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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: MplsVilla on January 19, 2023, 12:48:22 PM

Title: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: MplsVilla on January 19, 2023, 12:48:22 PM
Surprised we are behind Leeds and Everton, but heading in the right direction. Would expect us to crack the Top 20 for the 2022/23 season. The gap between the top and the lower levels is scary.

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/sports-business-group/articles/deloitte-football-money-league.html

The story is also on the BBC website
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 19, 2023, 12:53:48 PM
We'd be top 20 if we could sort out the half time refreshments.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: rob_bridge on January 19, 2023, 12:54:48 PM
We'd be top 20 if we could sort out the half time refreshments.

Top 15
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: London Villan on January 19, 2023, 12:57:22 PM
Everton i can understand, but Leeds?
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 19, 2023, 12:58:48 PM
Everton i can understand, but Leeds?

Away ticket sales.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: London Villan on January 19, 2023, 01:03:00 PM
It's odd... We have been in the PL longer than them, have higher attendances, higher transfer revenue... weird.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on January 19, 2023, 01:24:09 PM
Everton i can understand, but Leeds?

Is it to do with the 49ers link? (Just a thought).
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 19, 2023, 01:30:49 PM
It's odd... We have been in the PL longer than them, have higher attendances, higher transfer revenue... weird.
Possibly bigger debts, and much higher wage liabilities?
Even the Deloittes (i think) spokesman on Radio 5 this morning suggested that valuing football clubs was very much an art, and very subjective.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: pablo_picasso on January 19, 2023, 01:51:36 PM
It's odd... We have been in the PL longer than them, have higher attendances, higher transfer revenue... weird.
Possibly bigger debts, and much higher wage liabilities?
Even the Deloittes (i think) spokesman on Radio 5 this morning suggested that valuing football clubs was very much an art, and very subjective.
We don't have any debts. And no interest payments. We have £500m in the club accounts. There is no way we are worth less that Leeds Utd... They are simply wrong...
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 19, 2023, 02:02:59 PM
I thought it was based on income, not including transfers. So basically TV money, match day income, commercial income.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: MplsVilla on January 19, 2023, 03:28:43 PM
I only read the report briefly, but it looks like it's based on revenue, so debts, interest payments, cash, etc. have no impact on where a club is ranked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 19, 2023, 03:56:19 PM
It's odd... We have been in the PL longer than them, have higher attendances, higher transfer revenue... weird.

Empty seats at home to Wolves, innit?
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 19, 2023, 03:59:09 PM
I don’t need a Deloitte report to tell me our owners are minted and they have supported our club from the moment they arrived. That’s all that matters.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 19, 2023, 04:01:39 PM
It's odd... We have been in the PL longer than them, have higher attendances, higher transfer revenue... weird.

Empty seats at home to Wolves, innit?

Flinstone was right after all
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: Chris Harte on January 19, 2023, 04:06:26 PM
The report indicates we were only £1.4m behind 20th-placed Newcastle. Given they have a 50k-seater stadium I hope we do a better job of generating income from the extra seats when we expand VP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: Smithy on January 19, 2023, 04:10:37 PM
Everton i can understand, but Leeds?

It's based on revenue, so I'm guessing it includes them getting over £100m for Philips and Raphinha in the last year?
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 19, 2023, 04:12:34 PM
Everton i can understand, but Leeds?

It's based on revenue, so I'm guessing it includes them getting over £100m for Philips and Raphinha in the last year?

It doesn't include transfers
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: Smithy on January 19, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
Everton i can understand, but Leeds?

It's based on revenue, so I'm guessing it includes them getting over £100m for Philips and Raphinha in the last year?

It doesn't include transfers

Blimey, then how the hell are we only £12m ahead of BRIGHTON??
Title: Re: Aston Villa - #21 Deloitte Football Global Money League
Post by: lwa03tjw on January 19, 2023, 04:32:28 PM
It does seem a bit odd - but my best guess is that €212m figure is actually for the 2020/21 season - as the club hasn't actually published its 2021/22 accounts yet. Revenue for 2020/21 was around £184m, which is (roughly) €212m.

Point being, it's probably not a fair comparison & we'll more than likely be in the top 20 next time.
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