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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Risso on August 30, 2023, 09:57:42 AM
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Sunday 3 September, Anfield.
2pm.
0-2 Villa. FTSSWCDCDFCTMF!
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Isn't it a bit early for a pre-match thread?
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No. It's Wednesday, games's on Sunday. It's a biggie, the 2nd leg of a tie we're 5-0 up in, isn't.
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It’s never too early.
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Very well. It's a tricky match, but we should funeral these regardless. 3-1 Villa, Zaniolo and Watkins x2!
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Isn't it a bit early for a pre-match thread?
Hahaha!
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Unai to have sussed Bingo. 1-3. FTF.
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Isn't it a bit early for a pre-match thread?
Hahaha!
Dan Bardell says it's never too early!
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What fresh hell is this?! There's a match tomorrow FFS. This cannot stand. I want my money back. I've just put my foot through the screen of my laptop and I'll be sending the repair bill to Mr M.Rissbrandle, Rutland.
Honestly, this country.
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Isn't it a bit early for a pre-match thread?
Hahaha!
Dan Bardell says it's never too early!
Who is Dan Bardell?
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Isn't it a bit early for a pre-match thread?
Hahaha!
Dan Bardell says it's never too early!
Who is Dan Bardell?
Dave's brother. He decides when it's time to start the pre-match threads.
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Can you add 'thread' to the end of the thread title, please, Risso?
If you're going to do something, do it properly, or you KNOW what will happen.
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Unai to have sussed Bingo. 1-3. FTF.
Bingo never fails to make me laugh. Anyway, we wont lose this game.
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To be honest I'd take 0-1 if you offered it now. Or 1-2. No worries.
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2-0.
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Can you add 'thread' to the end of the thread title, please, Risso?
If you're going to do something, do it properly, or you KNOW what will happen.
Done. Honestly some rank amateurs out there.
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1-1
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1-1 and they get a late late equaliser
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Biggest test since Saudi Away. First goal will be absolutely vital.
Could be a very cagey chess like game this one
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Can you add 'thread' to the end of the thread title, please, Risso?
If you're going to do something, do it properly, or you KNOW what will happen.
Done. Honestly some rank amateurs out there.
Are you going to add the word 'thread' to every other topic, or is the fact that they are indeed threads, obvious enough?
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Klopp grinds his teeth down to stumps, has several hissy fits outside his technical area and orders the ref to play 30 mins injury time to try and help Liverpool win. Then he moans about time wasting when they fail to beat us and we spoil the party.
Enough about last season though, I think we’ll win this one.
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We’ll murder them.
27-0.
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Very different Villa team compared to when we played them in May. No Mings, Moreno, Buendia or Ramsey. Hopefully Martinez is back. No Van Dijk and possibly no Konate.
If Liverpool are winning, regular injury time. If they need a goal, play however long they need to. Klopp still moaning.
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Liverpool haven't looked great but they've managed to get results anyway. It's been great watching us bounce back from the Newcastle match but realistically this will be the first real test of the team since then.
I'd take a draw, but I do feel like we should be capable of more, and if it ends in a draw it will probably be them coming from behind and levelling in the 97th minute.
So with that logic and a dash of optimism I'm going to say we win 2-1.
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Behave yourself Legion!
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Can you add 'thread' to the end of the thread title, please, Risso?
If you're going to do something, do it properly, or you KNOW what will happen.
Done. Honestly some rank amateurs out there.
Are you going to add the word 'thread' to every other topic, or is the fact that they are indeed threads, obvious enough?
Only if I get really bored.
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This match isn't on TV? Or just not on Sky?
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This match isn't on TV? Or just not on Sky?
It's a 'moved due to Europe' game that wasn't chosen for TV
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With no VVD for them and our current form we have a great chance to win. 0-2 and Watkins will miss a sitter.
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Hmmm, Diaby, Zaniolo, Watkins, McGinn.
1-4.
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Edit, wrong thread!
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Their forwards look great, but defence, especially without Van Dyke, doesn’t.
I’d take a draw, but we are playing so well right now.
1-3 (Watkins, Diaby, Zanioloa). Boom.
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This will be difficult, and a really interesting test.
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We'll score a few.
3-1 Villa
FTF
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Can you add 'thread' to the end of the thread title, please, Risso?
If you're going to do something, do it properly, or you KNOW what will happen.
Done. Honestly some rank amateurs out there.
Are you going to add the word 'thread' to every other topic, or is the fact that they are indeed threads, obvious enough?
Agreed. Do these people write "I am typing this email on my laptop to enquire about .." and answer the phone with "Hello, Joe Bloggs speaking on the mobile phone!"
FTT
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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The first real test of our no Mings defence.
If we play a high line Salah and TAA will murder us. I suspect we'll go low block again, but Emery is anything but predictable.
I think we'll score. I fear the'll score more. 2-1
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Isn't it a bit early for a pre-match thread?
Hahaha!
Dan Bardell says it's never too early!
Who is Dan Bardell?
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Difficult test. Like last season - would take a draw.
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I can see us getting a 2-1 win.
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So Sky are showing Palace v Wolves, instead of our match, that's a bit rubbish.
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So Sky are showing Palace v Wolves, instead of our match, that's a bit rubbish.
You should be in the studio, as they’ll say that at half time and full time too.
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Win this, and we could quite easily be in the top four during the International break, which would have been unthinkable after the Newcastle game. A tough place to go, and they are definitely the favourites, but with Unai in charge, I will always believe we have a good chance of winning any game.
1-2, with a Watkins double to show Southgate why he was wrong not to call him up.
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I think we'll come unstuck on Sunday and get one of the 5 league defeats I'm allowing for, fingers crossed 33 wins should see us home.
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So Sky are showing Palace v Wolves, instead of our match, that's a bit rubbish.
Tbf it is the actual dictionary definition of a dead rubber.
VillaTV are showing it.
Hopefully not in 1975-o-vision like the Valencia game.
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So Sky are showing Palace v Wolves, instead of our match, that's a bit rubbish.
Tbf it is the actual dictionary definition of a dead rubber.
VillaTV are showing it.
Hopefully not in 1975-o-vision like the Valencia game.
Think he’s talking about Sunday Paulie.
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So Sky are showing Palace v Wolves, instead of our match, that's a bit rubbish.
Tbf it is the actual dictionary definition of a dead rubber.
VillaTV are showing it.
Hopefully not in 1975-o-vision like the Valencia game.
Think he’s talking about Sunday Paulie.
That’s a very good point.
Oops.
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It's the downside of the more-equitable TV money deal compared to other countries. The mid-tablers/bottom-feeders need to get their share of live games.
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So Sky are showing Palace v Wolves, instead of our match, that's a bit rubbish.
Tbf it is the actual dictionary definition of a dead rubber.
VillaTV are showing it.
Hopefully not in 1975-o-vision like the Valencia game.
Think he’s talking about Sunday Paulie.
That’s a very good point.
Oops.
It’s Risso’s fault for having two pre-match threads going concurrently.
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It's not my fault PW's a divvy.
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Tomorrows result: Aston Villa 0 Hibernian 6.
Every week, some pro tells us 'one game at a time'.
Glad Unai is our manager and not Risso.
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Wrong thread alert.
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What fresh hell is this?! There's a match tomorrow FFS. This cannot stand. I want my money back. I've just put my foot through the screen of my laptop and I'll be sending the repair bill to Mr M.Rissbrandle, Rutland.
Honestly, this country.
Extremely appalling and rather brisk step, leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. I have heard that the malefactor is not from our part of the County.
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So Sky are showing Palace v Wolves, instead of our match, that's a bit rubbish.
Tbf it is the actual dictionary definition of a dead rubber.
VillaTV are showing it.
Hopefully not in 1975-o-vision like the Valencia game.
It will be in their high def 360p.
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I'd take the draw, I reckon they'll nick it with some shocking late ref decisions.
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1-1
They’ll get a late equaliser.
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Not being funny but I have look out for the league cup draw tonight, follow the Hibs game tomorrow, barring a disaster look out for the european group draw on friday morning. In addition the transfer window will be slamming shut soon. This is before I have to try and keep on top of news regarding any notable deaths that may have to be commented on, and also seeing if there are any surprising birthdays coming up of celebrities I thought were already dead.
Wedged in between this never ending list I have to try and eat, sleep, and keep myself in a reasonably presentable state hygiene wise.
It really is much too early to start worrying about that bunch of scallywags.
I'll settle for a 5-1 or a 7-2 victory.
UTV.
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Villa TV sounds more trouble than it’s worth so, no £5 from me.
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Played very well going forward against Burnley but looked at times defensively fragile. Burnley had chances that Liverpool would have taken.
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Has there been any update on Martinez? I expect to see Olsen against Hibs but hoping normal service is resumed for this one.
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Has there been any update on Martinez? I expect to see Olsen against Hibs but hoping normal service is resumed for this one.
That's my concern too. With Emi there we will be solid, confident and commanding. With Olsen, not so much.
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Rumours I heard were that Emi had a calf issue and wasn't risked on Sunday with the Liverpool game in mind. Hope he will be back.
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1-1
They’ll get a late equaliser.
Joe Newell to score and SHA start selling CD of the goal in their shop?
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1-1
They’ll get a late equaliser.
Joe Newell to score and SHA start selling CD of the goal in their shop?
Possibly, if he gets his move to Liverpool.
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Rumours I heard were that Emi had a calf issue and wasn't risked on Sunday with the Liverpool game in mind. Hope he will be back.
Yeah, we know it's his calf, he didn't train at all after the Hibs game, and I haven't seen him in any of the training pics the club has put up so far this week. If he's on the bench tonight I'll assume he's good to go on Sunday.
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I don't think Emery will put Emi on the bench even if he's 100% right. No point really, pack the bench with kids and give them a run out.
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I don't think Emery will put Emi on the bench even if he's 100% right. No point really, pack the bench with kids and give them a run out.
Well chances are we're not changing keepers during the game unless there's an injury to Olsen, in which case I'd rather have Emi come on. But I don't think he'd be on the bench if he wasn't at least able to play if needed.
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I'm getting the feeling Olsen will be in goal again.
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I don't think Emery will put Emi on the bench even if he's 100% right. No point really, pack the bench with kids and give them a run out.
See, this is why we don't have 2 match threads at once because I doubt you're suggesting Olsen in goal and kids on the bench to face Liverpool.
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I don't think Emery will put Emi on the bench even if he's 100% right. No point really, pack the bench with kids and give them a run out.
See, this is why we don't have 2 match threads at once because I doubt you're suggesting Olsen in goal and kids on the bench to face Liverpool.
That's maybe my fault. I was wondering if Emi would be back for Liverpool, and assumed if he shows up on the bench tonight that will mean he's fit.
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I don't think Emery will put Emi on the bench even if he's 100% right. No point really, pack the bench with kids and give them a run out.
See, this is why we don't have 2 match threads at once because I doubt you're suggesting Olsen in goal and kids on the bench to face Liverpool.
No, I was responding to the point immediately above mine which was talking about having Martinez on the bench tonight and then being good for Liverpool.
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I don't think Emery will put Emi on the bench even if he's 100% right. No point really, pack the bench with kids and give them a run out.
See, this is why we don't have 2 match threads at once because I doubt you're suggesting Olsen in goal and kids on the bench to face Liverpool.
No, I was responding to the point immediately above mine which was talking about having Martinez on the bench tonight and then being good for Liverpool.
I get that but the whole sequence of posts felt tlike it was in the wrong place, I quoted you as the end of the conversation rather than picking you out.
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1-2.
Diaby, McGinn. Martinez to save 105th minute penalty.
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1-1
They’ll get a late equaliser.
Joe Newell to score and SHA start selling CD of the goal in their shop?
Possibly, if he gets his move to Liverpool.
Oh fuck! You see this is what happens when we have two pre match threads running. We need a site rule to ban that😳
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We’re Aston Villa so can cope with up to 3 threads at any one time!!!
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They will struggle without Zaha. Shit, I'm even further ahead, sorry.
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Worried about Emi’s calf.
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Worried about Emi’s calf.
Can't he just have a dog or a cat like most people?
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Saved Olsen!
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Saved Olsen!
I sincerely hope Olsen is playing at Anfield this weekend
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Dazed and confused. ;-)
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Saved Olsen!
I sincerely hope Olsen is playing at Anfield this weekend
I'd prefer Martinez but there you go.
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We've scored 15 goals in our last four games.
People can say what they want about the opposition but it's Premier League and a European competition so I don't really care.
We're the form side in the country right now.
3-1 Villa on Sunday mark my words.
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Feels like a big test this one. After it going wrong at Newcastle, this is a chance to make a statement.
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Feels like a big test this one. After it going wrong at Newcastle, this is a chance to make a statement.
Yeah, not to be disrespectful to the teams we've played since but it has all felt a bit like a preseason run of games. This is the first real test since opening weekend.
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Expect a dodgy ref and the usual shit up there,
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If Olsen is in goal, this will be a very early opportunity for us to pick over the wisdom or otherwise of not getting in a new back up keeper over the summer. But at least with him in goal it should mean we won't have to suffer Liverpool scoring a winning goal in the thirteenth minute of added time.
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Hopefully we get a draw but Liverpool at their place is going to be tough
2-1 to them (105th minute penalty for them to win)
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Can't see past them to be fair. Anfield unbeaten for good while, homer ref no doubt and to be fair their attacking players are a bloody handful
4.2
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Funny reading on RAWK, they think the officials screw them over :D
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Funny reading on RAWK, they think the officials screw them over :D
Well bearing in mind all things being equal they should have been down to 9 men last week, not sure they have much to complain about.
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Putting the Newcastle aberration to one side, this is the first benchmark fixture this season to see where we are. I believe we are more than capable of getting a win up there. There are a couple of flies in the ointment though, the clear and obvious bias from the officials and the possible presence of Olsen in goal. Given one, or even both of those will have an influence I shall be cautious in my prediction.
1-1
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Need to give a good account of ourselves after the Newcastle result, or we'll be accused of being flat track bullies.
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Always a tough game but happy that Van Dijk is suspended as defence is Liverpools weak point, with Bailey getting 90 minutes last night I wouldn't be surprised to see Zaniola start.
1-1
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Problem is, I'm excited for this game now. Which is a sure-fire sign that we are utterly, utterly doomed.
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Always a tough game but happy that Van Dijk is suspended as defence is Liverpools weak point, with Bailey getting 90 minutes last night I wouldn't be surprised to see Zaniola start.
1-1
I wouldn't be surprised if we lined up closer to how we did at Burnley.
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Putting the Newcastle aberration to one side, this is the first benchmark fixture this season to see where we are. I believe we are more than capable of getting a win up there. There are a couple of flies in the ointment though, the clear and obvious bias from the officials and the possible presence of Olsen in goal. Given one, or even both of those will have an influence I shall be cautious in my prediction.
1-1
Agreed, this is the proper test. Can't help feeling Everton and Burnley are two very weak PL teams currently, granted you can only beat what's in front of you and we did that comfortably. Thought Liverpool were impressive with 10 men at Newcastle, sure they rode their luck at times but their new midfielder Szoboszlai looks an excellent addition in midfield, technically good and very athletic. Nunez will surely start too after his goals. I'm not sure VVD is all that much of a loss these days, though he may well be if Joe Gomes plays as Watkins always does well against him. TAA is still as rubbish as ever defensively.
Interesting team selection, Emery made a big mistake with front 3 at Newcastle so expect it will be Diaby and Watkins. Same team as v Burnley I suspect and similar tactics. Just with McGinn tucking in on left, TAA could cause us huge problems. Likely to be a big test for Digne too. Torres worries me, got caught horribly for the Burnley goal and flat footed twice in Burnley and Everton games but wasn't punished. Liverpool's forwards are a different class so he will need to up his game. Badly need Martinez back.
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Funny reading on RAWK, they think the officials screw them over :D
Every club is the same. The issue is what benchmark fans are coming from. If you're Liverpool or ManU, then you start from a position where you get most decisions at home at least. If then you don't get everything you want, you will feel hard done by. The wankers.
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Liverpool i fear will expose the high line with their pace . 3-1 loss
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I think we are becoming a very good side, but I do think recently we've shown the odd defensive lapse, which we have got away with (since Newcastle, obvs), and I am concerned Liverpool will take any such chances.
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I think we are becoming a very good side, but I do think recently we've shown the odd defensive lapse, which we have got away with (since Newcastle, obvs), and I am concerned Liverpool will take any such chances.
I'm interested to see how Torres does in this one. He's a great passer of the ball, but the one time he came under a bit of defensive pressure against Burnley he looked decidedly iffy.
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Hearing the breaking news that Liverpool have rejected a £150m bid for Salah from the Saudis, hopefully he will now decide to go on strike!
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Would the Saudi team have to have had some kind of encouragement from Salah himself to be bidding like that to the club?
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Saved Olsen!
I sincerely hope Olsen is playing at Anfield this weekend
I'd prefer Martinez but there you go.
Fucking hell. Here I was trying to be a smart arse and even fucked that up. What a ‘mare I’ve had of late.
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Would the Saudi team have to have had some kind of encouragement from Salah himself to be bidding like that to the club?
You'd have to think so, and there window doesn't close tonight so this one could rumble on for a while yet, and may be rather disruptive.
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Fucking hell. Here I was trying to be a smart arse and even fucked that up. What a ‘mare I’ve had of late.
We still love you and won't judge!
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Fucking hell. Here I was trying to be a smart arse and even fucked that up. What a ‘mare I’ve had of late.
We still love you and won't judge!
🥹
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I think we are becoming a very good side, but I do think recently we've shown the odd defensive lapse, which we have got away with (since Newcastle, obvs), and I am concerned Liverpool will take any such chances.
I think the Newcastle game was a bit of a fluke. The Mings injury seemed to knock the collective stuffing out of the team. McGinn was subbed after 60 mins or so.
I thought we would lose in May but we dominated them the first half. Let us travel in hope ....
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I feel so sorry for Liverpool having that potential disruption right before a game. No wait, it's karma for the Dougie bollocks you knobbers.
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Would the Saudi team have to have had some kind of encouragement from Salah himself to be bidding like that to the club?
My guess is that is all being set up for next Summer, by which time Salah will only have one year left on his contract and will be a year older. There's no way, and Salah would know this, that Liverpool would countenance selling him on a day that would make it impossible for them to get in a big replacement.
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Paul Merson has just said the Saudis will most likely return with a further bid upwards of £200m which Liverpool will find hard to turn down. Hopefully this happens before Sunday!
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He best not play, can't be in the best frame of mind...
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This Salah business is as likely to backfire on us as it is to mess them up. He'll probably come out all guns blazing on Sunday to prove to the fans he loves them.
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Paul Merson has just said the Saudis will most likely return with a further bid upwards of £200m which Liverpool will find hard to turn down. Hopefully this happens before Sunday!
If Paul Merson's past predictions are anything to go by, that means the Saudis will ban Salah from the country and invoice Liverpool for £50m for their trouble.
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Martinez trained today. Hopefully OK for Sunday, Emery says.
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All the media talk is about the Salah bid...excellent (in a Mr Burns voice) as i fancy us to take the game to these fuckers.
Let Watkins run their shite defence ragged for 70 mins then bring on Duran to kick the balls out of them.
I fancy 1-2 Watkins / Diaby - their goal at the death but too little too late
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We’ll murder them.
27-0.
Can the mods introduce mandatory drug tests for posters on here.
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We’ll murder them.
27-0.
Can the mods introduce mandatory drug tests for posters on here.
Where do you think I get my drugs?
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We’ll murder them.
27-0.
Can the mods introduce mandatory drug tests for posters on here.
Where do you think I get my drugs?
So for years Mr W has been using this site as a front for other business ventures.
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We’ll murder them.
27-0.
Can the mods introduce mandatory drug tests for posters on here.
Where do you think I get my drugs?
So for years Mr W has been using this site as a front for other business ventures.
I’m no snitch.
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Paul Merson has just said the Saudis will most likely return with a further bid upwards of £200m which Liverpool will find hard to turn down. Hopefully this happens before Sunday!
If Paul Merson's past predictions are anything to go by, that means the Saudis will ban Salah from the country and invoice Liverpool for £50m for their trouble.
"I ain't bein' funny or smart Jeff, but..."
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Fucking hell. Here I was trying to be a smart arse and even fucked that up. What a ‘mare I’ve had of late.
We still love you and won't judge!
And in fairness you won 50 grand by correctly predicting we would draw Everton at home in the Milk Cup.
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Fucking hell. Here I was trying to be a smart arse and even fucked that up. What a ‘mare I’ve had of late.
We still love you and won't judge!
And in fairness you won 50 grand by correctly predicting we would draw Everton at home in the Milk Cup.
Even that was from copying my prediction in the thread, so I'll be expecting a large cheque from Canada.
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Just can't see this one being a draw, think it will either be the "expected" easy home win or a 'statement' 3-1 win for us.
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Fucking hell. Here I was trying to be a smart arse and even fucked that up. What a ‘mare I’ve had of late.
We still love you and won't judge!
And in fairness you won 50 grand by correctly predicting we would draw Everton at home in the Milk Cup.
Even that was from copying my prediction in the thread, so I'll be expecting a large cheque from Canada.
It will be a cut of $50,000. Not £. And given our tax rates, expect a cheque of around £4.25. You’re welcome.
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Even that was from copying my prediction in the thread, so I'll be expecting a large cheque from Canada.
It will be a cut of $50,000. Not £. And given our tax rates, expect a cheque of around £4.25. You’re welcome.
Having worked offshore with a lot of Canadians, that sounds about right given their tax and exchange rates. :)
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I think we may just pull their pants down and reveal Bingo has a teeny weeny willy.
They’re a good side, we’re a very good side.
Liverpool 1 Aston Villa 2.
Dougie with a late winner from outside the box.
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Even that was from copying my prediction in the thread, so I'll be expecting a large cheque from Canada.
It will be a cut of $50,000. Not £. And given our tax rates, expect a cheque of around £4.25. You’re welcome.
Having worked offshore with a lot of Canadians, that sounds about right given their tax and exchange rates. :)
Yep we’re all fucking skint and more so when we travel abroad. When I come over next year and hopefully get a game, I’ll be begging for pints. That or I’ll need to remortgage my house.
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I think we may just pull their pants down and reveal Bingo has a teeny weeny willy.
"SIZE OF A MOUSE"
(One for Banana Splits aficionados)
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A statement win by us. 3-1
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A statement win by us. 3-1
Yes 8)
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Martinez trained today. Hopefully OK for Sunday, Emery says.
Be a bonus for us, he’ll have one eye on turning out for Argentina as well, presumably they have games?
In an ideal world it would have been good to have a crap team this weekend, stick with Olsen and him not get called up so he would have had 4 weeks to fully get over it.
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There’s every chance we’ll lose, Liverpool away is a very tough game. But it’s bloody brilliant having a manager who you just know will have a tactical plan and can compete with anyone.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
Couldn't agree more.
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A streaky 2-1 to us. An even game, so not entirely undeserved, but enough to send Klopp into a full tooth-chomping meltdown.
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There’s every chance we’ll lose, Liverpool away is a very tough game. But it’s bloody brilliant having a manager who you just know will have a tactical plan and can compete with anyone.
Exactly this. I think we are capable of giving pretty much anyone an almighty bloody nose. However they are a very very good team and it's at Anfield where they historically get assistance from officials when they need it most. My biggest fear fear is defensively were not quite there yet. The Newcastle game showed that. I'm not even going to predict a result but I can't wait to see what happens.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
Couldn't agree more.
The problem for me is that I don't think our defence can cope with their forward line either.
Its going to need a Tactical genius to unpick Liverpool as their right hand side is an attacking strength and also a defensive weakness.
Luckily for us we have a Tactical Genius.
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There’s every chance we’ll lose, Liverpool away is a very tough game. But it’s bloody brilliant having a manager who you just know will have a tactical plan and can compete with anyone.
Exactly this.
Agree, there is a bit of pre Newcastle exuberance creeping in and that did not end well.
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Is Macallister out for them as well? He got sent off in their second game.
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There’s every chance we’ll lose, Liverpool away is a very tough game. But it’s bloody brilliant having a manager who you just know will have a tactical plan and can compete with anyone.
Exactly this.
Agree, there is a bit of pre Newcastle exuberance creeping in and that did not end well.
You got in before I finished my edit lol (my breakfast turned up) But yeah what PW said is bang on the money for me.
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Is Macallister out for them as well? He got sent off in their second game.
Think that red card was rescinded, so he can play.
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On RAWK there's a general football and sports section with a thread for each team and sports.topic. We're about 200 topics back on page 5 just above the threads on Crawley Town and Watford. Let's hope they're taking a bit more notice of us come tomorrow evening.
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Referee is Simon Hooper, back in charge of a PL game for the first time since not giving that penalty in the Man Utd/Wolves game.
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Referee is Simon Hooper, back in charge of a PL game for the first time since not giving that penalty in the Man Utd/Wolves game.
Of course it is
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Referee is Simon Hooper, back in charge of a PL game for the first time since not giving that penalty in the Man Utd/Wolves game.
Of course it is
another Fkin useless twat.
Expect nothing from him.
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'The Mighty Reds YNWA' 1 AVFC 3
diaby 14
Luis 23
Diaz 48
watkins 77
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Looking at that Spurs result this game feels a bit more important now. I know everyone expects them to revert to type eventually but I'd still rather keep the teams around us within touching distance, points wise.
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Looking at that Spurs result this game feels a bit more important now. I know everyone expects them to revert to type eventually but I'd still rather keep the teams around us within touching distance, points wise.
They've Arsenal and Liverpool at home in Sept. We'll have a better idea of where they're at after those.
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Looking at that Spurs result this game feels a bit more important now. I know everyone expects them to revert to type eventually but I'd still rather keep the teams around us within touching distance, points wise.
They've Arsenal and Liverpool at home in Sept. We'll have a better idea of where they're at after those.
Yep, we've also got double the amount of games as them to think about most weeks for a while, so 6 points from these next 2 would be ideal. Them losing to Arsenal and Liverpool would be most welcome too, of course.
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If we get anything from this game it’ll be a good result.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
Couldn't agree more.
The problem for me is that I don't think our defence can cope with their forward line either.
Its going to need a Tactical genius to unpick Liverpool as their right hand side is an attacking strength and also a defensive weakness.
Luckily for us we have a Tactical Genius.
We'll miss Mings in this.
Last season at Anfield was imo his best ever game for us, colossus that day and ultimately amongst all the talking Salah will still be playing for them and Nunez finally showed some finishing so with Jota and Diaz also in the mix that's a very tough forward line to handle.
We'll get chances at the other end though. Feels a 2-2.
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Looking at that Spurs result this game feels a bit more important now. I know everyone expects them to revert to type eventually but I'd still rather keep the teams around us within touching distance, points wise.
4 points is no issue. They must've been about 10 points clear of us last season when UE took over and still were comfortably clear of us in February.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
Couldn't agree more.
I severely doubt it. If we win there it’ll be a cracking result, we’re not going to walk over them. They’ve got a lot of very good players and they’re playing at home.
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Looking at that Spurs result this game feels a bit more important now. I know everyone expects them to revert to type eventually but I'd still rather keep the teams around us within touching distance, points wise.
4 points is no issue. They must've been about 10 points clear of us last season when UE took over and still were comfortably clear of us in February.
Fair. I'm just thinking with us having to balance European games with the league, and them just having the league to focus on, I wouldn't want too big a gap opening up. Of course its very early days yet, but still, I think 3 points tomorrow would be huge for us. Although I would settle for 4 from the 2 games before the break.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
Couldn't agree more.
I severely doubt it. If we win there it’ll be a cracking result, we’re not going to walk over them. They’ve got a lot of very good players and they’re playing at home.
3-1 imo. We'll win convincingly.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
Couldn't agree more.
I severely doubt it. If we win there it’ll be a cracking result, we’re not going to walk over them. They’ve got a lot of very good players and they’re playing at home.
3-1 imo. We'll win convincingly.
I hope you’re right, and definitely possible. Out of interest what did you predict the result of the Newcastle game to be? We’re much better prepared, and game ready now, but Liverpool away remains one of the toughest games to play.
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A streaky 2-1 to us. An even game, so not entirely undeserved, but enough to send Klopp into a full tooth-chomping meltdown.
I think 5-1 to Vila, but hey.
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Before the season I said to a few mates that I'd be happy with 7 points from the first 4 and would've been over the moon with anything more so a draw tomorrow would be a good result and a win would be fantastic. We shouldn't forget that we've had 3 away games in the first 4 and 2 of them against teams from the top 5 last season. That's a tough start to the season and with 2 extra european games in the mix I think we've had as very decent start to the year.
I've gone for a draw in the vote but I hope we can really test them because I think they look pretty weak defensively and we should be looking at scoring a couple at least.
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I think we'll hammer these their midfield and defence won't be good enough to deal with us.
Couldn't agree more.
I severely doubt it. If we win there it’ll be a cracking result, we’re not going to walk over them. They’ve got a lot of very good players and they’re playing at home.
3-1 imo. We'll win convincingly.
I hope you’re right, and definitely possible. Out of interest what did you predict the result of the Newcastle game to be? We’re much better prepared, and game ready now, but Liverpool away remains one of the toughest games to play.
Had us to win by a couple of goals 😢
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I'll probably change my mind before kick off but at the moment I can see us smashing them early doors, silencing Anfield, and being 3-0 up before they score 1, batter us relentlessly and get another late on, and then it's anyone's guess if they get the equaliser or not.
If it ends in a draw I think I'd rather it be us that come from behind to nick a late equaliser. So depressing when we've got a lead for most of the game and only get a point in the end.
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I'll probably change my mind before kick off but at the moment I can see us smashing them early doors, silencing Anfield, and being 3-0 up before they score 1, batter us relentlessly and get another late on, and then it's anyone's guess if they get the equaliser or not.
If it ends in a draw I think I'd rather it be us that come from behind to nick a late equaliser. So depressing when we've got a lead for most of the game and only get a point in the end.
There's been at least two times we have been disgustingly close to beating them under Klopp. Play the team and not the name and we walk all over them imo I truly do believe this.
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They've lost once in the last 43 at Anfield, and that was that game against Leeds.
This is as tough as they get and a point would be a good result.
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Writing in from Dalkey in Ireland having spoken to a couple of “local” Scouse fans who are scared of Diaby. I trust their fear comes to fruition. Good luck lads. UTV.
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3-3, goals all over the shop.
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I'd love it , love it if we went there and won.
So let's do it COYVB's
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Obviously they will get an injury time equaliser/winner though a dodgy decision after Salah runs through and falls over in the box.
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Not an easy match, and given the Newcastle result I am wary of this one. A point would be a good result, but would be delighted with a win.
Main thing is that we finish the game looking like we can compete with the teams in the title mix. I think we will, and we win 2-1
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it won't be 0-0, that's all.
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Ive gone for 3-1 earlier in the thread, but am really wary of their forward players. Salah, Nunez, Diaz, Jota is probably as good as it gets and is Gapko also fit now?
Also our newish looking defence is still bedding in.
Saying that, I really think their defence can be got at and we have the players to do it. If Dougie, McGinn and Kamara dominate the middle, I still think we can do this.
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What I like about this manager of ours is not knowing for certain what formation or team he'll put out. Will he leave it unchanged from last week? Will he put Bailey back in or does he have something else up his sleeve? It's quite refreshing really. Anyway, I reckon he'll either keep the same side as last week or throw either Zaniolo or Tielemans in.
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Obviously they will get an injury time equaliser/winner though a dodgy decision after Salah runs through and falls over in the box.
Something along these lines.
Would love a Zaniolo winner in front of the Kop
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Would love a win today for the 3 pts obviously but also to see klopp's face. Its priceless when they lose
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I'd be shocked if Tielemans starts, he looked off the pace in the week. I reckon we'll see Zaniolo from the bench again
I can't call this one, without Mings I'm still very unsure about our defence especially against pace.
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The problem is with the corrupt clowns that are now officiating we can have no confidence in the concept of the best team wins.
I think we have the ability to go up there and win but we don’t have PGMOL though and they will decide the outcome.
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I think we will go with same team as against Burnley with Cash at right midfield / winger. Can go both ways, they are at home and favourites for a reason me thinks. What a game though, will be intense to watch for sure.
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I think we will go with same team as against Burnley with Cash at right midfield / winger. Can go both ways, they are at home and favourites for a reason me thinks. What a game though, will be intense to watch for sure.
I hope not - I want Martinez in nets
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Hopefully this is the game where we make a statement that we're a top team. A bit like I'd hoped we would before the Newcastle game. I fear the pace of their attack will be too good for us. And in the case it's not they'll get the help they need.
Keep the sound turned off before kickoff.
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Pace and quality of their attack is obviously the big challenge. The defence will have to get the line spot on and the midfield are going to have to be everywhere.
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Completely irrelevant to whether we win or not but will we be in the all white away kit again, or blue and white?
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Worry about their pace up front exposing our high line.
Obviously hope Martinez is back.
But if they're playing Joe Gomez, they must be terrified of our attack.
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McGinn to harass & wind-up Trent-Alexander. Diaby to exploit the space where Trent-Alexander should be.
We need to be ruthless. Hopefully Salah will be sulking & deliberately misses their 98th min penalty.
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I'm not worried about our high line. Emery's not daft, we'll play only as high as our personnel and tactics allow. Which will still be very high, I've no doubt. And I expect redeployment of our fabled Back Six, looking forward to seeing how we do that without Ramsey. We've got goals from all over the pitch, their heads are going to be spinning they'll be that bewildered.
3-0 us. Diaby, Watkins, Zaniolo. With a trio of assists from our defenders. And leaving visions of our midfielders' faces haunting Liverpudlian nightmares for a month. UTMV!!
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Keep the sound turned off before kickoff.
I always do.
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7-2 Win.
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I’m going for a point which I’d be happy with, if we managed a win it would be a massive statement
Unless Olsen is in nets, then we have zero chance of getting anything at all
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Unless Olsen is in nets, then we have zero chance of getting anything at all
With respect that's load of bollocks.
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I'm not worried about our high line. Emery's not daft, we'll play only as high as our personnel and tactics allow. Which will still be very high, I've no doubt. And I expect redeployment of our fabled Back Six, looking forward to seeing how we do that without Ramsey. We've got goals from all over the pitch, their heads are going to be spinning they'll be that bewildered.
3-0 us. Diaby, Watkins, Zaniolo. With a trio of assists from our defenders. And leaving visions of our midfielders' faces haunting Liverpudlian nightmares for a month. UTMV!!
We might do it with Mcginn in the Ramsey role and Cash in the Mcginn role.
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Salah had one of his best games of the season last year against us so I hope we contain him, especially with threats from the inform Diaz along with Jota and Nunez. That’s a night fine attacking force.
It could be a high scoring game as we also pose a massive threat going forwards. Without Mings I’m not sure how solid we are, it’s hard to judge from the last few games.
I must admit, I’m not feeling massively confident about this one.
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Unless Olsen is in nets, then we have zero chance of getting anything at all
With respect that's load of bollocks.
I dont care what you think
It’s my opinion, we’ve got no chance with him in goal, no chance
I’ll eat the humble pie if I’m wrong, but I’m not you are
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We could just as easily lose with Martinez in goal.
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We could just as easily lose with Martinez in goal.
Yes, but that’s not what I’m saying
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I don't think Olsen is as bad as some on here do, but I don't think it's that outlandish to say our chances of winning drop significantly with him in goal against a side like Liverpool.
I mentioned it before though, if it's a case that he has to play in a match like this it would be better decided early in the week to allow a game plan that factors him in, and gives the rest of the team the most time to prepare for it. I'd assume someone as meticulous as Emery would prepare this way, and I'd feel more confident going into this game in that situation than if it was a case that Martinez was injured in the warmup or woke up on match day with a dicky tummy.
Which is all to say, if Olsen is playing I hope it was decided at the start of the week and we planned accordingly.
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If we can get 7 (seven) it probably wont matter who is in goal.
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Currently sipping my morning coffee @ Disney World, Florida and seeing quite a few red shirts scattered around.
Make them regret it - Fuck the fuckers today boys! UTV 💪🏼
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We could just as easily lose with Martinez in goal.
Yes but we are more likely to not lose with him.
That’s world class keepers for you.
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Which is all to say, if Olsen is playing I hope it was decided at the start of the week and we planned accordingly.
The plan will be to hope for the best. The man is an absolute clownshoes.
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Martinez is playing, panic over.
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Watch Martinez have a stinker now 😩
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Unless Olsen is in nets, then we have zero chance of getting anything at all
With respect that's load of bollocks.
I dont care what you think
It’s my opinion, we’ve got no chance with him in goal, no chance
I’ll eat the humble pie if I’m wrong, but I’m not you are
:) ;D
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2-1 defeat. Dodgy ref/VAR hands them victory.