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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Hookeysmith on April 28, 2023, 02:53:17 PM
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Is it just me that thinks it could be over for him?
He comes out to warm up 10 - 15 minutes after the rest of the players, comes out with only a few mins of half time remaining to warm up with the others, hardly warms up down the touchline in game and has not looked like getting a single minutes game play.
I wonder if the injury was a lot worse than first thought?
I would of thought he would of got 10 mins against Geordies and a couple of mins here and there - maybe the form of Konsa and Mings is just too good at present i dont know
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I wonder if the injury was a lot worse than first thought?
Then surely he wouldn't be in the matchday squad if his injury was stopping him from (potentially) playing?
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I'm only asking on the basis of what i see
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Is it just me that thinks it could be over for him?
He comes out to warm up 10 - 15 minutes after the rest of the players, comes out with only a few mins of half time remaining to warm up with the others, hardly warms up down the touchline in game and has not looked like getting a single minutes game play.
I wonder if the injury was a lot worse than first thought?
I would of thought he would of got 10 mins against Geordies and a couple of mins here and there - maybe the form of Konsa and Mings is just too good at present i dont know
There's no question, the form of Mings and Konsa has been exceptional, clean sheets galore. Don't break it up if you don't need to, and as centre backs they don't need to cover as much ground as most other positions. Let Carlos build up his strength and fitness and use him only when needed.
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I wonder if the injury was a lot worse than first thought?
Then surely he wouldn't be in the matchday squad if his injury was stopping him from (potentially) playing?
Indeed, Emery wouldn't put him there for the sake of it, he's happy to leave spaces empty or stick the likes of Raikhy or Travis Perkins* there.
* I know.
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He really didn't stand out before his injury, maybe Emery doesn't rate him.
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He really didn't stand out before his injury, maybe Emery doesn't rate him.
Isn't the most likely explanation just that his possible space in the side is currently taken by the two most in-form centre backs in the league?
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It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to break up a well-functioning defensive unit with 5 games of the season left & a very real chance at Europa League football.
Could see him being more involved if we've lots of European games to deal with next season.
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Still think Konsa is a weak link. Gets caught in possession too much for my liking. Dwells on the ball too much. He’s improved, as have all the team, but Carlos is definitely a class above him.
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7 clean sheets in 10 games. Nothing to see here.
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Newcastle at home in the closing minutes is the only game where he could've realistically come on with the game won comfortably.
All the other matches have been in the balance late on. You don't start messing around with your centre halves in that scenario for no good reason.
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Harsh to say he didn’t look up to much, he only played twice in a new league with Gerrard as manager.
I agree with everyone else that Mings and Konsa have been more than good enough to keep their places from what they’ve done in the last 10 games, and to be honest if they keep it up I don’t think we should change it. There hasn’t been much point changing anything there.
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Still think Konsa is a weak link. Gets caught in possession too much for my liking. Dwells on the ball too much. He’s improved, as have all the team, but Carlos is definitely a class above him.
I think Mings carried Konsa for a lot of the season but I was really impressed with Konsa against Fulham. Best I've seen him play in a good while. I do think it's a bit odd that Carlos hasn't seen a single minute of action under Emery..there were some very comfortable wins in that time that he could have got a run.
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He really didn't stand out before his injury, maybe Emery doesn't rate him.
Isn't the most likely explanation just that his possible space in the side is currently taken by the two most in-form centre backs in the league?
I think this is the most likely explanation, personally. Although other players like Watkins and Ramsey have looked tired at times in the last couple of games Mings and Konsa have continued to play well.
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I'm sure he'll get an opportunity in pre season to impress and be assessed.
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Worth remembering that he was half of the best defence across Europe last season and Sevilla have been fighting relegation after losing some of their players.
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Would Emery know anything about him or come up against him from his time with other clubs in Europe
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Would Emery know anything about him or come up against him from his time with other clubs in Europe
Well yes, they were both in spain last year and for clubs that will have seen each other and direct competition.
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Would Emery know anything about him or come up against him from his time with other clubs in Europe
Well yes, they were both in spain last year and for clubs that will have seen each other and direct competition.
So would assume with Emery’s attention to detail on the opposition, he probably knows already what he is capable of
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He really didn't stand out before his injury, maybe Emery doesn't rate him.
Isn't the most likely explanation just that his possible space in the side is currently taken by the two most in-form centre backs in the league?
Absolutely right Dave, he’s had no chance since getting himself fit. Konsa has turned his season around brilliantly and both our centre backs have become unstoppable since the Arsenal game.
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I do agree with the consensus about no need to change a winning defence but Hookey is right to at least have an eye on this. Carlos will want to be playing regular football by the autumn, with all that rust it might be that he has to drop down a level from top-half PL to get it. I don't think we'd come near to re-couping his transfer fee or wages. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go back to Spain on a season-loan. Especially if the much-linked Pau Torres is the one Emery wants, relegating Konsa to back-up.
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Probably jumping the gun a bit. He’s had a really severe injury, it’s probably best to leave him to bed in if we can.
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Why would he make any changes to a defence currently playing to superhuman levels?
We almost never concede.
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Probably jumping the gun a bit. He’s had a really severe injury, it’s probably best to leave him to bed in if we can.
you need to test his fitness levels though, lock his garden gate and ask him to try and climb over it,we will soon see
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He'll have a full pre-season to get rid of any rustiness. His injury wasn't on the level of Wesley's.
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I'm sure he'll get an opportunity in pre season to impress and be assessed.
If we make Europe we are going to need him and probably another CB
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You need two top class players in each position so I can't see UE offloading Diego Carlos at all. He's a highly rated defender.
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Why would he make any changes to a defence currently playing to superhuman levels?
We almost never concede.
Even the distribution is looking good. It's the only area I think Carlos could improve us but right now I'd prefer he has time to be 110% match fit. He'll get minutes between now and the end of the season.
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The point was about him not fully warming up before games. He comes out considerably later than all the other players so I made an assumption that they are not fully loading him still
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He really didn't stand out before his injury, maybe Emery doesn't rate him.
He played what two matches? Bournemouth was a shocker from everyone and that line up looks incredible now (Mings, Buendia and Watkins all started on the bench) and Everton I think he did o.k against poor team.
I think we're just easing him back in. Perhaps if we were still 11th he'd be getting minutes but to me it's a case of not disrupting solid defensive unit especially as european finish could come down to GD.
We'll see Carlos starting plenty in pre season.
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He really didn't stand out before his injury, maybe Emery doesn't rate him.
He played what two matches? Bournemouth was a shocker from everyone and that line up looks incredible now (Mings, Buendia and Watkins all started on the bench)
And Luiz, who struggled to get in for the next few games as well I think?
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The point was about him not fully warming up before games. He comes out considerably later than all the other players so I made an assumption that they are not fully loading him still
Paul Mcgrath (God) never came out to warm up he had a special warm up behind closed doors , Maybe Carlos has a special way warming up before the game behind closed doors, If Emery had a problem with Carlos he wouldn't be on the bench in the first place same his fitness, He get his chance don't worry.
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I’m pretty sure if anyone knows the qualities of Diego Carlos it would someone like Emery who would have competed against him. Diego Carlos at Sevilla was outstanding. He’s played two games for us. He’s a quality player we will see more of next season. There is no controversy here. We have one of the meanest defences and stable CB partnerships in the league over the past 3 months. A player coming back of a significant injury doesn’t need to be rushed back.
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Anyone notice his embrace with Lopetegui (his Sevilla manager)? Clearly a lot of emotion involved in finally being able to play some minutes again.