously beat AZ and scored four goals in one half against them, so they're clearly no idiots. I'd go;
Martinez, Cash, Dignie, Carlos, Torres, Luiz, Tielemans, McGinn, Diaby, Ramsey, Watkins
Ideally we'll be able to take off Diaby, Watkins, Luiz etc. after 60 minutes if we're a couple of goals up.
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Aston Villa are currently ace. A classic FTF side.
Exactly.
Can't see anything other than a win by a few goals with none conceded. Which sets us up nicely for the game at the weekend.
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Really Digne should sit this one out too, Neto has looked in top form for Wolves this season and likely to cause us lots of problems on Sunday down our left.
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I think we should play our strongest team and if we get to a good/comfortable position make changes. There seems little point to me of having the euphoria of the charge up the table last season, to potentially blow it after two European games. We need to win this and the European campaign going.
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Don't have to rest too many, as there's a break after the Wolves game.
Hopefully Ramsey starts, maybe even Bert.
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With Diaby and Kamara limping off I can't see either of them starting.
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With Diaby and Kamara limping off I can't see either of them starting.
Good point. Tielemans in for Kamara I guess, either Duran or Zaniolo next to Watkins?
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With Diaby and Kamara limping off I can't see either of them starting.
Good point. Tielemans in for Kamara I guess, either Duran or Zaniolo next to Watkins?
I'd like to see Zaniolo given the off-the-striker role to see what he can do when stationed further up the pitch.
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There's been a few posts saying no need to rest players cos it's still early in the season/there's an international break coming up etc.
Surely, it's the "loading" of players in a short space of time i.e every 3 or 4 days the moment, that's the issue. We've got a first choice XI that are used to that or getting there and then about 10 players on the fringes who aren't even used to one game a week. Emery has stated that the likes of Dendoncker need to keep getting minutes under their belts, so I think he'll continue to experiment on Thursday evenings between now and Christmas (ooh, err etc.). And I think that's fine as long as it's not over half the team being changed while we need to get points on the board in this group.
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Don't have to rest too many, as there's a break after the Wolves game.
Hopefully Ramsey starts, maybe even Bert.
There might be a break as such but a fair few players will be on International duty.
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We should hammer them.
If they want to. Again, depending on the agenda.
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Wolves A is the priority so -
------- Olsen --------
Cash Lenglet Torres Digne
---- Dendonker - -Tielemans
Ramsey ------------ Zaniolo
--- Duran -- Diaby -------
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The Croatian Sports Club in Mostar? That hardly seems very politic. As a regular visitor to this beautiful but very sad city in Herzegovina I hope we stuff them. Apologies for the politics but if you get the chance to go to the away leg it's well worth a trip.
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Put out a strong side please Unai.
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I might get along to this, £25 in the lower Holte and £2.80 return on the train…hmm.
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Put out a strong side please Unai.
disagree , we need to use the squad
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Don’t think Tielemans and Dendoncker would work. Don’t see any reason to rest Martinez either. So, think I’d go with
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
McGinn
Luiz
Ramsey
Zaniolo
Watkins
Diaby
Go a few goals up and then make the necessary changes.
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Put out a strong side please Unai.
disagree , we need to use the squad
Disagree. We have to win the home games in this group. First 11 please.
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Why risk sacrificing Europe to concentrate on the league ? Is it so we can maybe finish higher up in the league, which means we can qualify...for Europe.
Start with the strongest team to win the game.
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Full strength, please.
We never do any good when we bring in fringe players, because they don't seem up to it.
Unless we play Hibs again. Then we could probably play Franz Carr in goal and still win.
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If we start with a weaker team and fall behind, it's then catch-up by bringing on the better players. I think it'd be better to start with a strong eleven and try and establish a good lead, then make any changes in the second half. The last two cup games simply haven't worked.
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Would like to give minutes to players like Diego Carlos, Moreno and Ramsey. Get them some match fitness.
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You have to get game time in to the squad players or else there is no point in having a squad.
We are going to need them and expecting them to play at the appropriate level when needed without actually playing is unrealistic.
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You have to get game time in to the squad players or else there is no point in having a squad.
We are going to need them and expecting them to play at the appropriate level when needed without actually playing is unrealistic.
Absolutely. There's no point in moaning about not having a big squad or back up if we're not going to use them. They need to be ready when called upon.
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Easy win.
Let's hope a few of the 2nd string have better peformances than against Everton.
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For this game I'd like to see Watkins and Duran paired together.
Diaby went off with a knock so I wouldn't be risking him ahead of Wolves game where he'll cause damage.
Have Zaniolo floating behind in a playmaker role. Beyond that it will be very strong as there's no travelling at all for this or the game a few days later.
This is europe for me. I know of Legia and Alkmaar but genuinely have no idea about anything about the Bosnian league or if they have any reasonably known players.
Football brexit for sure but we should be comfortable winners here, 3-0.
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a strong side please and it would be just nice to get a win in this competition...Villa win 3 nil please.
UTV
The Doc
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Kamara and Diaby to be rested after their knocks, Tielemans and Ramsey in as replacements. Moreno on the left if he is fit, give Digne a night off. Carlos in at centre half, and that should still give us enough quality to win.
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Kamara and Diaby to be rested after their knocks, Tielemans and Ramsey in as replacements. Moreno on the left if he is fit, give Digne a night off. Carlos in at centre half, and that should still give us enough quality to win.
The question is whether Digne would still bloody his nose even if watching from the stands.
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I want us to start with a strong team especially as rotation or resting players hasn't worked well in recent times.
Our group could get close, although goal difference isn't the first thing that determines positions when teams are level on points:
1. Points in head-to-head matches among the tied teams;
2. Goal difference in head-to-head matches among the tied teams;
3. Goals scored in head-to-head matches among the tied teams;
4. If more than two teams are tied, and after applying all head-to-head criteria above, a subset of teams are still tied, all head-to-head criteria above are reapplied exclusively to this subset of teams;
5. Goal difference in all group matches;
6. Goals scored in all group matches;
7. Away goals scored in all group matches;
8. Wins in all group matches;
9. Away wins in all group matches;
10.Disciplinary points (direct red card = 3 points; double yellow card = 3 points; single yellow card = 1 point);
11. UEFA club coefficient.
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You have to get game time in to the squad players or else there is no point in having a squad.
We are going to need them and expecting them to play at the appropriate level when needed without actually playing is unrealistic.
Yep, think the plan at the start of the season would have been to use the squad players in these games, with the expectation that they would perform. The fact that they haven't has cost us a bit, but I think we'll still have to stick with that plan.
On the other hand, they might want to target the home games, so might go full strong.
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Emery confirmed again Saturday EPL is the priority so expect the squad to be used in full again on Thursday. He'll have one eye on the Dingles game
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You have to get game time in to the squad players or else there is no point in having a squad.
We are going to need them and expecting them to play at the appropriate level when needed without actually playing is unrealistic.
Yep, think the plan at the start of the season would have been to use the squad players in these games, with the expectation that they would perform. The fact that they haven't has cost us a bit, but I think we'll still have to stick with that plan.
On the other hand, they might want to target the home games, so might go full strong.
You just can not expect to not rotate when playing so many matches.
It's only just October, too, this is early days. It will get much more challenging than this.
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Emery confirmed again Saturday EPL is the priority so expect the squad to be used in full again on Thursday. He'll have one eye on the Dingles game
He did say after the Everton defeat Premier League and Europe were important, so maybe will rotate "less" perhaps tomorrow?
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If we cant beat these with our reserves we need better reserves. We cant expect the first team to play twice a week all season or we will pay for it later in the season. I'd rest the cherished players and give the reserves another go. We lose, we lose. Much rather beat Wolves sunday.
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Martinez
Konsa
Torres
Carlos
Moreno
Ramsey
Tielemans
McGinn
Traore
Zaniolo
Watkins
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Watkins could do with a rest,Duran up front as a starter?
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Martinez
Cash
Carlos
Pau
Digne
Kamara (Dendoncker if injured)
Tielemans
McGinn
Ramsey
Zaniolo
Watkins
Within that, I imagine Unai will have pre-planned subs (possibly half time) to manage workload so something like
Chambers for Cash
Lenglet for Pau
Duran for Watkins
Kellyman/Traore for McGinn
Konsa has played every minute so probably needs a rest. I'd also go as strong as possible first half rather than have the first team coming off the bench to do a rescue job
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I think we beat Hibs to get the guaranteed revenue of 3 homes games. But no intention of giving it 100%. The PL is clearly the only show in town as far as they are concerned. I hope I’m wrong and would be great to win the Euro Conf.
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There's only 3 things to aim for for Europa League qualification. Win this competition, win the FA Cup, or finish 5th. That's a narrow target area. I expect us to have a right good go at all 3.
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The most important thing is mentality.
Look at the world of difference between what Luiz put in v Everton and Brighton.
Against Brighton Doug was his usual top class self. Against Everton he couldn't pass water so I get the feeling UE probably gave the impression it was an expendable competition and the performance level for the first hour reflected that. Also experimenting with stuff like McGinn as inverted LB which obviously didn't work.
Warsaw away game we just underestimated playing a european game in hostile atmosphere and got done.
VP will be a different story with our record over last six months so it's up to the current fringe players to get focused and step up.
Dosen't say much for Tielemans if he's moaning about not starting games in international breaks and then can't dominate midfields against Bosnian teams so I'd expect him to get on the ball and make things happen tomorrow.
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Fully expecting Ramsey to absolutely batter this lot tomorrow
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I think the way Emery spoke after the Brighton game we can expect a changed team. I can't recall the exact words but I think he talked about treating all competitions differently or something similar?
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I think Mr. Emery has his sights set on a top 4 finish
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I think Mr. Emery has his sights set on a top 4 finish
Chances are Top 5 would do for us this season, but I personally don't see much difference between the teams vying for 4th and 5th-6th this season. There's a top 3, most likely, and the rest is fair game.
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Jacob Ramsey, Moussa Diaby and Boubacar Kamara all ruled out for tomorrow night.
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Jacob Ramsey, Moussa Diaby and Boubacar Kamara all ruled out for tomorrow night.
ahhh bollocks
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Jacob Ramsey, Moussa Diaby and Boubacar Kamara all ruled out for tomorrow night.
Diaby isn't a shock, I hope Ramsey is just precautionary and he'll be good to go at the weekend. Although given how long he's been out you'd think they'd want to give him some game time.
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If we can't get a result against this lot without those 3 we don't deserve to go any further.
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This is the Villa so not surprised at all about the injuries. As they are only “small ones”, I expect them to be back sometime around 2025
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I imagine we will have seen Donk, Tielemans, Bailey and possibly even the lesser spotted Bert anyway
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As near a full team as we can please. Learn the lesson of the last two cup games. Maybe Bailey for Diaby, and give Jj a run out.
Let’s win first and then bring 5 subs on as soon as we can
But it’s early October, not mid Feb. Fatigue shouldn’t be a thing yet.
We need to win this one.
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Id start Ollie while his confidence is high and he will want to bang in some goals then when the job is done bring him off. Hes been off for so long so play him now hes on fire . Id imagine Zaniolo and Bailey , Tielmans , Carlos , SJM would all start.
JUst choosing between Luis and Donks but give Dougie 60 mins with Watkins to get 2 or 3 up :)
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Jacob Ramsey, Moussa Diaby and Boubacar Kamara all ruled out for tomorrow night.
BBC only has Emery mention Diaby and Kamara with Bailey in training.
Aston Villa manager Unai Emery says Boubacar Kamara and Moussa Diaby will miss Thursday's Europa Conference League tie at home to Zrinjski Mostar after picking up injuries in Saturday's win over Brighton.
But Leon Bailey is back in training and should be available after recovering from a thigh strain.
As for Ramsey, the only mention is from Konsa about how good he is.
Ezri Konsa said the game will be a tough one before being asked about midfielder Jacob Ramsey: “JJ can be a top, top-class player, we can see already what he can do.
“If he remains humble, like he is, he can go right to the top.”
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I just read Jj, Diaby and Kamara are out with injury.
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Pravda has the quotes on JJ being doubtful. Felt sore after both Chlelsea and Brighton games.
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As near a full team as we can please. Learn the lesson of the last two cup games. Maybe Bailey for Diaby, and give Jj a run out.
Let’s win first and then bring 5 subs on as soon as we can
But it’s early October, not mid Feb. Fatigue shouldn’t be a thing yet.
We need to win this one.
It's not about time of season, it's "load" factor. Too many squad members aren't fully-loaded while some of the first-teamers are more spent.
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Maybe I'm having a brain fart.... but who is that behind Dougie?
(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/800x800/3c2573a0-62c9-11ee-94db-956d06128f3d.jpg)
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Omari Kellyman?
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Chrisene I think. Left back cover for tomorrow?
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Chrisene I think. Left back cover for tomorrow?
Yep, that's him. Says he played 13 times for Kilmarnock last season.
Moreno must be well and truly crocked.
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Yes Moreno is a huge worry. Chrisene looked very good when we won the Youth Cup but he's hardly been seen since.
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Yes Moreno is a huge worry. Chrisene looked very good when we won the Youth Cup but he's hardly been seen since.
We saw what happened with DeBruyne coming back from a hamstring injury only to be out again immediately, so it's probably better to be cautious with him. That is assuming he hasn't actually already injured himself again.
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I’m wondering if Moreno was rushed back a bit too soon and he’s relapsed? That said he seemed ok running up and down the pitch in the post Warsaw warm down for unused subs.
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You can hear the fans roar from my house when there's a goal at VP on a night game.
I want to hear it on a CL night.
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Emery said that with Moreno, he, ie the player, didn't feel he was ready so they decided to give it another two or three weeks.
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Maybe I'm having a brain fart.... but who is that behind Dougie?
(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/800x800/3c2573a0-62c9-11ee-94db-956d06128f3d.jpg)
Neil Taylor aged 18. He's spent the last few years in a Benjamin Button reverse-ageing experiment and now he's back at Villa where hopefully he'll be better this time round 8)
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Could be a start for Bert tomorrow?
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
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You can hear the fans roar from my house when there's a goal at VP on a night game.
I want to hear it on a CL night.
But your house is on Holte Road😂
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Tickets have sold pretty well for this.
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Yes Moreno is a huge worry. Chrisene looked very good when we won the Youth Cup but he's hardly been seen since.
Think Chrisene had an injury for most of last season.
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Yes Moreno is a huge worry. Chrisene looked very good when we won the Youth Cup but he's hardly been seen since.
Think Chrisene had an injury for most of last season.
That would explain only 13 appearances on a season long loan. Tore his medial ligament in January apparently.
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Tickets have sold pretty well for this.
Suspiciously well, considering how many thousands were left last night and even this morning. Wreaked havoc with my guess the crowd.
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Tickets have sold pretty well for this.
1466 left at present, so we've shifted c.6k since the weekend.
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Tickets have sold pretty well for this.
1466 left at present, so we've shifted c.6k since the weekend.
6-1 wins will do that
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
I don't think they do anything substantial foodwise.
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Tickets have sold pretty well for this.
1466 left at present, so we've shifted c.6k since the weekend.
6-1 wins will do that
And they only went on kind of general sale yesterday afternoon.
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Nothing changed yesterday afternoon!
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Nothing changed yesterday afternoon!
What exactly do you think is happening? The club is lying? Or a load of Bosnians have done a Hibs on it?
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What changed? The criteria now is exactly the same as it was last Thursday, anybody with any kind of record of going to a game ever could get one. I have no idea what's spurred on the overnight and early morning mad rush on tickets, but it wasn't a change of criteria.
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At least not one that's been made public. If it's one left to hearsay and rumour, that's one hell of a grapevine!
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What changed? The criteria now is exactly the same as it was last Thursday, anybody with any kind of record of going to a game ever could get one. I have no idea what's spurred on the overnight and early morning mad rush on tickets, but it wasn't a change of criteria.
I couldn't click to buy tickets before yesterday afternoon. There was no option for it on the tickets page. Yesterday afternoon a button to buy tickets appeared. You still had to have a digital media account and a fan id, which it told you how to register for if you didn't have one. I assumed that meant they were available to a wider audience than they had been, if not quite general sale .
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Should be on GS.
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Nothing changed yesterday afternoon!
What exactly do you think is happening? The club is lying? Or a load of Bosnians have done a Hibs on it?
There is definitely something weird going on, tickets taken off sale or something.
Literally about 5,000 tickets disappeared in about two hours max when I looked.
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They were having problems with the computer system yesterday.
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Nothing changed yesterday afternoon!
What exactly do you think is happening? The club is lying? Or a load of Bosnians have done a Hibs on it?
There is definitely something weird going on, tickets taken off sale or something.
Literally about 5,000 tickets disappeared in about two hours max when I looked.
I checked at about 930 and there were about 4700 left, by midday that was 1700 left. Definitely something weird going on or alternatively people have received a mail shot and thought fuck it let’s get involved.
If they’ve taken some off sale we’ll see it tmw night a bit like Saturday.
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Just checked only about 1100 left now
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So with a lot of injuries I'm going for:
Olsen
Cash
Diego
Torres
Digne
Doug
Tielemans
McGinn
Zaniolo
Bailey
Duran
Subs Emi, Konsa, Chambers, Donk, Traore, Watkins, Kellyman, no idea who else!
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Just checked only about 1100 left now
I got one about 6.00 pm tonight. Looks like a good crowd. Can't help but think if they had done £20 Full £10 concessions last week they would have sold out.
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I'm not sure £7 has made much difference and there will be a high 30,000 crowd anyway.
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Jacob Ramsey, Moussa Diaby and Boubacar Kamara all ruled out for tomorrow night.
What's up with Ramsey? Did he pick up anything in the Brighton game?
Diaby and Kamara did pick up knocks so no surprise they're not being risked, hopefully they're both o.k for Wolves.
Keep on forgetting about Traore, could see him starting tomorrow.
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Jacob Ramsey, Moussa Diaby and Boubacar Kamara all ruled out for tomorrow night.
What's up with Ramsey? Did he pick up anything in the Brighton game?
Diaby and Kamara did pick up knocks so no surprise they're not being risked, hopefully they're both o.k for Wolves.
Keep on forgetting about Traore, could see him starting tomorrow.
Reports circulating that Ramsey has foot issue again albeit a different bone….another good few weeks
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Nothing changed yesterday afternoon!
What exactly do you think is happening? The club is lying? Or a load of Bosnians have done a Hibs on it?
There is definitely something weird going on, tickets taken off sale or something.
Literally about 5,000 tickets disappeared in about two hours max when I looked.
Reports on Twitter the a few thousand been given away free to local schools
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Yes Moreno is a huge worry. Chrisene looked very good when we won the Youth Cup but he's hardly been seen since.
Think Chrisene had an injury for most of last season.
That would explain only 13 appearances on a season long loan. Tore his medial ligament in January apparently.
I hadn't seen that but it makes sense given how he played in the Walsall pre-season game where he looked miles short of the pace of the game and was scared to leave his own half.
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Nothing changed yesterday afternoon!
What exactly do you think is happening? The club is lying? Or a load of Bosnians have done a Hibs on it?
There is definitely something weird going on, tickets taken off sale or something.
Literally about 5,000 tickets disappeared in about two hours max when I looked.
Reports on Twitter the a few thousand been given away free to local schools
Good business that. Get them hooked when they're young with a free sample and by Christmas they'll be selling their own Granny for a £115 sweaty plastic bag pro shirt.
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Jacob Ramsey, Moussa Diaby and Boubacar Kamara all ruled out for tomorrow night.
What's up with Ramsey? Did he pick up anything in the Brighton game?
Diaby and Kamara did pick up knocks so no surprise they're not being risked, hopefully they're both o.k for Wolves.
Keep on forgetting about Traore, could see him starting tomorrow.
Reports circulating that Ramsey has foot issue again albeit a different bone….another good few weeks
FFS.
Despite us winning games it's a good time for an international break. Use the two weeks to get Ramsey and Moreno fully fit as you forget what a good combination they were on the left in the run in and it's not been seen once this season so hopefully it's visible from October onwards.
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Fucking hell our injury problems are ridiculous.
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
Do they like crisps and nuts?
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
Do they like crisps and nuts?
Sometimes they have had a few cheese or ham cobs on the bar on a tray , that was on Saturdays though and pre pandemic. Not been for a while and not sure if it's still the same landlords .
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
Do they like crisps and nuts?
Sometimes they have had a few cheese or ham cobs on the bar on a tray , that was on Saturdays though and pre pandemic. Not been for a while and not sure if it's still the same landlords .
Cheese or ham in a cob on its own sounds rather bland. I would suggest they combine together perhaps adding a suitable dressing. As we are once again playing host to visitors from the continent, the local establishments should be making the effort to offer a more adventuous cuisine.
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
Do they like crisps and nuts?
Sometimes they have had a few cheese or ham cobs on the bar on a tray , that was on Saturdays though and pre pandemic. Not been for a while and not sure if it's still the same landlords .
Cheese or ham in a cob on its own sounds rather bland. I would suggest they combine together perhaps adding a suitable dressing. As we are once again playing host to visitors from the continent, the local establishments should be making the effort to offer a more adventuous cuisine.
Reggae Reggae sauce?
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you haven't been the Villa Tavern . You'll be lucky to get a bit of Stork with your ham or cheese
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
Aston social club?
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A friend travelling up from Essex has asked if the Villa Tavern pub do any food as they have booked a parking place close by. I have no idea as never been there so can anyone on here help with this info?
Aston social club?
the caribbean BBQ is decent - jerk chicken is good
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508 left. 2000 is seats empty in the away end, but you'd think there'd be a decent crowd on now. Good going.
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probably be some empty rows again cos of TV LG
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Just looked for any news on Villa on BBC website but, of course, it’s all about Newcastle. Last night on TNT Sports they kept showing all the English teams that they were showing tonight and, not once did our match get a mention. Maybe it’s because they all think Olsen will start in goal so no point in mentioning us!
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They're bringing 700~.
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Would be more but for the night shift at the Yugo factory.
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Just looked for any news on Villa on BBC website but, of course, it’s all about Newcastle. Last night on TNT Sports they kept showing all the English teams that they were showing tonight and, not once did our match get a mention. Maybe it’s because they all think Olsen will start in goal so no point in mentioning us!
It is only Conference , can't expect much coverage til the QF onwards
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Just looked for any news on Villa on BBC website but, of course, it’s all about Newcastle. Last night on TNT Sports they kept showing all the English teams that they were showing tonight and, not once did our match get a mention. Maybe it’s because they all think Olsen will start in goal so no point in mentioning us!
It is only Conference , can't expect much coverage til the QF onwards
It's live on TNT2. As was the last game. And Hibernian.
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https://twitter.com/BPS_B23/status/1709908969349685562/photo/1
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https://twitter.com/BPS_B23/status/1709908969349685562/photo/1
That explains the disparity identified earlier on this thread.
If I see any kids on freebies in TV or LG, I'm calling the Children Catcher.
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Just looked for any news on Villa on BBC website but, of course, it’s all about Newcastle. Last night on TNT Sports they kept showing all the English teams that they were showing tonight and, not once did our match get a mention. Maybe it’s because they all think Olsen will start in goal so no point in mentioning us!
It is only Conference , can't expect much coverage til the QF onwards
It's live on TNT2. As was the last game. And Hibernian.
The home leg against Hibernian was only available via Villa TV for £4.99
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Just to clarify, I know the match is on but, from their lack of advertising it, I’m not sure TNT realise that we even exist. Of course Brighton, West Ham and Liverpool all kept getting mentioned!!
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Just to clarify, I know the match is on but, from their lack of advertising it, I’m not sure TNT realise that we even exist. Of course Brighton, West Ham and Liverpool all kept getting mentioned!!
in fairness, they're all in the Europa League.
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Just seen a couple of Mostar fans tearing up the Town.*
*Walking from New St towards the Mailbox.
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They have deffo given out freebies to schools as my step daughter is a teacher and she's had one , how bad is that instead of making them £20 they would rather give them away to save face 🙄🙄🙄
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I watched Celtic last night and they advertised Liverpool, Brighton and Rangers with graphics.
They also said "you can also see games involving West Ham, Aston Villa and Aberdeen with us"
It's not a big conspiracy not to advertise us, they just have a lot of games so they talk about the biggest game in each timeslot
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doubt many neutrals will tune in to watch our game
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With Ramsey, Diaby and Kamara all out and possibly Bailey not completely ready, we’re are going to have to play some of the spine of the tram again.
I wouldn’t dick around with the defence.
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Digne
Luiz
Tielemans
McGinn
Zaniolo
Watkins
Duran
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Hopefully they've had time to train.
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I'd be pleasantly surprised if he plays something like the first team. However, he won't.
Olsen
Chambers
Carlos
Lenglet
Digne (replaced by Chrisene at some point)
Dendoncker
Tielemans
Bailey (replaced by Traore at some point)
Kellyman
Zaniolo
Duran
Then we might throw Watkins, Luiz and McGinn on to salvage a point
(just lowering my expectations - I do actually want us to attack this competition)
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They have deffo given out freebies to schools as my step daughter is a teacher and she's had one , how bad is that instead of making them £20 they would rather give them away to save face 🙄🙄🙄
Free tickets for school children for a game that kicks off at 8PM on a school night. Another own goal. They may have distributed them but I doubt even if 25% of that lot would actually attend.
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We need to move the ball between the lines
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did they ever release the Everton attendance
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The Donk needs minutes in his legs to prove he's not a mistake-merchant. Have him and Tielemans played together much for Belgium?
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Hopefully they've had time to train.
Ive done that sooo many time 🫠
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I'd be pleasantly surprised if he plays something like the first team. However, he won't.
Olsen
Chambers
Carlos
Lenglet
Digne (replaced by Chrisene at some point)
Dendoncker
Tielemans
Bailey (replaced by Traore at some point)
Kellyman
Zaniolo
Duran
Then we might throw Watkins, Luiz and McGinn on to salvage a point
(just lowering my expectations - I do actually want us to attack this competition)
Squad players need minutes, however if it was this team, it would be team that stands a very good chance of losing. Having 3/4 first teamers not starting because they injured is more than enough.
Donk, Kellyman can come on if we are in a good position
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I can't wait for this. European game under the floodlights, big crowd, bring it on!
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Zrinski have got 1190 tickets for the game. DE Upper by those numbers. Don’t know how many they’ve sold, so far. About 8k left in home areas.
I’m in town for a work bash at the motorcycle museum so sadly can’t go tonight and there are loads of Zilijna fans on Hurst street. Many wearing half n half scarves. Cops told me they love English football so this is their big game in the group. Apparently 700 here and they expect no trouble
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Hurst Street? Why that's 2 minutes from Sherlock Street! They could go and meet some Noses. Oh!
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There are loads of Zilijna fans on Hurst street. Many wearing half n half scarves.
They have just become my most hated Bosnian team and made a powerful enemy.
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Hurst Street? Why that's 2 minutes from Sherlock Street! They could go and meet some Noses. Oh!
You beat me to that one!
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Wonder if they've picked up any show tunes?
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Wonder could Emery be tempted to try wing backs tonight given the lack of wide options both in midfield and attack? We seem to have 5 x CBs available.
----------------------Martinez
Cash, Chambers, Carlos, Torres, Digne
---------------Tielemans, Donk,
----------Zaniolo, Watkins, McGinn
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Saturday just gone was going to be a good marker of where we were. League is priority, chooses best 11 available, all performed well, great result.
Today, a totally different game. Probably his second best competition but without new injuries of Kamara, Diaby and Ramsey, plus perhaps another couple of league starters having legs saved, I don’t hold up much hope .
We don’t have another pacey ball carrier, and we know Dendoncker / Tielmans not up to Douggie/Bouba level so a bit limited frustratingly. Squad still not strong enough to forge ahead on many different comps.
Having said all that I would keep EMI and best back 4 together and I’d be inclined to see Saturdays team against Wolves, not the starting 11 we’re used to in Prem as well as tonight based on availability
They can’t be any mugs being 0-3 down to Az in previous game coming back to win 4-3
Anyway I was at the Rapid game 13 years ago and the cheeky gits displayed a banner about being our worst nightmare returning……it was !
Hope these newbies don’t get so cocky tonight !
(https://i.ibb.co/HBdDXKR/P8260076.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HBdDXKR)
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Zilijna fans?
They’re going to go nuts when they find out they’re 15 years late for the match.
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I’m in town for a work bash at the motorcycle museum so sadly can’t go tonight and there are loads of Zilijna fans on Hurst street. Many wearing half n half scarves. Cops told me they love English football so this is their big game in the group. Apparently 700 here and they expect no trouble
That's nice to hear! Obviously half 'n' half scarves are an abomination but perhaps a little forgivable if, as a fan of English football, you've travelled a thousand miles to the home of the founders of the first football league.
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European games, especially away games, are one of the very very few times half and half scarves are acceptable.
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Videos of them on Twitter marching through town
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European games, especially away games, are one of the very very few times half and half scarves are acceptable.
Hmmm that’s a borderline statement
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Videos of them on Twitter marching through town
https://twitter.com/AwayDays_/status/1709981672387510562
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Didn't see any Half and half scarves in that. They are off the shit-list. For now.
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Hurst Street? Why that's 2 minutes from Sherlock Street! They could go and meet some Noses. Oh!
I loved Hurst street when I was young. All the guitar shops and all the hippy stores😀 the smell of joss sticks and patchouli
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Videos of them on Twitter marching through town
https://twitter.com/AwayDays_/status/1709981672387510562
They've heard about the biggest Primark in Europe.
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Seriously, where were they all headed?